Did anyone really think she’d be indicted? Particularly after Bill’s tarmac tête-à-tête last week? And Hillary telegraphing that of course she’d be thrilled to retain Loretta Lynch if she’s elected? That’s clearly not how things work these days, David Petreus et al. notwithstanding. After all, she didn’t mean to!
This is, of course, bad news for guns and those who care about the civilian right to keep and bear them. If elected — and Nate Silver is optimistic — it seems a good bet that she’ll make a California-like push for new gun control legislation — at minimum, a reprise of her hubby’s “assault weapon” ban — as one of her first priorities. Never mind the generation or more of anti-gun rights rulings we can look forward to from a decidedly more left-leaning Supreme Court.
Maybe it’s time to look to the skies.
The whole thing is rigged. It’s one big carnival game and the only winners are the carnies.
If it had been Lynch who squashed it, I’d agree, but the FBI are pretty straight shooters when it comes to the law. If they did not recommend indictment, then there was nothing there to indict. Director Comey’s press conference on the matter was highly irregular. I think he wanted to express his disgust with how Clinton handled the data, but had to admit that the mishandling did not rise to the level necessary to indict.
Nothing really changes. Her supporters will comtinue to see her as innocent while her detractors will continue to see her as the pond scum she is.
Just one more example of how good the Clintons are at covering their asses.
Rather than exonerating Clinton, this casts a long shadow on the FBI and “justice system”.
The “just us” department. Different rules for the elites from the rest of us proles.
If I mishandled top secret material in my daily job, whether through negligence or ill intent, I’d be spending the rest of my life at Leavenworth. But I’m no elite…
Makes me sick. Just look at that laugh. Evil is strong in this one.
When a guy gets jail time for lettig the girl he is bagging use his laptop that has top secret files on it. Something is definitely wrong with the world when someone else completely disregards established safeguards and exposes hundreds of state secrets to the entire world and gets nothing. To make thigns right we now need to apologize to Patreaus.
Its worse than you think. There is a kid in military prison for taking sending a selfie, on a submarine with a partial radar screen in the background, to his girlfirend. I’m not saying he wasn’t an idiot, but I am saying there is a clrear reason why the espionage statutes DO NOT REQUIRE INTENT to prosecute offenders.
There was also a case a couple years back of a young kid in USMC signals intelligence who accidentally sent an email marked Secret to his yahoo account instead of his usmc.mil account. He admitted this mistake to his superiors immediately and did everything he could to help clean up the mistake.
He was bounced out the Corps and had his life ruined over that incident.
The Clinton machine plows forward, destroying and corrupting everything in its wake
Fuck.
^ This! It is not even conceivable. Having signed the SF-312 many times, her actions are criminal, end conversation. Having served my country in the military for 12.5 years and still serving as a contractor, I am disgusted. All faith lost.
She can’t pass an FBI background check (for Top Secret security clearance) for sure now! How on earth can she be cleared to hold office of the President!
*extreme carelessness IS gross negligence
She need to resign her bid for nomination
POTUS requires no security clearance because the whole clearance system was set up by EO.
POTUS can see anything they want at any time for any reason. Because the system was created by an EO, the POTUS is effectively “above” the system.
The framers would be throwing tea and passing rifles around at this point.
That’s about the only thing that would change the course on which we currently find ourselves.
Does drinking a beer and stocking up on ammo count?
Wait, I thought that was everyday standard operating procedure?
The framers would be throwing tea and passing rifles around at this point. Just sayin.
Never got my hopes up. So much for comeys’ awesome integrity. I am so let down by our political system. Broken beyond repair. Prepare for Hellary folks, because she is coming……..
“This is, of course, bad news for guns and those who care about the civilian right to keep and bear them.”
It’s bad news for the entire country.
More and more people are getting more and more fed up with the .gov. As I told someone this morning in response to this news, “this will further erode faith/trust in .gov.”
Yep, Michael, your comment confirms that.
Notice how the quote refers to “no charges appropriate” not “there’s not enough evidence to support charging her.” They think no one with an active neuron is watching this stuff.
Who cares if it is “appropriate” or not. That’s just SJW Speak for “Nyah, we don’t wanna be a grown-up today.”
You mean Comey’s Integrity wasn’t broken over the encryption debate? Now I’m *really* sad…
Does anyone really believe, any more, that if every single vote cast in Nov was for Trump, we would not end up with Hillary as the winner?
A very real concern that seems to be entering more and more peoples’ minds with each passing day.
“Political Theater” indeed.
I’m right there with you. America has sold its soul – we have thrown our Nation of Laws to the winds. We have charted a course that leads either to banana-republic, or police-state dictatorship. We are now well under way.
What i heard him say was:
” My pension is more important than Justice.”
Pension? Life, Mr Vince Foster
FBI director suffered a massive heart attack this morning. At his family’s request the body was cremated 20 minutes later, the ashes were scattered at sea. His family has left the country on an extended vacation.
In other news, this cat video has the internet speechless!
Yup. I could actually see a news bobble head say all that with a smile.
Exactly what I thought. Has that hacker that pulled her emails off the server ended up shooting himself in the back of the head twice yet?
Congrats to all the anarchists in this country because as far as I’m concerned there is no law of the land! Speed, steal, rape, plunder, and pillage because there is no law!
Exactly what I thought. Has that hacker that pulled her emails off the server ended up shooting himself in the back of the head twice with a bolt action rifle yet? – fixed it.
Anarchists would be far better. At least they mostly mind their own business.
Did anyone really expect anything different to happen? Really? We all knew the fix was in, she stated confidently that she wouldn’t be charged – she knew.
In the end the FBI director was faced with a choice – let her latest in a long string of misdeeds slide yet again, or have the crisis of having a Presidential nominee under indictment. He chose the former.
“Did anyone really expect anything different to happen? Really?”
Yes actually. Call me a gullible schmuck.
Remember this date, July 5, 2016.
The day America died…
There is literally no way this woman is not the next President of the United States. 8 years of Hillary. Liberal Supreme Court. Open borders with millions of new Democrat voters. Buh bye the America I once knew.
Hopefully, somebody reminds her of the state motto of Virginia.
Connecticut’s state motto is the Constitution State. And they completely pissed all over that! Why would Virginia’s be any different.
When Obama endorsed her, that was the ultimate foreshadowing of what was going to happen. He’s not going to endorse unless he has been guaranteed that she is going to walk.
One of the many problems with the FBI case is that Obama sent her things on that server. He was aware is was a private server. Guess what would happen if they pursued Hillary?
FBI did the best it could, Comey delivered his most scathing rebuke, without actually calling a crook, a crook.
You took the words right out of my mouth. Yes, I did trust my government to do the right thing …
July 5, 2016: Hilary’s Coronation Day. The election will be a sham. No matter how many votes Trump gets, Hilary will be the new Queen.
