Trying to capitalize on the recent high profile shooting incidents in the news, the Bloomberg funded gun control group Everytown fro Gun Safety released a list of 70+ “school shootings” that they claim happened since the Newtown tragedy. The implication is that if we had just “done something” (AKA banned guns) then these incidents would have been averted. But before the ink on the press release was even dry, over half of them had been thoroughly debunked . . .
The disclaimer at the bottom of the list should tell you everything you need to know.
Data: Incidents were classified as school shootings when a firearm was discharged inside a school building or on school or campus grounds, as documented in publicly reported news accounts. This includes assaults, homicides, suicides, and accidental shootings. Incidents in which guns were brought into schools but not fired there, or were fired off school grounds after having been possessed in schools, were not included. This list includes incidents meeting the above criteria that were brought to our attention after our School Shootings Analysis was issued on February 10, 2014. Incidents were identified through media reports, so this is likely an undercount of the true total.
When you think “school shooting,” the classic Columbine-style attack is what springs to mind; a guy with a gun indiscriminately killing people. But that’s not what Bloomberg’s group is presenting. They include in their count not only typical “school shooting” attacks, but actually stretch their definition so far as to include any time a firearm was discharged on school grounds.
Police officer accidentally pulls the trigger in his squad car with no injuries? According to Bloomberg’s gun control group, that counts as a “school shooting.”
That’s only one of the issues with Bloomberg’s methodology. In short, though, the whole thing boils down to this list including:
- Any time any firearm was discharged anywhere near a school
- No injuries are required to be reported
- Based on news reporting, not independent investigation
With those facts in mind, let’s look at Bloomberg’s list and see how many of these “school shootings” should really be thrown off the list according to the work done by journalist Charles C. Johnson.
# |
Date |
City |
State |
School Name |
School Type |
Debunked? |
1. | 1/08/2013 | Fort Myers | FL | Apostolic Revival Center Christian School | K-12 | |
2. | 1/10/2013 | Taft | CA | Taft Union High School | K-12 | |
3. | 1/15/2013 | St. Louis | MO | Stevens Institute of Business & Arts | College/University | |
4. | 1/15/2013 | Hazard | KY | Hazard Community and Technical College | College/University | |
5. | 1/16/2013 | Chicago | IL | Chicago State University | College/University | |
6. | 1/22/2013 | Houston | TX | Lone Star College North Harris Campus | College/University | |
7. | 1/31/2013 | Atlanta | GA | Price Middle School | K-12 | |
8. | 2/1/2013 | Atlanta | GA | Morehouse College | College/University | Off campus gang shooting |
9. | 2/7/2013 | Fort Pierce | FL | Indian River St. College | College/University | Police shootout off campus |
10. | 2/13/2013 | San Leandro | CA | Hillside Elementary School | K-12 | Murder near campus |
11. | 2/27/2013 | Atlanta | GA | Henry W. Grady HS | K-12 | Gang member, accidentally shot self |
12. | 3/18/2013 | Orlando | FL | University of Central Florida | College/University | Suicide |
13. | 3/21/2013 | Southgate | MI | Davidson Middle School | K-12 | Suicide |
14. | 4/12/2013 | Christianburg | VA | New River Community College | College/University | |
15. | 4/13/2013 | Elizabeth City | NC | Elizabeth City State University | College/University | Off campus, gang related |
16. | 4/15/2013 | Grambling | LA | Grambling State University | College/University | |
17. | 4/16/2013 | Tuscaloosa | AL | Stillman College | College/University | Criminals dispute over gambling |
