Ralph Northam closeup
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By CCRKBA

The Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms today said Virginia state lawmakers who threaten to withhold state funds from “Second Amendment Sanctuary” counties that refuse to enforce gun control laws that pass in Richmond are “practicing world-class hypocrisy.”

“After weeks of rhetoric about alleged ‘quid pro quo’ efforts by President Donald Trump to force the Ukraine government to investigate a political rival or risk losing U.S. aid, it is dumbfounding that a Virginia lawmaker would suggest essentially the same thing,” said CCRKBA Chairman Alan Gottlieb. “The hypocrisy is stunning.”

Nancy Pelosi, Don McEachin
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi of Calif., left, poses during a ceremonial swearing-in with Rep. Don McEachin, D-Va., right, on Capitol Hill in Washington, Thursday, Jan. 3, 2019, during the opening session of the 116th Congress. (AP Photo/Susan Walsh)

The Washington Examiner reported that Democratic Virginia Rep. Donald McEachin “suggested cutting off state funds to counties that do not comply with any gun control measures that pass in Richmond.”

“Anti-gun Democrats can call that anything they want,” Gottlieb observed, “but it equates to the kind of political blackmail their Capitol Hill colleagues have accused Trump of committing. Apparently, strong-arm coercion is okay so long as it’s a Democrat who’s doing it.”

Seventy-eight Virginia counties have reportedly adopted “Second Amendment Sanctuary” resolutions, infuriating incoming Democrats who are threatening to pass all kinds of restrictive gun control measures in 2020.

Virginia we will not comply
Courtesy Jeff Hulbert

“These anti-rights extremists aren’t even trying to disguise their intentions anymore,” Gottlieb stated. “What was once the party of gun control has become the party of gun confiscation and social bigotry. Where they were once apprehensive about gun control, now they are arrogant. They despise gun owners and they’re determined to reduce a constitutional right to a heavily-regulated privilege. They will punish anyone who stands in their way.”

Democrats will consider bans on so-called “assault weapons” and original capacity magazines, revive the failed one-gun-a-month restriction, expand background checks, and institute other gun control schemes. They won the legislature with help from a $2.5 million expenditure by Michael Bloomberg’s Everytown for Gun Safety Action Fund.

“The saddest part of this,” Gottlieb concluded, “is that nobody should really be surprised. When anti-rights extremism replaces sensible governing, diplomacy gives way to demagoguery and nobody benefits.”

 

With more than 650,000 members and supporters nationwide, the Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms (www.ccrkba.org) is one of the nation’s premier gun rights organizations. As a non-profit organization, the Citizens Committee is dedicated to preserving firearms freedoms through active lobbying of elected officials and facilitating grass-roots organization of gun rights activists in local communities throughout the United States.

87 COMMENTS

  1. Can you expect anything less from liberals and democrats. Before you vote next time remember that the democrats are the party of gun control and confiscation.

    • We need to correctly label these types, they are not Democrats and not liberals, they are straight up SOCIALISTS .

      • True, they aren’t really Democrats. But anyone who votes for a Democrat is supporting these tyrannical extremists. If you are a gun owner and you vote Democrat, you are directly complicit in the future disarming and thought control that is coming if these yahoos take power.

        • The Commiecrats have shown disregard for “We the People”, beside Gov. “Coonman” with the likes of Rep. nuke em all if they don’t comply Swallowswell.
          They are a un American party that deserves no consideration based on their disregard of the American people.

  2. We here in CA are watching VA. You can bet our Dems in Sacramento are watching, too, since the FPC’s challenge to our AWB law is now before the very same conservative (Federal Judge Benitez) who granted us “Freedom Week” for our full-capacity magazines and struck down the law banning mere possession of them. Things are coming to a head on both coasts, and the Dems know it.

  3. Remember what happened at Lexington and Concord when the then ruling government wanted to confiscate the colonists guns! The 2nd Amendment is to protect from both foreign and domestic threats.

    • @Eagle10:
      Yeah. But the Brits didn’t have gun registration and COMPUTERS to aid them with confiscation.

      • Dave G – true enough but they ‘still’ knew where the arms/ammo were stashed. And in spite of knowing that the evil Colonists would resist such an egregious display of arrogance and government over reach, the made the attempt anyway. I would NOT put such an act against Citizens by the black face governor if he doesn’t get compliance. He should look at the (non)compliance in noo yawk and connectedcut as an example of what he could be facing if he does make such a move.

