Biden Uses Lies to Smear Anyone Who Opposes His Anti-Gun Agenda as Complicit in the Deaths of Children

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Assault Rifle weapons ban cosmetic features
Courtesy Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

[Biden] does not want to talk about the details of [the 1994 assault weapons ban], which would reveal that the category of firearms it targets is defined by functionally unimportant features such as folding stocks, pistol grips, and barrel shrouds. He does not want to address the basic problem with such laws: They leave untouched guns that fire the same ammunition at the same rate with the same muzzle velocity as the prohibited models.

Biden instead insists that everyone knows the 1994 “assault weapon” law, which expired in 2004 and included a ban on the sale of magazines that hold more than 10 rounds, reduced mass shootings. “In the 10 years it was law,” he says, “mass shootings went down. But after Republicans let the law expire in 2004 and those weapons were allowed to be sold again, mass shootings tripled. Those are the facts.”

There is little evidence to support the implication that the ban reduced mass shootings. Nor does it seem that the law had an important impact on gun violence generally.

“It is premature to make definitive assessments of the ban’s impact on gun crime,” University of Pennsylvania criminologist Christopher Koper warned in a 2004 report commissioned by the Justice Department. Koper and his co-authors noted that the use of “assault weapons” in gun crimes (primarily pistols rather than rifles) had declined in the six cities they examined, although that change “was offset throughout at least the late 1990s by steady or rising use of other guns” equipped with “large capacity magazines” (LCMs).

“The failure to reduce LCM use has likely been due to the immense stock of exempted pre-ban magazines,” Koper et al. said. “Because the ban has not yet reduced the use of LCMs in crime, we cannot clearly credit the ban with any of the nation’s recent drop in gun violence.” If the law were renewed, they said, “the ban’s effects on gun violence are likely to be small at best and perhaps too small for reliable measurement.”

That report focused on the impact of restricting LCMs, which it suggested “could have nontrivial effects on gunshot victimizations” if it actually succeeded in reducing the supply available to criminals. Notably, the report did not treat the distinction between “assault weapons” and other semiautomatic firearms as important (emphasis added): “The few available studies suggest that attacks with semiautomatics—including [assault weapons] and other semiautomatics equipped with LCMs—result in more shots fired, more persons hit, and more wounds inflicted per victim than do attacks with other firearms.”

Koper et al. noted that the “assault weapon” ban “targets a relatively small number of weapons based on features that have little to do with the weapons’ operation, and removing those features is sufficient to make the weapons legal.” Biden himself has conceded that the 1994 ban did not affect the lethality of legally available firearms, noting that it allowed the sale of guns that were “just as deadly.” That is also true of the new, supposedly improved version that Biden is pushing.

“Evidence for the effect of assault weapon bans on mass shootings is inconclusive,” the RAND Corporation said in a 2020 review of research on state bans. It called the impact of such laws “uncertain.” Last week, RAND researcher Andrew Morral likewise noted that studies of “assault weapon” bans “don’t yet provide enough scientific evidence to indicate what their effects might be.”

What about the claim that Biden made in his speech? “By some definitions,” Morral writes, “mass shootings declined in the United States during the period of the federal ban, but because mass shootings remain, at least in a statistical sense, relatively rare, and because rates of mass shootings are highly variable from year to year, there are methodological challenges to reliably detecting even fairly strong effects for these laws.”

Biden not only ignores these subtleties; he refuses to acknowledge that there is any controversy at all about the impact of the 1994 ban. “These are the facts,” he says, implying that anyone who thinks otherwise is either woefully misinformed or maliciously dedicated to promoting the murder of schoolchildren.

— Jacob Sullum in Biden’s Gun Control Push Combines Slipperiness With Self-Righteous Certitude

52 COMMENTS

    • Why is Biden proposing gun laws when his son isn’t even following them, and getting away with it?

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    • Correct me if I am wrong….

      But didn’t the FBI look at that 10-year period and publically say this law had no effect on any crime rates?

    • “Don’t let the facts get in the way of the narrative.” — Some media mogul, probably.

  1. Lies and scare tactics are all the gun control crowd have ever had. Over the past 40 years or so, I’ve heard all about “Invisible” plastic guns, ghost guns, cop killer bullets, the Black Talon nonsense, the “Tek-9 is a super powerful weapon” nonsense, etc., etc. It never ends with these frakkin’ people.

