The following text and images have been attributed to Dylann Roof. It is presented here in its entirety, unedited. Text retrieved from here.
I was not raised in a racist home or environment. Living in the South, almost every White person has a small amount of racial awareness, simply beause of the numbers of negroes in this part of the country. But it is a superficial awareness. Growing up, in school, the White and black kids would make racial jokes toward each other, but all they were were jokes. Me and White friends would sometimes would watch things that would make us think that “blacks were the real racists” and other elementary thoughts like this, but there was no real understanding behind it.
The event that truly awakened me was the Trayvon Martin case. I kept hearing and seeing his name, and eventually I decided to look him up. I read the Wikipedia article and right away I was unable to understand what the big deal was. It was obvious that Zimmerman was in the right. But more importantly this prompted me to type in the words “black on White crime” into Google, and I have never been the same since that day. The first website I came to was the Council of Conservative Citizens. There were pages upon pages of these brutal black on White murders. I was in disbelief. At this moment I realized that something was very wrong. How could the news be blowing up the Trayvon Martin case while hundreds of these black on White murders got ignored?
From this point I researched deeper and found out what was happening in Europe. I saw that the same things were happening in England and France, and in all the other Western European countries. Again I found myself in disbelief. As an American we are taught to accept living in the melting pot, and black and other minorities have just as much right to be here as we do, since we are all immigrants. But Europe is the homeland of White people, and in many ways the situation is even worse there. From here I found out about the Jewish problem and other issues facing our race, and I can say today that I am completely racially aware.
Blacks
I think it is is fitting to start off with the group I have the most real life experience with, and the group that is the biggest problem for Americans.
Niggers are stupid and violent. At the same time they have the capacity to be very slick. Black people view everything through a racial lense. Thats what racial awareness is, its viewing everything that happens through a racial lense. They are always thinking about the fact that they are black. This is part of the reason they get offended so easily, and think that some thing are intended to be racist towards them, even when a White person wouldnt be thinking about race. The other reason is the Jewish agitation of the black race.
Black people are racially aware almost from birth, but White people on average dont think about race in their daily lives. And this is our problem. We need to and have to.
Say you were to witness a dog being beat by a man. You are almost surely going to feel very sorry for that dog. But then say you were to witness a dog biting a man. You will most likely not feel the same pity you felt for the dog for the man. Why? Because dogs are lower than men.
This same analogy applies to black and White relations. Even today, blacks are subconsciously viewed by White people are lower beings. They are held to a lower standard in general. This is why they are able to get away with things like obnoxious behavior in public. Because it is expected of them.
Modern history classes instill a subconscious White superiority complex in Whites and an inferiority complex in blacks. This White superiority complex that comes from learning of how we dominated other peoples is also part of the problem I have just mentioned. But of course I dont deny that we are in fact superior.
I wish with a passion that niggers were treated terribly throughout history by Whites, that every White person had an ancestor who owned slaves, that segregation was an evil an oppressive institution, and so on. Because if it was all it true, it would make it so much easier for me to accept our current situation. But it isnt true. None of it is. We are told to accept what is happening to us because of ancestors wrong doing, but it is all based on historical lies, exaggerations and myths. I have tried endlessly to think of reasons we deserve this, and I have only came back more irritated because there are no reasons.
Only a fourth to a third of people in the South owned even one slave. Yet every White person is treated as if they had a slave owning ancestor. This applies to in the states where slavery never existed, as well as people whose families immigrated after slavery was abolished. I have read hundreds of slaves narratives from my state. And almost all of them were positive. One sticks out in my mind where an old ex-slave recounted how the day his mistress died was one of the saddest days of his life. And in many of these narratives the slaves told of how their masters didnt even allowing whipping on his plantation.
Segregation was not a bad thing. It was a defensive measure. Segregation did not exist to hold back negroes. It existed to protect us from them. And I mean that in multiple ways. Not only did it protect us from having to interact with them, and from being physically harmed by them, but it protected us from being brought down to their level. Integration has done nothing but bring Whites down to level of brute animals. The best example of this is obviously our school system.
Now White parents are forced to move to the suburbs to send their children to “good schools”. But what constitutes a “good school”? The fact is that how good a school is considered directly corresponds to how White it is. I hate with a passion the whole idea of the suburbs. To me it represents nothing but scared White people running. Running because they are too weak, scared, and brainwashed to fight. Why should we have to flee the cities we created for the security of the suburbs? Why are the suburbs secure in the first place? Because they are White. The pathetic part is that these White people dont even admit to themselves why they are moving. They tell themselves it is for better schools or simply to live in a nicer neighborhood. But it is honestly just a way to escape niggers and other minorities.
But what about the White people that are left behind? What about the White children who, because of school zoning laws, are forced to go to a school that is 90 percent black? Do we really think that that White kid will be able to go one day without being picked on for being White, or called a “white boy”? And who is fighting for him? Who is fighting for these White people forced by economic circumstances to live among negroes? No one, but someone has to.
Here I would also like to touch on the idea of a Norhtwest Front. I think this idea is beyond stupid. Why should I for example, give up the beauty and history of my state to go to the Norhthwest? To me the whole idea just parralells the concept of White people running to the suburbs. The whole idea is pathetic and just another way to run from the problem without facing it.
Some people feel as though the South is beyond saving, that we have too many blacks here. To this I say look at history. The South had a higher ratio of blacks when we were holding them as slaves. Look at South Africa, and how such a small minority held the black in apartheid for years and years. Speaking of South Africa, if anyone thinks that think will eventually just change for the better, consider how in South Africa they have affirmative action for the black population that makes up 80 percent of the population.
It is far from being too late for America or Europe. I believe that even if we made up only 30 percent of the population we could take it back completely. But by no means should we wait any longer to take drastic action.
Anyone who thinks that White and black people look as different as we do on the outside, but are somehow magically the same on the inside, is delusional. How could our faces, skin, hair, and body structure all be different, but our brains be exactly the same? This is the nonsense we are led to believe.
