An active shooter situation is under way in the Olympia-Einkaufszentrum shopping mall in Munich, Germany. From The Independent: “Shots have reportedly been fired at a shopping centre in German city Munich, sparking a major police operation. According to local media reports, there are a number of fatalities. This has not yet been confirmed by authorities.” More to follow.
Great. Someone going for the 1972 Olympic record?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munich_massacre
Too soon?
Too soon to tell…
:delivered in Jeselnik intonation:
1:30 PM EST – Reports of 15 fatalities…
BREAKING – 1:37 PM EST – Sky News reports of a second location, a metro station, shots fired…
I had to check — damn three active shooters
The Muslims have branched out. In 1972, I believe they were just killing Jews in Munich.
Many/some Jews have learned that not much future as a sheeple and now fight back.
Europe will have to choose between Conceal Carry Weapons or Sharia Law.
The jihadists now in Europe are becoming more sophisticated and evolving their tactics. This latest attack was apparently well planned with simultaneous hits on several locations. There appears to have been real-time coordination and the attackers have apparently used effective ex-filtration plans to disappear from the scenes of the attacks. Most police forces, even those in major cities like Munich, are not geared up to handle simultaneous attacks on multiple locations. If ever there was a case to be made for “good guys with guns” it’s being made right now.
News reports say that this Mall is close to the stadium where the Olympic athletes were killed in ’72.
It’s within walking distance of the Olympic complex. I was there last December. Nice commercial area. Near two subway stop which would facilitate quick escape from the area.
It is about 1 to 2 miles away from the 72 attack. I know the area well because my company has offices in the vicinity of which I have visited many times.
Look at the story at
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/munich-shopping-centre-attack-video-8474976
“German newspaper Bild suggests right-wing extremists are responsible”
They just throw this out there, because… I don’t know, are they hoping this is true?
And this little gem;
“The force added: “Please don’t take Fotos or Video of Police Action in order to avoid any helpful Information for the suspects.””
…to AVOID ANY HELPFUL INFORMATION.
Good gravy.
I believe it’s the 5th anniversary of that massacre in Norway, which adds some credence to the “right wing” theory.
That is standard operating procedure. Blame the right and hope to God you finally get your wish. Only to see that it was either a Muslim, Democrat, or both. They make the claim that he had “unaccented german” and yelled obscenities at foreigners. However in the video in front of McDonalds, he doesn’t say a single thing and looks more middle eastern than German.
Police have said it “looks like a terrorist attack”, so three random Germans going nutter butter at the same time is out.
During the Mombai attack the terrorists exploited social media to get real time intelligence on what the security forces are doing. Posting video to YouTube while the attack is going on is not helpful. Citizen video might be useful for forensics but not during the attack.
From CNN:
A witness who will only be identified as Lauretta told CNN her son was in a bathroom with a shooter at the McDonald’s. “That’s where he loaded his weapon,” she said. “I hear like an alarm and boom, boom, boom… And he’s still killing the children. The children were sitting to ear. They can’t run.” Lauretta said she heard the gunman say, “Allahu Akbar,” or God is great. “I know this because I’m Muslim. I hear this and I only cry.”
Frank that is contradictuary of one of the videos from the shooter were he declares to be German and to have been in a mental institution, after that he fires upon the person he was speaking to.
It’s not necessarily contradictory. He could be a German convert to Islam, or he may not be muslim at all. He may have been saying “Allahu Akbar” mockingly, if it was him saying it. It is reported as an eyewitness account on the following page, with audio account from the witness.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/22/europe/germany-munich-shooting/index.html
tdiinva (now in Wisconsin} – ah I didn’t know that. However taking images is different from taking them and posting them, but of course that instruction may also have been lost in the translation.
In the end however I think the stance should still be on citizens freedoms, until we are full on into the police state. At that point I think it would serve the state best if citizens had no phones at all, then there would be no problem here.
I just saw an interview with an eyewitness who claimed that the shooter shouted while shooting: “Scheiss Ausländer” which translates to shit imigrants. The guy who gave that interview was inside the shopping mall and ran away from the attacker.
“germanguy says: …“Scheiss Ausländer””
Well, it’s not impossible. I’m not understanding why anti invader groups would think such an attack made any sense, but who knows what such people think.
Going to see what evidence shows up to support this however. Until then, I would suspect Hadji.
Been released now that he was Iranian.
Looking quite possible the “right wing” theory fell through again.
JR_in_NC:
Yea. gee, how about that huh?