    Grr, Rookie grumpy this morning! Rookie smash!

    • You forgot the Calico.

      One of the best trolls of the 1990’s was when Biggie said

      Betcha Biggie won’t slip/
      I got the Calico with the Black Talons loaded in the clip/
      So I can rip through the ligaments/
      Put the fuckas in a bad predicament…

      On the Read to Die album that was released on the exact same same day Clinton signed the AWB.

  2. Gosh, you’d think Biden would know the actual 1994 Law better…since he allegedly wrote it single-handed, in the dark, with a quill pen, while under fire in Kosovo, Iraq or Afghanistan…or was it Burgerstan?

  3. Anyone who supports abortion needs to STFU about the deaths of children.

  4. Eh, I say just lean into it.
    Theyve seemed to wholly and enthusiastically embrace being baby killers, groomers, druggies and every other once hyperbolic label of derision and suffered no detriment.

    May as well just become the insurrectionists they claim we are. They keep on with these imaginary fantasies of having to put down an army of liberty extremists 80,000,000 to “protect democracy.” What’s the worst that could happen? They’ll hate us? The economy would collapse? Other nations would steal away our manufacturing and supply chain? Despots would go on camera and talk about how the Constitution is not absolute and the Bill of Rights doesn’t apply literally or equally?

    • Well, the worst is that they’ll come shoot us. But fuck it, God will take me when it’s my time and however He chooses, and if that happens to be by BATFE firing squad, them be the breaks. Hopefully it’ll do some good. But you’re completely correct, why not embrace it? They will only accept complete and utter capitulation, and since we won’t do that they will never be reasonable with us. So to Hell with ’em.

      • “The worst” is that you do nothing and they come for you yet you still do nothing because you’re crushing and snorting black pills while muttering about maritime misadventures.

        • Haha, Strych why am I not surprised you hit the absolute worst case scenario 😂 Damn. Well, all is good here! Not a black pill to be found!

  5. Not only does Biden compulsively LIE to advance his deceitful and unconstitutional anti-gun agenda but some folks don’t seem to know there’s another demonic level to his dishonorable deeds. Biden has not only recently denied the requested mandates for arming teachers and providing hardened security officers and building security enhancements for schools, but he also denies federal funds for school lunches to school districts that refuse to teach woke concepts and provide LGBTQ programs to elementary students. I don’t know of any other American political party that will starve people, including children, in to cooperation with corrupted politics. This lowest tactic is common however amongst dictators and the Communist Party.

    • Cementing his title as worst presidon’t ever. Sniffer in chief &bribe taker from Ukraine. 25th amendment anyone?(Yeah I knew what would be prez. No one would listen to Kamaltoe).

    • GRA
      Was not aware of the school lunch fiasco. Typical of leftists to blame others for what they are doing. In this case harming children. Lowest scum there is.

  6. Cementing his title as worst presidon’t ever. Sniffer in chief &bribe taker from Ukraine. 25th amendment anyone?(Yeah I knew what would be prez. No one would listen to Kamaltoe).

  7. There are too many people on the pro-gun, pro-2A, pro-American side of this that will happily agree that the AR15 is an assault rifle. Too many people that are convinced that these things use ‘clips’ and is capable of taking down aircraft from 2000 feet. People that agree since they don’t use them for hunting when they hunt that they have no other use. We have on our side an element that also sees it as a useless contraption that should be banned.

    But then few seem to realize that Biden is NOT playing with a full deck and is not fit for office. When he says things like this, he is believed. Regardless of any degree of manipulation to take these public/policy stances. Too many people are just taking whatever he says as gospel simply because he says it. This article presents a few facts and a bit of history but those that think government knows better will refuse to accept such things.

    We saw this with Covid19 too. So many people in the general population were motivated by the fear mongering.

    We even have regular commentors here that have completely bought into all this craziness.

    • Some people, tooo many, believe that the.Government would never lie to them. Even when the truth comes up and smacks them in the face.

    • I assume you’re referring to the people who throw “mall ninja” around as a pejorative at the drop of a hat?

      Yeah, well that’s where the venn diagram for Fudd and Boomer overlap.