Negroes have lower Iqs, lower impulse control, and higher testosterone levels in generals. These three things alone are a recipe for violent behavior. If a scientist publishes a paper on the differences between the races in Western Europe or Americans, he can expect to lose his job. There are personality traits within human families, and within different breeds of cats or dogs, so why not within the races?
A horse and a donkey can breed and make a mule, but they are still two completely different animals. Just because we can breed with the other races doesnt make us the same.
In a modern history class it is always emphasized that, when talking about “bad” things Whites have done in history, they were White. But when we lern about the numerous, almost countless wonderful things Whites have done, it is never pointed out that these people were White. Yet when we learn about anything important done by a black person in history, it is always pointed out repeatedly that they were black. For example when we learn about how George Washington carver was the first nigger smart enough to open a peanut.
On another subject I want to say this. Many White people feel as though they dont have a unique culture. The reason for this is that White culture is world culture. I dont mean that our culture is made up of other cultures, I mean that our culture has been adopted by everyone in the world. This makes us feel as though our culture isnt special or unique. Say for example that every business man in the world wore a kimono, that every skyscraper was in the shape of a pagoda, that every door was a sliding one, and that everyone ate every meal with chopsticks. This would probably make a Japanese man feel as though he had no unique traditional culture.
I have noticed a great disdain for race mixing White women within the White nationalists community, bordering on insanity it. These women are victims, and they can be saved. Stop.
Jews
Unlike many White naitonalists, I am of the opinion that the majority of American and European jews are White. In my opinion the issues with jews is not their blood, but their identity. I think that if we could somehow destroy the jewish identity, then they wouldnt cause much of a problem. The problem is that Jews look White, and in many cases are White, yet they see themselves as minorities. Just like niggers, most jews are always thinking about the fact that they are jewish. The other issue is that they network. If we could somehow turn every jew blue for 24 hours, I think there would be a mass awakening, because people would be able to see plainly what is going on.
I dont pretend to understand why jews do what they do. They are enigma.
Hispanics
Hispanics are obviously a huge problem for Americans. But there are good hispanics and bad hispanics. I remember while watching hispanic television stations, the shows and even the commercials were more White than our own. They have respect for White beauty, and a good portion of hispanics are White. It is a well known fact that White hispanics make up the elite of most hispanics countries. There is good White blood worht saving in Uruguay, Argentina, Chile and even Brasil.
But they are still our enemies.
East Asians
I have great respent for the East Asian races. Even if we were to go extinct they could carry something on. They are by nature very racist and could be great allies of the White race. I am not opposed at all to allies with the Northeast Asian races.
Patriotism
I hate the sight of the American flag. Modern American patriotism is an absolute joke. People pretending like they have something to be proud while White people are being murdered daily in the streets. Many veterans believe we owe them something for “protecting our way of life” or “protecting our freedom”. But im not sure what way of life they are talking about. How about we protect the White race and stop fighting for the jews. I will say this though, I myself would have rather lived in 1940’s American than Nazi Germany, and no this is not ignorance speaking, it is just my opinion. So I dont blame the veterans of any wars up until after Vietnam, because at least they had an American to be proud of and fight for.
An Explanation
To take a saying from a film, “I see all this stuff going on, and I dont see anyone doing anything about it. And it pisses me off.”. To take a saying from my favorite film, “Even if my life is worth less than a speck of dirt, I want to use it for the good of society.”.
I have no choice. I am not in the position to, alone, go into the ghetto and fight. I chose Charleston because it is most historic city in my state, and at one time had the highest ratio of blacks to Whites in the country. We have no skinheads, no real KKK, no one doing anything but talking on the internet. Well someone has to have the bravery to take it to the real world, and I guess that has to be me.
Unfortunately at the time of writing I am in a great hurry and some of my best thoughts, actually many of them have been to be left out and lost forever. But I believe enough great White minds are out there already.
Please forgive any typos, I didnt have time to check it.
why are u publishing this garbage? when do we publish the ramblings of a murderous psychopath?
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Gotta agree.
Possibly encourages copycats.
Should only be referred to as “latest murderous scumbag” in print.
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The MK Ultra literature professionals have been hard at work with this document.
My belief is that we should make as much information available as possible, so people can be informed and make their own conclusions. That’s why we publish things such as this, and will continue to do so.
Hear, hear.
I agree with Nick. I like more information – not less. he has plenty of attention already and this will be posted elsewhere as well. Why not read it here. Furthermore learning his motive teaches us and we in turn can teach others why he was wrong.
Sorry, Nick,
I generally see your side of things, but in this case, it’s a very bad decision. Giving any publicity to mass killers is bad enough. Posting their manifestoes is inexcusable. I don’t need to know any more about this sickko than I already do.
The sooner this twisted f*ck gets a lift to the hereafter the better. I’m not interested in his rationales.
Gotta love the head-in-the-sand crowd. As if not publishing the information makes it all just go away.
@Randall: Yup. It wouldn’t surprise me if the type also supported background checks on the right to keep and bear arms or even many gun free zones. They’re burying their heads in the sand in all cases.
yeah, i don’t think you should be publishing the text here. a link to it elsewhere maybe. Reason being that this garbage will now return links to TTAG in Google, etc. I don’t think you want to be associated with this. All it will take is a few sympathetic comments for MSM types to point to TTAG as a hotbed of racists. Just seems like a great opportunity for someone to twist this article.
on topic, what a farking tool.
Good points about the stigma of association. The link to the original text does’t appear to work. Unfortunately the anti gun zealots have made this their stock and trade and debunking mass murders that have used guns has become our issue in many ways. The text is distasteful for obvious reasons but IMO it may belong on a pro rights site as there are anti gun owner activists will be going over it trying to glean some angle on stigmatizing all of us and using this as a excuse for removing our civil rights.
It is the best insight I have had as to why this person did the atrocities he did, the news has if anything clouded the motivations. I recall in Michael Dorner’s “manefesto” the surprising revelation that he was a Joe Biden supporter and his plea to Dianne Feinstein to use his crazy rampage to help justify her gun control efforts.