I am super cynical about the government, but I drank the kool-aid that maybe some principled people worked at the FBI. Comey didn’t even feel compelled to resign. I am struggling to find anything remotely American left in our institutions. If U.S. government has abandoned the rule of law then obviously something outside of the government must restore it. That’s where we are. Things are going to get very interesting.
There are the elites and the rest of us. Every day there are more dots to connect and the picture gets uglier. I wonder if we will know the enormity of what’s behind the scenes before it’s too late? It’s almost like you can see the US dying slowly over the next century or two while not knowing what to do to stop it. Everything special about the US is being systematically corrupted at its core.
On reflection, Comey was right – no prosecutor would take this case to trial. I mean, not due to lack of evidence, but because they don’t want to be ostracized or worse. Per Game of Thrones, “when you play the Game of Thrones you win or you die”. Well, even a successful prosecution – rather unlikely in front of an Obama-appointed judge – might just result in a pardon, so why put your neck out there? There’s just no upside. So I guess Comey did what he could and gave Trump a bunch of soundbites to use against her.
^ This!!! So . much . this!
FBI Director Comey knew beyond a shadow of a doubt that Loretta Lynch’s Justice Department would never prosecute Hillary … and even if they did, Obama would pardon her before the ink was dry on the court records of her conviction.
What he did was actually quite clever. He said in plain words that Hillary broke the law, did something that even an average person would know was incredibly irresponsible, and likely exposed her e-mail server to hackers while in foreign nations. Those three statements are incredibly damning. And the frosting on the cake: he did it without any advanced notice and without any opportunity for the Justice Department or the White House to censor the press release.
I am confident that Loretta Lynch will fire Comey or otherwise relegate him to irrelevance — something like reassigning him to monitor illegal ivory trafficking on the North Slope of Alaska — in the next few days.
IF the FBI Director was being “clever”. IF the FBI Director was attempting an end-run around the politicians controlling DOJ. IF the AG subsequently fires or otherwise sidelines the Director, then the Director was not clever enough, and underestimated the degenerate character of the Clintons.
I suspect that what actually happened is that Lynch realized (or planned) that she would not be accused of Clinton favoritism, especially after the airplane visit, if she was not the one to announce the preordained decision. In fact, none of the political and leftist leadership in the DOJ would be stained by the report if the FBI Director (whom the Clinton press machine heralded as the one true Boy Scout in the pile) made the non-announcement.
The question is what was important enough for Comey, that he put his face on the dance?
We learned a few things today. America is not or at least no longer exceptional as our institutions are just as corrupt as any others in the world. Also State employees will always side with the State. Flowery oaths mean nothing when the chips are down.
As rule of law continues to degrade, conflict between ordinary citizens and State agents representing tyranny is going to be increasingly frequent and inevitable. If you see agents harassing your neighbors we can no longer assume they are acting in the best interests of citizens. We should feel no moral obligation to help the agents. If state agents fall while oppressing our fellow citizens we shouldn’t mourn them. They don’t represent us. We need to start caring for the real Americans and socially shun the thugs hurting people for privilege and a paycheck.
Some of us were already there over a couple of decades ago. Welcome to the light. Prepare yourself for endless frustration as you watch everyday life through clearer eyes. Read the Allegory of the Cave. It is your new reality.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegory_of_the_Cave
The television casts the shadows on the wall.
Yes, I expeced the FBI to man up and charge her. I don’t know how they failed, if it was coruption, incompetance, or collusion, or inappropriate influence, but yes I expected her to be indicted as that is what should have been done based on the law and how it has been applied to many people.
Wow, gee, how shocking….
The Union has failed. The feds are chirpy l corrupt to the core.
Secession. It’s time.
No Secession is not the answer. But this is!
“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.–That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, –That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government..”
Whenever you are ready to pick up your rifle and enforce that – that would be great. Lesson learned on cultural destruction due to immigrants and the importation of freedom hating individuals, the control of the media by freedom hating leftist communists/marxists, etc. Besides, they don’t want a new government. Freedom loving people from their region would be called “domestic terrorists” for any resistance they employed. Better to separate ourselves from them, than to continue our downward spiral of principles converging into theirs.
Texit. Oklaexit. Arkanexit. Kanexit. Montanexit. Etc etc.
ALABEXIT!
As I have stated previously, and will continue to repeat until they shut down the Internet:
Those States that support these politicians and elect them over and over to positions of power while they trample on the Constitution are the States that have ALREADY seceded. The States that oppose such people and actions are not secessionists and need not consider secession. they need to consider how to consolidate themselves into a defensible bastion of Constitutionality while divorcing themselves from the Statists and Fascists and Socialists.
Accepting Statehood and accepting elected federal office requires an oath to uphold and defend The Constitution of the United States of America. To take that oath and then refuse to accept those terms is a violation of the contract. That makes the contract null and void. Those of us who took the oath and abide by our pledge are NOT the bad guys.
This is not advocating secession, it is demanding a divorce.
It just doesn’t matter. It just doesn’t matter! – Tripper
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9mf3Bypyk8
Come on, brave soldiers! You’re always talking about your oaths to defend the US from enemies foreign and domestic! Here’s your chance to act on it – arrest her and everyone else in the government involved in the cover up. I’m sure our Constitution-loving, honorable, brave soldiers will have her in custody by the end of the day!
Troll
Your drivel has noting to do with current affairs and such a Constitutional crisis is not yet at hand. Hellery is not even POTUS (or yet/spare us).
It’s not trolling to point out soldiers lie about giving a damn about their oath and are just mindless drones who do what their masters in DC tell them to. But when that facts aren’t on your side, I’m not surprised that you have nothing but insults.
Mindless drones? It would appear that you have absolutely no idea what being a patriot in the U.S. military is all about.
The oath we took when we volunteered was to protect and serve the Constitution and to obey the LAWFUL orders of our superiors. It should seem obvious that an order to violate the Constitution goes directly against that oath on both counts.
If military and former military to not move directly to revolt it is because we have not yet exhausted the Constitutional methods of redress. At the least there still remains the (remote) possibility of an Article V convention to address the tyranny the Progressives and Liberals have introduced into the system.
On this the day after our celebration of Independence I leave you with this excerpt from that document:
“…Prudence, indeed, will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security.”
I’m not getting into the weeds with you guys, but I will say, Hillary is the next President and she will do whatever she wants for the next 8 years. And the military won’t do a dam thing, no matter how unconstitutional her duties.
Serious question here: Precisely what do you expect the military should have done? Without formal authority, the military cannot move. Well, it could, but that would be called a coup, as there is no standing procedure for the military to arrest a civilian.
Well, that is about par for the course ladies and gentleman. God help us all as once again man has failed us.
Makes one wonder what could be done. When clear lawlessness goes unpunished for the powerfully connected, the common man loses faith in the integrity of his government. One set of rules for me and another for thee. Makes me sick. The corruption goes to the highest levels and trickles down from there. Powerful Elitists putting themselves above the laws govern the common man puts the common man in a situation where there is no legal redress against those above him who endeavor to enslave him with their corrupt practices.
