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Maybe time really is a flat circle, because here we are again. Another broken kid — who had raised red flags and alarmed everyone around him — got his hands on a gun and opened fire in his school, killing and wounding people that his sad, damaged psyche had concluded had somehow wronged him.

As if on cue, all of the same familiar faces took the opportunity to blame gun rights supporters — including, of course the NRA — and claim that the Oxford High School shooting is the latest evidence that America needs more gun control laws to stop horrors such as these from happening.

It’s obvious, right? All we need are more laws passed by more courageous legislators to keep the Adam Lanzas, Nikolas Cruzes and Ethan Crumbleys of the world from doing the terrible things that they do. Then we can all sleep soundly.

That is, of course, a lie.

It’s a lie because everything those three shooters and the other deranged psychopaths before them did was already in direct contravention of dozens of laws that have been on the books for decades. As he’s the most recent, let’s count some of the laws that young Master Crumbley totally disregarded when he opened fire.

Ethan Crumbley
Ethan Crumbley (courtesy Oakland County Sheriff’s Office)

Assuming he didn’t have permission to take it that day, Crumbley stole his father’s newly-purchased gun. The 15-year-old then took it to school, breaking Michigan’s illegal possession and concealed carry laws. As soon as he got to Oxford High School, he then broke the federal Gun-Free School Zones law.

Crumbley has since been charged with a couple of dozen counts of other crimes including four counts of murder, assault with intent to commit murder, possession of a firearm in the commission of a felony, and terrorism.

So if those of us on the side of gun rights roll our eyes at the avalanche of all-too-predictable calls for MORE GUN CONTROL after a school shooting such as this, it’s because not only have we heard it all before, but because all of the laws ostensibly needed to “prevent” these things from happening are already on the books. And they have been for years.

Literally none of the additional laws that the usual suspects call for after a shooting like the one in Michigan would have done anything to prevent it. Not universal background checks, not banning “ghost guns,” not “red flag” laws, or regulating pistol braces our of existence.

Somehow, though, all of the myriad laws that are already in place don’t seem to stop murderous, determined little bastards from doing what their unhinged minds tell them they’re justified in doing. There’s literally no reason to expect passing more laws would do anything to stop another Ethan Crumbley in the future.

And the fact that there are already dozens of laws in place that prohibit what happened in Michigan never seems to matter much to those who dance in the victims’ blood and use these high profile shootings to further their anti-gun rights agendas.

 

 

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    • Again they run to Gun Control because they know far too many “common sense” Gun Owners are going to attempt to defend their 2A Right with “reasoning” while their sugar and spice and everything nice Gun Control skates by without a scratch. How’s such “reasoning” working for you? Gun Control zealots have become quite comfortable setting the pace for far too many Gun Owners to follow like hungry puppy dogs.

      It is past time to take the Second Amendment out from under the microscope and put Gun Control under the microscope each and every time Gun Control zealots use a tragedy to play their Gun Control Card.

      The fact is History Confirms Gun Control in any shape, matter or form is Rooted in Racism and Genocide. Gun Control walks hand in hand with slave shacks, nooses, burning crosses, concentration camps, gas chambers, swastikas and other such insanity. If you want to “reason” with such filth then expect the worse because the real rot inherent with Gun Control always comes sooner or later. The so called “debate” to preserve The Second Amendment must boil down to the following brand of reasoning…

      1) The Second Amendment is one thing.

      2) The criminal misuse of firearms, bricks, bats, knives, vehicles, etc. is another thing.

      3) History Confirms Gun Control in any shape, matter or form is a racist and nazi based Thing.

      • boolshevik. boolshevik thing. 100 million dead and counting. nothing holds a candle to what the boolsheviks accomplished.

        • Progressive. Progressive thing. In America, gun control is a “progressive” thing because that’s our dominant strain of totalitarian.

          Everywhere it takes hold, gun control is a totalitarian control thing, and your own ostensibly benevolent totalitarian ideology is no exception. The reason we all have guns is so that we can kill the tyrants whenever they rear their ugly heads. Again…no exceptions.

    • by all accounts though this is a pretty bizarre family…the exception to the rule…story has it they bought the gun (a pistol) for the kid as a X-mas present…a weird choice for an obviously troubled youth..then gave him legal advice before going on the lam…of course we have yet to hear their side of things…should be an interesting tale….