    • When pro-gun people respond to Rep. McEachin’s ridiculous comment we frequently hear mention of Lexington and Concord, but we don’t need to go back nearly that far to find a closer parallel case which is more likely….

      How about the time that a Democrat governor called out the state National Guard to deny citizens their civil rights. What happened? The Republican President federalized those same National Guardsmen to enforce the citizens rights under the US Constitution.

      September 1957, Little Rock Arkansas.

      A part of Democratic Party history that Democrats have been very successful in making disappear.

      • Quite right.
        An order or decree given by the Governor to the Guard can be disobeyed by the CG-NG of that State if countermanded by the Commander-in-Chief. Northam and his Progs are treading on very thin ice. They can issue any legislation and pass it but once unconstitutional, unlawful orders are issued to the military things can, and will, quickly go from bad to worse until a proper chain of command can set things right.

  4. The Democrats were talking about calling up the Guard, so someone clued them that the Guard is largely made up of supporters of the 2A Sanctuary Movement. I guess calling up the Guard and handing them weapons and armor, wasn’t one of their brightest ideas.

    • Best comment I’ve read on the issue.

      I simply thought they would refuse. It didn’t occur to me they might use the Infantry, Armor and Artillery against domestic enemies.

      • “It didn’t occur to me they might use the Infantry, Armor and Artillery against domestic enemies.”

        “…against all enemies, foreign, and DOMESTIC.” 🙂

        • You mean the gun grabbers in Richmond? Yes I am sure the NG would be happy to deal with gun grabbing Marxists. The NG swears an oath to the Constitution.

  5. Are you ready to with hold paying your state taxes?
    I remember seeing film and stories of farmers in the 1930s stopping local tax collectors using their guns. This use to be taught in high school history class when I was a kid.

    As far as I know shots were never fired. And the taxes were never collected.

    • Except that today the Guv can quickly block your ability to use financial instruments. All banking transactions are now electronic and online. Back in the ’30s, it was still done manually, and often in silver coin or direct notes.

    • We were taught that when banks foreclosed on farmers and held auctions to recover principal, their neighbors would gather and turn these into `penny auctions’: bid a penny here, a nickel there, and dare anyone to go higher. Then they gave the farmer back his farm.

      In my opinion, 2A patriots should begin doxxing officials, LEO’s, & politicians and put the findings online to remind those worthies that they do not operate in a vacuum.

      Further growls from the governor should result in his viewing family information on his phone.

      • Doxxing is super easy nowadays with the Interwebz. Not long ago, I informed a LEO (a friendly) that I used the name of his new side business as a start, and within only five minutes of following the trail, was able to determine his business info, his personal info, his employment info, his extended family, his personal home address, photos of his home from multiple angles, and info on his neighbors. Five minutes, and he was fully doxxed. And he was stunned (probably thinking about the safety of his wife and daughters).

        I told him how he could take some simple steps to muddy the waters a bit and at least make it harder for the average person to repeat the process from the comfort of his keyboard, but he never did it.

    • This is exactly why the Founders chose the words “throw off such government” instead of “overthrow”. The former is a purely defensive action in response to an encroaching danger, and is justified.

    • It’s sort of like they’ve paid attention over the years to how the Chinese regime deals with those who won’t comply, and wish to emulate it here.

      Basically what has been implied is “If you peasants don’t comply with our orders, we will send in the military and kill you all.” This is the wish of the Left, dressed up in slightly less offensive (for now) language.

      • I’ve put this on other blogs, Bloomberg reveres the Chinese and how they control their people. I do believe he would have no problem killing anyone that stands against his total take over. With Bloomberg putting so much money into getting the Dems elected, he is expecting pay back with his gun control making VA one of the most gun restrictive States in the Union.

  6. There’s nothing new about linking funding to compliance with the funding body’s policies. Remember the 55 mph national speed limit? The federal government didn’t set a country-wide speed limit. It doesn’t have the authority to do so. Instead, it “encouraged” states, who do have that authority, to set the feds’ preferred speed limit. Refusal to comply was “discouraged” by the threat of losing vital federal highway maintenance funds. The hypocrisy lies in supporting the use of funding as a club in some instances while objecting to it in others. The obvious examples are gun control and illegal immigration. Second amendment sanctuaries were inspired by sanctuaries for illegal immigrants.

    • “Refusal to comply was “discouraged” by the threat of losing vital federal highway maintenance funds.”

      OMG. Wasn’t that, like, uuuhhhmmm, you know, quid pro quo; a bribe?