“Bread and circuses” (or bread and games; from Latin: panem et circenses) is metonymic for a superficial means of appeasement. In the case of politics, the phrase is used to describe the generation of public approval, not through exemplary or excellent public service or public policy, but through diversion; distraction; or the mere satisfaction of the immediate, shallow requirements of a populace,[1] as an offered “palliative”.
Progressives have made a specific effort for over 75 years to create as many people as possible who are dependent on the government for their income or other necessities. Burgeoning government employment, a huge welfare class, 48% of the people below the wage where they need to pay any income taxes, the list of bought and paid for Democrat voters is legion. Now they are actively importing aliens and working to get them accepted and further dependent on the government by convincing them that the Republicans will immediately round them up and send them back home, or at a minimum force them to work for a living.
Until the productive people of this country refuse to pay for these programs that support unproductive citizens (or non-citizens) there does not seem to be a remedy for this downward spiral other than allowing it to go on until there are not enough productive people left at which time the Democrat Progressive Liberals will be so entrenched in power that they will live high off the hog while the peasants barely survive.
If you have not already, read Atlas Shrugged. Sure there’s some off-the-wall Libertarian philosophy in it, but the politics is spot-on. From Arizona across to Georgia, the conservative South shall rise at some point and throw off these anti-Constitutional tyrants. From this point it is only a question of when, not if.
I have read it several times. it’s an enlightening read. I’d be more than happy to quit paying my taxes until the bread and circus is over. I hate that some 30+ percent of my income is scraped off and directly given to a federal government I have no faith in. I would opt smooth out of social security if possible. I know how to invest my money far better than the government. and being 29 years old, I fully expect to see exactly none of that social security money back. When the gravy train of free shit is over, I will suffer along with everyone else. I who have worked an honest career all my life and have been extorted of my income for all those years will eventually end up in exactly the same boat as those who did jack shit but leech off the government tit. It pisses me off on a daily basis.
This just goes to prove that there are rules for us and there are rules for them (but only if it hurts a political opponent). Patreaus was convicted for pillow talk, not emailing state secrets. What was it that people were yelling about a few months ago? No Justice, No Peace? Second Amendment Army, anyone?
I had some faith in Comey. I’d like to see a report, but that won’t be forthcoming any time soon. Let’s see if anyone in the FBI speaks out.
If you DO see a report, how much faith do you actually have that it will be the whole truth, or even ANY truth?
Wikileaks exposes more corruption evidence than the actual investigators. It really makes one wonder…
Yes, a leak would be what we would need, especially in the short term. Though, if I were in a position to leak such info, I’d fear for my life.
This is why our most productive leakers live in jail or overseas (Assange and Snowden).
I’m hoping one or two of the investigators are of retirement age so they can retire and blow the whistle.
Um, risk their pensions?? Not gonna happen.
The downside is that Hillary skates.
The upside is that we have a presumptive GOP nominee will beat her senseless with this, unlike the limp-wristed milquetoast establishment clowns who love to hold investigations with no actual results.
As an aside, there’s far too many examples of people mishandling classified info, far too many of us US citizens who have held security clearances (I had a DOD & a NATO clearance, straight out of school) and know the rules to believe that Hillary was innocent. She just happened to have the DOJ and FBI in her corner, because our government is being run by a man of the third world. The only people who actually believe she’s innocent are the Pajama Boys of this country, who have never done anything of consequence for national defense.
Very true, as a candidate, this severely weakens her.
Being tagged ‘extremely careless’ is raw meat for proof of unqualified for office.
But it likely won’t matter…
So you think that Democrats will “see through this” error in judgement and not vote for Hillary? Really?! Good luck with that.
Hillary is the new Queen, as of today. The same people that pulled the right strings for today’s outcome also pull the vote counting string. This is all Clinton Cash raining down on the decision makers, primarily Obama and Lynch. He will have a hundred million Clinton Foundation dollars waiting for him the day he leaves office.
No, it wont change any Democrat’s mind. Liberals vote Democrat, that is just the truth of it. They don’t care about truth, they don’t care about anything, they vote D no matter what. BUT! There are a lot more non-liberals than liberals in the USA today and they are increasingly unhappy and untrusting of the powers that be. With someone as aggressive as Trump running against her, not some mealy mouthed Romney type, it gives hope that anyone who isn’t already indoctrinated to the left, will vote #AnyonebutHillary
Of course not. The hard-core Democratic voters votes have been bought and paid for – much like the black voters’ votes. There’s a reason why 90% of the black vote in the US pulls the donkey lever come election time – they’ve been bought and paid for, rather cheaply I might add.
There are, however, enough undecided and independent voters in the polls who are up for grabs. Each party has a base of about 40 to 43% of the electorate. The election is won by moving the independents’ votes in swing states.
DG: Do you think the votes will be accurately tallied?
I have no faith in the vote counters.
I have faith in the vote counters. They are Diebold machines. Diebold is a huge contributor to the RNC. Trumps gonna win.
Sure, I bitch online.
But when I’m done doing that, I send money to Ted Cruz’ campaign. Rand Paul. The FPC, Calguns, and the NRA. And as of 2 months ago, to Donald Trump’s campaign.
Of course I celebrate gun control speeches and laws with purchases of guns and ammo. But we need to, as gun owners, start putting financial support to pro-2nd Amendment candidates.
And the minute a candidate turns, like Paul Ryan, I remove that support. I write them a letter letting them know exactly why I no longer support them.
Everytime the presumptive GOP nominee gets an opportunity to expose Hillary he brings all the attention upon himself and doesn’t even mention her. No traction from Benghazi report.
“The upside is that we have a presumptive GOP nominee will beat her senseless with this, unlike the limp-wristed milquetoast establishment clowns who love to hold investigations with no actual results.”
Oh, how I wish this were true. But Trump is pretty much a one-trick pony at this point. Bombastic speech and outrageous behavior can only get you so far. And the free advertising that he’s gotten for the last 18 months? Once the conventions are over and the campaigns throttle up, watch the media starting pulling their 24/7 coverage of Trump and his speeches. Sure, it will mean lower ratings for them, but they are more than willing to take that hit if it means they get their preferred candidate across the finish line in November. Trump’s been boasting that he has a tenth (90 vs 900) of the nationwide campaign staffers as Hillary does, and I believe that even if he belated tries to ramp his staff up, it will be too little too late. Note that Trump is already laying the groundwork for his excuse that “We Wuz Robbed!” when he loses in November. And know that this is not coming from a #NeverTrump perspective, this is just a conservative telling you what I’m seeing plainly.
Prepare for another 8 years of ever increasing government power and restrictions on our rights. Whether Hillary will push things over the line and trigger a backlash is the big question. The magic 8 Ball says “Yes” to the first question and “Ask again later” to the second.