    • Just remove all the guns and be done with it. All of man’s evils will disappear and we’ll live in love and compassion, right? Worked great for London in the U.K. With guns gone, there were no changes in behavior toward knives, which didn’t prompt TPTB to prohibit them as well while the knife assaults and murders rose. And thank God there weren’t any increases in attacks with hammers and battery acid.

      Sure glad that never happened. London has been a model for metros everywhere. Because those nasty guns, amirite?

      • In Singapore it’s nearly impossible to own a firearm. It’s also nearly impossible to commit an unpunished crime. You only rape once in Singapore. Sell drugs once. They achieve this by quick trial and execution. The government is know to trample rights at whim, but you are unlikely to be a victim of street crime.
        In my opinion, why not start with severe and quick suppression of crime before going after firearms rights. Evidence shows drug trade is a huge motivator for street crime. Street drugs are a huge cause of fetal injury leading to lack of impulse control. Imagine if the people put an end to street drugs?

  3. What we really need is enforcement of the laws already on the books. We need to update our mental hygiene laws to be able to commit dangerous people. We need to have people using their heads and reporting people who exhibit behavior which is dangerous to the people.

    • So snitch lines and diluting due process is the answer? I agree with enforcing laws, but that takes money and effort. Clamoring for more gun control costs virtually nothing AND, to the non 2A public, makes it look like the powers that be are “doing something.”

      • Rad Man”Snitch lines, really? Give it a rest. If you know that someone is mentally unbalanced and is in possession of a firearm threatening to use it that is NOT “snitching”. It’s common sense. Where did I say that there should be more gun controls? I can remember when if a person wa a danger to himself or others, you contacted the police who brought the person to a doctor and that person was committed to a mental ward for up to a ten day hold to evaluate the subject.
        Effort? No, COMMON SENSE enforcement of existing laws.

        • yep..he said that…along with “You guys are afraid of the NRA”….the “Stein” almost wet her pants….

        • Miner49er Yawn! Seems you took that statement out of context. Trump was referring to Red Flag laws. NOT banning guns as you imply. Nice try, yet again. You have just used that age old anti-gun radical tactic. A lie!

    • ” What we really need is enforcement of the laws already on the books ”

      Careful how you paint with such a broad brush. Most of the laws already on the books are either very onerous or totally useless. Before we enforce what’s on the books, we need to take a close look at what’s there and do some serious housecleaning.

      • UpinArms, Most of the laws that are on the books are not a problem really. The real problem is a LACK OF ENFORCEMENT.

        • ” Most of the laws that are on the books are not a problem really ”

          I’d be willing to bet that for every law you can name that is “not a problem” I can give you at least five that are. Take a close look at most of the gun laws that are out there and I’m confident that most of us — at least the ones that take ‘shall not be infringed’ seriously — would be very happy that these laws are not being enforced.

        • Up In Arm, you are on. Give it your best shot. I take “shall not be infringed” very seriously. But there I also have common sense.

    • this bunch sounds very much like the poster child of the left…aiding and abetting them in their push to punish you for not securing your guns….but that may not apply here…

      • frank speak, Not at all. the Left wants to emasculate law enforcement. I am proposing that we enforce the laws already on the book, putting the perpetrators in jail rather than turning them lose on the population as the Left seems to want to do.
        As to securing a firearm in the home when not in use (i.e.: not in a holster on your person) is common sense. But as I have said on numerous occasions, “YOU CAN’T LEGISLATE COMMON SENSE.”

    • Especially as hours before the boy and his parents were at the school for a special meeting about his behaviour. There would have been many red flags before such a meeting was arranged.

      Another case of a problem child that should have had an earlier intervention.

    • more like the lose of a perfectly good gun.. the child is a waste.. hang him high..he did the crime! take it all out on him now!.. leave my rights alone!

      • Are you willfully lying your @&& off, or are you just stupid???? But, embrace the healing power of “and”.

        It IS the shooter’s fault. Sorry, champ, but a 15 year old kid that does not understand that it is wrong to kill people you are mad at has problems deeper than gun laws can fix. But, thanks for playing.