18. | 4/29/2013 | Cincinnati | OH | La Salle High School | K-12 | Suicide |
19. | 6/7/2013 | Santa Monica | CA | Santa Monica College | College/University | |
20. | 6/19/2013 | W. Palm Beach | FL | Alexander W. Dreyfoos School of the Arts | K-12 | |
21. | 8/15/2013 | Clarksville | TN | Northwest High School | K-12 | Domestic violence |
22. | 8/20/2013 | Decatur | GA | Ronald E. McNair Discovery Learning Academy | K-12 | |
23. | 8/22/2013 | Memphis | TN | Westside Elementary School | K-12 | |
24. | 8/23/2013 | Sardis | MS | North Panola High School | K-12 | Gang violence, out of school hours |
25. | 8/30/2013 | Winston-Salem | NC | Carver High School | K-12 | Single victim, money dispute |
26. | 9/21/2013 | Savannah | GA | Savannah State University | College/University | Argument in dorm |
27. | 9/28/2013 | Gray | ME | New Gloucester High School | K-12 | Suicide, not student |
28. | 10/4/2013 | Pine Hills | FL | Agape Christian Academy | K-12 | |
29. | 10/15/2013 | Austin | TX | Lanier High School | K-12 | Suicide |
30. | 10/21/2013 | Sparks | NV | Sparks Middle School | K-12 | |
31. | 11/1/2013 | Algona | IA | Algona High/Middle School | K-12 | Suicide, not a student |
32. | 11/2/2013 | Greensboro | NC | North Carolina A&T State University | College/University | Gang related drive-by |
33. | 11/3/2013 | Stone Mountain | GA | Stephenson High School | K-12 | Gang related, victim not a target |
34. | 11/21/2013 | Rapid City | SD | South Dakota School of Mines & Technology | College/University | Suicide |
35. | 12/4/2013 | Winter Garden | FL | West Orange High School | K-12 | Gang on gang violence |
36. | 12/13/2013 | Arapahoe County | CO | Arapahoe High School | K-12 | |
37. | 12/19/2013 | Fresno | CA | Edison High School | K-12 | Gang initiation |
38. | 1/9/2014 | Jackson | TN | Liberty Technology Magnet HS | K-12 | |
39. | 1/14/2014 | Roswell | NM | Berrendo Middle School | K-12 | |
40. | 1/15/2014 | Lancaster | PA | Martin Luther King Jr. ES | K-12 | Drive-by, no injuries |
41. | 1/17/2014 | Philadelphia | PA | Delaware Valley Charter HS | K-12 | Gang on gang violence |
42. | 1/20/2014 | Chester | PA | Widener University | College/University | Took place outside school, single victim |
43. | 1/21/2014 | West Lafayette | IN | Purdue University | College/University | Single target |
44. | 1/24/2014 | Orangeburg | SC | South Carolina State University | College/University | Argument off campus |
45. | 1/28/2014 | Nashville | TN | Tennessee State University | College/University | |
46. | 1/28/2014 | Grambling | LA | Grambling State University | College/University | Off campus, drive by, BB gun |
47. | 1/30/2014 | Palm Bay | FL | Eastern Florida State College | College/University | Defensive gun use! |
48. | 1/31/2014 | Phoenix | AZ | Cesar Chavez High School | K-12 | Gang “turf war” out of school hours |
49. | 1/31/2014 | Des Moines | IA | North High School | K-12 | Gang related in parking lot |
50. | 2/7/2014 | Bend | OR | Bend High School | K-12 | |
51. | 2/10/2014 | Salisbury | NC | Salisbury High School | K-12 | Gang related, “accidental” |
52. | 2/11/2014 | Lyndhurst | OH | Brush High School | K-12 | Off campus, after hours, personal dispute |
53. | 2/12/2014 | Jackson | TN | Union University | College/University | Murder in parking lot |
54. | 2/20/2014 | Raytown | MO | Raytown Success Academy | K-12 | Murder in parking lot |
55. | 3/2/2014 | Westminster | MD | McDaniel College | College/University | Drive-by, no injuries |
56. | 3/7/2014 | Tallulah | LA | Madison High School | K-12 | |
57. | 3/8/2014 | Oshkosh | WI | University of Wisconsin – Oshkosh | College/University | Gun fired into ceiling, no injuries |
58. | 3/21/2014 | Newark | DE | University of Delaware | College/University | |
59. | 3/30/2014 | Savannah | GA | Savannah State University | College/University | |