      • Challenge accepted. What did USDOT during those years when Montana and Nevada didn’t have speed limits?

        • Those years when Montana and Nevada didn’t have speed limits where BEFORE the “Federal Fifty-Five” was enacted. Both states promptly set 55MPH speed limits although they didn’t put much effort into enforcing them.

  7. Aren’t the Liberals trying to impeach Trump for supposedly holding back funds to get what he wants ?

    • The Democrats are trying to impeach Trump because he was not on the elite’s pre-approved, vetted list of Republican candidates in 2016. That is the only issue involved.

  8. If you look up hypocracy in Merriam Webster, I think the initial definition includes the term “democrat”!

  9. It’s happening and it’s happening right now, they’re going to come get your guns and they’re going to kick the president out !!!!

  10. Here’s an idea, traitors in Virginia and across the country. How about all Federal aid gets stopped to any state or municipal government that enacts laws which violate the Constitution, you know – THE SUPREME LAW OF THE LAND? Put THAT in your pipes and smoke it.

  11. It’s not world-class, it is typical Leftist hypocrisy within our borders! The talk regarding the National Guard is interesting since a fair percentage of the Guard will be part of the resisters.

  12. It boggles the mind, I was reading an article about this on Newsmax yesterday. The same dem’s perpetuating the blue gun grab , are threatening law abiding citizens, police chief’s for gun sanctuary cities ,with physical, the governor is all in yet , the same governor is willing to allow laws protecting sanctuary for illegal aliens .so allow illegal criminals to flood VA counties, dont allow lifelong law abiding citizens rights under our constitution. Idiot’s!!

  13. I used to shame my head anytime I read or heard folks talking about civil war 2, not so much anymore.

  14. Let me take a run at this….

    Sanctuary cities/states for illegal aliens is good and proper because: 1) every person on the planet has a natural, human, civil, unalienable right to live wherever they wish; 2) illegals pose on immediate and imminent danger to anyone else because they are poor slobs trying to make a better life; 3) guns pose a direct, immediate and imminent threat to good people going about their business, intending harm to no one; 4) no one needs a gun (that’s what police and local grocery markets are for); 5) gun owners are likely to take out their rage by blowing a gasket and killing someone; 6) people have a natural, human, civil and god-given right to live safely. 7) uuuuhhh, aahhhh, rats….need to go out and get some fixin’s for margaritas before I can think of other stuff..,,,(and I need a bandage for this cut on my heel)

  15. How about this. The sanctuary counties collect state taxes. And keep them to fund their operations. After all, we send state taxes to the capital and they measure it back out and act like they’ve done us a favor.

    • Any State Legislator who threatens or calls for the use of military force against the citizens of her state needs to be dealt with swiftly and with no mercy.

  16. Does a swearing in count (Pelosi and the Rep in the photo) if both people don’t believe or represent the ideals of the book they are swearing upon?

  17. Remember in the WAR against Tyranny. There are no innocent players. Only those Fighting for Freedom or those Supporting the Tyrants. If blood must be spilled. The Tyrants and their Supporters must be treated equally. Mercy for All or Mercy for None. In the war against the Tyrannies that were Nazi Fascism and Imperial Japan. No quarter was given to the soldiers or supporters of these Regimes. That is why those battles were won at great cost. None the less they were defeated. Their ideals of domination were destroyed. Since those great victories. The world has become a place where Tyrannical Ideals are once again showing their Face. Because the idea of total destruction and total victory has been replaced by organizations like the U.N. People who try to defeat tyranny with words. While allowing and in many cases supporting the very Tyranny they claim to oppose. In the fight for Freedom against Tyranny. History has taught that words will at best forestall Tyranny long enough for it to gain a foothold on it’s Subjects. Many will claim: We Must take the Moral ground. History has also taught that taking the Moral ground simple gets more Subjects killed without victory. I give you Korea,Vietnam and every conflict in the Middle East since 1990. Quarter was given and the fight was lost and still continues in Korea and the Middle East. Let history be your guide. If the fight must be taken up. Then fight. Fight to win and be Damned the Innocents. If Not, Then Be the loyal Subjects they want You to be. Keep Your Powder Dry.

  18. The Blackface shameless VA Governor who also wore a KKK hood can be over ridden my the federal government or President!

    His statements show how ignorant he is!

    The National Guard is NOT FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT & SURELY NOT FOR ENFORCING ILLEGAL LAWS THAT BLATANTLY VIOLATE THE CONSTITUTION!