If there is a real interest in getting to the root causes of these incidents, then it should be self evident that it will take looking at really was going on in the head of this person.
Unfortunately a “manifesto” is not necessarily a accurate picture but it is likely the best look we will get.
It appears that in the “manifesto” that the injustice he perceived around Trayvon Martin incident was the trigger to creating his world view that caused him go on this path.
Certainly there was gross exploitation of that tragedy to incite racism, playing it as a “white vigilante” killing a innocent.
Looking at the facts of that case made it clear that it was not as the media played it. It was still a tragic convergence of individuals and if it had not been exploited and been reported in a objective manner would have spared many people a lot of suffering.
So Nick, WTF did you learn from the murderous racist psycho rant that makes a difference in how we combat them?
The only thing that I’ve learned from the psychos over the last 20 years is that they crave the limelight of people reading their psycho babble.
I am ready for a grand voluntary social experiment where the press and the internet voluntarily refuse to mention the name, image, or ramblings of asshat mass-murderers. Would also encourage an effort where Google buries the links that mentions the name and images of the psycho. When someone does a search of Charleston killer name I’d like google just to return images of dogsheet. I’m just saying that I’d like to see an experiment like this run for 20 years or so.
For example, we’ve learned that the Council of Conservative Citizens publishes racial hate propaganda?
Surely the antis would encourage such an experiment but with a different target.
I am ready for a grand voluntary social experiment where the press and the internet voluntarily refuse to mention the name, image, or ramblings of asshat ammosexuals. Would also encourage an effort where Google buries the links that mentions the name and images of the psycho. When someone does a search of an ammosexual’s name I’d like google just to return images of dogsheet. I’m just saying that I’d like to see an experiment like this run for 20 years or so.
If there was a complete blackout then how would most people know what happened and that he was a raving racist murderer? If the information wasn’t readily available then an anti group with enough funds could push a lie that he was a NRA supporter angry about gun control. Who would know differently? Also, assassinations could be going on and we wouldn’t know what they were. No, the information needs to flow freely.
I’ve read this killer’s communiqué. I’m not sure yet what there is to learn from it, though I hadn’t heard before of segregation explained in terms of protecting whites from blacks.
Nevertheless, just because insights are not immediately forthcoming doesn’t necessarily mean there’s no value in publishing and reading this.
After all, some twenty years or so ago, I read the Unabomber’s manifesto, too. At the time, identical arguments were made against publishing it and granting that monster the notoriety he craved. Well.
Not too long thereafter, I read Al “Inventor of the Internet” Gore’s book “Earth in the Balance.” Many of the more vitriolic and histrionic passages are indistinguishable between the two. In fact, in Internet political chat rooms of the day, I used to post brief passages from one and challenge oh so feeling and caring liberals to identify which source it came from. You can imagine the backpedaling, fury and hilarity that ensued.
All of which helped put into perspective for me the designs, desires and collectivist agenda of the statists. And here we are. So, what value might result from TTAG having published today this killer’s diatribe? I don’t know. Let’s check back in twenty years.
I agree with Nick. In my opinion the info is important to realize (hopefully) how dangerous people think, at least to an extent. The killer didn’t have respect for human beings, only the ones he deemed as worthy of life. He is equal to any other terrorist in that thinks he has the rightto decide who is ultimately good and bad and who deserves to live and who deserves to die. The murders, although committed with a gun, are much more sinister compared to most active shooters. He probably wasn’t mentally ill, he was just brainwashed and an asshole….in my opinion.
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I didn’t read the whole thing but I found myself agreeing with some of his comments. I didn’t see anything in there that came close to justification of murder so don’t take this as any defense of his acts. However, he was spot on about the Trayvon Martin case. I was just as perplexed at the treatment George Zimmerman received for simply defending himself. Those that went against Zimmerman, and Officer Wilson in Ferguson were the racists in those cases. Roof decided to lower himself to the level of those that shot cops and murdered white people rather than take the high ground that most of us sane people are able to do. I am not defending Roof nor will I forget the amount of hate exemplified in Samford FL, Ferguson MO, Baltimore MD and New York City. Things have got to change and this killing doesn’t help.
I get that, but stop publishing his name.
You don’t need to publish his name, photo, or screed to get info out.
Agreed. Thank you.
Please take this down. People can get the ‘information’ where they may. This is not that place. It does us no good and is helping to spread a killers legacy.
Shame. Link to it if you absolutely must, but I strongly disagree with having this on here.
You publish this for the same reason you publish anything else, to generate traffic for your website. Please spare us the nonsense about performing a public service.
Agreed. You cannot heap scorn and derision on that which is hidden. Keeping it hidden, or censoring it, gives it gravitas it does not deserve.
And stop naming the asshole. They do this because they want their names in the headlines. You are giving him what he wants.
Few people paid much attention to this loser who threw his life away for nothing, and now we’re all reading his innermost thoughts, being published everywhere. Normally you’d have to go to hate websites to read this kind of text, but here it is as the news of the day on The Truth About Guns. These mass murderers do this because they’re spreading a message. They want people to try to understand their mad ravings, and to inspire copycats. I was upset when the New York Times published the Aurora, Colorado movie theater mass murderer’s violent lunatic manifesto. There was nothing to be gained from it, it was violent nonsense written by a mentally ill man and clearly written for an audience. I’m even more disappointed in The Truth About Guns. I’m not saying this information should be unavailable to the public, but it shouldn’t be promoted on frontpages. Stop turning these people into celebrities! The Columbine murderers have multiple movies made about them, both documentaries and reenactments, and there is even a (non-commercial) video game genre of massacre simulations based on real mass shooting incidents. It’s sad to say, but I’m sure the average American teenager can tell me more about the lives of these murderers than about truly notable and important historical figures like Alexander the Great or Alexander Hamilton. It’s the fault of American mass media, and The Truth About Guns is unfortunately no exception.
First there was a TTAG post supporting Holocaust denial. Now there’s this garbage. This site is doing an excellent job of making sure we look like hatemongering nuts.