      It’s OK, bro, you can say just it. What are they gonna do? Mutter angrily while drinking an Ensure to wash down a viagra so they can get a stiffy thinking of a Model 70 before they write another check to the NRA and go watch Hannity?

  8. “mass shootings” are relatively rare.

    Mental health, and ‘criminally insane’, issues that lead to and are the driving cause of homicides or violence or harm (including self harm) of any genre category of murders, suicides, harms, where a plethora of methods are used, are very common. In fact, these mental health and ‘criminally insane’ issues are so common that everyone reading these words now will today (and any day), if you go out in public for at least 3 hours minimum daily, ‘encounter’ in some manner (e.g. passing by them in a store or while driving on the streets, etc…) a minimum (on average) of 83 people who are strangers to you that have the mental health or ‘criminally insane’ issues that lead to and cause such homicides or violence or harm.

    Over 100,000 people nationwide, between June 1st 2001 and June 1st 2022, used the drug overdose method for suicide (including attempts), despite over 90% of them having access to a firearm. 32% of those were attempts that were not successful the first time, but within 2 months of the failed attempt, despite mental health intervention and other methods, over 80% of that 32% were successful by use of drug overdose. As you read these words, you have already encountered, in some fashion, if you spent at least 8 hours each day in public for the past two days, at least 32 people in the past two days who are contemplating possible suicide by drug overdose.

    If you spend at least 8 hours in public daily, you have encountered in the last three days in some manner, at least 37 people who have committed some form of a violent harmful act against another within the last 48 hours before you encountered them. You will also be targeted as a potential victim of a violent crime at least three times for every 8 hours you spend in public.

    You have, on average, for every four hours you spend in public, a .000021% chance of encountering anyone who will become a ‘mass shooter’ or is considering committing a ‘mass shooting’ (no matter the definition used by government or gun-control advocates). On average, for every four hours you spend in public, you have an over 70% chance of encountering a person who will (possibly if given the chance) commit a violent act against you or another or their self (not including mass shooting) either with or without a firearm.

    We live in a crazy, hostile, dangerous, world. ‘mass shootings’ are the very least of the issues and the cause or reason has nothing to do with firearms.

    • Shouldn’t they be called “volume shootings” anyway?

      Kinda like how “social distancing” was actually physical distancing?

  9. Jim Crow Gun Control joe is again blaming guns in an attempt to cover up the fact kids and teachers in Texas and grocery shoppers in NY were murdered because they were all soft targets and stood no fighting chance whatsoever.

    The people who barked at armed teachers and armed security measures are the people barking the loudest for Gun Control. It is waaaay past time for The Second Amendment to cease hinging on mental midgets who criminally misuse anything they can get their hands on.

    The conclusion won’t ever change…

    1) The Second Amendment is one thing.

    2) The criminal misuse of firearms, bricks, bats, knives, vehicles, etc. is another thing.

    3) History Confirms Gun Control in any shape, matter or form is a racist and nazi based Thing.

  10. One fact, in 2007 a scumbag walked onto the Virginia Tech campus with 9mm and 22 caliber pistols and killed 32 people. Another fact, hand guns are the popular choice with gangbangers and other criminals killing record numbers of people in democrat controlled cities. So let’s ban rifles. And then the democrats and complicit republicans can explain why the slaughter continues.

  11. Today in remembrance of the 10’s of thousands of brave men who sacrificed so much and to the 1000’s who gave all. I offer my thanks and respect on the anniversary of the D Day Landings at Normandy. Because of the Sacrifices of those Brave Men, “We the People” continue to reap the rewards of their sacrifices and the Freedom and Liberties they fought and died to preserve. They truly were the ‘Greatest Generation’ and as such deserve that “We the People” be willing to put forth the sacrifices necessary to Honor, the sacrifices they made in Handing Down the Responsibilities for the preservation of the Liberties and Freedoms. They gave so much to Protect and Defend. To do any less is to dishonor their memory and the memory of all the Brave Souls who have fought and Died throughout Our Nation’s history in the pursuit of Freedom and the prosperity that comes from it.
    “Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn’t pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children’s children what it was once like in the United States where men were free.”
    ― Ronald Reagan
    It is with Great Fear and Trepidation that ‘We’ may be “That Generation” and the last hope of Freedom and Liberty in Our Nation. History will write Our Epitaph, but it is ‘US’ who will determine the Fate of Our Nation. That has been the Freest in the history of humanity and through Bravery and Sacrifice may continue to be. In Liberty and as always…Keep Your Powder Dry.

