“Police used an electronic stun gun to subdue a Brentwood man Tuesday night at a gun control rally in Concord,” wmur.com reports. “Officers took 52-year-old Daniel Musso to the ground shortly after he interrupted a speech in favor of expanded background checks for people purchasing guns.” Unfortunately, the video [click here to view] starts after the cops were all over Musso’s ass. Anyway, Musso faces multiple charges, including simple assault of a police officer. “The confrontation started at the podium when Musso interrupted a speech by John Cantin of Manchester. Cantin, who was wounded and lost his daughter in a 2009 shooting, was speaking in favor of expanded background checks on gun sales. “Why are you shaking talking about this? You’re not the truth!” Musso said . . .
After numerous interjections, Musso decided to walk away, but Concord police had been called. When officers began talking to him, Musso initiated physical contact with police, Sexton said.
Wait. What? You call that physical contact? Check out the video. Musso places his hands gently on the officer. Still . . .
Officers struggled to subdue Musso for about a minute and a half, [Reporter Adam] Sexton said, before they had to use a stun gun on him.
Many involved in the counter protest thought Musso did nothing wrong.
The MAIG bus tour continues. With the Internet allowing instant access to the tour dates and places, Musso’s arrest could presage more of the same. Or something even more . . . newsworthy. Watch this space.
If you touch a cop, you’re gonna have a baaaaaad time.
Government employees should also be barred from touching citizens.
I agree. Where cops are concerned, NEVER initiate physical contact.
N.E.V.E.R.
It doesn’t matter. There have been countless stories of officers initiating contact and beating people who put up no fight, then charging them with “resisting arrest” and “assaulting an officer”. It’s just another thing the cowardly scum get to use to ruin innocent people’s lives.
Technically, I don’t think an officer has the power to actually charge a person with anything, that is up to the prosecutor. That is why if ever arrested exercise your right to remain silent.
If I asked a cop to arrest someone for tapping me on the shoulder, the cop would laugh it down, even if he saw it. Since that is the standard for un-costumed citizens, it should be the standard for costumed political rent boys.
That depends I suppose. I was talking with one of our local PD officers while he was on duty outside the gas station and when we were done talking I gave him a light slap/pat on his shoulder telling him to have a great day. Nothing came of it, and I didn’t even think anything of it until afterwards because the cop and I are friendly towards one another, especially with how small this town is. I suppose it all depends on if you are having a positive conversation or negative conversation with an officer.
Nice going, you idiot. Now they’ll have even more fuel for their fire. “See? These gun nuts are out of control! WE NEED TO STOP THEM BEFORE THEY COME FOR US!”
Or at the very least, it will give them more publicity. At any rate, if all he previously did was interrupt the speaker, why were the cops even talking to him? If this all went down on public property, I don’t see that the speaker has any right not be heckled.
This.
This became the top story on their local news because the guy was subdued and arrested. Otherwise, there would’ve been 20 people there, names would’ve been read, and they would go home. MAIG is counting on pro-2A people to show up in order to increase the exposure and get some publicity. This clown handed this to them on a silver platter. Don’t be surprised if this gets picked up by the national media under the premise of “Gun Guy Heckles Man Who Lost Daughter to Gun Violence”. Paging PMSNBC.
I heartily salute Mr. Musso for his First Amendment exercise. We need people with balls in this fight. I certainly would advise him to touch nobody though. People are such whiny pu$$ies these days, including those 3 jack-booted thugs.
Calm down. He did nothing wrong, and yet you want a piece of him. For WHAT? Exercising freedom of speech? What’s wrong with you?
William Burke, I agree with your point but we really need to be better than this and smarter. For all we know the whole point of these rallies could be to bait the radicals among us more than to spread “gun violence” awareness.
Apparently you need a pocket recorder for not only open carry but expressing your opinion too
Sadly, this is not entirely unexpected. I hope he had more buddies there with video cameras, catching it all on film…
There were many there filming it. I’m sure the tv station has the full unedited cut too.
Yup and it will put him in jail. Assault is any sort of unprivileged physical contact against another person. AKA, touching someone with their expressed or implied consent. Certainly the officer did not consent to the touching.
That being said, the law is enforced unfairly, depending on the’victim’ and ‘perp.’ Progressives love leaving everything in the hand of the DA, and no the letter of the law.
Clearly the contact was not intend to inflict any pain or harm on the officer. Can you imagine what the police report would have said if there were not cameras on the scene to keep the officers honest. “Crazed, NRA Representative attempts to Strangle Concords Finest!”
I don’t believe that intent to do harm is a requirement for a simple assault charge in some jurisdictions, but there are lawyers on here who know about this stuff. Anybody?
