“We hold many CEOs and corporations in high esteem, and they often elevate public debates about social policy, economics and trade. But on gun violence, Corporate America has been largely silent . . . Why should a private company wade into this fierce debate? Because the country needs help sorting through the facts and finding a way toward consensus. For America to reduce gun violence, leaders have to lead.” – Corporate America, we need you to show leadership on guns [via dallasnews.com]
“For America to reduce gun violence, leaders have to lead.”
They got part of the answer, anyway.
The Target CEO needs to focus on protecting women and children from any further attacks in his stores’ bathrooms. That venture into liberal social policies has already been disastrous. Because of his decision to bow to the LGBT agenda, I no loner shop at Target. Millions of others should join me as a sign that we will not support those who undermine our society.
Greg, you hit the proverbial nail on the head. My family no longer shops at Target, or will avoid any store that doesn’t practice common sense in protecting children and women.
But have you told Target about the (right) decision? If they don’t know, they don’t care. I have told them. I don’t know if anyone listened, but I told them.
Or you could walk your wife and kids into the ladies’ room and pee in the stall next to them. If anyone asks just tell them you’re a proud Black ethnically-Muslim lesbian and if they question that, then you call them a transphobic, xenophobic, racist shitlord.
I agree 100% I won’t shop at Target anymore because of their policies. I’ll buy overpriced crap elsewhere.
Based on quarterly reports it would seem you’re not at all alone. They’ve been losing serious money and stock value ever since their CEO decided to go full retard on the Bathroom thing.
The stock dip has nothing to do with the bathroom nonsense. Homophobes and other people scared of their own shadows were never a big part of their customer base, anyway.
Yep, we don’t shop there anymore either. It’s only a matter of time until other stores do what they did, but in the mean time, we don’t support them and don’t shop there.
If private companies started voicing their opinions on guns, I’m not sure the MSM would like the outcome. Their anti-gun echo chamber doesn’t exist so much out in the real world in the U.S. of A..
If a major corporation wants to take a policy position on something controversial, like firearms, they had better be fine with alienating 50 percent of the available customers. For privately held companies, that can be doable. Like Chick-fil-A’s position on Christianity, for example.
For a publicly held corporation, it’s flat suicide. The smart ones tread very lightly making statements such as: “We expect all local laws to be followed, period, and request our customers to treat others with courtesy”.
Saying something, without saying anything…
That says everything: “we mind our own damn business, unless somebody causes problems”, which has traditionally been a pillar of American culture.
Violence with guns isn’t any more special than knife violence, vehicular violence, or baseball bat violence. I would like it if overall violence could be reduced, but that isn’t something that government can fix for us.
Or private companies, for that matter.
I think that is the perfect way for marginal businesses to go out of business and for thriving businesses to become marginal. Target made itself a target and I don’t go there anymore.
The Leadership word. Misappropriated word for Lying.
You know what I learned… I learned Leadership was spelled LeaDRSHIP.
Still touting about companies asking people not to carry guns on their properties. Weak.
Brick and Mortars need to worry about surviving the online onslaught vs limiting the rights of their customers and pushing more of them towards e-commerce. You can buy virtually anything via the Internet these days.
There is a Marianos in the burbs of Chicago that sees regular protest because they don’t have the “no 92fs” signs up. Some idiot had one that said “signs save lives.” Man I didn’t know that signs were bullet proof, nor that criminals cared what a sign said if they were intent on robbing/killing/maiming someone.
Although it’s their option I am certainly going to give my business to the gun friendly store if plausible.
Even if the signs were literally bullet proof, odds are they wouldn’t save any lives.
Unfortunately, many online retailers are anti-gun. Amazon, for example.
Then use Amazon Smile, and you can select the charity that you would like to contribute to. I chose the Second Amendment Foundation. Everyone that uses Amazon should be doing this.
Yep. I picked GOA.
I may have missed some propaganda from Bezos et al, but what I do know is that short of actual guns and ammo, you can buy pretty much anything else firearm related, and often in Prime.
I have purchased barrels, various trigger groups, there’s eleventy billion holsters and mags, let alone stocks. Go search “rifle scopes” – 26K results. It’s my first stop when I’m looking to buy accessories.
Things have changed some recently. Yes you can still buy scopes and various accessories separate from the actual gun, but actual gun products like replacement trigger groups have been clamped down on. I had the ALG ACT trigger in my wishlist and it’s no longer available.
How they determine what is good and what isn’t is anyone’s guess.
Huh. Haven’t seen it, but will look for it.
They keep saying “debate.”
I do not think that word means what they think it means.
To start with, sometimes a company’s job is serving a need, not creating a market through manufactured consent. Indeed, companies propagandizing the sheeple used to be frowned upon.
…”a company’s job is serving a need, not creating a market through manufactured consent. Indeed, companies propagandizing the sheeple used to be frowned upon.”
Jim, No offense, but I think you missed the intent of the last 100+ years of marketing.
I seem to recall an article on this very site not too many days ago giving Uber shit for forcing their customers to sit through an anti-gun propo piece, The people of the guns were not amused.
If we could only reach a consensus that the Second Amendment means EXACTLY what it says.