    CT HAS ONLY A 3-5% COMPLIANCE RATE OF CITIZENS …. THE SAME % FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT …AND THEY DID NOT CALL OUT THE NATIONAL GUARD OR START GOING DOOR TO DOOR TO CONFISCATE GUNS!

    Under state law, the national guard may be activated by governors to respond to domestic emergencies such as natural disasters and civil disturbances.

    National guard personnel can be ordered to active duty by the federal government to serve in overseas missions. They can be called to duty voluntarily or ordered under other specific circumstances.

    The President has the National Guard at his full disposal.

    A Governor has command of his N.G. whenever they are not on a Federal mission, which takes precedence. If a Guard Unit was on State Active duty for any reason, the President could yank them off THAT even, and “Federalize” them.

    • It would be a pretty sweet twofer if Trump decided to mobilize the Virginia national guard to patrol the southern border.

      • How about the time that a Democrat governor called out the state National Guard to deny citizens their civil rights. What happened? The Republican President federalized those same National Guardsmen to enforce the citizens rights under the US Constitution.

        September 1957, Little Rock Arkansas.

        A part of Democratic Party history that Democrats have been very successful in making disappear.

  19. So, the state says they’ll withhold funds to sanctuary counties and cities in Virginia. Okay, those counties and cities can play the same game. Any and all taxes and or funds collected that are supposed to be forwarded to the state (retail, property, fuel, etc.) shall be withheld from the state. Done.

  20. This whole thing is a joke.

    The National Guard… I dealt with that yesterday.

    Now, cities and counties are “creatures of the state” which means that, in theory, the state can do what it wants with the current funding that it has. However, there’s this nasty thing called “reality” and going forward there is no enforceable mechanism for the state to continue to extract taxes from the city/county which means that the cities/counties having been cut off from state funding could simply stop paying into the states general fund/other tax pools and keep the money for themselves.

    It’s important to note that a state generally takes what it gets from a county or city, takes percentage of the top (call it a “vig” if you like) and then returns the money to the county/city with strings attached in the form of budgeting rules. The cities and counties fund themselves at their respective levels too which means not paying the state money would actually make their budgeting easier because they wouldn’t have to worry about the strings that come with state money.

    So what happens if the Democrats really push this? Well, they fuck up their own state budget for one. Second, they really don’t have any mechanism to “remedy” the situation either other than capitulating to the outlying areas. The only “enforcement” tool they’d have at this disposal which couldn’t be taken away from them immediately would the State Police. Which would do what exactly? Arrest the perpetrators? Yeah, well those “perps” represent a ton of people in each city and county and are, likely, acting with those people’s tacit approval, ya know, being elected representatives and all. Can the state police arrest 50%+ of the county? I doubt it.

    This is a bluff and a bad one. If the Democrats push this there is basically no way they can win without outside assistance and does anyone here believe for one second that a bunch of far Left Democrats at the State level are going to get assistance in oppressing their state’s constituents from the current federal government?

    You wanna see how this goes down in reality? Look at Colorado’s mag ban laws. Nearly universally ignored. Laughed at by LE. Openly broken by LE. Openly broken by citizens with the approval and in some cases open encouragement of LE.

    And so what happens? Well the law stays on the books for Denver to “save face” but in reality nothing changes other than that the state government has undercut it’s own authority and is less respected in everything it does. But the state doesn’t bother trying to enforce the law because it knows it cannot. For people like me it’s as if the law was never passed.

    Why? Because actually trying to enforce the law is a fool’s errand and even the antis in Denver/Boulder know it. It’s all good and well to virtue signal to the antis out of state but when push comes to shove they’d prefer not to have their comfortable little houses burned to the ground.

  21. My question to these people is simple. If you can’t follow the law of the land, then what incentive is there for me to follow the law?

  22. No mention that the legislature in KY is now setting the table to pass exactly the same laws for the incoming Guv?

  23. The Dems saved Coonman’s political life in making sure he didn’t do a Franken, but now they want their pound of flesh. He probably got a 3am phone call, or found a pet on a stake but whichever, he’s down now with doin’ the bidness of his Masters. He was always a slave at heart, a Doctor with a license to kill, and a Governor with a license to kill bigger people too. Democrats foster the smell of death where ever they go.