I think I read somewhere that self defense is limited to a proportional response.
If you slap me, I cannot shoot you.
The cop had every right to gently remove the mans hand form his shoulder.
It’s actually pretty easy to understand who is in the wrong.
Just imagine the police were not wearing government costumes and instead where dressed as a motorcycle gang.
Thank you. Don’t let the hotheads rule the day!
Just pointing a finger at an officer is considered assault depending on your tone of voice and the look on your face. Sad yet true.
In general, any touching is an arrest. There is a video I saw once where a women was arrested for assault by simply blowing a soap bubble at an officer and the bubble popped in his face. The argument was the soap was an assault.
However, the police can beat you, stun you, shoot your dog and as seen recently, even shoot the cats and they are good to go and there is no ND that will not be covered up.
They have a job to do, I just believe sometimes they are given too much latitude.
Assault is communicative (verbal, gestures) and battery is physical.
Close, but not quite. An assault is an attempt to commit a battery. So raising your hand to strike is an assault.
Didn’t we all learn in Kindergarten not to touch? Putting two hands on a LEO’s shoulder is cruising for a bruising . Did cops over react? Absolutely, a simple “Sir, take your hands off me” would have been sufficient or simply taking a step back. Never give the police an excuse to put their hands on you.
Charges include Thought Crime and Questioning His Betters.
The question is “Whose side was he really on?”
/me shines up the tin foil hat
You gently placed your hand on me, THAT’S ASSAULT.
Me and a few of my big friends slam you to the ground, that’s justice…
And who is it that gets charged with a crime?
This is what happens when irrational laws are enacted and enforced.
He’s lucky he lived. They held back. The response they used is the one that’s actually meant for people who accidentally brush past the officer in line at Dunkin’ Donuts. The specified reaction for purposeful touching, like this guy did, is actually lethal force.
It’s dangerous to be right when the government is wrong.
So, since when is heckling a public speaker in a public forum a crime? And why did they stop him after he walked away?
They were called off their doughnut break; THAT ALONE warrants an arrest, buddy!
And one more that will never pass another NICS check to purchase a gun. Fight with your brains, not your balls.
Thats why we have private sales, to avoid the NICS check.
So we should just remain obedient? Take no action? By “brains” do you mean sitting back and doing nothing? If so continue the great work.
It means using peaceful means of opposition. Speak out, contact elected reps, take legal action, and above all else vote against people who do not uphold the constitution. At this point, such action is still productive (at least at the national level) whereas isolated individuals losing their cool and getting violent is counterproductive. [Note: Not that this guy seemed violent, but he did give the cops the excuse to treat him as if he was.]
No, I think he means be smart rather than do nothing. This guy obviously messed up his interaction with the police. If he’d played it straight, asking if he was being detained, and if so, for what reason – or if not being detained, kept waking – he would have probably been fine.
If he’d continued heckling the speaker he would have been better off. And he may have ended up with a wrongful arrest case to pursue against Concord PD.
But no, he has to argue and touch the police. Stupid.
He made a serious mistake. He thought the nice officer was his friend. I’m sure that’s why he touched the officer. I suppose that’s what we call “stupid”, but CRIMINAL? No, no, no.
Great projection on your part Lars. And if he’s unable to legally buy a firearm after this fracas buying one from a private party makes it what? A felony? And I’ve been in this fight since 68.
He was actually gesturing to have the cop turn around and look at the camera. It was the cops who escalated the situation.
”Why are you shaking talking about this? You’re not the truth!”
Sounds a bit like the dude has Alzheimer’s, though he looks a bit young for that. Still, being incoherent shouldn’t be a crime.
What are you talking about? It’s a bit mannered, but it makes perfect sense. Oh. I guess I have Alzheimer’s because I understand it.
BULL.
Ok, maybe I was a bit harsh. It’s comprehensible from context, but style matters in political debates. Especially when the MSM is doing all it can to reinforce the stereotype of the uneducated, knuckle-dragging gun nut.
Shouldn’t ever put your hands on a police officer. Ever, ever, ever. He’s at a rally representing gun owners. Nothing wrong with speaking his mind, but he should have been completely in control.
Any of you readers still think the government employees are going to be your ally if the SHTF better think a little harder. Might be three “Oath Keepers” there in uniform. What a crock of crap.
not guilty. at least in my community. up in the slave states? probably gonna go to jail. and the police wonder why they are past the point of being a hated special class of civilian.
They have a guy that seems to call the cops on anyone from our side that shows up. In CT the same bald guy called the cops on a friend of mine who was guilty of nothing more than conspicuous open carry (completely legal in CT) and refusing to respond to the taunts of the MAIG folks.