Brian, I think you missed the point. This is an article showing the rantings of a madman. It was not put here to show any kind of agreement with his views. I suspect the Holocaust denial article you mentioned is doing the same though I don’t remember reading that one. Perhaps someone can provide a link ?
Is anyone else tired of hearing that the shooter was insane, a madman, a lunatic? This guy is a racist. He is evil. He is not insane. He did not hear voices that told him to kill. He read racist websites and chose to believe their idiotic claims. That makes him pathetic, not insane. Please, don’t mix up the two.
Supporting Holocaust denial? WTF? The publisher’s father was a Holocaust survivor. I don’t think that denial is part of TTAG’s agenda.
I’ve never seen any TTAG article supporting holocost denial or any hate whatsoever. Authors and members here are from a wonderful mix of ethnicities, beliefs, sexual orientations, and backgrounds that come together daily here under the shared belief of the importance of an armed citizenry. We’ve got a melting pot right here! 🙂
Guessing it may have something to do with the 1st amendment. Gives insight on the mind of one sick person and why he killed those people. Also makes me wonder why someone did not recognize what was going on with him before he started killing. His diatribe is really just a way to justify his prejudice and alienation towards anyone or anything that is not a “WASP”. Probably made him feel superior for no other reason than that he won the birth lottery. Often people that feel inferior seem to need a few scapegoats to help them to feel better about themselves. Wonder how he will feel when he finds out that he likely has some African blood in him ? No doubt he will deny that with every fiber in his being. But, antropologists have confirmed that almost all of us have some African way back in our past. Basically just another nut case preying on innocent, unarmed people. Another Hilter wannabe.
>”we”
>implying you have anything to do with anything
Not a fan of Sun Tzu, huh?
Meh. I really don’t give even a little shit about this kids justifications. Just try him, and if found guilty, hang him. I’m sick of hearing excuses like mental illness or racism as justification for what monsters like this do.
The ramblings of a complete nut-job. I am not a psychological professional, but I have to think he has some mental health pathology. I wonder what his parents were doing while all this was bubbling up in his head?
I am not a mental health expert, I will defer to others on his mental health. That aside, I think it is somewhat useful to learn about his ideology. Seems to me that we probably should regard him as a particular type of lone wolf domestic terrorist, there have been others like him before, and we should expect others thinking like him may try something again.
I totally agree. If nothing else, it clearly shows his lack of education and its effect on his psychosis or whatever the hell it is.
I doubt we’re going to be able to pinpoint one tidy cause of this kind of violent behavior. It’s likely a combination of factors, so knowing them will be helpful in figuring out possible solutions.
The blue Jew bit was oddly humorous (the rhyming, not his theory). And I actually laughed out loud when he said, “I dont pretend to understand why jews do what they do.” I thought, “No shit.” This guy didn’t have a solid clue about much.
There are many others like him, right this very moment, they just haven’t convinced themselves to take up arms. If you go to Stormfront and read the forums there, you will see pretty much everything that is in this “manifesto”, right down to specific phrases.
Stop making that shitbag famous. Go back to the truth about guns.
Whatever happens here on TTAG this little “shitbag” is already and will remain infamous, the Liberals and gun-grabbers will make sure of that. The important thing is to get into the public discussion the FACTS of what happened and what may have motivated him so that the anti-gun crowd cannot continue to pretend that somehow the Republicans, or Conservatives or the NRA somehow had anything at all to do with this atrocity.
Please STOP PUBLISHING THIS!
All it does is enhearten the next would-be spree killer that after his death his words will be heard. That’s exactly what they want.
Nonsense.
Anyone that would “copy-cat” just because of notoriety, needs to be flushed out. Next time let’s just deal with them properly and snuff them out before they succeed with a mass killing. I never understood the mentality that you suppress information in order to suppress more murderous acts. It’s not like we are doing a glamour shot on the cover of Rolling Stone.
These photos are worse than glamour shots. They’re the murderer’s self-portraits, exactly as he wished to lionize himself and be seen. Tsarnaev probably also would have rather been seen as a glorious freedom fighter rather than a teen idol. To most people he might look like a deranged and dangerous psychopath filled with hatred, but portraits like these are intended for the smaller receptive audience that will celebrate him.
I’m not worried. Spree killers don’t hang out where there’s too much sanity, so they’re likely not hanging out here.
We’ll make you famous
While I feel it is beneficial to study the thoughts of evil, as the best way to defeat an enemy is to know how they think and most important why they act the way they do, I do not know if it is in the best interest of our websites community to publish such literature.
Interesting. Thanks for posting it.
Sounds like the typical post from Stormfront
Yep. It has been a while since I stopped in and checked how the garbage was spewing there but I thought the same as you did.
The little pr1ck’s middle name is Storm. I’m not kidding.
Wow… Just wow.
Storm Roof. Interesting. Its a reasonably common middle name though, in case that wasn’t what you were eluding to.
“The little pr1ck’s middle name is Storm. I’m not kidding.”
Now there’s an interesting prison dynamic.
The Aryan Nation may protect him, while other half wants his head on a plate.
If that race war breaks out, at least it will be behind prison walls….
So this piece of racist, antisemitic garbage decided to go into a church (a gun free zone) in search of some defenseless people. In doing so he became a poster child to politicians who want to take away peoples rights for armed defense. He will no doubt cause many more violent incidents between “black” and “white”. I am disgusted and hope he burns in Hell
I hope that this tragedy can be used to unite us and not divide us.
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I hated to click on this link and give you another “page view” for this story but I wanted to express my disgust with you guys posting this. Just stop. Stop using his name, stop posting information about him. Don’t give him what he doesn’t deserve. His name and story need to be forgotten. Immortalize the victims. Forget this this little POS.
I feel exactly the same way.
Avoiding the facts will never fix the problem. No we should not hide from the rantings of a nutjob. Publishing without editing it was the only way to understand how this nutjob was created. TTAG is mostly the only place you will get unedited fact.
^^^ This ^^^
Disagree.
