It seems its former name, Fort Benning, isn’t the only thing Georgia’s current Fort Moore has lost. The Army has also had 31 SIG M17s go missing and they have no idea how or by whom. But the Department of the Army Criminal Investigation Division (DACID) is on the case and offering up to $5,000 for information leading to the recovery of the guns or leading to the arrests of the person or persons responsible for the theft.
What’s worse, is it sounds like they don’t know exactly when they went missing. On a flyer distributed by DACID seeking information, it says only that they were taken somewhere between March and May 2024. That’s a pretty big window. In some Democrat-controlled states where reporting laws require lost or stolen guns to be reported within 24-48 hours of the discovery the firearm is missing, such a wide window of “not” reporting it could result in a verbal or legal beatdown by Big Brother.
Here’s what the flyer says:
The Department of the Army Criminal Investigation Division (DACID) is offering a reward of up to $5,000 for credible information leading to the recovery of the 31 missing M17 Pistols or for information leading to the arrest of the person(s) responsible for the theft. The pistols were reported missing from the Cresenez Consolidated Equipment Pool located on Fort Moore, GA 31905, between March and May 2024.
On May 16th, 2024, the Southern Field Office received notification that 31 M17 Pistols were reported missing from the Cresenez Consolidated Equipment Pool, located on Fort Moore, GA 31905. The pistols are believed to have gone missing between the months of March and May 2024. DACID is actively seeking any information relevant to the theft of these M17 pistols.
Any person having credible information regarding this incident should contact the Army CID Souther Field Office at (706) 577-4074 or the Army CID website at https://www.cid.army.mil/Submit-a-Tip.
Thirty-one missing handguns are a lot of guns that could wreak a lot of havoc in the wrong hands, and $5,000 doesn’t sound much reward for firearms that have an approximate MSRP of $650 (31 would total $20,150) and probably carry a higher street value on the black market.
Military.com had this to say about the case:
The M17 is a 9 mm Sig Sauer pistol with a 17-round magazine capacity. The handgun was adopted by the Defense Department in 2017 to eventually replace the M9 Beretta pistol.
The civilian version of the M17, the P320-M17, retails for around $650.
According to the Army’s regulation governing the physical security of weapons, they must be accounted for by serial number each month, except for those that are “boxed and banded,” meaning they are sealed in a container for longer periods. Weapons sent to other locations for repairs or transfer also must be accounted for.
In 2021, an investigation by The Associated Press found that at least 1,900 military firearms were lost or stolen during the 2010s, and some were later used in violent crimes within the U.S.
If you come across a great buy on a brand-new military-issue M17, might want to check the source of the purchase and clue the boys in over at DACID just to be safe. Reward or no reward, you don’t want to get caught up in that mess.
That is going to be a hell of a base lockdown if they still bother with pointless collective punishment.
Nah, because there isn’t a Fort Banning.
The obvious solution to this problem is more civilian gun control. Ban any hand gun that holds a magazine clipazine thingy.
Willing to bet the cause is a clerical error. Someone might try to slip out a weapon. To attempt the theft of this amount, not impossible but unlikely.
Guessing these are in a shipping container or box with the wrong label. No one is looking in the box because it is labeled “End Items -Assorted – M123”.
If this was one weapon assigned to a unit, they would be performing the “Hands-Across-America” formation and locking down post.
Sid, when I was in the army a friend stole an entire case of Claymore mines with detonators. He got scared and turned them in before it was too late, but he could have just as easily kept them. Another friend’s uncle brought home an M-14. It’s not hard to steal from an organization as large as the U.S. military.
Got a whole lot harder to do since Vietnam with computerized inventory tracking and more than a few procedures developed from decades of people doing it……..but yeah still happens quite a bit and you wouldn’t believe the cost of some things you can fit in an ammo can.
To make my point clearer, this is a weapons depot. It is not a unit. In units, they are required to count weapons frequently and have them in ordered racks. During issue and turn-ins, weapon for weapon is tracked. That is why most of us near-panic when “A” weapon is misplaced. Every senior NCO scrambles every soldier to look and then we line up across training areas.
At a depot, they are handling shipments of bulk weapons. Often, these are not in racks. The weapons are boxed, crated, whatever.
Again, I am willing to bet that when these are found it will be in a box. SFC Smith placed them on a shelf while he was moving some work benches.