60. | 4/3/2014 | Kent | OH | Kent State University | College/University | Self inflicted accident |
61. | 4/7/2014 | Roswell | NM | Eastern New Mexico University-Roswell | College/University | |
62. | 4/11/2014 | Detroit | MI | East English Village Preparatory Academy | K-12 | Gang related, outside school hours |
63. | 4/21/2014 | Griffith | IN | St. Mary Catholic School | K-12 | Domestic violence in parking lot |
64. | 4/21/2014 | Provo | UT | Provo High School | K-12 | Suicide |
65. | 4/26/2014 | Council Bluffs | IA | Iowa Western Community College | College/University | Mugging gone bad |
66. | 5/2/2014 | Milwaukee | WI | Marquette University | College/University | Robbery gone bad |
67. | 5/3/2014 | Everett | WA | Horizon Elementary School | K-12 | Gang related, out of school hours |
68. | 5/4/2014 | Augusta | GA | Paine College | College/University | Gang and drug related |
69. | 5/5/2014 | Augusta | GA | Paine College | College/University | Gang and drug related |
70. | 5/8/2014 | Georgetown | KY | Georgetown College | College/University | Accidental discharge ricochet |
71. | 5/8/2014 | Lawrenceville | GA | Georgia Gwinnett College | College/University | Suicide |
72. | 5/21/2014 | Milwaukee | WI | Clark Street School | K-12 | Gang battle crossfire |
73. | 6/5/2014 | Seattle | WA | Seattle Pacific University | College/University | |
74. | 6/10/2014 | Troutdale | OR | Reynolds High School | K-12 |
I’ll update the list as more information comes in. But it looks like fewer than seven of these seventy-four instances could be called “school shooting” using the common sense criteria of “spree shooter in a school.” Even fewer reach the Bloomberg-supported definition of “mass shooting.” It looks like Bloomberg and his cronies can’t even assemble a list of school shootings long enough to warrant an article without padding the stats and misrepresenting the facts.
Or, as Charles C. Johnson put it:
If you’re too dumb to draw distinctions between mass killing, gang warfare, suicides, accidental firings, you maybe shouldn’t set gun policy
— Charles C. Johnson (@ChuckCJohnson) June 11, 2014
Where is the NTSB report of the number, location, and fatalities of highway deaths in the same time frame? Automobile deaths outweigh firearms deaths by X to 1.
If excluding suicides, about 2 to 1; including suicides, it is about even.
Suicide are absurd to count. Time and time again it has been shown when guns are not present suicide happens by equal number by other means
Yes, but seeing as how all you have to do is go to the store, pay a large sum of money, fill out a lot of information on a form and wait several minutes, guns are so EASY and EFFICIENT!
Without guns, where on earth could someone find a length of rope, or a belt, or something poisonous, or medications that are harmful in large quantities, or something sharp, or a tall bridge, or…?
Ditto Charles C. Johnson! Spot on!
Moms Demand Action = blood dancers.
True, but it is worse than that. It is that, plus the term someone used recently, Political Pedophilia. It is sick.
Look at this baby!
Political Paedophagia.
I had to look up the definition of phagia…. oh gross! Wow, that is even worse that what I wrote (and handily misspelled while I was at it). Political Paedophagia is indeed more accurate.
Anyone surprised? Anyone? No? No. Good.
Can’t tell if they’re getting more brazen or if they are just starting to actually believe their own BS…
I vote brazen. Well, I mean they did make it into People magazine after all. Oh, and some news (softball style) interview. So yeah, that is pretty big time right there. Time to step up the game with even more easily debunked sensationalism!
The leaders have got to know it’s all BS. Their followers, however, are just taking all of it in, believing every word, with no filtering or doubting anything their leaders tell them. And the large number of followers are the real danger.