  5. So, tell me, exactly what law would prevent anyone from committing a crime? And, specifically, what law would have prevented this kid from taking his father’s gun and shooting his schoolmates? Far as I know, it is already illegal to commit murder. It is already illegal to shoot at people, outside of self defense. It is already illegal for a minor to be in possession of a handgun. It is already illegal for anyone not in law enforcement to bring a firearm onto school property, or carry into a school building. So, what new law would have stopped this?

    • OldManimal! You just hit on an amazing one-strike power knock-out on all future illegal unconstitutional deprivation of our rights rights with new gun laws.

      Don’t argue so specifically against new gun laws or harp on the fact that the ones we have never worked on or don’t get properly enforced. They all know that. They just ignore it for the excuse that we simple need more and they keep getting away with that bullshit excuse.

      Instead, we get a movement going with oour Reps to require a mandate, prerequisite preliminary hearing, or straight up ‘law’ with the introduction of any new ‘act’ to Congress or State legislation to show and prove exactly how any new gun law will stop or prevent any crime with or without a firearm, outside of the ones we already have to incarcerate anyone who simply is too insane or so extremely violent and criminally focused and eliminate the danger completely. And we already have these laws but they’re not utilized properly because, as we also all know by now because they no longer try to hide it under the specious notion of Public Safety or extreme crime prevention like they used to do before they managed to take control of the government. They openly admit that the agenda now is to DISARM the fucking populate–NOT really to protect the citizens–so that they can destroy privacy and enslave the general masses. So it’s time shake up the shit in the shoes of the Leftist Communists.

      I mean, you need studies and results and verifications to sell a new drug, or food, or public transportation. And you are going to try to arbitrarily, capriciously, and whimsically make another LAW every time there’s another crime with a weapon to deprive an American Citizen of their rights to privacy or self-defense with firearms Without a similar ‘qualification’ to justify such a mandate? What is wrong with THAT anti-Libertarian Un-American Scam on We The People?

      If They can’t verify the efficacy of any new law or restrictions. Then cannot Waste Our Taxdollars and Time, or They are Fucking FIRED next time at the ballot box! That’s stealing under criminal Fraud statutes. Something that really should be applied to ALL laws, when you think about it.

      Thanks, Olmanimal. That’s why people should listen to ‘old’ thinkers. They’ve put in the long time life experience and mental research to have good objective reasonable problem-solving perspectives.

    • His father should have locked the firearm up with his other firearms. Allowing a 16yo to gain possession is on him. The “child” should have known better, but the parent knows their child and must do what they can to keep him/her from doing wrong.

      If the laws on the books were obeyed, this would not have happened. No amount of new laws will change this

    • “And, specifically, what law would have prevented this kid from taking his father’s gun and shooting his schoolmates?“

      May be a safe storage law with meaningful penalties that holds the negligent criminally and financially liable for the damages their negligence causes?

      • And when something terrible happens anyway, what new law will you propose to prevent that? And then the next one? And the next one?

  6. Any calls for common-sense gun control after these tragedies are a facade. The past six years of politics pulled the mask off the American progressive movement and how entrenched its true motives are in the overall conversation.

    These people already stop at nothing to see teachers, professors, CEO’s etc fired and socially ostracized for daring to hold a political viewpoint one step to the right of wholesale marxism. What makes you think they wouldn’t outright deny gun ownership to anyone for the same reason if they truly had their way?

  7. If it bleeds it leads.
    The talking heads come out again and again in the circle jerk of hysteria.
    Yet they won’t ever say that the individual broke half a dozen or a dozen laws already in existence. Nope just one more law. That will do the trick!
    Arming teachers to protect their students never crossed their minds. Because we can’t have that!!!

  8. The useless virtue signalers are half right. We are failing our children. In order to solve a problem, you have to first identify it. Intelligent people understand that the gun isn’t the problem. If it was the problem, then how have other children not gone on killing sprees when they had access to guns? We’ve now ruled out guns. What does that leave? These people are focusing their attention in the wrong direction. They have their reasons.

  10. The really ugly situation in this case is “safe storage” laws. Michigan (like many states) has “safe storage” laws which make parents legally and civilly culpable if they fail to secure their firearms and their children go on to use those firearms to harm someone.

    Of course state governments justify those laws for the very reason which just occurred in Oxford Township–junior grabbed his parent’s handgun and went on a killing spree.