This tells us NOTHING about how he was created, it just details his rants after-the-fact and serves as a rallying point for the microscopic few who share them. It assures him a place in history, which is one of the things that many of these killers are looking for; deny them that, and we MIGHT just have fewer of these shootings.
No names, no photos, no manifestos. Number them to tell’em apart (June 2015 scumbag #1).
I wouldn’t be so sure. His manifesto explains why he thinks he is the way he is, but people like that are often painfully lacking in insight into their own condition. It’s kind of like listening to a schizophrenic talk about the alien implants in his brain.
Yeah, the whole thing is basically an exercise in finding a way to blame the world for his own problems, under the guise of trying to make sense of the world.
Which is not to say he didn’t find the world confusing and struggle to make sense of it. He clearly did. But that isn’t what drove him to do what he did. Not sure we’ll ever find that one out, since he very likely doesn’t know it himself.
Yep. A mentally stable, sane person wouldn’t throw their life away just to murder nine innocent churchgoers. I doubt he was “just a normal man” infected by bad ideas. The key piece of the puzzle explaining why people do things like this is usually “he was insane”. These acts are not logical, and a logical person has to be extremely indoctrinated to do something like this. If they’re self-motivated, usually you’re dealing with an unhinged, illogical person. It’s often not the most fervent diehards of these hateful ideologies that give their lives over to “the struggle”. It’s not like most suicide bombers are scholars of the Koran. They’re sort of middling devotees who are either pushed to give their lives to commit mass murder under great pressure or are simply crazy enough that they want to do so without anyone asking. Often they were just looking for a rationale for a dramatic end to their life and they found it in such-and-such cause.
Well, that’s droll reading.
But only one problem….normal, sane, intelligent, God-fearing people don’t go into churches and shoot up the place. Another problem…anyone could have cooked this up in the last day or two. You can fake damn near anything these days. What’s to say this isn’t? Unless it was actually found in Roof’s apartment and seized by police AND is ruled admissible by a court, then….it should be considered fake. Even though I personally favor publishing it to expose it for the screed it is. Reasonably intelligent people know the difference.
And finally, I still stand by this morning’s observation that people like Jeb Lund are much more dangerous to the safety and stability of our country than any random sicko. It’s not even close.
Tom
My cursory understanding is that it is sourced to a website, the URL for which returns WHOIS information for Dylann Roof.
I questioned whether this clown could have written this. It was extremely well-written (not rational, but well-put anyway) for a recent product of American public education. He asks forgiveness for any typos, implying this was a quick first draft. No way.
Skip the trial, Take him out to the range and use him for a target, at 7 yards.
Summary executions have no place in a free society. You already know that. I’m assuming that emotion got in the way of logic for you on this one as many of your other posts are well reasoned.
John,
Yeah, your right. Emotions in the way. There is a difference when a person is caught “red handed” and when there is a possibility that he may be innocent.
Thanks for the compliment on other posts.
But in jail he will be beaten, raped, and eventually, killed. And it’s cheaper than execution.
But in jail he will be beaten, raped, and eventually, killed.
That’s nothing for a people to be proud of and each time it’s trotted out I am disgusted. The only ones who would express glee over such repugnant conditions would be the ignorant and psychopaths.
I could not read all of his grammatically incorrect rambling contradictions, but I will say I believe he is strongly confusing ‘race’ with ‘socioeconomic power’.
The part about turning the Jews blue for a day made me chuckle. Would I turn completely blue or maybe just turquoise?
Blue Jews!? Oy Vey!
I say let’s get it out there and see the kind of drivel that motivates way too many people, and every time something like this happens it hurts the rest of us as well as the actual victims.
Likewise, take a scan of the Unabomber’s “manifesto,” Hitler’s “Mein Kampf,” and the various ramblings from the communists, like “Mao’s Little Red Book,” and the “Communist Manifesto,” or “The Protocols of the Elders of Zion.” Words are powerful; to wit, the Bible, Shakespeare, the Book of Common Prayer, and Bunyan’s “Pilgrim’s Progress” on the other side. It would behoove us to know what we’re up against and what we have going for us.
And obviously, rather than dismiss this stuff in its entirety and consign it to Outer Darkness, we should probably try to understand why many passages in it may well resonate with more and more people in this country; not everything this little piece of shit said is false.
It’s pretty scary how much this little whack job gets right. The problems he seems to be having are problems a lot of people are having. His solution is wrong of course but the problems are real ones.
Ummm….what?
The Protocols of the Elders of Zion is well established as a forgery. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Protocols_of_the_Elders_of_Zion
I know that; so was the “Donation of Constantine.” People in the millions still read them, though. And take actions accordingly.
Thanks Nick! The importance of showing the inability to empathize or connect with people who are different from him gives real insight into the understanding of just how twisted this young man had become. Sure his actions spelled that out in the end, but I can not help but wonder why no one who saw the direction this guy was headed did anything to stop him or redirect his path.
This also shows how little any background check can do, since this twisted, evil, little man bought a gun and used it for his own ends. There is no background check possible on the contents of your heart.
“This also shows how little any background check can do”
Yep. Obama wants to use these murders to further his gun grabber goals; to me, it’s clear evidence of the futility of gun control. Even when the bad guys “play fair” (i.e., buy direct from a proper gun shop), the system still can’t stop them. It’s evidence in favor of the position that all gun control laws do is harass honest gun owners.
It’s the jooz fault. And the vets. Jebus, what a fuck head.
What you’ve just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
You shouldnt publish this. At most, point a link or give a brief summary where you give your own opinion of his words. This kid was a psychotic monster and his word dont deserve to be read. The readers of this blog dont care about this losers opinion, but we like reading your opinions which add value to social events.
I agree with publishing it but think it would have been much better with some comments thrown in once in a while like some of the other articles. Maybe Nick thought it best to let the comment section take care of that part.
Stop this. Stop giving him what he wants.
He already got what he wanted — nine dead bodies, including old ladies.
Supposedly, what he really wanted a race war.
Don’t think he’s going to get that.
Delete this rambling BS forthwith, I say.