Today, FBI Director Comey makes official what we all have known for sometime: The Rule of Law is well and truly dead in this country.
That’s a dangerous realization when it hits a critical mass of people.
Meanwhile, gun controllers continue apace with “you don’t need a gun, the police will protect your from the bad guys.”
A good counter to those anti’s: “What happens when the police or the government they represent ARE the bad guys?”
This is what I have been preaching to my black associates. I tell them that we have a mutual distrust of the police. They distrust the cop on the street and I distrust the cop’s leadership. I tell them that this is our common ground to fight corruption. I tell them that racism is a distraction to keep us divided and that way we can’t win.
I hope they listen, and spread that notion to THEIR black friends.
Yep, and that has ramifications for the elites.
When all us unwashed masses decide that there is no rule of law, and the law is merely what you can get away with, then things aren’t going to go too well for the elites.
The intellectual onanism that lawyers put onto paper works only because the vast majority of people respect the law. When that stops being the case, and lawyers become literal speed bumps in a parking lot, cops cease enforcing the law because judges and DA’s make decisions like the one above… well, things get very dicey for the elites, and they have to retreat behind steel gates, concertina wire, bulletproof glass, etc.
Just look at Mexico for an example of what I speak.
People like you and I don’t fare well in Mexico, though. The cartels and government officials do.
If we were in Mexico, I’d have more women, cars, guns and money than I’d know what to do with. I think I’d fare pretty well.
The problem with the US right now is that we know we didn’t use to be corrupt, that we’re becoming corrupt, and we’re in that uncomfortable middle ground in between what the US used to be, and the “El Norte” version of Mexico where we could dispose of political rivals like yesterday’s trash.
Right now, we have to pretend that there’s still law enforcement and courts.
Rule of Arbitrary Law, has never been anything more than a sales pitch to sucker suckers into accepting rule by lawyers.
As un-PC as it is to point it out on this site, the Muzzies are increasingly kicking “our”, as in progressive Western dystopias, around like rag dolls, largely on account of having a meaningful Law to be ruled by. Not simply the random “feelings” of idiots bs’ing their even idiotic’er underling about living documents.
Rule of 10 Commandments, plus perhaps the Framers’ enumerated powers of government, is likely a vast improvement on Sharia, at least unless you’re a Bedouin. But the latter is still eons ahead of rule by whatever nonsense currently constitutes “law” in this part of the world. IOW, while ISIS may suck, progressivism sucks infinitely more.
I have a feeling that what you said was really insightful…. I just wish I was smart enough to understand it.
I am not surprised. In fact I think it works out better for us. If she was charged then the dems would put someone like Joe Biden up who is more electable but still hates gun owners. If Trump is going to have any chance at winning it will be most likely against Hillary. Lastest polls shows Repubs keeping house and senate, and if it could have been done by executive order then Obama would have already done it.
Don’t get me wrong I am not happy about this but do you really think the dems would have said “Hillary is out so we aren’t running anybody.” They would have found someone equally against guns as her.
No one the Dems have to put up has the machinery behind ’em to the degree Hillary does.
I’d bet money that if Biden was the nominee and some scandal came out against him (with overwhelming proof) that the Dems would cut him loose before they’d go to THIS degree to save his candidacy.
That Clinton can even be CONSIDERED as a candidate for President at this stage is just mind boggling. That people defend her just defies all arguments that humans are ‘intelligent.’
This is the thing; I don’t blame Obama or Clinton for this, I don’t blame the government, the blame lies where it all stems from, your neighbors, people next to you in line at the grocery store, your co-workers. How these people can support HRC and this government, from the SCOTUS, POTUS, our representatives, senators, all the way down to your town school board. All of these people who have no respect for our founding principles and the rule of law. Just speak to them – all they ever have is Republicans are evil, progress is good. There is no way any intellectually honest person can support HRC for anything but a cell, but what do we get, exactly that, people support her by the boatload.
I don’t know how you can bring these people to understand what they are really doing. This person has literally committed thousands of felonies, any one of which would put you or I in a deep dark cell somewhere underground forever.
This is wrong.
The fix was indeed in.
The following text of SF-312, signed by all with a clearance upon entering a new job or position, clearly proves HRC belongs in jail.
CLASSIFIED INFORMATION NONDISCLOSURE AGREEMENT
AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN
AND THE UNITED STATES
(Name of Individual – Printed or typed)
1. Intending to be legally bound, I hereby accept the obligations contained in this Agreement in consideration of my being granted access to classified information. As used in this Agreement, classified information is marked or unmarked classified information, including oral communications, that is classified under the standards of Executive Order 13526, or under any other Executive order or statute that prohibits the unauthorized disclosure of information in the interest of national security; and unclassified information that meets the standards for classification and is in the process of a classification determination as provided in sections 1.1, 1.2, 1.3 and 1.4(e) of Executive Order 13526, or under any other Executive order or statute that requires protection for such information in the interest of national security. I understand and accept that by being granted access to classified information, special confidence and trust shall be placed in me by the United States Government.
2. I hereby acknowledge that I have received a security indoctrination concerning the nature and protection of classified information, including the procedures to be followed in ascertaining whether other persons to whom I contemplate disclosing this information have been approved for access to it, and that I understand these procedures.
3. I have been advised that the unauthorized disclosure, unauthorized retention, or negligent handling of classified information by me could cause damage or irreparable injury to the United States or could be used to advantage by a foreign nation. I hereby agree that I will never divulge classified information to anyone unless: (a) I have officially verified that the recipient has been properly authorized by the United States Government to receive it; or (b) I have been given prior written notice of authorization from the United States Government Department or Agency (hereinafter Department or Agency) responsible for the classification of information or last granting me a security clearance that such disclosure is permitted. I understand that if I am uncertain about the classification status of information, I am required to confirm from an authorized official that the information is unclassified before I may disclose it, except to a person as provided in (a) or (b), above. I further understand that I am obligated to comply with laws and regulations that prohibit the unauthorized disclosure of classified information.
4. I have been advised that any breach of this Agreement may result in the termination of any security clearances I hold; removal from any position of special confidence and trust requiring such clearances; or termination of my employment or other relationships with the Departments or Agencies that granted my security clearance or clearances. In addition, I have been advised that any unauthorized disclosure of classified information by me may constitute a violation, or violations, of United States criminal laws, including the provisions of sections 641, 793, 794, 798, *952 and 1924, title 18, United States Code; *the provisions of section 783(b}, title 50, United States Code; and the provisions of the Intelligence Identities Protection Act of 1982. I recognize that nothing in this Agreement constitutes a waiver by the United States of the right to prosecute me for any statutory violation.
5. I hereby assign to the United States Government all royalties, remunerations, and emoluments that have resulted, will result or may result from any disclosure, publication, or revelation of classified information not consistent with the terms of this Agreement.
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Yes, well, it was not “appropriate” to charge her. What are you thinking, prole? That the law as written means anything?
Silly.