The cops showed up and told him “You’re not doing anything wrong, if they give you any trouble give us a call.”
The longer he stayed polite, the angrier the MAIGs got. I think there’s a lesson there for how to deal with them. The longer we are reasonable, the more they lose their shit — ON CAMERA.
+1. Though we will have to publicize that ugliness ourselves because the MSM surely won’t.
Open carry in CT? When did this happen?
@Red Sox, OC is legal in CT. Check this:
http://www.ammoland.com/2013/05/connecticut-state-police-finally-admit-open-carry-is-lawful/#axzz2WgVRLkSu
Hmmm, thank you Ralph.
The bald guy is a rep from MSA security, they are handling the security for the magical mystery tour. I was there, my son posted another video from a different angle on youtube, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aidj0h9jIE0
As far as I could see the guy did nothing wrong. The arrest was decided when the MSA guy had the police called, that wasn’t going to change see :51 into this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aidj0h9jIE0 . If they post more videos you’ll notice that there is a circle of Bloomberg supporters about 2 deep, maybe thirty people total, everyone else is pro2A.
I’ll give the Police Chief points for responding to my email (likely NSA saved it).
Free Speech?? I do not condone interrupting others speeches. However, I’ve seen plenty of Liberal hecklers in my time and none of them were tazered, arrested, and charged with assault. I guess free speech is only free depending on the view point.
The 1st is about POLITICAL speach. Damn sure includes hecking of idiots pushing a POLITICAL agenda.
The 1st is NOT performance art, wierd books, NPR agitprop.
It’s only free to those who can afford it, seems like.
It was very stupid to touch the cop, but jeez, look at the video and use some “common-sense” and be “reasonable”. That was in no way an assault. Any person could touch any acquaintance or stranger that way and no one would interpret that as hostile in any way. It looked like he was trying to disclose to the cop he was being filmed.
Police officers do not like anyone who challenges their authority PERIOD. There are a lot of good LEO’s out there, but I don’t care if they are asking you to jump in hot lava if you challenge what they say your likly to be taken down regardless of how nice a guy said officer looks to be.
Thankfully last time I checked simple assault is not a felony so no one is losing their rights over this; it was stupid to confront the officers though.
I can’t wait until MAIG comes here to Illinois; the problem is I have a feeling it will be in Chicago and they will use the CPD as a shield around these guys and arrest anyone who “gets out of line”(speaks, moves, holds up a sign) on the pro gun side.
” it was stupid to confront the officers though. ”
HE DIDN’T. According to the story above (feel free to actually READ it), he was walking away after the cops showed up.
THEY confronted HIM. Can you get it straight from here on?
Then he was being dumb for interacting with them beyond asking “Am I being detained?”. From there, it’s a two-step flowchart:
“Yes” -> “For what?”
“No” -> “Have a nice day, officer.” Walk away.
Just touching the cop without consent is technically assault, so he’s pretty much boned.
There are a lot of good LEO’s out there
There are good LEOs here (Accur81 for example), but “out there” there are damn few.
Thanks, Ralph – these stories depress me. Hopefully a good lawyer can turn things around.
Where is this video that shows the beginning of the incident? I haven’t seen anything but the one where he’s already halfway to the ground, which is actually after he’s been tased.
Thou shalt not lay unclean hands upon sanctified enforcers.
Umm, he touched a god. He’s lucky he lived through the ordeal.
Musso’s big f ‘up was stepping up to the podium and placing his hand on the speaker’s shoulder as he initiated the debate (watch the videos that are out there). Had he not initiated that physical contact, it is likely the police either would not have been called at all, or if they had been called they would have come to simply separate the camps. Given that contact, the police came in to arrest Musso and expected physical resistance. Watch the videos to see if they got what they expected.
Not defending the cops, but Musso really did us no favors with his little simple assault stunt.
– bsd
New Hampshire simple assault
http://www.nhcriminallawyer.com/areas-of-practice/assault
“Simple Assault
Simple Assault is a misdemeanor. Many people think that to be guilty of assault, they must hit or use force against another person. However, to be found guilty of simple assault, all that the State needs to prove is that there was some form of touching or contact, however minimal, and that the defendant did not have permission or consent to touch the other person.”
-bsd
Assuming they only held one of these MAIG events in NH yesterday, the bigger story from this event was the inclusion of one of the Boston marathon bombers in their list of gun violence “victims”.
Agreed. I am wondering when this is going to pop up on the main page. Under what definition is a terrorist now a victim of gun violence who is worthy of any of our sympathy?