If posting this murdering psychopath’s rant somehow served a purpose in elevating a social conversation, I’d see the point.
Instead all it proves is that there’s a place for the state-mandated firing squad -a fact we knew the moment CNN reported this turds actions.
Another hoax to provoke an emotional response.
Hates the Jews. Hates the American flag. Hates patriotism. Those are some strange “conservative” beliefs.
If legitimate, this manifesto clearly demonstrates that Roof is merely a sociopath with an addled brain, neither left nor right. He sees nuggets of truth, but by the time he filters reality through his sick, twisted mind, that truth is no longer recognizable.
And I have no problem with TTAG publishing his words. It is important to understand that such people exist, to understand how they think, and to understand that no law or government action can stop such people from perpetrating their evil intent.
This is pretty close to my thoughts on the matter as well.
You forgot hates to get a damn job and take personal responsibility for his own socio-economic advance. Another poorly raised person resulted in no personal responsibility or moral compass….druggie criminal.
Publishing Storm roof’s manifesto is fine so all can see the wonders of his thoughts. This is no worse than publishing copies of Mein Kampf and other great literary works by the giants of intellect from our time.
Pretty close to my thoughts as well. Mr. Roof flirted with a reasonable thought for about 5% of his little essay but obviously instead of turning to some sort of uplifting conclusion or solution, he chose to waste 9 lives to no purpose. That he thought he would actually ignite a race war gives weight to his idiocy. Make no mistake, their are plenty more Roofs out there, he’s just the one who took racism to the far end of the spectrum. Other than someone turning him in (which they didn’t), there really is no cure for this type of violence short of societal brainwashing and sedation. Evil will always exist, it is up to us to prevent it from manifesting itself at the point of contact.
Liberal media is creating a narrative around this vile little creature. That narrative is going to be generalized to the POTG. Countering that narrative is going to require facts about him.
Yes.
Agreed. As someone else pointed out, people are going to be claiming he’s a conservative or this or that in order to push through some agenda; claims easily countered if you actually read the thing.
I’m sick to death of hearing about Rachel Dolezal and this Roof idiot. I live in Spokane and currently we have Rachel Dolezal oozing out our tail pipes. As if that’s not bad enough, now we are subjected that murderous morons idiotic ramblings. Thankfully I only read enough to immediately recognize the idiocy of it.
If there is a positive light to it, it serves to enforce what a total nutter butter he is and redirect some of the focus away from the gun issue.
Everyone knows we can’t keep all the guns away from the nut cases all the time.
“Everyone knows we can’t keep all the guns away from the nut cases all the time.”
You’d think. Sadly, I know better.
*sigh*
The kid is obviously a complete racist loon, but I find some of his points interesting in that he highlights how divide and conquer tactics are utilized by a ruling elite to play various groups (in this case races) against each other. It surely worked against him because he went off the deep end and walked right into the trap.
During my lifetime I grew up never really thinking much about race or seeing/encountering very many racial issues, but since Obama took office, racial issues have EXPLODED onto the scene and I don’t really think that is a coincidence.
The ruling tactics being used today are tried and true because human nature does not change.
If you care about a race, care about the Human Race. Everything else is just noise used to distract you.
Not only does he fall into the “race is everything you need to know about a person” trap, he recognizes that he has been lied to by the mainstream media — and promptly buys into every bit of nonsense spouted by the white supremacists. “I’ve been betrayed! — so I will now completely and utterly believe what this new guy tells me.”
Why are you giving this loser the publicity he probably craves?
He should disappear from everyone’s memory.
All of these types of shooters should be ignored.
The main stream media is never going to do that.
That being the case, we should do our best counter their efforts by pointing and laughing at these losers. A lot of them think they are all-powerful and important because they get a lot of camera attention, but in reality the only power they have it given to them by the media that uses them for profit. I think so many of them suicide because, in their heart of hearts, they understand this, and realize that the brief spate of attention is not worth the long lonely years in prison that will follow.
They know the power is an illusion, but they’re so pathetic they go for it anyhow.
I’m not reading the delusions of some fvcking psychopathic child. Bad form in posting this article. I don’t care what he said. I’d prefer these mass-shooters had their names, faces and personal details redacted so that the other attention whores out there won’t follow suit.
Agreed. Although I think it isn’t just that the media talks about them, but that the media glorifies them. Instead of treating them as an idiot with a gun, who could have been easily stopped by someone else with a gun, and who is just like other guys who were stopped by *unarmed* people (which is the fate of a surprising percentage of actual and potential mass murderers), they treat mass murderers as powerful beings who have the control of life or death, and make them the center of discussions on everything from bullying to mental health to gun control.
If they presented it more like, “Here’s another loser who couldn’t find anything better to do with his life than kill people. Like any other coward, he targeted the weak,” I suspect we’d have fewer mass murderers. Right now, the media strongly encourages nutjobs who want attention and power to go the mass murder route, because it’s just about guaranteed fame.
Hobbitmom +1
Inclusion of this content on this site is a huge disappointment.
So you do not want to know anything about what may have motivated this man to do what he did, or others who may be like him? You really believe that continued ignorance of this sort of evil within the community is the right answer?
And if the answers to the above are NO, where do you think would in fact be a more appropriate place for such information to be disseminated, and would you go there and read it?
No! Crazy is crazy. Unless someone is a mental health professional tasked with making a clinical diagnosis, all the rest of need to know is he’s nuts. It serves ZERO purpose reading it unless your morbid curiosity overwhelms you. They have their man. It’s not like reading Ted Kaczynski’s (unibomber) manifesto prior to him being identified. The purpose of releasing it was in hopes someone would recognize something, which as fortune would have it, Teds brother did read it and recognized portions of his writings. Here, we have no need.
As I stated in an earlier comment, short of plainly pointing out he’s a racist freak who unlawfully obtained a firearm, there’s little use in reading anything he has written. IMHO
It’s sad to see how many of you are scared of a letter.
On another note, how many of you live in the south and experience black people everyday? Did anything he say about black people hold any truth?
You can’t be serious.