Some animals are indeed more “equal” than others.
Gman, I appreciate your effort, but your effort is unfortunately meaningless.
It is never meaningless to stand up for what is right and just. This a travesty of justice and may have monumental repercussions. Next we shall hear from the actual investigators and somehow I don’t think they will agree with this decision. That said, I have lost all faith in our system of government and the rule of law. We have, as a nation, just gone over the edge of tyranny and the future is grim indeed.
That’s what I meant.
BTW, the actual investigators aren’t going to say jackshit.
Seconded.
You forgot the last paragraph.
13. All of the above is invalid if your name is Clinton.
You guys think this is bad, just wait until the election gets rigged and she becomes the next President.
This I already know. Anybody not preparing for the brave new Democrat/open borders illegal immigrant America cannot say they were not warned on July 5, 2016.
Winter is coming. The days of playing the fiddle are over.
There is now only two choices left: Prepare to live, or Prepare to die.
I see only one choice.
Prepare to defend.
Comey typifies T.S. Eliot’s hollow men: heads full of straw, whispering quietly and meaninglessly.
The history of America and the world in the 21st century will note who all had the last clear chance to avoid collapse. Comey covered his butt and passed the buck, calculating there will be more chances still and better men of sterner will, who will save us. He thinks America can survive, be righted by someone else tomorrow, while he enjoys today’s corruption and escapes history’s harshest judgement. He’s wrong, of course, as grave and gathering storms will one day reveal. What a whimper, Comey.
Mmmm, nicely put.
Who is surprised at this? General Petraus did much less. AS did NIXON. And folks(NOT named Clinton) are indicted for far less. I guess what the FBI is saying is “she’s totally inept and stupid but hey she’s not a felon folks-go ahead and vote for the hildebeast”. And Loretta-you got a job waiting for you…if THIS doesn’t light a fire under the so-called(retarded!)independents I don’t know what will. Trump for president(yuck)…and stock up.
Remember when the Fourth Estate wasn’t just the landscapers for the Second?
Petreus intentionally gave classified information to a journalist whom he was banging who was writing about him. That;s kind of critical – he gave it to somebody that he knew would publicize it or use it. He then lied to the FBI about it (18 USC 1001) then he admitted under oath he knew it was classified and intentionally gave it to Broadwell. Which, it was pretty hard to deny – apparently they had a gmail saying “Here is the sensitive info we talked about babe”.
The two cases are apples and oranges pretty much. Now, in terms of stupidity and potential risk to national security Clinton’s deal is far, far worse. And you could argue Clinton is just better at wiggling around the law (probably true). But as far as Trump’s line about “Petreus was screwed for doing far less” – no, it’s not really that simple. It sounds good to Trump supporters though .
He forgot the golden mantra:
“I don’t recall. I wasn’t there. I knew nothing about that.”
“I don’t recall. I wasn’t there. I knew nothing about that.”
“I don’t recall. I wasn’t there. I knew nothing about that.”
Watching Comey recommend no indictment necessary for Clinton was making my blood cold, but I realized that she is like Captain Jack Sparrow, every time she gets in trouble, she just says, but I’m Hillary Clinton and the sea parts for her. Two CIA whistle-blowers got charged and are serving time for retroactive classification, and Comey admits live on TV that she had just over 2000 classified emails that were born classified AT THE TIME of their sending/receiving, and yet, no indictment. hahaha, I apologize for laughing but if I don’t then I might go mad.
I am naturally a pessimist and as such, besides being insufferable at parties, I am rarely wrong about the nature of other people and especially about Hillary Clinton, I knew she would skate as she has done for her entire career, and I am not surprised, I am just really fucking pissed off.
My only concern is if Trump wins, what happens when he throws the 2nd Amendment under the bus for some petty political advantage, what will we do then, gun culture? What can we do? Sad day today.
Trump isn’t going to win. He may accrue more votes/delegates/States than Hillary, but he won’t win. The FBI had nothing t do with this decision. The same people who decided Hillary’s fate also decide elections.
Oh, Trump will be the next president. By ballot or by bullet.
Ive been saying since Trump clinched the delegate count. One way or the other, a 2nd covil war is coming to america. The only thing i did yesterday to celebrate the 4th was to read the declaration of independence. And i thought to myself, our gov is now doing the same. Doubly so after Comey’s failure to stand up for the rule of law.
Oy vey.
I don’t know anybody else, but I’m not shooting anybody to install a fat ass shifty real estate developer and TV personality as president. Absolutely, Hillary sucks, but let’s simmer down a little.
When you install someone into a position of power “by bullet”, they’re not called “president”, even if they would like to be called so themselves. The proper term is “dictator”.
Yeah – but the relevant part of his statement is:
“Only a very small number of the e-mails containing classified information bore markings indicating the presence of classified information”
In other words the emails contained information that was classified at the time. That is NOT the same as “the emails were classified”. In other words you always have a duty to protect classified information (which the bitch utterly failed at). But it is not the same as forwarding a document or pdf scan or something that is clearly marked “TOP SECRET/SCI/NO FORM”. If more of them had markings then they would have had a better case for “willful, knowingly, grossly negligent” etc.
Disagree. As a former TS/SCI clearance holder: Information in an email/message/letter/document is inherently classified according to its *content*, not its markings. The fact that text sent via the private email system was not marked (in some cases) doesn’t remove the risk to the handler of protecting the *information*. Hillary and her staff either knew or should have known by subject matter or content the nature of the material they were handling. If someone along the way stripped classification markings off, so much the worse. Presence or absence of markings in no way removes responsibility of the handler to treat classified material in the correct way. Small example: I used to take notes of meetings on legal pads. The info I wrote down was classified because of the subject matter and context. I always treated these notes as classified at the level of the info I knew they contained.
If the sexual liberated crowd thinks it’s ok to lie under oath about sex, why not lie about handling classified material?
It didn’t matter that Bill Clinton signed the assault weapons ban. He had great adulterous sex. And lied about it. People not “connected ” are still going to jail for lying under oath.
Now she has lied and I’m sure the same gun owners who voted for her husband will vote for her.
Morality means nothing. Morality is more than just about sexual conduct. And that is why California and other areas of America are losing their civil rights.
If you are rich white and connected person you can get away with anything.
Even O J Simpson went to jail. All his money did not help him. And I’m glad he went to jail.
it seems a good bet that she’ll make a California-like push for new gun control legislation — at minimum, a reprise of her hubby’s “assault weapon” ban — as one of her first priorities.
Uh, she hasn’t been elected yet.
I sometimes wish I was still as naive as you are.
So much this.
I will still vote, just for the 1-in-1 Million chance that I am greatly wrong, but I can’t help but laugh in the face of people who think the VOTE counts for ANYTHING.
Seriously, after witnessing what we just witnessed – do you REALLY think those in power would ever leave something as major as an election to the whims of the American public?!?
BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!
