Beretta Releases the 92GTS with Frame Mounted Decocking Lever

1. I sold my jam-o-matic 92x. Wouldn’t trust it as far as I could throw it.

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   • The M9/92 is test to fire 30,000 rounds without failure. If it was having issues did you talk to Beretta about it?

     • I bought new magazines, replaced the plastic guide rod with a steel one, replaced the spring, and replaced the extractor. I tried many different brands of 9mm. Performance was inconsistent: on some outings to the range, I could fire over a hundred rounds and have no problem. At other times it would jam at least once every magazine, either a stovepipe or failure to extract. I tried different configurations to trouble-shoot but could find no consistent cause for the failures. I sunk way too much money into this lemon, far more than I’d care because I think 9mm is an underpowered cartridge, anyway.

       I sold it through a local gun store: extra magazines, a new set of grips and all, plus a couple of boxes of 9mm, for far less that what I’d put into it. I own a Beretta PX4 full size .40 S&W and have had ZERO problems with it. It is an excellent pistol. I sent an e-mail to Beretta service, and then called them, and didn’t hear back about shipping the POS off to get it fixed.

       Enough. 9mm ain’t worth it. I will probably never buy another Beretta.

       • The PX4 in .40 is great. Never gave me any trouble either. I find it just a little too easy to remove the slide though. It hardly takes any effort at all. I could easily see this happening in a fight like we saw in the movies with the 92.

2. They just keep rolling this thing out. I guess i need to see what the fuss is all about and try one. You guys and gals that have trigger time behind one, what do you think about it?

   • I love the 92.

     I don’t imagine it’s for everyone.

     Grip-rearward design handles and points well for me. Fast on target and solid.

     I prefer the bar dot (Stavenhagen) sights.

     I like idea of the frame safety and cocked and locked carry.

     But to me the safety is secondary. I can work with slide mounted safety as well.

     I removed the right side lever on my 92 as I like a cleaner slide.

     My problem with the new frame safety models is the lever attachment location makes my high grip uncomfortable.

     The vertex grip feels a little smaller for carry but I don’t really have a problems with regular 92 grip.

     I do have large hands , so some with smaller hands will most likely favor the Vertec grip

     My 92 is the gun I am most accurate with as distances extend beyond 15 yards.

     And I have never had a malfunction while shooting my 92.

     YMMV

     • I had the 92AFS Taurus clone in the late 1990s with Pachmayr grips, and it was dead-nuts reliable.

       Dyspeptic Gunsmith *strongly* cautions owners to go no further than a field-strip for disassembly, as he says the chance of tiny springs and parts flying never to be seen again is far too high…

       • LOL.
         That’s true to some degree with any gun.
         Lord knows I’ve hunted many a spring and screw from a Smith and Wesson revolver.
         The spring and pins in the safety are particularly athletic so watch a few videos before climbing that hill.
         Putting the metal trigger was harder than I thought it would be.
         I wasn’t worried about losing the trigger spring but had a helluva time getting it positioned for reassembly.
         Not as easy as a Glock, but much easier than an H&R revolver fix.

   • More forgiving with less than perfect grips or shooting while moving re stovepipe type jams than most other pistols I have handled. Wasn’t a fan of the military sights but they did work well enough out to 50m for various qualification shooting and could still land hits often enough farther out. The safety could get engaged unintentionally but different models or lots more practice typically fixed that. If you find a good price on a used one why not.

   • AQ, not much.

   • Hate 92s.

     • Thx for the info. I dunno I think i may pass.

       • Honestly it would have made more sense in the 80-90’s but it’s more a because it’s cool or memories of service weapon option now…… unless you can have suppressors then it apparently has some ease of use features.

   • Iconic – in a word. You can get something cheaper, smaller, lighter, more capacity, more modern etc. But it’s one of those guns you just love and will keep coming back to. I built them for a while, the 92 cell is the cream of the crop, Beretta treats them special and it shows.

3. So Beretta is copying Taurus?!? Interesting😀🙄

   • That was kind of my first thought but wasn’t the first gen 92 or at least the gun that led to the 92 line a frame safety originaly?

     • Yes, the original 92 with the 92S moving the safety to the slide.

       • … actually, the Taurus (I own one) has a more logical operation – decock is down from fire position, up is safe with hammer down, cocked and locked with hammer back. Mine is the first version of it where the safety lever stays down in a “dead zone” after decocking. The newer ones, or those that got sent back to Taurus, spring back to ” fire” position. I still occasionally carry it, but for cocked and locked I prefer 1911 or CZ75 operating systems.

4. Probably a good Gun for some. I have a friend who owns a collector Made in Italy type, looks well made, runs alright, the handling does not do it for me.

5. No Second Amendment no Beretta…
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6. Yawn, it’s a Beretta 92. I owned one years ago because it only cost me $200. I found it accurate, reliable, clumsy and way too big for the caliber. I DXd it as soon as I bought my first SIG. Don’t misunderstand. The Beretta BM-62 I owned was one of the finest military rifles I’ve ever owned. Not this.

7. Doesn’t the GTS only have the decocker, not a safety?

   • It’s both. The 92XI had a frame mounted safety only.

     • my mistake ….it is decock only

   • Correct, decocker only, no safety. The article has it wrong…you could carry it cocked, but not locked.

8. I just wish Baretta would make the 92 with a fully enclosed slide so you could cut holes in it to make it look cool.

   • Girsan makes a copy with and enclosed slide.

     Used to be cheap. You could slap some Beretta grips on it and modify to your hearts desire.

9. Centurion and compact models when?

   • I’ve noticed that Beretta is very slow to respond to market demand. Their SAO should have been available in the compact as soon as they released it.

10. “The moist notable thing on the GTS though is the X-treme S trigger.”

    Personally, I prefer non-moist triggers.

11. I’m going to say what we’re all thinking. It took Beretta nearly 40 years to catch up with Taurus?!

12. I have and love the 92FS european style Beretta. Runs flawlessly on NATO ammo, however, it occasionally stovepipes on standard target ammo (particularily if you limp wrist it). To me, this newest version doesn’t offer enough improvements over the older pistol to make me want to get one. But, I guess to have to make changes every now and then to show you are still trying to innovate.

    • The M9 contract and police use of the 92, plus civilian desire for “I want what the army has” has kept them going with the 92 for decades, especially in contract configuration. It’s a different market now, so they have to make what might sell or move on.

13. Mi piacciono molto le pistole Beretta, ho una 92S e diverse PX4 in varie configurazioni. Penso che la loro serie 92 sia ancora attuale in quanto hanno ancora la sensazione e l’aspetto di una pistola classica. Ora che Beretta ha praticamente copiato la sicura a tre posizioni Taurus, questo mi dice che vogliono vendere di più di questa serie. Una Beretta 92 è ancora attuale oggi, solo la mia modesta opinione

14. I’m a huge Beretta fan and love the 92 design. There are plenty of good stuff out there though. Not sure if this change is good or bad but I do know that the only constant in this life is change.

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