I am serious.
hoo boy….
What was that I said about reasonable, sane, intelligent and God-fearing again?
Tom
You can’t stereotype a whole race. For every Welfare Queen there is a Ben Carson, pediatric neurosurgeon. Sure there are blacks in the south with a chip on their shoulder and an entitlement mentality, but there are those types of all races. I dare say Mr. Roof had a bit of entitlement mentality as well.
Is anything he said about black people right? Sure, I guess. In about the same way that a broken clock is right twice a day. I grew up in an all white suburb of Atlanta and our HS sports region had a few all black inner city schools in it. And yes, there were black kids who hated us for the fact that we were white. And there were kids at my school who hated them for being black. However, there is one common trait between both groups of hateful people. They were all idiots. Knowing the white kids well, I can tell you they could barely write. The hateful black kids could barely speak English. But my no means is it the entire group, or even a large minority portion of the population.
The first time I ever heard someone differentiate between blacks and the n word was a black guy in the gun store I worked in during college. The real difference in the South is what another poster commented. It’s socioeconomic issues. There is no real difference between the blacks and whites who all share the same socioeconomic and education status. They are typically stupid, and hate anyone who is successful. Across both races the opposite is the same. The vast majority are hard working folks. And we all tend to despise lazy, worthless folks of all races.
Race really doesn’t make that big of a difference to most folks here who are educated and hard working. I’ve heard Atlanta described as the “city too busy to hate,” and in my experience it is.
Wow, that was a lot to peck out on a phone.
Thanks for the reply. Most people on here seem to scared to say anything about it. They just want to delete the letter from history and act like nothing ever happened. It will happen again if we can’t discuss it and figure out why.
Maybe he had a valid point in his ramblings, maybe he didn’t. If we don’t discuss it we’ll never know. I live in the south, and I’ve definitely seen some of the things he’s described about the “races” listed. I don’t think violence was the answer though. All he accomplished was creating more hatred toward white people.
(Most evolutionary biologist concur that race is a human construct and not a thing that actually exists in our evolutionary tree.)
I stand by my original suggestion….. drop him in a very deep hole and then forget where the hole is. THen put him in the history books as simply ‘the killer who shot 9 people in a church, was tried, convicted, then executed.’
WTF?? Definitely lost some respect for TTAG today.
He is one confused man-child.
Got that right. He turned 21 with the disturbed emotional maturity of a 12 year old.
I have to wonder if I owned a gun store, would I sell to this guy?
Knowing I can be a real dick-wad, I have to believe it’s likely I would have told him to kick rocks.
Seems pretty well written for a high school dropout. I wonder if he borrowed a lot of it from elsewhere. Why publish it here, though? Maybe a link to the home page of the originating website would do. I don’t like publishing the meandering musings of a murderer.
Thanks TTAG for putting this information out. The mid stream media would not. His observations on crime in America and Europe are verboten to speak about. Also his observations about white guilt, race relations in America are verboten to speak about. It is easier to dismiss what he says because he does not like Jewish people.
He shot black Christians not jews. I will not use his name.
His parents should have named him Richard Edward………”Dick-Ed” for short
During WWII the Nazis had a magazine named Signal which was of course very Pro-Nazi and Germany. However, Signal sometimes was not all wrong in its assessments of then current events and conjecture of future events. Storm Roof’s manifesto dose have quite a bit of Mein Kampf ramblings, but there are some elements of truth it it.
Now White parents are forced to move to the suburbs to send their children to “good schools”.
I think there is more than a grain of truth to that statement and I have seen it in the East Allen County School System.
Why should we have to flee the cities we created for the security of the suburbs? Why are the suburbs secure in the first place?
That really is a neat question, is it not?
The event that truly awakened me was the Trayvon Martin case. If I had a son he would look just like Trayvon. No race baiting there!
Yet every White person is treated as if they had a slave owning ancestor. This applies to in the states where slavery never existed, as well as people whose families immigrated after slavery was abolished. Well, a lot of whites are treated as though their ancestors did own slaves which is why radical black authors and leaders proclaim white reparations to those who ancestors were slaves. I wonder if whites whose ancestors served in the GAR can claim reparations upon blacks?
The reason for this is that White culture is world culture. Maybe Anglo-Saxon culture became a sort of world culture.
One question I do have is that a TV show exists which is titled Blackish, but we do not have an equivalent White racial themed show?
What about White equivalents of Black Organizations?
I can hear the PC howls now.
+1
Of COURSE the kid is a murdering piece of shit but those are some of the things he said which either ring true or ARE true, no matter how much it’s unpleasant or distasteful. I’m old enough to remember the busing “crisis” in Boston, a crisis engineered by libtard SJWs and lawyers and judges. While poor black and white kids were forced out of their neighborhood schools and put through a violent ringer for months and then years, the rich libtards and the lawyers and judges sent THEIR kids to nice private schools in the suburbs.
And since the 1960s we’ve seen the busing crises and the urban “redevelopment” nightmares which have sent white people in full flight.
But unfortunately, the lefties in the media and government are now gonna tar us all with this kid’s psychoses and beliefs, so be prepared; it’s already started. We’re all like this guy, just clinging bitterly to our guns and our religion and just itching to massacre minorities.
Why are the white folks fleeing the cities in the first place? Blacks make up 12% of the total population and yet to hear some comments here, including the ones by the killer himself, they’re everywhere and overwhelming the poor, helpless whites. A lot of white flight was not out of fear of crime, but because when that first black family moved in the white folks there decided they couldn’t share a neighberhood with “those ” people.
Slavery was gone before my time. But I have been in the south during the days of segregation. It was just a bare notch above slavery and only began to end during my lifetime.
We ignore human nature, feelings and emotions when we try to blow off slavery as something that is dead and gone and we shouldn’t get upset about it anymore.
How long will emotions run high over the blight of slavery? I don’t know. Maybe we should ask some jews how long they’re gonna hold a grudge against the nazis. After all, many of them weren’t born when the crimes occured.