I was 9 years old, and my mom had to try to explain Muslim terrorism to me. Now I’m…well, you do the math, and I’m trying to explain Muslim terrorism to (it seems) half the country, and they don’t want to know.
Plus ca change…
More on the interwebs…”several killed at bakery “. If only they banned g…oh wait. Any wagers on the ethnicity/religion of the shooter?
Probably one of the snackbar “refugees” who got angry that people didn’t want him to rape them.
Damn, Methodists!
I’ve got a $100 on militant Asian Zoroastrianists – my bookie says it pays 1000:1!
Million to one odds on Soroists?
1:5
Amish Mafia, no doubt.
$20 says at least one of the names in “Mohamed”. $10 says all the names are “Mohamed”.
Sorry, his name is “Muhammed”. No points for you.
What are you going on about?
The Bastille Day truck driver was a “Mohamed,” so why exactly couldn’t this guy be, too?
If your comment is a joke, I’m missing it.
Couldn’t be Lutherans: they have never done this sort of thing before and everyone knows that Lutherans never change.
That’s racist! Or something.
And pretty funny.
This was OBVIOUSLY perpetrated by the Little Sisters of the Poor!
They oppose women’s “health” you know…
Nah, I bet its Brownies going for that last badge to make Girl Scout (Girl Guide)…
I was suspecting the Scientologists myself.
But these things only happen in gun-crazy America!
Yeah, I’m calling bullshit. Everyone knows that these things don’t happen in Europe.
/sarcasm
Probably another white Amish dude on Prozac…
Nah, some kid with ADD/ADHD on a Ritalin reaction or some other meth drug.
I got a mental image of an angry Amish dude in Ohio throwing his flintlock into a buggy and whipping the horse up for the east coast. Where he builds a canoe and a paddle with his barlow and heads for Europe.
I gotta get out more…..
Contnue; I love the plot so far.
I second otto’s sentiment.
As a Liberal Quaker (Quaker that drinks and has sex just for fun) I hope it wasn’t one of my flock.
Why else would you drink and have sex? If it ain’t fun, it’s work. And I’m retired. I don’t work.
There is a video of one ouf the suspects or the sole suspect where he says that he is German and was in a mental institution.
Damn. I do visit Germany here and there on a business trip, and while my country granted me a CCW permit, I must travel “naked” to Germany and risk this. All I can carry there is a swiss knife.
Czech?
No doubt incited to lash out by Trumps speech last night.
Well kind of like an ammo rush when Democrats threaten more regulations.
No, this is Bush’s fault.
If only North Carolina would allow men to shower with 10 year old girls this wouldn’t have happened.
That gave me a legit chuckle
Thats the point i carry “illegal” here for my defense and the defense off other but i wasn t there to stop this …..
If it s an islamic attack from an hardliner and they get them living i m for dead penality on open place in public view white an sword that remove his head from an female-muslima that the bestard die in knowledge of not going to paradise !!
You’re all wrong. It’s obviously the NRA’s fault. Just ask Nanny Bloomberg, Hole-in-the-head Giffords, or Dianne Frankenstein.
I thought this never happened in other countries. Obama told me so.
Let’s just hope like hell and do everything possible prevent crooked Hildabeast getting on your list.
Seriously – a progtard that comments regularly at the Denver Post blamed the NRA. He’s dead serious, too. It’s sad – these people reproduce, and vote.
If you stubborn bastiches would just turn in your EBR’s this never would have happened.
Darn those naughty Rastafarians again!!! DMD
Video of shooter/shooting:
http://vid.pr0gramm.com/2016/07/22/83bf8faab6f3c4ad.mp4
https://twitter.com/OnlineMagazin/status/756539012551176194
At least the French are getting a break this time.
Hopefully the European globalists will understand that they only have 2 choices. Deport all Muslims now, or buy industrial incinerators tomorrow.
The German people will not let this stand. Lets hope they do the humane thing.
Sadly, I think the German people will take much, much more of this, especially their women.
Having the ability to read German has allowed me to read several German blogs where this matter is discussed, and the some “progressive” German females have taken positions that effectively say that they are intellectually comfortable with being raped if the alternative is German men hazing Muslims out of their country.
ie, these women place the leftist, anti-white ideal of “multi-culturalism” above their own personal safety.
This is some of the most bizarre mental gymnastics I’ve ever seen, and when we look inside the minds of the modern leftists, we see a lot of tortured logic and self-destructive ideals.
This meta-situation won’t end well, now matter which way it tips. When there’s this much stupidity afoot, the pendulum will swing quite far, whichever way it swings.