Someone PLEASE buy Charles C. Johnson a drink!
I sent this off to Politifact as soon as I saw it. They’re generally left leaning, and sometimes appallingly biased, but they tend to call bullshit when they see it too. I predict this gets “half true” at the very best.
Don’t hold your breath on that one.
BP hits the nail on the head!
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2014/jun/13/everytown-gun-safety/have-there-been-74-school-shootings-sandy-hook-clo/
Is anyone really surprised? They know that they’re in the wrong so they’ll do whatever they can to turn the tide which obviously involves lying. What I assume is, in their eyes, they feel that most or at least some people will take their bogus statements at face value and parrot it out to other people and different forms of media and overtime people will cite it as fact. I cannot wait for the next elections where some of these knuckleheads get voted out so people can stop referring to gun owners as a “vocal minority”.
Isn’t it funny how “vocal minority” is a bad thing to leftists only when that minority is someone they don’t agree with?
I know a kid down the block that said the word “Gun” at school the other day. Does that count toward the 70?
Only if the kid pointed a finger, too.
or ate his pop tart in the wrong way…
3/21/14 – University of Delaware. A student was indeed shot fatally, but at an off-campus apartment complex.
http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/University-Delaware-Student-Shot-Killed-179198631.html
But, it was a “child student”, so, you know…
No real surprise that the media jumped all over a completely bogus anti-gun group “study”. If they reported the truth, it wouldn’t get as much attention.
That’s pretty shameless. These tactics are on par with those of the scum-of-the-earth corporate PR and marketing parasites who brainwash people for profit instead of doing honest work.
Like Monsanto?
Well yes, but invoking that particular company is like invoking nazis. I was thinking even in regards to much less evil companies…
You do know that Shannon Watts of Everytown was the PR director at Monsanto? So the comparison is very accurate if you ask me.
So she’s literally got the blood on her hands of countless poor South American and Indian farmers who lost everything and in some cases comitted suicide after ending up with sterile plants and poisoned soil where nothing but Monsanto seeds they couldn’t afford would grow? Add to that the blood of the starved families and women and children driven off the farm and into prostitution. That’s ironic.
I’ve made a similar comparison on a number of left leaning sites about Shannon. And the result? Nothing but silence. It’s the achilles heel of Everytown that should be exploited to the fullest.
It looks like as time went on, they became more and more loose (or maybe that’s “desperate”) with what was considered a “school shooting”.
Let me get this straight…. you mean a guy getting shot with a nerf gun at midnight three blocks from a closed DUI school doesnt count?
DUI School Written Test:
http://www.dailypaul.com/320487/written-dui-test?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+dailypaul%2FFClq+%28The+Daily+P.Au.L+-+Peace+|+Gold+|+Love%29
I love the Net. But…back in the day, you had some level of vetting done before something actually made it into mainstream media. Now, with instant this and instant that, any press release, any “statement of fact” is treated as though it’s “the truth” without a shred of investigation.
The Bloombergs and Watts of the world know this and they can lie and manipulate with reckless abandon. They’ll make front page news; the corrections or retractions, which almost never happen, end up buried.
“Incidents were identified through media reports, so this is likely an undercount of the true total.”
Given the media’s reluctance to report DGUs this may well be true.
Everytown for Gun Control appears to be populated solely by Hysterical Mothers who will say anything. You do have to admire their work ethic, they make things up faster than MSNBC and the New York Times combined. If George Orwell is watching from above (or below) he must be proud.
Hahaha that should be their new name, Hysterical Mothers Who Will Say Anything!
The more they treat the definition of school shootings as elastic the less credibility they will have.
I can’t find any evidence that the Grambling state incident involved a BB gun… Injuring 3 would take a pretty serious effort. Maybe a mixup with another incident? (I didn’t read them all)
Im hoping this has been retweeted at Shannon and her goons, and forwarded to all major national and local news stations… if not we are just shouting in the wind.