    Needless to say, it is a noble cause to reduce the probability of children bringing firearms to school to attack their classmates and school staff. And parents would obviously reduce the probability of their children bringing parents’ firearms to school if parents kept their firearms locked away from their children.

    Now here is the problem: locking firearms away from children also means that children cannot access those firearms for self-defense when they are home alone. How do we reduce the probability of children bringing firearms to school while also ensuring that children (who are responsible/old enough) can deploy firearms for self-defense at home?

      • Well, in this case, it seems that something was awry since the school district called in the spree-killer’s parents the morning of the spree-killer’s attack for some sort of behavioral trouble. That might have been a clue that junior was unstable and that mom and dad may need to lock-up their firearms.

        Having said that, junior may have employed alternate techniques to murder his classmates even if his parents had locked-up all of their firearms. And the really horrific aspect of that: those alternate techniques could have easily produced more casualties than using a firearm.

        • “called in the spree-killer’s parents the morning of the spree-killer’s attack for some sort of behavioral trouble. That might have been a clue that junior was unstable”

          yeah, it always looks that way after the fact. “there were signs!” but actually large schools have literally dozens of such conferences each month, and almost never does anything come of it.

        • rant7,

          I am not suggesting that the school should have done anything more. I am suggesting that the spree-killer’s parents should have done more (e.g. lock up the firearms) depending on the behavioral problems which lead to the conference at school.

        • We would need to know what the specific “behavioral problems” were. I doubt we ever will. Confession time. I’ve had to go to the principle’s office on my own before. I also had a meeting there with my mom. On another occasion, I had to go have a meeting with some regional school administrator that wasn’t even at my school. I doubt any of them were worried that I might go kill someone. When I was even younger, I just had to sit against the wall for getting into a couple of scraps on the playground. They didn’t even call the parents. Of course, this was all pre-Columbine. With all of the attention that school shootings get, there should be studies on the perps, with teacher/staff and parent education on what to look for. We know the solution isn’t complaining about the NRA. That’s laughable.

      • Dude,

        The only other strategy that I could think of was for parents to keep handguns locked away from their children and only keep long guns available for self-defense at home when the children are at home alone.

        With that approach, children still have an effective firearm available for self-defense. At the same time, there are no handguns readily available which children could easily conceal in their school backpack and take to school.

        Of course a child could still try to take a long gun to school. That gets a bit more difficult/risky, though, because a child cannot conceal it in a backpack–anyone and everyone would see that child carrying a rifle or shotgun up to and into the school and be able act appropriately.

  13. Its a problem of moral bankruptcy and sickness.

    Nowadays, thanks to the far left, what’s right is wrong and what’s wrong is right. Considering schools are leftists brainwashing centers that focus on genitals, racism, and political activism, its not surprising some of these kids lash out like this.

    Its not and never was a problem facilitated by firearm accessibility.

  14. Patton Oswalt is such a spineless fucking weasel. What a sorry excuse for a man he is. I detest that piece of shit so much.

  15. These kids know that if they have a beef of ANY kind, weather it be personal or just a call for attention, they can do the dirty deed before they reach a certain age, they can actually get away with MURDER.
    After a certain amount of time the bleeding heart’s will get him released for some B S reason.
    Just look around the U S, they already let so called child KILLERS out of custody all the time.
    Time to go back to the Eye For A Eye mindset.
    Don’t care about age or stupid reasons. EVIL IS EVIL, can’t be fixed.

  17. A used Ford Escape killed more and put more in the hospital. The tool isn’t the problem failure to catch and properly address these individuals are the key. The school met that morning with his parents, so is it a policy disconnect? This is way too complicated for Hollywood and politicians but they will keep bloviating.

    • Exactly what the Oakland County Michigan Sheriff pointed out among other issues in the press conference I posted above.

      • The sad reality is that it is exceedingly easy to maim/kill a lot of people if you are determined to succeed and don’t care if you are captured or killed.

        As many have stated, you can accomplish the same or a larger casualty count with items other than firearms.

        • The materials already exist inside the schools too. Not locked up, easy to access.

          Fortunately they don’t seem to teach chemistry or biology anymore so no one knows what they have.

  18. wasnt he caught in the act?.. hang him within 24 hours after a speedy trial, on the 50 yard line of the football field.. room for plenty of witnesses to see the Consequences of his actions .. nuff said..

