Arizona Concealed Carry Statistics Revealed

1. As I understand it Arizona is constitutional carry. The only reason to get a ccw there is for the right to carry in other states. People who are aware of their closeness to the mexican border are no doubt already tooled up.

   There’re 8 million gun owners in Ca. Only 6 million total residents in AZ.

   • The reasons I got my CCW was for reciprocity and because in AZ if you have a CCW and purchase a firearm from a dealer you just need to fill out the 4473 and the FFL just files it in their books without calling in the NICS check. Sadly or happily depending on if you ask my wife or myself, I buy enough guns that the shorter amount of time I spend waiting on the govt the better.

     • Many people conducting sales on backpage will ask for CCW as well, for peace of mind no doubt.

   • You also need a CCW in AZ if you are going to carry in establishments that serve alcohol.

   • Constitutional Carry is only a few years old there.
     I had my permit before that, and kept it when I moved because of the great reciprocity. Speaking of which…they don’t mention how many of us non-resident holders there are.

2. This explains why our elected representatives DO NOT CARE about interfering with our 2A. Mag limits, bullet buttons, safety list…3.5 % CCW is not enough to unhinge their thinking.

   Move this to 20% and legislators will have our undivided attention…

   • Move this to 20% and we will have our legislators undivided attention.

     Was that what you meant?

     Actually, in AZ, I’d bet that at least 20% of the populace carries at some time.

     • Yes your correct. Deserve some red ink on that.

       • While some individual cops and jurisdictions may disagree with the legality of it, guns in cars without CCWs (prior to the Constitutional law) were legal..as was open-carry in AZ.
         Lived in AZ for most of the two decades or so.
         The stats..;and this comes from police and fire(EMTs responding to accidents) is that AT LEAST 1/3 of cars in AZ have a LEAGALLY-owned and stored gun in them.
         Not locked, unloaded in an ‘approved’ box.
         IN THE CAR LEGALLY.
         I’ve got that from traffic-school Instructors, cops, and EMTs.
         When I Ieft in 2011, that was the ‘official’ stat. that PDs and FDs went by.
         Never had a dude in a car pull a gun on me…in 20 years there.
         Never had (one of only half a dozen I ever saw in 20 years) legal, open-carry people pull a gun on me.
         The only people who ever assaulted me with firearms were people who didn’t have a legal right to possess them.
         Either too young or ex/current-criminals.
         And at least two of the times I had an encounter with some with a gun? I can’t PROVE but I learned later the gun probably came from outside the US.

3. Need to work on getting more Brothers carrying. . . . .

   • and sisters of all race.

   • Yes please to both of those demographics.

   • the first step to that would be to actually get some brothers out here!

   • And the two 60-69 year old “Unknown” space aliens that are permitted – what’s up with them? Can they pack heat on Zontar?

     • Aliens can carry in Arizona, as long as they are legal and have either a green card, a hunting license, or belong to a shooting club.

   • Need to get more Swiss.Americans packin, yodeling only goes so far, Randy

4. Yes, but, isn’t Arizona a constitutional carry state now? I.E. No need for permit to carry concealed?

   • Yes, yes it is 🙂 Once we eliminate Victim Rich School Zones at the state level I think we’ll be pretty perfect for gun rights. Now if only we can reduce government involvement in other areas.

     • Might want to get rid of the 4-229 signs that carry the weight of law as well.

5. That is awesome seeing the woman’s numbers so high!

6. More states need to start adopting the policy of Constitutional Carry. Colorado may be up next. Fingers crossed.

7. In Arizona, you need a carry license to carry a firearm into a restaurant that serves alcohol. Also, the firearm must be concealed in such an establishment (thanks again NRA).

   • and no drinking when carrying.

8. that figure DOES NOT depict the number of people here carrying firearms. I don’t know anyone with a permit. it’s pointless. the constitution is Arizona’s permit.

   • I also know more people that carry without a permit than with a permit. Also I know several former permit holders that never renewed after AZ went Constitutional Carry.

     • I just don’t see the merit of having a permit here. I’ve bought, sold, and traded more guns on backpage than I can possibly remember and never once had anyone ask for a CCW. I’m not a criminal, and if I got a bad vibe from someone I wouldn’t arm them for any price. as for buying a gun new, it’s never taken more than 15-20mins to do a BG check. as for encounters with law enforcement (occasional moving violation), they’ve always seemed happy that I’m armed and always want to talk about guns. never a mention of CCW. so if everything is fine and dandy why bother getting a permit for something I’m already free to do.