Then find a worthy stone, carving words for eternity
And then prepare for people to recast, reimage, and reshape the words on that stone…
It is the responsibility of a business leader to increase the value of the company for it’s investors. To intentionally alienate a large portion of their market for a political talking point is career suicide. Rule number one of being a business leader is never take a side in a political controversy. It is hazardous to the long term profitability of a company.
Funny how the stereotypical anti’s are also anti-corporation lefties but if they can use political leverage to influence a corporations policies into affecting peoples behavior then long live the corporation.
Burn down Walmart and urinate on Sam Waltons grave unless we can use Walmarts size and influence to stick it to gun owners of course.
For the prog/left legion, the end always justifies the means. If they can use big business to advance their agenda, then big business is not only okay, but absolutely necessary. Thus the Democrats have become a corporatocracy far more than Republicans ever were.
“the country needs help sorting through the facts and finding a way toward consensus.”
In other words, everyone needs to think the way we want them to think so we’ll tell you which “facts” to believe so you don’t have to try to think for yourself.
Consensus is a horrible way to make decisions, especially on science or natural rights. Facts, reason, and evidence should be the deciding factors.
That is logical but not necessarily correct.
The US for many many years had a general understanding on what made one an American. A consensus. All of this has been thrown out by the progtard leftists. Certainly in recent years (or since the 60s). Things like an understanding of the importance of limiting immigration and that those allowed in must become Americans by assimilating.
Consensus appeals to the average person because they believe we live in a place where their say/vote actually matters lol.
As for me, I’ll vote with my dollar, as if Target needed to give me more reasons to never shop there again….
The public doesn’t need help sorting through the facts. Most people are capable of making decisions for themselves and the grabbers aren’t happy with the results Antigunners just want help in their attempts to legitimize their lies.
The problem isn’t that the facts aren’t known, but that the facts don’t support the leftists’ hysteria for gun control. The facts don’t need to be “sorted out”, they need to be accepted.
The left will never do that because they honestly believe their feelings and perceptions count as facts. As long as this is true, discussion and debate are meaningless. You will have greater luck explaining physics to a four year old.
So the people who hate big business and constantly crusade against them now want them to join a crusade against another business. Progressives reach new levels of stupid daily.
Is anyone else getting Hillary adds auto play into the articles?
I’m not sure where to put this, Kroger at one point said “guns are okay in our stores”, but when I was in my local Fred Meyer store (Kroger owned) the other day, I was told by the gun counter guy, “no more black guns (AR’s) because corporate headquarters said they’re too scary.”. They originally moved them to the back room, but if you asked they would bring them out and sell you one, now they’re just gone. Way to have a backbone Kroger.
I thought Kroger changed hands soon after standing up to MDM. I don’t think one had anything to do with the other; just that ownership changed.
“For America to reduce gun violence, leaders have to lead.”
Perhaps they are leading and the hoplophobes just don’t recognize it because it’s in the opposite direction…..
I am no more inclined to care what a Big Business CEO has to say about guns and gun rights than I am to what some Hollyweird actor has to say about it.
tl;dr version:
“It’s time for all the rich and powerful people to get together and take guns away from the ordinary citizens.”
Or order someone less important to do so- either way works.
That’s pretty much it: it’s the rich and powerful who make the decisions for corporations, not us common folks. Corporations only parrot the views of the rich and powerful with speech stolen from the rest of the stockholders.
I’ve been a subscriber to the Dallas Morning News for over thirty years. That just ended.
ha went over to Dallas news to let them know theyre being exceptional Useful Idiots for their proggie masters, and man they are getting roasted in the comments.
So liberals are in a tizzy when Citizen’s United becomes precedent. Now they want big corporations to politicize against the 2nd amendment. Hypocrisy much.
The comments to this editorial indicate that a lot of people have “sorted out” the facts and decided to keep their gun rights.
Hey Target Board members, how are those shares and business outlook models coming along since your transgender bathroom remarks???
Dropping you say? You lost how much again?!?!?!
Target is merely doing what anyone who is miserable does…………invites others over for company to wallow in their misery.
I know personally that my family has barred doing any business with Target. That averaged about $250 a month.
last time i was in a target it was dead….no pun intended…..all i see are there stores closing up….
The Left has to make their mind, do they hate large corporations or do they love them or is it they only Love you if you do what they want you to do and as soon as you go off script, they hate you again.
I can never figure these guys out
Ok, so it’s a fight?
We got this.
if everyone that does not shop because of a policy would send a post card to store they would soon figure out lost of business
And if the principals and shareholders were compelled to move (i.e., pack yer sh_t, no forget it, leave it where it lay, & git), they wouldn’t so easily get to go buy a different department store chain and do it again.
Here’s Target’s latest triumph over common sense:
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/07/13/transgender-woman-arrested-in-voyeurism-incident-at-idaho-target.html
Big Business and Big Government have always been part of the same hypocrisy. Big Retail is dying. Let’s hope that Big Government is next.
Hey! I bet the Target logo makes a great …target for the gun range! Haven’t been to Target in a few years-I guess it’ll stretch to forever now:)
Piss off libtards AND save money…..
Shop WalMart.
Don’t send them my way. Keep them on Target. 😀
*cough* British East India Company *cough*
Any alliance between business and government to oppress the rights of the people is the dictionary definition of fascism.
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