Every major news outlet, plus the president, swallowed this uncritically. When I saw the number 74 in the headline at HuffPo yesterday, I knew it was going to be bullshit. Anyone with common sense who keeps up with news knew that figure had a bad smell to it. Thanks to Johnson for doing journalism, since no one in the MSM cares to anymore.
Meh, nobody is able to any more. The industry is rife with “Communications” and “Journalism” majors who are too busy padding their resume to check anything or do any actual reporting.
Wow, looks like even CNN is (kinda) calling them out on the BS. They could have hammered the point home more, but credit to them for at least doing this much fact checking.
http://www.cnn.com/2014/06/11/us/school-shootings-cnn-number/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
Interestingly, CNN included Isla Vista but Moms did not. I think it should not be counted as a school shooting either.
Hmm. Interesting. Looks like CNN only saw 15 as true school shootings. That means Moms demad Action and Everytown were only exaggerating by about (74 divided by 15) 500%!!
Were these not the same people saying that the Boston marathon bomber was a “gun violence” victim?
1) Actually, Nick, MDA say they are excluding off campus shootings. True, they seem to have been a little over-inclusive.
2.) As for including suicides, MDA has always included suicides in their “gun violence” definition as a way of padding their stats.
real time death toll in the united states from Jan 1, 2014 – Jun 11, 2014 (6:34:47 PM)
Abortion: 537211
Heart Disease: 289826
Cancer: 243823
Tobacco: 155084
Obesity: 136031
Medical Errors: 86404
Stroke: 66530
Lower Respiratory Disease: 54893
Accident (unintentional): 48162
Hospital Associated Infection: 43867
Alcohol: 44310
Diabetes: 32264
Alzheimer’s Disease: 29169
Influenza/Pneumonia: 27238
Kidney Failure: 18948
Blood Infection: 14828
Suicide: 16354
Drunk Driving: 14980
Unintentional Poisoning: 14072
All Drug Abuse: 11080
Homicide: 7444
Prescription Drug Overdose: 6646
Murder by gun: 5093
Texting while Driving: 2654
Pedestrian: 2215
Drowning: 1735
Fire Related: 1551
Malnutrition: 1228
Domestic Violence: 647
Smoking in Bed: 346
Falling out of Bed: 264
Killed by Falling Tree: 66
Struck by Lightning: 36
Mass Shooting: 12
Spontaneous Combustion: 0
from Jan 1, 2014 – Jun 11, 2014 (6:34:47 PM)
Link to source please.
I found it. The google is strong with this one.
http://www.romans322.com/daily-death-rate-statistics.php
hmm, I’m surprised texting and driving isn’t on there. Maybe lack of info? Good post though.
If abortion counts as a death, wouldn’t miscarriages as well? It’s almost as if abortion opponents don’t actually give a shit about life and death and only care about accusing the other side of murder while advancing their political agenda at any cost.
That reminds me of someone else, too.
If they’re so much in favor of life, then why aren’t they camped out on the White House steps demanding an end to the wars? No, they want to ensure a supply of cannon fodder who can be aborted in their 78th trimester in some god-forsaken desert half-way across the world.
So MDA lies/ exaggerates the truth. In other news the sun is scheduled to go down tonight.
Dang it, NBC news just cited this on their nightly news broadcast citing Everytown. I’m not surprised, but it sure pisses me off.
When the president is your buddy, you don’t need facts. Just ask Eric Holder.
I hope no one is under the impression facts actually matter. Shannon is all packaging, no product.
I just saw this cited this on my local news channel, i doubt anything will come of this, just like those two cop killers, it dosent fit the narrative maybe 2 days of coverage at best.
Would you please precede photos of that skank with – NSFW.
Huh, for being the so called “good guys” they really are stretching the stats.
They’re trying to “make a difference” by outright lying…Like they’ve done before.