       • For me, the big plus is travel.

9. So rough math it is a 0.019 percent suspension or revocation rate. hmmmm wish the other citizens were so law abiding.. Just sayin…

10. Feels good to be in Arizona. I acquired my CCW shortly before the state became Constitutional carry, primarily so that I could remain a ‘law-abiding gun owner’ while dining in establishments that serve alcohol.

    It is pretty noticeable the difference being in the Phoenix area versus one of the more rural and smaller towns. I rarely open carry in the Phoenix area, and on the few occasions that I have, I’ve been met with strange looks at a minimum to people talking smack about me literally behind my back while in line at the local fast food eatery. (This guy didn’t know I could hear him, and then after placing my order and walking away from the counter I stood about 10 feet behind him while waiting for my food, he finishes his smack talking to the people next to him and turns around to see that I was much closer than he assumed I was. Gave him the -_- look. He turned red and shut up). Phoenix has too many suburbanites to openly carry (if thats your thing) without causing even a minimal amount of fuss.

    Mind you, when you go up to Payson, for example, you’ll see plenty of people openly carrying in all manner of public places, and no one bats an eye at it.

    • I open carry all the time here in Phoenix. Never really ran into any trouble with anybody at all.

      Then again I guess all those suburbanites might be thrown off because I’m young and fit in with them and all that crap. Who knows.

11. Because AZ is a Constitutional Carry State I believe these numbers are soft. I think adding 20% (or more) to these stats would be closer to reality. I know many people that carry without a permit, concealed or open.

    Gotta love AZ

12. Checking the demographics, it seems like there are a lot of OSWGs packing.

    That’s “Old Sunburned White Guys.” Hey, it’s Arizona, where your SPF 30 is just as important as your S&W 40.

13. If I’m reading the stats correctly, it appears that 5K+ Arizonans over 80 are permitted! That rocks IMHO!

14. Better not mess with that ONE 80+ black woman with the CCW.

15. First of all, Arizona DPS does not distinguish between residents and non-residents. We don’t care where you live. So some number of those folks are not actually Arizonans.

    We have only had constitutional carry for two years, permits are good for 5, so I suspect that some number will roll off as permits expire. However, it is very convenient to be able to skip the NICS check.

    When we adopted constitutional carry we also greatly expanded the available options for providing “proof of training” to get the CCW. The big one is that anyone who is “other than dishonorably” discarded from the military, or active duty military, automatically meets the training requirements. So, for a copy of your DD-214 or proof of active duty status (plus the ever present government fee) anyone in the .mil or ex-mil can get one of our cards, which is good in ~30 states.

    • Good to know. Any advice on the best county to apply in? And I assume you meant discharged although discarded is definitely the way I felt :-/

      • It’s a state permit. You send the application to AZ DPS, not any of the counties.

        http://www.azdps.gov/Services/Concealed_Weapons/Permits/Obtain/#4

        The website is a bit of a mess, but somewhere it will list what constitutes proof of training.

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    • ^ This.

17. Umm, the photo of the lovely lady in the post links back to a newspaper article, where I’m assuming she is the author and she seems to be anti-ccw and anti-gun.

    • Well, one thing is for sure… She’s much less likely to be a rape victim or victim of violent crime, regardless of her personal tilt, as long as she’s able to exercise her legal RTKBA

18. No drinking while carrying? So you go into an establishment that serves alcohol and you can’t have any if you are carrying? I’m assuming you mean a bit to much to drink.

19. We have an out of control Federal government guilty of treason with regard to states rights

    http://teapartyorg.ning.com/forum/topic/show?id=4301673%3ATopic%3A2385257&xgs=1&xg_source=msg_share_topic

20. AZ,ID,NH there are more well equipped people than California,they might have a lot of tek9’s and mac 90’s and cobra 25’s, and that’s cute, just like your 15 round capacity magazine’s. Oh I’m sure your 15 million populace has the easy suppressor stamp too, your Hollywood and that’s fine everyone likes movies, but the 6 million in this state has 40 million firearms!I remember a movie called tombstone, and home grow videos from arcada!! AND FUCK ALL YOU ASSGOLES WE ARE ALL AMERICANS, WHEN WAS THAT LOST?? Its sad

21. If you dont have your DD 214 can you use the Honorable Discharge Certificate they issued

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