*runs out of breath, gasps* HAHAHA.. Ho ho ho ha haaaaa…
I predicted this outcome form the very beginning.
When I was a young lad in the mid 70’s, Our neighbor was a manager with the IRS. She told my Mother that the entire justice department was corrupt to the core then and that it was hopelessly irreparable. This nation was a goner when the (un)Civil War was lost.
We had a shot at redemption with Ron Paul but the nation rejected him. You reap what you sow.
+1. Some of us had our eyes open early.
This is my surprised face…
She did not intend for for her emails to be hacked. Good for her. She intended to keep her emails hidden from scrutiny. How is that not worth prosecuting?
Because the rule of law is dead.
http://m.townhall.com/columnists/kurtschlichter/2016/07/04/you-owe-them-nothing–not-respect-not-loyalty-not-obedience-n2186865
We owe them nothing.
One more thing. She will be president. I hope I’m wrong.
—– The Long train of abuses continues ……. until , one day , the battered spouse says – ENOUGH ….!
But hey , it’s a nice DISTRACTION from gun control actions going on in the US House.
Hey, Comey, where’s Lon Horiuchi when you really need him?
Lon’s replacement is probably ‘keeping an eye’ on his family
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIIlKKfQL60
I’m currently reading a history of colonial/Revolutionary America and how events in England lead to Puritan migration to North America. Easy to see parallel between pre English Civil War era and the US today, Obumer being our James I. Things didn’t work out well in the long run for his son Charles I who certainly created horrible times for our English ancestors. Hopefully things will not be as painful for us. Though I doubt such can be avoided. Will not be avoided if Lying Hellery is elected. I have little use for Trump but it’s a no brainer.
So… Mars? It is named after the god of war. Should we start testing rifles in a martian mud/high altitude test to see which are best for martian duty? Hopefully the green martians don’t outrange us with their radium bullets…
I despise Hillary Clinton.
I also finished in the top 10% of my law school class and served in Federal Law Enforcement for several years.
The difficulty of proving intent varies across different federal statutes. The devil is in the details – like really in the details, they most likely reviewed the headers and how specific classified documents were marked. We’ll never see those documents because they are still classified. As far as the FBI’s credibility I don’t see Jim Comey ruining their credibility for Hillary Fucking Clinton.
Trump needs to ease off the on “it’s rigged” crap. One day that might be his FBI and in the long run our society depends on functioning generally respected institutions. (which is why the media always being FOS is a problem).
No proof of intent is necessary under that statute, go back and read it.
OK – are you referring to the material above, in this thread? Otherwise please provide a specific citation and I will do that.
Mishandling of classified information is a felony regardless of intent. With intent, it’s TREASON.
… and yes, Hillary Clinton just bought out the DOJ and the FBI. We may be fast approaching a time when the 2nd amendment needs to serve its original purpose.
>> Mishandling of classified information is a felony regardless of intent. With intent, it’s TREASON.
Treason is defined in the Constitution; you should try reading it some time. If you find anything about “classified information” there, let us know.
Well, not exactly.
18 USC 793 (f) requires “gross negligence: with respect to specific kinds of classified information. Other parts of 793 reference “willfully” (i.e.: it requires intent). 18 USC 798 also requires “willfully”
The federal standard form posted above is nice, note that it says “may result in conviction” – not will. It says “may” because the government has to prove a state of mind. The federal SF is designed (obviously) to scare people.
These are complex statutes. Read them.
If they prosecuted every time somebody foolishly or stupidly handled classifiied information, then courts would be full of dumbass privates or junior NCOs in the Army who stupidly scanned that SECRET level document then sent on the NIPRNET for convenience. It happens all the time.
I’d love to see Hillary Clinton behind bars, but in this case Comey’s decision is not out of the norm.
Paying some pinhead to set up a insecure mail server at her direction is intent. Plain and simple.
The server didn’t just appear out of thin air.
If she had run her emails on a public service (eg, Yahoo or Gmail), then she could fall back on some defense that “I didn’t know it would be secured to State Department/US Government standards.”
Once she decided to set up a email server, once she was consistently handling classified emails over an ad hoc server set up at her direction, the intent was proven.
” As far as the FBI’s credibility I don’t see Jim Comey ruining their credibility for Hillary Fucking Clinton.”
What credibility? Frankly, after listing off the multiple ways in which she violated federal law (and as noted above, ‘intent’ is not required), and then saying “No Charges Appropriate”, he pretty much put a bullet in the heart of the FBI’s remaining credibility.
The only question now is whether all those “insider leaks” about ‘the FBI rank and file being pissed off about the blatant politicization of this investigation by the Obama WH and willing to leak all the dirt if she is not prosecuted’ have any truth to them.
What you are experiencing is cognitive dissonance. You like many of us thought the FBI were above the political game, but the Democrats bought and sold your heroes. The FBI had a clear and obvious choice and they choose to betray their mandate and purpose. Their credibility is shattered, but they knew that when they made the choice. Trump is merely echoing the tsunami of disgust being felt by Americans who still value the rule of law. Americans now understand that the FBI belongs on the list of compromised institutions like the IRS, VA, DoJ, etc which must be reformed. If Trump wins and is able to assume power he is going have his work cut out for him cleaning out the deep rot.
So, the FBI is now corrupt because their director reached a conclusion Donald Trump supporters didn’t like?
You hurt my political opponent, you are legit. If not, you are corrupt.
Statutes around handling classified info are complex. They really are not as simple as Mango Jesus would have you believe.
It’s shitty, I get it. President Hillary here we come.
Did you even listen to Comey’s statement? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qfvb3poU7ns
There was evidence, but they decided that “context and precedence” was more important than enforcing the law. Basically due to who she was and what it would mean no “reasonable prosecutor” would take the case. Comey flat out admitted that ANYONE else would be prosecuted in the next sentence. Selective prosecution is corruption. Just because Trump is not an complete idiot and can see a rigged system like the rest of us doesn’t make everyone disgusted with the FBI a Trump supporter.
The statement ON FBI.GOV literally says, we aren’t prosecuting HRC but if YOU do this you are screwed. To wit;
“To be clear, this is not to suggest that in similar circumstances, a person who engaged in this activity would face no consequences. To the contrary, those individuals are often subject to security or administrative sanctions. But that is not what we are deciding now.”
It’s fucking rigged.
That statement is exactly right.
Those people ARE subject to security sanctions (in other words your security clearance will get pulled) and administrative actions (in other words you could get fired). But that is different than CRIMINAL charges.
Stop equivocating. If you did this you would face criminal charges – as part of their sanctions, your firing would be trivial, and you know it.
The law is not equally applied and that is what this is all about.
The utter contempt for the rule of law is what irks me the most. It used to be that our ruling elite hid their shady and illegal behavior form us. Not so anymore.
Game. Set. Match!
We are now, officially, a Banana Republic.