Well I skimmed this POS punks rant. Hilarious that bowl-boy has a muscle shirt with no muscle. I see no problem posting this either. I also guess I am at the top of the list as a “shameless race mixer”. AND it doesn’t matter if we mention bowl-boy’s name-the left media will never quit naming it. Have fun going to hell after you’re executed…
Delete this crap. Now before someone with a low IQ and a vendetta to rationalize becomes a copy cat. I love this site I really do but this should not be shared.
+1
If the publishing of someone’s writings (freedom of speech) is going to cause someone to commit murder then does the availability of firearms (right to keep and bear arms) cause the same thing? It’s the fool, not the tool.
Besides, a wannabe copycat could read the same and even worse at places like Stormfront.
Actually, when i saw the first picture of Storm Roof sitting, I thought he was taking a poo on the potty.
When we talk of manifestos from wackos, my distinct impression is that they are worthless. So all you people worrying about copycats please relax, its not going to make a difference, because these sick people only read whatever reinforces their belifs anyhow.
A good point is the manifesto of the Oslo bomber wich actually contains a real bomb recipie, as he fixed the one in the anarchists cookbook. But still no bombs have blown in europe lately becase of this.
I also belive it is healthy for us down to earth kind of fellows to get to know what kind of madness there is out there. Another important point is that if these kind of documents gets torn a new a*****e in public, it might make some fanatics see the logical inconsistencies of their beliefs.
So I support Nick in publishing this!
+1
Exactly.
And I see from the collection of posts so far, that we’re roughly split between those in favor and those against, which is reflective also of the major split in the country as a whole on a bunch of other issues.
Aye. Good comment.
I don’t believe this is the writings of Roof. The grammar is too good for a ninth grade repeat dropout.
Stupid and violent. Stupid. Like looking to hate groups for your info? Violent. Like shooting innocent, law-abiding worshippers to get back at an entire race you hate because older bigots told you their truth? I agree with publishing stuff like this. You need to understand diseases and vermin to control or destroy them. Roof, you fell into the key methodology used by hate groups. Odd thing is, the ethnic and racial gangs the bigots hate use the same techniques. What a sad little fool. Did you know most “lone wolf” killers are sexually dysfunctional? Hey Roof… guess what we know about you?
I hope there was no motivation on The Truth About Guns’ part to get pageviews by posting a controversial post that would generate many comments. In this case I would consider it socially irresponsible and unproductive.
Somebody had to publish it.
There is nothing wrong with publishing his name or his story.
Furthermore, he is not the usual spree killer (homicidal rage followed by suicide for attention). His goal was not to get caught. He even fled to North Carolina. He had further plans.
what an idiot.
I’m glad it was posted. There is no benefit to ignoring the fact that these types exist and knowing what motivates them.
This guy took a few bits of truth and wove his hate around them. I don’t think he is crazy, I think he is a sociopath who didn’t give a rip about consequences. He was a druggie dropout with no future.
It’s good to know there are people like him out there. Reminds you why many here carry to protect their families from bad people.
Sad he wasn’t stopped the second he pulled out a gun.
+1
The truth about guns. You guys lived up to your name. Awesome. Glad you published it. Sun Tzu said know your enemy. Roof is the enemy.
Sad thing is that is rant is not indicative of mental illness. It is his political view on paper, the same views as many people I work with, the guy down the street, the dude that sold me my house, etc. It’s the same bull that fuels on the racist stories on Fox News. It’s pretty sickening. And now I have to defend my right to bear arms because these racist, murderous ass clowns like Zimmerman get to take center stage again. Good thing some of us are not willing or weak enough to bury our heads in the sand in these issues. Good on you for publishing this stuff. You guys have guts and I respect it.
Are you ignorant of the facts, willfully in denial of those facts, or too stupid to understand those facts? After this long, there can be no other alternative.
Zimmerman lawfully used deadly force in self-defense, and a multi-year FBI/DOJ investigation found not a single shred of evidence that Zimmerman was racist – just the opposite, in fact, for anyone who knew him.
Yeah, I have a FL CCP. When you chase after someone and get involved in a fight, it is no longer stand your ground. Good law (stand your ground), which I wish was a federal law. Fracked up legal system. Zimmerman is a racist murderer. Since I’m “stupid” I can only guess you are too uneducated to have any critical thinking skills. Hopefully you’re just a tough-talking poser and don’t have any weapons, because the last think we need is another ass clown with a gun making poor decisions on the street that put my rights on the line along with the lives of everyday human beings.
Doubling down, I see.
Zimmerman didn’t “chase after” anyone, and he didn’t get “involved in a fight”. He was assaulted.
Zimmerman didn’t pursue, approach, or verbally accost Martin. Even if he had, none of those acts is unlawful, and none of those acts would have forfeited his statutory justification to use deadly force in self-defense.
Zimmerman was somewhere he had every right to be, acting completely lawfully, and was assaulted. SYG was a non-issue, and not ever invoked as part of his defense. Ine must have means and opportunity to retreat. Martin was straddling Zimmerman and actively preventing escape. Thus, SYG did not apply. It was a case of simple self-defense.
If you have evidence that Zimmerman is a racist, present it. I’m sure the DOJ would appreciate the information as well.
So again: do you not know the facts, do you choose to ignore the facts, or are you too stupid to understand the facts?
Just don’t name the bastard. How about Manifesto of the most recent scumbag domestic terrorist.
Kudos for posting. Hiding from the truth as twisted as it may be accomplishes nothing. You cant cover your eyes and say “if I don’t see it, it never happened.”
Hate is a thing. Publishing this serves as a reminder that everyone needs to take personal responsibility for their safety, for no other reason that someone, somewhere hates you and under the right circumstances may try to kill you.
BLACKBALL HIS REAL NAME. HE IS THE “CHURCH SHOOTER”
A quick Google search on part of the text shows that The New York Post, The Blaze, Gawker and many other news websites and blogs have published all or parts of this manifesto. This is not unique to TTAG.
Anyone saying this shouldn’t be brought to light are just cowards that are afraid that SOME (not all) of the things he says may be correct.
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