  19. Meh. I’m starting to feel like they should just go ahead and get all the laws they want. Lord knows they aren’t enforcing any current ones why would they enforce new ones?

    If, by some chance, they decide to come for you plan ahead and load your devices and social media with various “kill whitey” adornments that way you’re guaranteed to be home by dinner at no cost to you.

    • They would also immediately declare that is was NOT terrorism or in any way racist. That would happen before they even began the investigation because reasons.

  20. One more time…..listen up.
    It “ain’t” Gun Violence. It is Defective Citizen Violence.
    “Killing is a matter of will, not weapons.
    You cannot control the act itself
    by passing laws about the means employed.”
    The late Col Jeff Cooper, 1958, handgun expert and founder of Gunsite Academy
    A politician with a law never stops a bad guy with a gun.
    He only controls the good guys….which is his true agenda. Making good people helpless does not make bad people…..or politicians……harmless.
    Dead bodies in a grocery store aisle, or school classroom, or church pew…..the bad guy with a gun…..or the gang member with a gun…. the mentally deficient guy with a gun……or the terribly distraught family member of a gun shooting victim…… or a gun violence survivor……or the Feelz-Gooder Social Do-Gooder….. or the the “hair-on-fire, we’re-all-gonna-die” contingent……or the skin color only voter…..or the “just need common sense” purveyors…..or the “we just need to come together” crowd…..all are the politician’s easily manipulated Useful Idiot Tools to achieve his power and control agenda. Saving lives, preventing dead bodies are NOT the anti-gun crowd’s agenda. They just want to control and prevent others from having what they themselves don’t want others to have. Same old conflict as Good versus Evil.

  21. A law against murder should be all that’s needed. If another law intended to prevent murder is ALSO broken in the commission of a murder, it is clear evidence that passing any number of laws will not prevent murders. In this case there are probably a dozen laws broken prior to the first shot being fired, between underage possession, gun on school grounds, concealed weapon, on and on and on. These idiots are pissing into the wind.

  23. I remember Handgun Control Inc. It never stops. The gun control crowd and those who follow remind me of Fauci and vaccinations these last two years. I think the analogy is close. Do not get the wrong idea that I’m a anti-vaxxer or tin foil hat wearer. I’m only pointing out that there are a lot of people pointing fingers and screaming “Their not vaccinated!!!” They’ve not given it any thought, “Guns are baaaadddd!”.
    I’m pretty well tired of the push to vaccinate and the anti-gunners even more.
    “But why, oh why won’t you give up your weapons of war and take the holy jab?”
    Because, Eff You, that’s why.
    ~just sayin

  24. So the parents knew there was something wrong about the kid and still left a gun accessible to him? And by accessible I mean he could get it. And I know he could get it because he did.

    There’s three things that could have stopped this. First, easy and swift institutionalization of ‘troubled’ children (<18). That is not something that seems like a good idea for those wary of state power. Second, European style gun control. Most of the time when a kid takes a gun from his parents and murders people, it's a gun they own legally. If you actually make owning guns legally impossible, that will dry up significantly. I don't want this option but only mention it as a counterpoint to the last option I can think of:

    Parents have to ACTUALLY be responsible for their wards instead of blaming everything else. You can have kids. You can have guns. You can have kids and guns. You can teach your kids to use guns. All that great stuff. However, if your kids take your guns and murder people with them- you pay the price. You were the adult. I'm not talking about "safe storage laws" saying that you have to keep a gun locked up all the time, etc- that's up to the parent to decide. You should have to take into consideration what that decision means for you, however, instead of saying 'oh well' when your decision allows your kid to kill others.

    I know people say things like "well, the parents already paid because they lost a child, etc etc" but that's clearly not enough because you have people like this who knew there was something wrong and still didn't stop their kid from getting their gun. Maybe if people knew they would be behind bars with their underage kid they would actually do something.

    • “If you actually make owning guns legally impossible, that will dry up significantly.”

      I understand you’re just throwing that out there as a very extreme measure. If we’re going to be extreme, then why not control every entry point with guards and a metal detector? That’s the only way we aren’t going to ever have guns in schools. If they ban guns tomorrow, it doesn’t matter because of the number that already exist in this country. It would take generations to significantly drop the number. Then they would have to actually control the borders because illegal guns would be smuggled in daily.