When Obama was first in office, I began to notice his supporters in Congress, and many of the agency leaders, began acting as if they expected to be in office forever, and no one could stop them. After re-election, the usual suspects accelerated their disregard for any mechanism that could derail them. On the precipice of another election, it is now clear that even if Trump could get elected, the game is so rigged that there are no legal remedies that can touch the bureaucracy (or the supporting members of Congress). Government is now set to be permanent masters of the citizenry.
Going forward, we can all play-act like there is some remnant of the government for, of, by the people. But there is go recovering from this one act of cowardice. (Probably, Comey determined he could not muster enough evidence to make a trial a slam-dunk conviction. Barring that, he found no profit in the risk of fighting a losing battle; for him, and the agency)
The “last great hope” foundered, and failed.
On to the election. Let’s make it count.
Which patriot group will start the shooting?
Gonna have to pull the trigger on that one. I will take the first shot, sadly I am not a group.
(Looking to join)
I watched this live, and at one point it was enticing, hearing all this mounted against her. Then I got, and still am to some extent, physically sick when Comey said “Nope.”
The fact that they are just flying this in our face is disgusting. They have said there’s evidence of this, that and everything else. Yet for some inane reason they can’t recommend prosecution, oh wait, I forgot, their reason is, “She didn’t mean to,” because that’s a reason to not be prosecuted. I wish. I didn’t mean to speed last week but I don’t think the cop that pulled me over gave a damn of my intentions.
Political Elite has never been so apt of a status for HRC than it is now. Obama endorses her, Bill meets with Lynch, Comey lets her off the hook and nothing happens, you’d have to be a deaf and blind quadriplegic to not connect those dots.
At this point I won’t be one bit surprised if Trump loses. HRC could come around and make a press conference about how she rigged the election and they’d let her off the hook.
I want one of thoes non-prosecuteable gov email accounts like her Assholeliness has.
Sorry, fellow peasant. It’s a grand club, with superb membership benefits, and we’re not in it.
Too many powerful people tied into this. No way would they have indicted her.
Scooter Libby went to jail for the crime of disclosure of classified information by Richard Armitage. The charges against him were a result of him being targeted by a special prosecutor who know Libby committed no crime so please don’t tell me that unintended violation of the law carries no penalty.
As we have we always known, no matter if it was Holder, David Gregory or Charles Rangel who breaks the law, if you know the right people they get a pass.
The Clintons have stumped for many in power and a lot favors saved up to be called in that are useful for times like this.
The system is rigged because anyone other that Hillary would be indicted and would be measured on a different standard.
In addition, the FBI today pretty much stated, they have zero integrity. The politics trumps truth and they are another useless government organization that cannot be relied upon unless there is political gain to be had.
HOPEFULLY, this FINALLY gets people off their butts to vote. How can this not piss you off that the politicians have shown in fully view to everyone that they have a special set of rules that do not apply to you. That things will be manipulated to suite their needs.
My hope, Putin does have the hacked information and will dump it to the Internet to show that the server was hacked and some secrets have been leaked.
“HOPEFULLY, this FINALLY gets people off their butts to vote.”
It won’t, because most people have been told, all along, that this was a politically motivated investigation with no real meat there. Now the head of the FBI has just said there’s nothing worth prosecuting there. “Confirming” the MSM’s narrative. So most people think there’s nothing to see here. It won’t affect their vote.
Are those handcuffs she is wearing? If not, why not?
And all we have to do is look to Florida for republican criminals getting elected by “hardcore” republican voters who apparently don’t care what kind of vermin they put in office.
Who in the hell are talking about?
How can any of you think that this helps her campaign? Comey said no prosecutor would bring the case, but do you know who else they would not bring a case against? George Zimmerman and Darren Wilson. Does that stop the other side from crying bloody murder, and literally even inciting riots?
Do you honestly think that any of her supporters can defend this, AND the Clinton foundation investigation, AND Bubba’s rape allegations, and everything else Trump throws at them? And nevermind the illuminati vote rigging bull, this woman was 12 points ahead last month and Trump closed it to within 5 BEFORE the director of the FBI went on TV and told the world she was a staggering nincompoop.
Guys, the battle has just begun. The enemy is wounded. Pick up one of their severed limbs and start swinging it at their crotches, FFS!
There should be no surprise.
The government is arrogant, rogue and utterly lawless. After all, we have directly encouraged, enabled and facilitated their corrupt criminal behavior.
They no longer care about masking it to any great degree. This stuff has been the norm for many decades but it is only now becoming more widely apparent to people who would never have believed such chicanery and corruption existed within govt, only a handful of years ago.
And the march toward inevitable civil war or total subjugation continues, unabated.
Yup.
No one should be shocked at this outcome. And no one should be shocked when Hillary becomes president. As many have said, the fix was in. It was, still is, and always will be….
I wish there was something an average citizen could do to prevent this, legally. But there isn’t.
Comments here, on political forums, even right leaning media and other outlets trying to expose the wrongs of our increasingly liberal/progressive society are pissing in the wind at this point.
As Sun Tzu stated “The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting”. Conservatives lost the war many years ago, what we are witnessing today is the slow and sad realization of that truth.
Right on the money. Unfortunately.
So I guess we now can also use the Clinton DOJ/FBI defense.
“Sorry FBI-guys and/or DOJ-guys. I didn’t *mean* to, just like your goddess HRC. So sorry. Mea culpa and all that. I’ll be going now. Bye!”
Yeah. The shitty thing is that firearms laws are general intent crimes. I.E.: Just having the banned (whatever) is enough intent by itself, unlike laws around protecting classified information. Yet another bad thing about gun laws.
This should be a trial by jury at the very least. What a joke our legal system has become.
Kurt Schlicter has an idea.
http://m.townhall.com/columnists/kurtschlichter/2016/07/04/you-owe-them-nothing–not-respect-not-loyalty-not-obedience-n2186865
I think he’s summed it up right there. Good read.
Great article. It exactly captures my thoughts.
A Banana Republic would be embarrassed .
Laws are for the little people…..
Anyone who has ever received a security clearance knows this is pure BS. Who in the hell will ever trust the FBI again? The divisiveness in this country is off the charts, and federal employees are taking sides based on the goodies they can score from the political elite. Is there any integrity within the fed anymore? Obviously not.
Might as well get used to the idea of her as the Prez. Nothing to be done now. Devil in a blue dress?
EVEN if Trump got the vote they could still declare her as the winner. Your “vote” is a dog and pony show for the networks nothing more. It’s a lot like the WWF/WWE without Macho Man being able to tag in and save the day.
If she becomes president we will have Civil War 2.0. There is no getting around this. Democrats keep telling me how much they like Bernie (but still “nevertrump”), and then try to tell me if Trump is elected there will be another civil war, and while there might be some idiots rioting, there will not be an all-out war like there will be if Hillary wins. Democrats do not have the spine to start a real conflict if Trump wins. Trump will win in November and the Democratic Party is going to crumble into nothingness.