– bsd
Yep, it’s even in the middle of the article linked above:
“Some of the loudest shouts came when a reader spoke the name of Tamerlan Tsarnaev, one of the Boston Marathon bombing suspects who was killed by police during a gunfight.
“He’s a terrorist,” several protesters shouted.”
Coppers haven’t heard of the 1st Amendment?
Concord Chief Police – [email protected]
Mayor Concord – [email protected]
http://www.concordnh.gov/directory.aspx
Well you all know how it works, you defy a liberal moron like this father, look in a cops general direction, or join the military, and your a terrorist threat that needs to be taken away. Perfect example.
Sad state this once great country has become. Those of you who were around back in the 50 and 60s before all the hippy liberal crap, should be proud.
I fear for future generations.
Here is a video from a bystander.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hTCTriWoIk&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Yeah, so that was clearly a stupid move, even if it was innocent of “intent to harm.” They were begging for an excuse to wrap him up, and he handed them one, giftwrapped with a big red bow on it. Colossally stupid. If he hadn’t done that, that entire interaction would likely have gone completely differently.
On an unrelated note, “YOU BUNCHA BAHSTAHDS!” is amusing as hell when shouted with a NH accent.
The truth will always ‘out,’ and there it is. What a JERK! He intruded rudely on someone else’s gathering, interrupted the speaker, committed two simple assaults, ignored the officer trying to reason with him, then passively resisted arrest while TELLING the officers that he was not going to cooperate OR let them make the by-now lawful arrest, and I also note his ‘inadvertently’ extended right middle finger during the embarrassing ballet scene.
I regret that the other officers didn’t bring a party-size can of OC to deal with the other Followers of Alinsky–yes, OUR side can act like Occupy Wall Street, and there you see it in action–shouting down the opposition, egging on a mob, acting like college-age radicals or Union thugs.
Shameful.
Yeah, what a jerk for wanting to actually do something about his rights that are being trampled on. He should just stay home and complain all day hiding behind a keyboard. How dare him protest or interrupt these outstanding people that want to repeal the second amendment. We all know the media isn’t bias, they would have given him plenty of time to address people if he would have shut up and asked politely.
He’s not a jerk for ‘wanting to actually do something about his rights.’ He is a jerk for taking the course that he did.
We all loathe the guy on the Left that interrupts conservative speakers, carries on at inappropriate times, and doesn’t let the other guy finish his thought before trying to interject his own. Why not then loathe the guy on the Right that does the same thing? You forget that it’s in our best interest to be calm, rational, and polite–there are maybe 80 million of us (and
not all of us agree with each other), and that leaves 220 million or more out there that need convincing that we’re not THIS guy.
I agree…the guy seemed to be acting like a typical New England “Tough Guy”
John AK
I though your 1st post was sarcasm. Apparently not.
Perhaps you’ll appreciate the John Boehner approach to politics. Just give them 95% of what they want and wait for a big sloppy kiss from Nancy Pelosi
No, no sarcasm intended. Just being on ‘our side’ does not make this childish boor any less a childish boor.
It is simply not possible to convince anyone, especially a grieving father, that he is on the wrong side of an argument using tactics like this. Such actions only reinforce a negative stereotype. I don’t need ‘friends’ like this making me more enemies.
Looks like a good indication of why people hate police right there. Nice work tasing someone who allegedly has a heart condition. /sarc
What difference, to paraphrase Hillary, does THAT make? I don’t see a lot of time given the officers to call for medical information and do a cardio exam on the guy before Tazing him, considering the hostile mob forming about them and getting behind them. He called the shots, he took the zap. His choice, not theirs.
/NO sarc
Did y’all see this?
http://nation.foxnews.com/2013/06/19/boston-bomber-memorialized-gun-victim-bloombergs-anti-gun-movement
The shot heard round the world…fired by a Taser this time…?
Cool heads prevail !
Rule #1 – Do NOT touch a cop.
Rule #2 – Read Rule #1 again.
question….how many anti’s showed up to this shin-dig?
Around 30 by my count, at least 5 of which came on the bus. This doesn’t include the security detail of at least 5.
thank you……of course the news will make it look like there was a sea of people out there
That guy was an idiot. He did nothing but further their agenda.
Sigh….
“With friends like these… who needs enemas…”
In my state, in my occupation, if you put your hands on me while I’m investigating you, it’s simple assault- you’re going to jail.
That said, I don’t put my hands on anyone… unless they have committed a crime.
whoops, looks like someone else got it up too.
This is a cellphone vid with the full confrontation and better sound. I think if the cops had been just one bit more violent the crowd would have jumped them. As it was, they almost did when the taser was used.
These Asshats need to be quartered and fed to the bears in Alaska. Stupid frigin’ mayor’s.
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