Hmm, really shows how wrong they are when pretty much every time they come out with more “stats” those stats are more twisted than a bag of pretzels.
That’s not padding, misleading, or anything else you want to say to take the edge off. It’s lying. Plan and simple lying. Like the president, congress, school teachers, and half the rest of the people in politics. Lies.
The next step is coming up with a response to the following exchange:
Us : “That list is easily half garbage”
Them : “OH! SO 30 or so SCHOOL SHOOTINGS ARE ACCEPTABLE? THE CHILDREN!”
not that i think arguing with these people will ever be successful, but it can’t hurt to plan ahead.
Rather ironically I just had this conversation on FB debating this with my cousin.
The total may not actually be 74, but it is close. I guess the real question is, what is the ideal number of mass shootings you’re looking for if 7 isn’t it? I honestly think you have a problem if you are jumping to the defense of objects designed to kill people before defending the rights of children to not fear for their lives in school. I like guns. I think the mechanics are fascinating. I am also afraid of being shot in traffic every day by someone who thinks I’m driving too slow, or because I think social democracy is a good idea, or because of my religious beliefs. I am a white, male, Vermont native, and I have to be that afraid of guns? Screw that, and screw everyone who thinks guns make things safer.
While I don’t want my kids to live in fear I have no clue how to relate to this thinking. I don’t believe I live in fear, I believe I’m prepared for the bad and unpredictable things that are part of being alive.
Ask him which amendment gives him the right to “feel” any specific way and then link him to the video below from Colion Noir.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phBEhZK5pvY
Very good argument.
Pssst. Here’s a clue – you are living in fear. The gun grabbers and oligarchs won with you. Change your attitude. And stop reading the Boston paper.
Yes WE all know it’s BS. BTW my favorite gun shop( Blythes) is in Griffith,Indiana. I don’t have the slightest recollection of a so-called school shooting there in April. What a load of s@@t. For the children…
Some how I don’t think even most of those happened with in a block of a school… why don’t they list drunk driver fatalities, Rapes, knifing, non-firearm related suicide, etc… Just more garbage for the septic tank to deal with..
They had a similar list a few months ago on their facebook page…I picked 5 at random and researched them. Everyone I looked at had nothing to do with kids, mostly were just two adults somewhere in the rough area of a school. 4 of the 5 were people in their 30’s or older. They were just trying to call anything a “school shooting” for publicity. When I questioned this on their page, I was promptly banned for telling everyone what was really in the Kool-Aid.
So glad that at least CNN said 15, not 74…..but all of the other media markets grab it and run, just tearing it off the printer like they do anything else that comes across the news wire
I saw a map on yahoo that used similar data and I knew it was bogus when I saw the pin next to houston. Two jackasses keeping it real is not at all similar to columbine or newton.
http://www.khou.com/news/local/BREAKING-NEWS-Suspected-gunman-in-Lone-Star-College-shooting-arrested-in-Plano-Texas-188323671.html
#1 – FALSE: Fort Myers’ first homicide of 2013 was being committed on Barden Street in the Dunbar neighborhood, and just yards away from the Apostolic Revival Center and Christian School.
This reminds me of the famous MAIG Road Trip when they read off the names of criminals and terrorists who were shot by police as “gun deaths.” Well, technically…
Let’s pay for them to tour European WW2 battlefields and do that. Should keep them busy for a while.