You are correct:
“Investigators were notified May 16 that the pistols had been reported missing from the Crescenz Consolidated Equipment Pool on the base, and the firearms are believed to have gone missing sometime between March and May, according to an Army CID reward flyer posted on Reddit.”
http://www.military.com/daily-news/2024/05/30/army-offers-5000-reward-after-31-pistols-go-missing-fort-moore-equipment-pool.html
My guess is Pvt Snuffy needed to reach an object on a high shelf. When “they” went to get a ladder a newly minted 2nd louie snapped “Don’t waste time! Use that box as a step”. Snuffy complied but left the box on the floor with the label facing away. The box of guns is probably still on the floor.
Back at my old job I shipped a box of material to a client that I needed when I flew in later that week. I asked the receptionist if they had the box. The answer was an adamant – no – we did not receivable any box or any material from you. I scratched my head and then I noticed she was using my box of material as a footrest. Yikes – I guess mistakes happen.
Golly no one got “punished” for leaving $870000000 of gats, copters,ammo,etc in Afghanistan. And humans. Hey where’d you get that Sig?!?🙄
It’s all part of the plan so they have to replace it. We arm the world’s extremists because $$$.
Hopefully, the thieves will drop them, the guns will go off, and the thieves will need to seek medical attention.
Maybe it’s just a cop trying to replace his departments Sigs with ones that won’t go off in the holster…
The whole “theft” thing is just the cover story.
Slow Joe probably sent them to his cartel buddies in Mexico, who will smuggle them back into the U.S. to be used against American citizens.
It will always be Fort Benning to me. 🇺🇸💪
Yep, me, too. Boy oh boy, do I remember Harmony Church.
Harmony Church. Never knew it would become a good memory of my time in the Army. E 10-2. I kinda miss the abuse now.
Me, too. And count me among the Harmony Church brethren. March-May 1969. Trainee cadre, got an E-2 outa basic. I can still hear the strident voice of my drill sergeant, SFC Harold Osborne.
“On a flyer distributed by DACID seeking information, it says only that they were taken somewhere between March and May 2024. That’s a pretty big window. In some Democrat-controlled states where reporting laws require lost or stolen guns to be reported within 24-48 hours of the discovery the firearm is missing, such a wide window of “not” reporting it could result in a verbal or legal beatdown by Big Brother.”
A seemingly inaccurate statement from the author of the article. No one said they discovered it was missing during that period, only that the loss occurred during that period. Another example, this time from a source that is supposed to be level-headed and fact-based, of a snarky comment for its own sake.
The same base “Misplaced” 5800lbs of c4 in the early 90s that has never been accounted for. The Army also lost an M1 Abrams somewhere in Texas or Louisiana and have never been able to explain how, why, when, or even have a single clue where it went. They don’t even know where it was supposed to be when it was misplaced. They did a world wide count of every Abrams on the planet and couldn’t find it.
That takes real talent. Catch-22 anyone?
Coincidentally, M & M Enterprises is offering a special deal on armor this week…
And everybody has a share!
If they retail for $650 the gov’t most likely paid double or triple that price since it would be a gov’t contract and spec price.
The govt paid?
If government could tax the air I’d die.
They will turn up in Allanta, Birmingham, Philly and Chicago in short order.
In the new woke army the pistols now identify as canteen covers and are thr stars at the show at the army LGBTQLMNOP canteen drag queen story hour show.
It could be much worse. They could be missing 31 m240B machine guns or 31 FGM-148 Javelin missiles.
Them missiles could really put a hola in something I betcha.
Schute a hola in the Eyatolla! Remember those targits they were sellin?
Some assholes in VA stole night vision goggles and sold them, then the men in Afghanistan did not have enough to go around.
Should have hung them.
Not to mention the several pentagon audits gone all wonky-doo. Whats a few hunderd million of taxpayer $$. Plenty more where that came from!
BidenPox is highly contagious and incurable.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/high-ranking-retired-admiral-charged-in-bribery-scheme-involving-defense-contractor/ar-BB1nxIJQ?ocid=BingNewsSerp
I know it’s a little late, but a few billion in weapons and equipment were left behind in Afghanistan to aide and comfort our enemies.
We have a rough idea where the weapons are.
I know who is the perp. it’s Joe Biden.
Is there a reward?
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