There will be no civil war. The few actually interested will be put down like dogs by the federal leviathan. Our country is way, way past the possibility of a big change. No way the elite let Trump win the election. He could have 80% of the vote and Hillary will still be declared the winner.
Civil war? The Just Movers aren’t about to dig in and fight. If hillary is sworn in you’ll need a permit to buy a pellet rifle.
If you have a hope in hell of preventing this we need an angry and united front. Too many NeverTrumpers and JustMovers infect our ranks to provide that.
JustMove where, exactly? There are no countries left that are going to accept OFWGs fleeing because of a neoliberal globalist matriarch imposing her will on her subjects. If we can’t vote Trump in, there will be no other recourse. As Orwell said, he that is not with me is against me. All you bickering ninnies need to stfu and vote Trump. Cut the “moral conservative” BS. No write-ins, no third parties, no libertarians, no anti-gun hipster-pandering Gary Johnson, no whacky sellout commie cuck Bernie- just Trump or Hell.
He he…who in the hell ever trusted the FBI to do the right thing? Remember J. Edgar Hoover? One advantage of being nearly 65-I clearly recall the 60’s and 70’s. Hey they still talk about the non-event of Nixon like he actually did something. Whoever is in power pulls the reins(or in the case of the spineless republitards)…buy as much guns and ammo as you can. Go into debt too…
Nate Silver is in bed with the Democratic Party and the Clintons. He didn’t think Trump would make it as far as he has, and Silver is going to be wrong in November when Trump sweeps Clinton.
Eff me, I’m surprised. I shouldn’t be, but I was. Foolish me, thinking a thousand capital felonies, 5 years of evasion, 3 of those we didn’t even know that server existed, would somehow be grounds for administering justice to a horrible human being. Shame on me. At least he picked a nice day to rub our faces in it.
Don’t forget takin’ money from foreign states through the “foundation” slush fund-actual treason…
Not without a fight.
Let’s be honest. If she was guilty and she was elected, whomever pursued her in the FBI would have their career eliminated. Better for them to keep their mouth shut in the wake of the possibility of her being elected, so they can keep their careers, their benefits, their pensions.
For what? Shooting her in da face when we’ve had enough?
I’m glad
Can i do it? Please?
Here’s the thing I find shocking.
Comey’s comments basically lay out the legal case against HRC and then he says “Oh, but just ignore all that no charges are “appropriate” in this case”. WTAF?
This is basically like a police chief saying “Well, yes, Strych9 was indeed drunk, twice the legal limit in fact. While operating his motor vehicle in an intoxicated state he did indeed jump a curb, run through a number of private yards, return to the street and strike a grandmother and her three grandchildren in a crosswalk, killing all four. These facts are not in dispute. He quite clearly acted with “extreme carelessness” during the entire event. However, charges are not appropriate in this case”.
Get ready. When the shooting starts, take it to them.
The fix was always in.
I see a Revolution coming, and not at the ballot box.
Nah. There won’t be a revolution. Americans are too sissified and indoctrinated for that.
If HRC wins then it’s “Game over man! It’s game over!”.
There might be an occasional Waco or Ruby Ridge but that will be a very small minority of people and they will be quickly swept aside. Most Americans will go along to get along. You can see that in the fact that there is, in fact, very little outrage over Manchin’s comment that “Due process is killing us”. Most people just don’t care. They’re too busy waiting for Kim Kardashian to put out her next nude selfie. (Seriously Kim, just pull a Lindsey Marshal and start a damn porn site already.)
So, item by item, there is more evidence than we knew of, of more crimes than we knew of; the candidate misrepresented every substantive fact about this issue; and “… no prosecutor would bring charges with this case.”
So, what do they have on him, that is more damaging that what he just did to himself?
1. Support Trump with everything you’ve got. I know, I know. But we have no choice.
2. If you don’t have an AR-15, then what in God’s name are you waiting for. Buy a f***ing AR-15, even if it means it sits in your safe. (Which it won’t once you shoot it the first time.)
3. Be ready not to get politically active if she does win and does put forth legislation. And i mean seriously active, calling, writing, emailing, marching.
4. Get ready for non-compliance if it comes to that.
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With Ayatollah Obama in the WH? No, I never thought for a moment she’d be charged. Liberals are the biggest bunch of lying, conniving scum in our country today. Period. So . . . remember folks, unless you want Clinton in the WH attacking your rights on a daily basis, you need to vote for Trump.
If you don’t like him you need to set that aside and vote against Clinton. And don’t bother with any third part ‘also-rans’ because they will never get elected and you will be wasting your vote in order to give Clinton one more vote ahead of Trump.
The arsenal of democracy is now your gun safe. Budget and buy accordingly.
The one bright spot out of all this is that now the FBI has lost all their credibility. If their feckless incompetence in investigating terrorism plots in the US hadn’t already convinced you of the incompetence of the FBI, this event convinces us that they’re not only incompetent, they’re also bought and paid for.
One more time: When law enforcement turns around, and they wonder where the support of the “law abiding citizens” has gone… they shouldn’t wonder.
So does this mean Snowden can get a pass on the shit he did? Or does this game only work for the rich and connected?
So I guess gross negligence without sufficient evidence of intent is perfectly A-okay!!!
Comey: RESIGN. NOW.
That is all.
Ever get that Matrix feeling? The political rich are clearly the “machines” and we are little more than a captive resource.
These are the cries of the carrots, reverend Maynard, and tomorrow is harvest day.
It is sad that so many had to see on the big stage that which some of us have observed and sounded the alarm about on smaller ones. The Republic is dead. It has been for a good while now. This is its putrification. Time for a funeral has passed. Let’s not dwell here and watch the vultures do their work. Let the dead bury the dead and the living get to living. Secession? Mass civil disobedience? A mass yawn and group amnesia? I’m genuinely curious as to what happens next.
When Hillary gets elected and the U.S.’s borders are opened to allow anybody in, where will be the best place to “hide” from the apocalypse of lawless illegal immigrants?
Funny, the FBI and DOJ (not the DOD) prosecuted a reservist just a ;year ago for storing classified data on unapproved equipment and retaining it after he went home. (in other words, he did two of the things Hillary did, but not all of them) Who was the FBI’s director last year, I think his name was Comey?
He plead guilty, and they let him go with a $7500 fine, two years of probation, and a lifetime ban on ever applying for a security clearance again. Obviously that last part was what they really wanted.
At this point, I’d be satisfied if HRC could never hold a position of public trust again.
https://www.fbi.gov/sacramento/press-releases/2015/folsom-naval-reservist-is-sentenced-after-pleading-guilty-to-unauthorized-removal-and-retention-of-classified-materials
This Administration put the fix in, If Hillery was a republican you can bet your a^^ the F***ing Democrats would have prosecuted her, the fix has been in since Bill the Blowjob specialist was in office! you can bet Loretta lynch will be the next AG she passed the buck to the next gut and he is paid off by keeping his job
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