Reading this sort of stuff has also become another indicator now on my list of reasons why giving women the power of the vote was a Really Bad Idea.
Sounds like Oktoberfest is going to be a lot of fun this year.
I am thinking that there are far more who are on the opposite side of that argument. I would not paint a broad brush given the results of recent elections in Germany and many ready to hang Angela Merkel following the Axe attack and now this.
There are always a few that are little verrückt.whereever you go.
“German females have taken positions that effectively say that they are intellectually comfortable with being raped if the alternative is German men hazing Muslims out of their country.”
That is truly mind-bending stuff. Wow.
I could never wrap my head around a lack of cognitive thought like that.
On the other hand, its a lot like the excuses a battered spouse uses…
The other side of that, though, is the German government is jailing people for speaking out against it/them (the ‘migrants’) in any way.
One couple was arrested (husband sentenced to suspended jail term and wife fined) for starting a PRIVATE Facebook group.
There have been police raids on others.
So, yeah, it does not surprise me that the blogs are all “pro self rape.” Say anything else and you are looking at a jail sentence.
Sounds like a dramatic over-correction from WWII.
The Germans have gone from being the Morlocks to being the Eloi.
By 1945, the majority of Germans willing to die for their country were all dead men. I in no way endorse the cause of nazism, but by the end of ww2, Germans were in an existential struggle for the life of their country. Most of the brave patriotic men were killed and, at least in east germany, most of the women were raped by soviet soldiers. The descendants of the survivors make up the current population of germany.
Most people think the Japanese are small people. Not true, there were a lot of six footers in Japan and they were in the Imperial Guard which pretty much died to a man.
Your supposition is nonsense. Right up until the end of the Cold War there were lots of Germans willing to fight. It is the end of the Soviet Threat that led to the pussyization of German men.
No, this is simply another example that progressive beliefs are based on self-loathing and self-hatred. That progressives have such hatred of their own culture, that the invasion by a barbarian race intent on committing complete destruction of that progressive society is welcomed by the inhabitants.
Liberal/progressives, a cult of death and cultural suicide.
It’s become apparent that Japan is likely the only country to be largely unscathed & and intact, while the rest of the West is overrun by hajis within a few generations. It seems they learned their lesson about committing national suicide.
Now…. if only they would start having sex with each other, rather than robots; and avoid giant radioactive lizards washed ashore by another tsunami…..
Bwat bwat bwat… I taught Obama said this type of gun violence doesn’t happen in other countries?
It IS different. It IS there and IS not here. All in the meaning of IS.
And not Chicago.
The 30% + for the right wings from afd is safe if fed poling comes 2017.
For France marie la pen have realistic chances to get the praesident no juke i see this very realistic
Only the German government needs guns, their track record is perfect.
I mean it’s not like Merkel worked for the Stasi or anything… Wait a minute…
I bought a phone card in that mall about a month ago…. right after I went to the BMW museum, and the apartment where the Israeli team was kidnapped.
I love visiting the Welt.
Elvis!!! I knew you were still alive!!!
This recent flurry of attacks does not bode well for an international sporting event coming up in a couple weeks, which is being held in a second world country, in stadiums packed with westerners.
Not THIS westerner, even if I had the time and disposable income.
Second world? Sorry, Brazil is – technically – a “third world” country.
Nope-by most measures Brazil is more or less “2nd world”… GDP,industry, military and whatnot. I sure don’t want to be there for the Olympics though…but they sure got some purty women.
Unfortunately a lot of the pretty women are really pretty guys – but who cares what bathroom they use
If you motorboat a pretty woman who’s actually a really pretty guy does that make you less than hetero?
There is a video out there, that shows one of/ the suspect/s he said in there that he was German and was in a mental institution.
Coming soon to a mall in the United States … most likely in a Progressive (e.g. “gun-free”) jurisdiction where the attackers have a much lower probability of facing an immediate armed response.
I lived in Mannheim for 5 years, from ’03 until ’07. There were a lot of hajis already when I first got there, but during the rest of my time their increasing numbers were definitely noticable. Even then, I figured it was only a matter of time before they attempted a multiple-shooter/bomber school or mall attack. And watching the huge influx of hajis over the last few years made that suspicion into a certainty.
What surprises me is that they haven’t tried for a repeat of Beslan or the Westgate mall attacks here…. especially considering what just one guy accomplished in Orlando, Nice, Dallas, etc. I have no doubt these things will be increasing in frequency….
I hope Germans get over their self-flagellation, and realise that if they keep punishing themselves for WW2, they’re not going to survive much longer as a sovereign, Christian state. Hell, it might be too late for them already, given the rate at which haji breeds.