  24. “POWER COMES FROM THE BARREL OF A GUN” MAYO ZEDONG

    The Governor not only controls the big guns (The National Guard) he also controls the money. End of story. End of Gun Rights in Virginia. And there is not one corrupt Judge that will overturn his new proposed draconian gun bans. History has prove that the Courts hate the Second Amendment with a passion because guns are a threat to their absolute power over the proletariat who in Capitalvania are considered expendable.

    150,000 people died in 2018 from lack of health and drug care and 5 million went bankrupt, and the new Democratic bill that would have lowered drug prices to Medicare people was laughed at by the Gangster Criminal Prostitute Republican Senators who are the biggest threat on the planet to the health and welfare of the American People. They screamed that the drug companies have every right to bankrupt the people for every penny they can screw them out of because the Gangster Criminal Republicans are getting a cut of the money.

    Vote Socialist in 2020 and destroy the biggest enemy of the American People on the planet, the Republican Party. Prostitute Scum of the earth.

    • moreadventuresonotherplanets

      Vote socialist? Tell me, ignorant scumbag. Do you have any idea as to the number of people that have been exterminated due to “socialism”? Just in the last century alone there were around TWO-HUNDRED MILLION people exterminated. And guess what, socialist traitor? Those people were generally disarmed before their governments perpetrated genocide on them.

      So you can take your socialist ideas and cram them so far up your posterior that they’ll never see the light of day again. Because your treasonous fantasy is never going to happen here in America.

      • RIGHT ON BROTHER, that’s telling it like it is. There are a ton of undereducated people in this country. Our public educational system is doing more indoctrination than education.

  25. GARRETT EPPS—CONSTITUTIONAL SCHOLAR
    MARCH 8, 2018

    The Second Amendment Does Not Transcend All Others
    Its text and context don’t ensure an unlimited individual right to bear any kind and number of weapons by anyone.

    That contextual reading is quite enlightening; it strongly suggests to me that the main—indeed, almost exclusive—purpose of the amendment was, in fact, to protect the rights of states to maintain and arm militias. There’s certainly enough evidence to support an argument for some reference to personal possession—but no convincing proof that personal possession was the main focus, or that personal possession was intended to be unqualified.

    That’s the context. To me it suggests that, in adopting what became the Second Amendment, members of Congress were attempting to reassure the states that they could retain their militias and that Congress could not disarm them. Maybe there was a subsidiary right to bear arms; but the militia is the main thing the Constitution revamped, and the militia is what the Amendment talks about.

    I’ve devoted years of my life to studying such ideas as the “original understanding” or “original public meaning” of constitutional provisions. No matter what anyone tells you, no one (and I certainly include myself) can really know the single meaning of any part of the Constitution at the time it was adopted.

    Anyone who claims that the text of the amendment is “plain” has a heavy burden to carry. The burden is even heavier if an advocate argues that the Second Amendment was understood to upend laws against concealed carry or dangerous weapons—both of which were in force in many parts of the country long after it was adopted.

    So it may be that the amendment’s text supports something like where we are now: Dick Heller, a law-abiding citizen, can own a handgun in his home for self-protection. The text and context, however, don’t point us to an unlimited individual right to bear any kind and number of weapons by anyone, whether a minor or a felon or domestic abuser. That would be a right that, if recognized by the courts, has the potential to disrupt our society at a profound level; a right that, as Fallows’s correspondent blithely asserts, renders the damage of gun violence “utterly irrelevant.”

    There’s no other such right anywhere in the Constitution. To prove that the Second Amendment transcends all others, the proof would have to be damned strong. I haven’t seen it yet.

    • The 2nd Amendment recognizes the fact that “The State” will have an army ( A well regulated militia ) as a requirement of a “Free State” and because of the possibility of this army (NATIOAL GUARD) being turned against the people, the right of the people to bear arms SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED. Simple English that only the liberals can’t understand.

    • moreadventuresonotherplanets

      To put it quite simply so that you can understand. The right to keep and bear arms PREEXISTED the Constitution of the United States of America:

      “That the subjects which are Protestants may have arms for their defence suitable to their conditions and as allowed by law.”–English Bill of Rights 1689.

