Chicago Officially Surpasses 2015’s Homicides and Shootings Totals

1. Gun control has pretty much nothing to do with it, considering:

   1. The vast majority of the killings are gang on gang violence.
   2. The killings have gone up since the FCCA was passed in mid-2013 which, for the most part, removed Chicago’s gun control.

   • Correct. Given that the CDC study of 2010 and 2011 gun homicides in the US determined that 80% were gang-related and most gang members use illegally-obtained and owned guns, gun control has absolutely nothing to do with it.
     Which is why California despite its draconian gun regulation but with it’s substantial gang problems, has a higher per capita murder rate than…WA, OR, ID, MT, UT, TX, WY, ND, and SD and it tied with AZ.

     • Can you link/cite that CDC study with the 80% figure? I’ve seen it quoted specific to several metropolitan areas such as Chicago, NYC, and LA. However, I’ve searched high and low, and cannot find said study saying that it’s a national figure.

       • Potential source here. http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/2378073
         But this is quoting the Chicago Police Commissioner (CPC). Maybe this is like a game of telephone where the CPC morphed into the CDC?

       • Sc, that’s still a quote related directly to the city, not a national statistic.

       • Do something, anything Illini-Zim! Do your thing!

     • Seriously, people need to stop posting this without a source. No one ever posts a source to back it up.

       Google fu brings this: http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm6103a2.htm?s_cid=mm6103a2_w#tab2

       But has no indication of the 80% claim.

   • “The killings have gone up since the FCCA was passed in mid-2013 which, for the most part, removed Chicago’s gun control.”

     You don’t really expect the result of decades of societal/legal efforts demonizing guns and gun owners to simply flip like a light switch do you? Think of it more like your oven. If you’ve had it on 475 degrees for two days, you wouldn’t expect the internal temperature to be 70 degrees 5 minutes after you’ve turned it off would you? Chicago will take years to overcome the effects of their policies. That’s why it’s important to chose well on election day.

     • That’s my point, though… what is there to overcome from past policies?

       When there was strict gun control, gang members were killing gang members will illegal guns.

       Now that most of that gun control is gone and private citizens can legally conceal and carry, gang members are still killing gang members with illegal guns.

       • The problem is that the average person will only see, removed gun control, gun murders up, guns bad.

       • They won’t be taken seriously, since those factoids only apply to the real shit-holes of the country, specifically Chicago. Everywhere else, crime goes DOWN when more guns arrive.

     • “chose well on election day” Like that is going to do anything, Do you have any idea how politics work in Chicago. The only way has a chance to change is to get Madigan out of power. And how are you going to do that exactly. How are you going to convince the 22nd District to elect someone else? Blagojevich did not go to jail over Obama’s Senate seat, he went to jail because he pissed off Mike. Why would anyone vote for a local republican representative? They are not going to be able to do anything. That is like having a green party Congressman, good luck getting stuff done for you district. In Chicago, if you had a Republican alderman, goo luck getting you streets plowed in winter. The only Republican alderman is from the Ward that includes O’Hare and is a freshman. They can’t withhold city services there, but I am still wondering if he will be reelected.

       • Well, it’s pretty obvious your from Illinois-istan. Howdy neighbor! I wish they’d cut this state in half!

   • So why it the world TAG so obsessed with Chicago, if anything the average person will only see that removing gun control is not a good idea.

2. Damn those lax gun laws in Indiana.

3. “Res ipsa loquitur”. (The thing speaks for itself).

   Think about it.

4. I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit.

   • Seems as though, that’s the only way to be sure!

   • Best idea I’ve heard all day! Can I add a “few” targets?

5. Maybe declaring war on the police without removing the violent criminals first, was a ill conceived notion.

6. We should just confiscate the guns from the criminals. Why do I have to think up all the smart things?

   • Let them have the guns, who cares? Just outlaw shooting people, first. Problem solved, which way to the golf course?

7. Bangers gonna (go) bang.
   Hope the next admin gets national reciprocity thru and signed

   • Confiscating their oxygen would work better.

8. Meh. Google murder/shootings in Chicago in the 70’s through the 90’s. Nearly 1000murdered in a couple years. The good folks need to arm up and protect themselves…

9. Way to go Chicago!

   #moredeadgangstersplease

   • They just need to try harder and maybe the problem would be reduced.

10. That was quick. Just last weekend it was almost there. Damm open air shooting range.

11. Aurora has some crap gun laws as well. 10 round limit. Magazine law for example.

12. “Chicago’s police chief calls it a ‘society issue’ and not a police issue.”

    Yet another fine example of politics: when events are going poorly, politicians blame others. When events are going well, politicians take the credit.

    Having said all that, the police chief is actually pretty much correct in his statement. An ugly society rears human predators who have no regard for human life. An ugly society breeds politicians who are scumbags and rife with corruption. An ugly society produces a pathetic excuse for a criminal justice system. And an ugly society keeps voting for scumbag, corrupt politicians and the members of the pathetic excuse for a criminal justice system.

13. It IS a “society issue”. Or perhaps “ethnic cleansing” The libtards love them some “ethnic cleansing”.

14. Friends in IL refer to the city as “Chicongo.”

    • I’m not sure who should be more offended by that comparison.

      • I am sure people in the Belgian Congo are deeply offended.

15. Claiming the gun laws between Chicago and Aurora are a reason for more or less gun violence seems misleading.

    The Chicago gangs aren’t in Aurora, that is the homicide rate deciding factor….

16. Put all the gangs in a secure, fenced area and throw chains & bats over the fence; let them have at it

17. Ol’Bammy must be so proud.

18. And it would have officially surpassed it earlier except chicago kept ‘finding’ homicides from last year to move the goalposts (hey, remember that death investigation we opened regarding the guy that got shot and burned up in his car? Well, now that no one is paying attention we’ll add it to the murder stat for last year)

    Remember, though, there is no evidence for the Ferguson effect, according to the media since 2015… although I think there’s a bit of disquiet growing.

19. Gun control will solve this disparity!

    Lol.

20. So… Anybody else having second thoughts about my “Send in the National Guard” solution?

    • Team Roman Gladiator Games amongst the gangs would be much more entertaining and revenue would be enhanced from spectator admissions.

21. More “We’re F’d up, we need to fix YOU” from the land of cr_p, in 3, 2, 1 . . .

    Bulldoze that thing into the lake, bulldoze the lake into Canada.

    • Gosh darn it. I sometimes go swimming in Lake Michigan at Mount Baldy.

      • Scrub good.

        At least you’ll have a peninsula to watch the Canadian smugglers from.

      • My favorite beach. But getting to it over the hill is not much fun.

22. With a record like that you need a parade. With floats and speeches and ……. shootings. Lots and lots of shootings. Oh wait they already do all that. Sorry.

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