      But we can’t afford that you say! Oh really? Have you seen what they want to spend on keeping the average temperature from rising half a degree in 80 years (as if they could even do that)? How many people are we losing to climate change? The answer is zero. We’re losing fewer people per capita to weather every decade. More people die from cold weather related deaths than warm weather related. The entire thing is a scam. The only reason they aren’t directing that money toward actually helping people is because there’s too much money and power to be had with the climate scam.

    • blah blah blah..we need to put all these so called ” put the parents in jail types” like YOU in jail.. the scum stole that gun and committed that act.. its time for a quick and swift death penalty for all people that murder without purpose..any kid can break into a gun box or safe and steal a weapon.. time to end the excuses for crime and fix it permanently.. Hopefully big bubba will Entertain him while he waits…leave my right alone!!

      • not helpful that they haven’t surrendered…they said they fled for their own protection…also very odd…the sooner they do that the sooner all the facts will come out…seems all these court cases these days are to decide some primary issue…or foster some new legislation…

  25. “It’s a lie because everything those three shooters and the other deranged psychopaths before them did was already in direct contravention of dozens of laws that have been on the books for decades.”

    of course the people pushing gun control do not mean well. that’s a given.

    however ever since columbine this seems to be a growing “go to” action by kids with problems.

    do we ignore this? do we just write it off as collateral damage?

    (by “we” I mean citizens. isolate right wingers will respond with versions of “I don’t care!” and “that’s their problem!” and “you’d better not touch me!” yes, we know. I’m hoping to hear from citizens.)

    • Those ‘isolates’ as you call them are citizens. Because they are not willing to don jack boots and march in step with your commands does not make them less than citizens, adolf.

  26. Did anyone take a close look at the picture of the “gun” the Michigan school shooter posted on Instagram.

    It looks like a P229 until you zoom in close on the slide and see the rivit on the slide above the trigger and notice that the slide would strike the grip in the area where the slide release should be.

    Air pistol?

  28. I wrote to my VA Senators and asked them to defend the 2nd. Yeah, yeah, fool’s errand. I know. Got the following from “little Timmy Kane” a few moments ago:

    Mr. Michael A Crognale, USAF RET
    1015 Bolling Ave Unit 108
    Norfolk, VA 23508-1612

    Dear Mr. Crognale:

    Thank you for contacting me about gun policy. I appreciate hearing from you.

    It is painfully clear that existing federal policies do not provide a comprehensive approach to address the national epidemic of gun violence. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) continues to report gun violence as a leading cause of premature death in the United States, resulting in the loss of 39,707 American lives in 2019 alone.

    For years, we have seen the scourge of gun violence in the tragedies of Virginia Tech, Sandy Hook, and far too many other places. No single legislative action can eradicate the complex and deeply rooted issues of gun violence. The correct approach focuses on many issues, including improvements to our mental health system, better security protocols, and commonsense rules about gun use, such as keeping firearms out of the hands of dangerous individuals.

    On April 15, 2021, Senator Warner and I introduced the Virginia Plan to Reduce Gun Violence Act of 2021, which would implement measures adopted by the Virginia state government in early 2020 at the federal level. Our bill would enact an Extreme Risk Protective Order process, require background checks on all gun sales, mandate reporting of lost and stolen firearms, prevent children from accessing firearms, and limit bulk handgun purchases to one per month. By enacting comprehensive, commonsense policies that remain on this course, we can create opportunities to achieve meaningful policy reform across all levels of government.

    I also support commonsense measures like universal background records checks to keep weapons out of the hands of people who federal law has determined are too dangerous to possess them. I have cosponsored various pieces of legislation to place limits on high-capacity magazines; ban bump stocks, which were used in the Las Vegas shooting to enable semi-automatic firearms to mimic the rapid firing action of machine guns; repeal a law shielding gun manufacturers from civil liability; and close loopholes that allow domestic abusers to legally obtain weapons and strengthen protections for victims of domestic violence. I also support ending the manufacture of semiautomatic assault weapons for public consumption and expanding federal research on gun violence.

    The public supports commonsense rules, and so do the vast majority of gun owners. I will continue to work to bring about a comprehensive approach that will strengthen the safety of our communities while protecting our Second Amendment rights. As a gun owner myself, I know that you can be a strong supporter of the Second Amendment without tolerating the gun tragedies that are too often a part of our daily lives.