      Only after the right was secured by the Constitution, the prerequisite; “suitable to their conditions and as allowed by law” was removed. As is plainly shown here by this eminent early American legal authority:

      “This may be considered as the true palladium of liberty . . . The right of self defense is the first law of nature; in most governments it has been the study of rulers to confine this right within the narrowest possible limits…and [when] the right of the people to keep and bear arms is, under any color or pretext whatsoever, prohibited, liberty, if not already annihilated, is on the brink of destruction. In England, the people have been disarmed, generally, under the specious pretext of preserving the game: a never failing lure to bring over the landed aristocracy to support any measure, under that mask, though calculated for very different purposes. True it is, their bill of rights seems at first view to counteract this policy: but the right of bearing arms is confined to protestants, and the words suitable to their condition and degree, have been interpreted to authorise the prohibition of keeping a gun or other engine for the destruction of game, to any farmer, or inferior tradesman, or other person not qualified to kill game. So that not one man in five hundred can keep a gun in his house without being subject to a penalty.”–St. George Tucker, Blackstone’s Commentaries, U.S. District Court Judge, July 10, 1752 – Nov. 10, 1827. (Mr. Tucker was a Lawyer and Professor of law at the College of William and Mary. He was appointed one of the committee to revise the laws of Virginia, and he served with James Madison and Edmund Randolph as Virginia commissioners to the Annapolis Convention. In 1803 Tucker became a judge of the highest court in Virginia. In 1813 he was appointed by President James Madison to be the United States District Court Judge for Virginia. Tucker also, as District Court Judge, sat with Chief Justice John Marshall on the U.S. Circuit Court in Richmond.)

      Would suggest that you do some further studying on the subject. For it is quite apparent that you don’t have the slightest idea of what you are writing about.

  26. Half of Virginia broke seceded and formed West Virginia, perhaps it’s time this happened again. The counties surrounding DC DO not in any way represent the rest of Virginia, it’s the same look as down-state NY controlling up-state and Chicago area dominating the rest of Illinois.

    • Because a vast amount of people get all of their news from the mass media such as MSNBC, CNN, NBC, ABC and CBS, we have a large group of low information voters. I know that FOX NEWS has a lot of conservative bias, but it has been my experience that those who watch FOX NEWS will be informed of what the rest of mass media is reporting. So you will not miss anything by watching FOX NEWS. What you will gain however, is finding out what the mass media is not reporting and what they are distorting. So start watching FOX NEWS if want to get all of the facts. There is a reason that the mass media continually bad mouths FOX NEWS. They don’t like their LIES exposed. Because why do you think President Trump calls them “FAKE NEWS”? Enlighten yourself, find out just how corrupt this government bureaucracy has become. IT’S TIME TO WAKE UP AMERICA.

        • I’m afraid you’re seeing a more balanced approach to political news as a slide to the left.
          While it the biases of the Fox News personnel can be detected. Some are liberals but the majority are conservative. Fox News is a hell of lot more balanced than the rest of the
          National Media. Just thank God it exists and pray that more of the National Media finally
          comes to its senses and becomes more balanced. But I fear that because our National Media is in hands of a very few corrupt powerful people that will never happen. There’s just to much money to be made by fooling the American People.

          • “I’m afraid you’re seeing a more balanced approach to political news as a slide to the left.”

            Nope. Fox WAS the balance to the rest of the media. There is no “balance” purpose for presenting alternative views on the one outlet that refused to cave to pressure of the authoritarians.

            With the advent of including hard left contributors, all the shows now trend left. Shep Smith was the lead. Rather expect Fox had to remove Smith because he was too blatant, too soon. With Paul Ryan telling the leadership at Fox to disengage from Trump, and that story have about a 30sec half-life on Fox News, the drift is becoming unmistakable.

            Fox News was once the visceral alternative to MSM. Now Fox is sliding into something indistinguishable from the MSM. Fox once presented “the other side” of the news. Presenting “both sides” is a step away from “other”. We don’t need Fox to tell us what the left is saying/reporting.

  27. Daytime Fox News programs do indeed slant more to the left than the evening programing. Tucker Carlson is a conservative with an open mind to liberal ideas that make sense, granted there aren’t very many. Sean Hannity is a conservative who leans farther to the right. His bias is sometimes over the top, but he is right about the existence of a DEEP STATE embedded in our government bureaucracy and some politicians who are Republican in name only. Laura Ingram is more like Tucker Carlson. She tells it like it is and has no use for liberals. The only time the liberals tell you the truth is when they admit their Socialist leanings. Socialist liberals are struggling for absolute power and there is nothing they won’t say or do to achieve this.

  28. I do have to wonder how much of this is 1. a test of Virginians resolve and 2. to create a clusterf*** during 2020 election so as to prevent another Trump win. I heard a rumor that Killary is attempting another stab at the WH. Personally I think Northam and all those that sign any anti-gun bills should be subject to immediate arrest and conviction of crimes against the people.

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