Trying to fill the gaps here (for the ones that were not “debunked”):
First batch:
#1 – A man is shot dead in the parking lot of Christian school in Fort Myers’ first homicide of the year.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/01/08/school-shooting-florida/1817149/
#2 – Student brings shotgun to school after bullying, two wounded
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/teen-opened-fire-california-high-school-adult-article-1.1239975
#3 – College student shooting an administrator in a dispute over financial aid has a history of mental illness and at least one earlier violent crime.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/16/sean-johnson-assault-st-louis_n_2489249.html
#4 – Domestic dispute escalated in the school parking lot. 3 victims all related to the shooter.
http://www.wkyt.com/wymt/home/headlines/Police-Two-dead-in-shooting-at-Hazard-Community-Technical-College-187033371.html
#5 – One 17 year old killed near a university gym outside a stadium after the game finished with several fights (both between players and people outside stadium).
http://www.suntimes.com/25009289-761/mom-of-teen-killed-after-basketball-game-sues-chicago-state-cps.html#.U5kXWS-7mFc
#6 – Three injured as fight between two people at a college escalates.
http://abc13.com/archive/8963781/
Here’s what it is:
We know the general public is comprised of stupid, low information mouth breathers who believe anything they’re told because decades of numbing complacency have dulled their ability for critical thought.
The antis know the general public is comprised of stupid, low information mouth breathers who believe anything they’re told because decades of numbing complacency have dulled their ability for critical thought.
The difference? We seek to educate the public, however futile that may be. They seek to deceive and control the public.
They know exactly what they’re doing, and the MSM played right into their hands. As I’ve always said, the “gun control” debate is about good versus evil, plain and simple, with legions of idiots acting as jury through votes.
The biggest mistake this country ever made was giving everyone the right to vote. The founding fathers were against it, look it up.
I haven’t looked at every entry here, but #52 was not “off-campus”, it was in the school parking lot. And if it was during the basketball game, arguably it’s not “after hours”. And does it really matter that it was a “personal dispute”?
I 100% agree that MDA is using mischaracterizations and outright lies in a lot of their propaganda, but we have got to be 1000% more careful not to do the same, or even approach the appearance of doing so. We have enough numbers on our side that it’s completely unnecessary.
I was thinking something similar… how is a gang shooting in a school not a school shooting? A gang shooting makes perfect sense at a school. Cowards can pull out a gun and not expect resistance in the gun free school zone.
It is really low of them to classify things like the domestic violence against an Asst Principal as a “school shooting”.
Second batch:
#7 – Two persons wounded in shooting outside a middle school.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/31/price-middle-school-shooting_n_2592672.html
#14 – Two women wounded inside New River Community College’s satellite campus, which is inside the mall.
http://articles.wdbj7.com/2013-04-15/malicious-wounding_38498802
#16 – Three wounded in (drive-by??) shooting at night outside university building. Unknown attacker.
http://www.knoe.com/story/21986135/three-shot-at-grambling-state-university
#19 – Home dispute (Father and brother killed) continues on university campus where three random people are killed.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/12/santa-monica-college-graduation_n_3427983.html
#20 – Workplace violence – two custodians probably killed by a third one.
http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/news/crime-law/man-linked-to-double-dreyfoos-murders-tried-to-sel/nYTsf/
What are you saying? The Lefties lied to further their agenda?
No. Of course not.
Third batch:
#22 – Shooter exchanges fire with police at elementary school. Nobody injured.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/school-shooting-tragedy-averted-in-ga/
#23 – Gun accidentally discharges inside 5 year old’s backpack. Nobody injured.
http://www.wmcactionnews5.com/story/23229636/5-year-old-fires-gun-in-school-cafeteria
#36 – One killed as student brings gun to school after argument.
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/12/30/22112064-gunman-went-bowling-before-arapahoe-high-school-shooting-police-say?lite
#28 – Two wounded after fight broke off near a playground outside a school. Shooter fled the scene.