    • “I offer my thanks and respect on the anniversary of the D Day Landings at Normandy.”

      “Behind me is a memorial that symbolizes the Ranger daggers that were thrust into the top of these cliffs. And before me are the men who put them there.

      These are the boys of Pointe du Hoc. These are the men who took the cliffs. These are the champions who helped free a continent. These are the heroes who helped end a war.”

      https://www.historyplace.com/speeches/reagan-d-day.htm

      (Regan speech authored by Peggy Noonan. Considered to be among the greatest presidential speeches of all time…)

  12. Facts dont care about their feelings, as Shapiro would say. However, Their feelings seem to also not care about our facts.

  13. Three presidents Carter, Clinton, and Obama, have had their school-age children set to a School building that was itself turned into an armed Fortress.
    I don’t care what Joe Biden says. He is quite comfortable allowing your children to be shot dead in their classrooms. While the elected Elite of this country have their children, surrounded by men carrying machine guns.

  14. Here’s a possible answer to the problem. Each state can use some of their own State National Guard. They could send them to the F.A.S.T.E.R. program. And rotate the guards out so that every member of the state’s national guard, has a chance as a guardian in the schools.

    I’m sure there would be people who would say this is just a recruiting tool.

    • Maybe if you knew what was going on, you would care, Lefty. Too many people don’t seem to understand that an AR-14 is neither a “weapon of war” nor an “assault rifle”. You see there is no such thing as an “assault rifle”. Both are figments of the Leftist Lame Stream Media’s imagination.

  15. Today a lot of soldiers died defending our freedom, let’s not forget that. 🇱🇷

  16. Wow!!! This is the first time I have seen anything good come out of East Germany. So this was good enough for the Socialists/communists. But not good enough for the little boys in the West. Now it makes perfect sense, why the American socialists were so against the Boy Scouts in America. They did not want Young American boys learning about tanks and other weaponry.

    The Communist Party USA used to complain that the Boy Scouts of America as just a branch of the US Military. It now really seems that the American Communist were just using projection. And hiding their true feelings.

    “East German Boy Scout Tank Unit” video 3 min long

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_zZeWpJ9Hg

  17. So, some angry, disengaged, hate filled dumbass chooses to exact his revenge on society in some manner, it is my fault.
    Or because I refuse to bow to the current narrative, or anyone or anything else, I must be somehow to blame for what others choose to do.
    My father went over the beach a few days after the D-Day invasion. Followed Patton all the way across France and Germany, lived in foxholes and road ditches for most of the time he was there. He lost friends and saw many good men die so some demented old fool could demand we give up rights he and his fellow soldiers fought and bled to establish and keep.
    Sorry Joe, I will not submit, nor comply with any demands for the reduction of our rights and liberties. My Father, and myself have shed our blood and lost friends and family to help secure those rights and liberties you wish to deny us.
    Gun control has nothing to do with safety of our children, public safety in general, nor anything to do with some fantasy of reducing violent crime. And everything to do with control of the citizenry by the politicians and bureaucrats.
    Those demanding disarmament want nothing less than the power to rule rather than govern by the consent of the governed.

  18. Selective Fire and Full Automatic Weapons are NOT, referencing federal law, prohibited, forbidden for “civilians” to own. There is a rather tiresome procedure to go through, and the payment of a $200 tax. Assuming the individual clears the federal background check and gets local approval, the next problem is the current price of the things, which has escalated sharply since passage of the Hughes Amendment. Others can discuss that fiasco should they wish.

    The next problem might lie with state law. Several of the 50 states flatly prohibit the ownership of automatic weapons, aka machine guns and or selective fire capable arms by the private citizen. Check your state of residence. Pennsylvania is not a “prohibitor”, though getting the OK from your county sheriff could be a problem or not.

    Re gun laws, have you contacted your elected reps. lately?

  19. As to comment from Biden, I would not take his word for this month being June without checking.

  20. If the govt. wants a background check they should pay for it . One time check for a period of time like a security clearance or a concealed carry permit once every 5 years or so, again want it FUND it

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