Not possible. Can’t be. I’m certain that Obama keeps telling me that we are the only civilized country that has these sorts of events. This has to be a misprint….
And neither Obama nor Hillary believe in radical Islam, but they do believe we can properly screen Syrian refugees.
I hate to say this, but the more these attacks keep up, the better it is for Trump.
And neither Obama nor Hillary believe in radical Islam, but they do believe we can properly screen Syrian refugees.
and Don’t believe in God but believe in the Easter Bunny.
But… But… But……. They have such strict gun control laws how could this have possibly happened. Gun control stops all of this
Angela Merkel’s personally invited “house guests” have all the guns they want. And she’s cool with that.
The “hired help” (aka, German citizens) on the other hand…not so much.
Episcopalians are at it again.
I suspect this is not the Religion of Peaces doing but Right-Wing Germans.
It is the anniversary of the Norway Terrorist Attack after all.
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2016/07/daniel-zimmerman/breaking-munich-shopping-mall-shooting-spree/#comment-2777468
I saw those videos eariler in the day on a UK News Broadcast.
Thanks for posting them tho.
I was basing my suspicion it may be Right-wingers as eyewitnesses claimed the shooter was going on about
immigrants, citizens rights, etc….
I read a translation of the second video. Supposedly, the man is a German who hates Turks/Muslims/immigrants and blames them for his problems. Something about him being bullied and he can’t get a job because of them.
So if this is correct, it isn’t Muslim terrorists killing people in a Turkish neighborhood, rather it’s a German born white male who is trying to kill Muslims/Turks/immigrants because he thinks they are bad.
That”a right, with all those mosques and refugee centers around a shopping mall is the obvious target for neo-Nazis.
#einearmlänge not quite working out? Huh. Who’da thunk it? Might I suggest one Waffenlauf length, instead? Sometimes less is more. I’m just sayin’.
And some English lunatic reporting(FOX) “we don’t know if this is the rightwing or “middle easterners” shooting…hard to say with the extremely poor resolution of the photo of one of the killers…
Let me guess, they are saying that if the perp(s) has brown skin, he is an Islamic extremist; white skin, then he is a rightwing extremist? Um, isn’t that considered racist in today’s society. Motivation for murder is not dictated by skin color. I have seen plenty videos of Islamic extremists who are as white as the driven snow. Also, “rightwing” is a stupid term with a meaning that is relative to the political climate of a region of the world it is meant to portray. Can the world just pretent for a moment that when bad guys kill innocent people that race, religion, gender, or whatnot does not matter, for a murderer of any race, religion, creed, and gender is is still just a murderer.
Absolutely correct. Lots of fair skinned, blue eyed Bosniacs around.
Countdown to Wil Wheaton making a ‘Fuck the NRA’ tweet..
I’d rather see an “Islam is Cancer” tweet from Milo, but SJW extraordinaire Jack Dorsey saw to that.
And Twitter downgraded to “Sell” today. The downward spiral continues for yet another SJW infiltrated company.
And the same shit as the club shooting in florida the special unit / swath (GSG 9) is still not there ……….
Local MUNICH SWAT is on the scene since at least 18:00
I call shenanigans. This must be a hoax, like those workplace incidents in France. Barry Hussain said “gun violence” doesn’t happen in the more civilized EU countries, and he *never* exaggerates or lies. After all, his administration is the most transparent in the universe.
/SARC
I am laughing at the Obama “doom and gloom does not match reality” speech and then this happens. It is funny how he keeps denying and hoping that it is not reality when it is.
Look at the CNN home page right now. The juxtaposition of Obama’s photo and assertion about Trump next to the Munich story is priceless. I took a screen shot of it. It could easily have been another jihadi attack in the USA being covered.
When President Trump hits his term limit of 8 years, maybe the EU will be ready to elect him President there. I think they might need him even more than we do.
I don’t know. With Obama as head of the UN Security Council by then, Trump may want nothing to do with the Europe that exists by that time.
I fully expect Obama to be in some position at the UN in the future…
I fully expect to see Obama on death row by 2018 if Trump gets into office. There’s more than enough evidence against him.
Osman Germania on the march?
http://www.gmx.net/magazine/politik/terror/schuesse-einkaufszentrum-muenchen-taeter-31702882
6 Dead now on wrong site 🙁
We need Kansas Gun Laws here *big missing*
Remember, things like this just don’t happen in other countries, the president says so.