    Thank you again for contacting me.

    Sincerely,

    Tim Kaine

  29. Klamath Falls Herald and News: Thursday, May 7th, 2020/Letters To The Editor
    LETTER TO THE EDITOR
    Gun control

    “Injustice everywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.”

    -Martin Luther King

    As a local outspoken Second Amendment activist and advocate of the .38 caliber revolver (.38 Special and .357 Magnum) for the honest law abiding citizen I was naturally provoked to resistance against “Supreme Court ducks a Second Amendment issue-for now”: Herald and News: Thursday, April 30, 2020.

    This anti-gun commentary pontificated elitist uppity “LBJ/KGB” style socialist class warfare! Of course, don’t expect moral and intellectually honesty from an anti-gun journalist via the L.A. Times. Jeffrey Snyder’s “A Nation Of Cowards: The Public Interest Quarterly Fall 1993 states under The Unarmed Life, “The liberal elite (actually treasonous socialists!) know that they are philosopher-kings. They know that the people simply cannot be trusted; that they are incapable of just and fair self-government; that left to their own devices, their society will be racist, sexist, homophobic, and inequitable – and the liberal elite know how to fix things. They are going to help us live the good and just life, even if they have to lie to us and force us to do it. And they detest those who stand in their way.

    The private ownership of firearms is a rebuke to this Utopian zeal. To own firearms is to affirm that freedom and liberty are not gifts from the state. It is to reserve final judgment about whether the state is encroaching on freedom and liberty, to stand ready to defend that freedom with more than mere words, and to stand outside the state’s totalitarian reach”.

    “Gun Control Is Not About Public Safety” by Nicohlas T. Loux, PhD is linked for further scrutiny on this civil rights/human rights issue via http://www.jpfo.org/pdf03/sentine-19-web.pdf.” Finally my own January 2009 Herald and News letter: “Gun rights protect all races, not just a few” remains archived in this newspaper.

    James A. Farmer, Merrill
    Merrill, Oregon in Klamath County
    Long Live The State of Jefferson!

    These anti-gun “turn in guns for cash scams” are predicated upon political deceit, class warfare, and for promoting disarmed/unarmed victimhood! They have absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with reducing violent crime, protection of the innocent (including women and children), and making our communities safer! No the don’t. Any merchants who sponsor something as vile, odious, and deceitful like this rightly deserve to be boycotted, picketed, and ran out of business! Also……I label this racket as the “surrender, submit, and bend over bare assed to the brute with the bullwhip!” Those who turn their swords into plowshares, will share with those who don’t.

  30. The most vital urgent and DEEP understanding everyone needs to RE-learn is that psychopaths typically are not physically violent crazies but always stealth predators (exploitative deceivers, which explains why the public has been fed a MISLEADING understanding of psychopaths). And then… the most vital urgent and DEEP understanding everyone needs to gain is that a network of manipulating psychopaths ARE governing big businesses (eg official medicine), nations and the world (the evidence is irrefutable) and that, therefore, the Covid Scamdemic is a VERY DESTRUCTIVE WAR AGAINST NON-RULING PEOPLE EVERYWHERE — you and I. But that’s only ONE part of the equation that makes up the destructive human condition.

    It is NOT just a matter of “draining the swamp” at the top and we’re back to our former (sick) “normal.”

    The true, WHOLE, but “politically inconvenient” and “culturally forbidden” reality is more encompassing because “the swamp that needs draining” on a psychological and behavioral level is over 90% of people anywhere. Check out “The 2 Married Pink Elephants In The Historical Room –The Holocaustal Covid-19 Coronavirus Madness: A Sociological Perspective & Historical Assessment Of The Covid “Phenomenon”” at w w w d o t CovidTruthBeKnown d o t c o m

    Without a proper understanding, and full acknowledgment, of the true WHOLE problem and reality, no real constructive LASTING change is possible for humanity.

    Then … SPREAD THOSE DEEP TRUTHS FAR AND WIDE… and DO the RIGHT THING.

    If your employer (even educational or federal employers) wants you to take a Covid vaccine give him/her one of these form letters of exemption found at w w w d o t lc d o t o r g/exempt

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