http://www.wesh.com/news/central-florida/orange-county/authorities-surround-school-after-gunfire-reported/22280044?tru=XKppp#mid=19201539
#30 – Bullied 12 year old kills teacher and injures two students
http://www.wesh.com/news/central-florida/orange-county/authorities-surround-school-after-gunfire-reported/22280044?tru=XKppp#mid=19201539
Ok, even weirder – the comment platform actually switches order of links 🙂
Fifth batch:
#56 – Student found dead in highschool field house
http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local/article/Armed-Madison-High-School-student-arrested-5435172.php
#58 – couldn’t find this one. The closest match was another student found dead in an apartment campus “before” Sandy Hook
http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/University-Delaware-Student-Shot-Killed-179198631.html
#59 – one killed on university campus
http://simba.savannahstate.edu/news/read.aspx?=340 or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBKtx-nevb8
#61 – man killed at university dorm
http://www.kob.com/article/stories/s3396323.shtml#.U5kn-i-7mFc
#73 – One killed and one wounded at university building
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2014/06/09/student-hailed-as-a-hero-after-seattle-pacific-university-shooting-speaks-about-his-experience/
#74 – One killed in school shooting
http://q13fox.com/2014/06/10/breaking-reports-of-active-shooter-at-high-school-near-portland/#axzz34OXms3WX
So far, other than a couple of incidents, all these murders could have been committed with knives, usually leaving one body behind…
I was looking at these today. I believe the first one was a dad shot by someone while dropping his kids off at school, in the parking lot. Seems like a case of ‘we know where he will be in the morning so lets get him there’. I think it might have been #4, a guy shot his ex-gf, her dad and cousin in the parking lot of a college when she was there to swap custody of their 2 year old child. My guess is he shot dad and cousin just because they were there, and it could have happened in a library parking lot just as easily.
I got about halfway through the list and found about 5 that might qualify as a more random type of school shooting, meaning more than one target or random targets. Lots of these are one guy shot another guy because they were pissed at each other or had some other type of altercation.
In some cases they are legit, kid bringing shotgun into the gym and shooting multiple kids. But is that worse than if he had done some kind of Boston Marathon type bomb in his backpack? If he got the shotgun in, that would imply no metal detectors etc. in a crowded gym that would have a much more devastating impact.
Hmm. Interesting. Looks like CNN only saw 15 as true school shootings. That means Moms demand Action and Everytown were only exaggerating by about (74 divided by 15) 500%!!
Were these not the same people saying that the Boston marathon bomber was a “gun violence” victim?
Mr Johnson, I like the cut of your jib!
Again, proper use of statistics in thrown out the window – a favorite tactic of those whose conclusions are not supported by the the numbers. Lack the numbers, no problem, just make then up, be loud and the masses will believe it.
Shannon and Bloomie’s mug shots should be in the dictionary right by the definition of “Heteroscedasticity”.
some “subverted to be truthful MDA/Shannon” graphics for your enjoyment:
http://www.defensivecarry.com/forum/second-amendment-gun-legislation-discussion/192192-moms-demand-founder-good-guy-gun-has-never-stopped-bad-guy-gun-2.html#post3292470
http://www.defensivecarry.com/forum/second-amendment-gun-legislation-discussion/190368-subverting-mda-everytown-posters.html
Needing a password just to view stuff is terribly off-putting.
I hope nobody flames me because this is a legitimate question: why does it look like the majority of these “incidents” (putting aside the fact that they are not “school shootings” as the media likes to glamorize) are occurring in gun friendly states? I’ve heard several times about how this kind of stuff doesn’t happen near as much in gun friendly states but I see a number of them up there that I believe are fairly open towards gun ownership and possession; and very few in states such as California, New York, Maryland and New Jersey. In fact if I counted right, I only counted four. I’m really asking so hopefully nobody takes offense to this!
You also have to ask yourself if they are ignoring shootings in states such as California, New York, Maryland and New Jersey. Consider the source.
For Chris:
The list seems to have more incidents in gun friendly states due to a random selector “firearm incidents near a school”. In a single night (or maybe two) in Chicago IL (very unfriendly towards guns) more people will die or be injured by firearms than the total number of people in this list.
I believe #6 was a stabbing…
Please tell me that all of you gun haters really don’t think that banning guns will stop violence, if you do then I feel sorry for you, it is not good to be walking around and being that totally stupid, just sayin’…
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