News directly from Germany: 1. GSG 9 and other Special Ops Police heading/are all ready in Munich
2. 2 Videos of the suspects on twitter, can’t find the links right now but circulating also in German Media outlets. One shows one suspect shooting in front of a McDonald. Here a link: http://www.bild.de/news/inland/muenchen/muenchen-schuetze-46953660.bild.html
If you count the shots you can hear that it was 18.
In the other you can see a suspect on top of presumably a parking garage. He declares that he is German and was in a mental institution.
Police just said to the German press that 8 people died and that they don’t know anything fore sure yet. They aren’t even sure if it were three people or just one. Possible one suspect dead, but they aren’t sure about that either
Dead count rises to 9, police just confirmed.
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2016/07/daniel-zimmerman/breaking-munich-shopping-mall-shooting-spree/#comment-2777468
Edit wrong text
So, now that this has happened do you think that Germany’s “Developed nation” status will be called into question?
MEANWHILE, from the dumbest Sec of State in American history
“JOHN KERRY: AIR CONDITIONERS AS BIG A THREAT AS ISIS:
Secretary of State John Kerry said in Vienna on Friday that air conditioners and refrigerators are as big of a threat to life as the threat of terrorism posed by groups like the Islamic State.
The Washington Examiner reported that Kerry was in Vienna to amend the 1987 Montreal Protocol that would phase out hydrofluorocarbons, or HFCs, from basic household and commercial appliances like air conditioners, refrigerators, and inhalers.
“As we were working together on the challenge of [ISIS] and terrorism,” Kerry said. “It’s hard for some people to grasp it, but what we–you–are doing here right now is of equal importance because it has the ability to literally save life on the planet itself.”
So Kerry is going to do without air conditioners at his offices and residences?
I see Kerry is not as swift as his boat.
Kerry’s only doubling down on the Pope’s stupidity. The Red Pope has had an issue with air conditioning for a while now, and has attacked it in official statements.
Hey, where is that BLM moron?
Is the BLM always chasing the Bundys?
“Obviously this shooting means we need more gun control here in the US because the evil NRA allowed the shooter(s) unfettered access to buy guns online without any background checks at their local gun show.”
-bath house Barry
The guy supposedly got his gun at the Indianapolis Gun Show. It is all Indiana’s fault.
This will be coming to a mall near you in a year or two as the Syrian refugees (and any other f$$%^ng family members they claim to have) are allowed into this country.
Time to tool up.
And of course all the moron Liberals, including my sister-in-law who lives in Austria, are saying that we can’t jump to conclusions and say it was a Muslim. Yeah, right. So . . . what color is the sky on the planet you live on?
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2016/07/daniel-zimmerman/breaking-munich-shopping-mall-shooting-spree/#comment-2777468
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2016/07/daniel-zimmerman/breaking-munich-shopping-mall-shooting-spree/#comment-2777908
Is that a Muslim killing people in a Muslim neighborhood?
These things don’t happen in other civilized countries.
Looks like the guy was agitated that he could not get a toy in his Happy Meal and decided to look for the Aloha Snackbar instead.
I tell ya those Lutherans are all terrorists in Catholic areas like Munich.
Okay, so he was an Iranian Lutheran. Yeah, that is the spin.
And the answer is an 18 year old Iranian who has been in Germany for a couple of years. So are shooter turned out to be an Aryan after all. /sarc
Yup.
When something like this happens in Germany, we have to be really careful about believing anything that comes from the German press, especially early on. Anything contrary to Merkel’s worldview is verboten.
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/02/02/top-german-journalist-admits-live-on-air-national-news-agenda-set-by-government/
France, of course, is no better with the recent airing of the torture cover-ups.
Sadly, our MSM here is no better, either.
The good news is “The Truth Will Find a Way” and “You can’t stop the signal.” The “media” stranglehold on the narrative is broken, and the whole Leftist empire will crash with this lack of ‘control’ over what is sold as the truth of the day.
“Everything goes somewhere . . . and I go everywhere.”
Love the Serenity reference. And a +10 to you.
There was never any doubt in my mind, really.
And as for the taped dialog that showed that the shooter was anti-immigrant, no, those were native Germans who were observing the shooter from a distance.
But the politically correct bootlickers keep holding out hope that these incidents will stop, and that somehow Muslims will become like Methodists, only with a lump in the middle of their foreheads.
Sorry, that ain’t gonna happen. If we look at the pace of these attacks, they’re increasing – rapidly.
And Hillary wants to relocate another 700,000 Syrian refugees here. At taxpayer expense, naturally.
The chaos eventually happened.
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