At a town meeting, Connecticut Governor Dannel Malloy addressed a lengthy question about the Constitution State’s post-Newtown civilian disarmament legislation. Malloy sums up the challenges to the law by telling an unhappy American gun owner “you lost” (4:48). The applause greeting his summation reflects the gulf between pro-gun control voters and the tens of thousands of gun owners who’ve refused to register their firearms and, thus, become, Class D felons. Whatever you think of Malloy’s justification for “strengthening” Connecticut’s gun laws – and “not much” just begins to cover it – the Governor isn’t backing up or backing off. With the letter threatening “charges” against non-compliant gun owners, the conflict grows more ominous by the day.

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    • Here’s hoping the first shot fired to overthrow the tyrants will be with something other than a gun, just to fully impress the stupidity of their laws firmly into their skulls…

  2. He’s really starting to push his luck, isn’t he? Surely he’s not this stupid.

    Tom

      • I think so.

        There are a lot ways this goes that they will be able to spin to their favor, and such events don’t even have to occur in CT. ANYTHING that happens now that can be blamed on gun owners anywhere in the country could add fuel to this.

        • The U. S. government has a history of perpetrating “false flag” events, and they do not care one rip who dies in the process! To Fedzilla the end always justifies the means.

      • Gov. Malloy might as well have showed up with Officer Joe Kickyerdoorin at his side & announced, “Everybody, I’d like you to meet a new friend of mine!”

        He’s pointing to gun owners & saying to the CT po-po, “Let’s you and them fight!”

        Yes, I write this from the relative safety of South Carolina, a state blessed by 150 years of bad publicity.

    • An alternative is to admit that the government, in this case
      a state, is in the wrong. This is something no career politician
      will ever do. An admission would also in effect show the
      populous that they (politicians) are not only fallible but may be
      (read: are) actively conspiring against the well-being of the
      citizenry.

      Conversely, by doubling down, Malloy et al can claim that
      because the law was passed *cough legally cough* any
      infraction is the cause of ‘radicals’, ‘terrorists’, ‘anarchists,
      etc… This will give Malloy (and no doubt the Obama
      administration) an opening to declare either open or
      closet martial law and utilize the NG and/or active military
      units for “support operations”.

  3. Someone needs to ask him when he plans to start enforcing this law of which he is so pleased. Bring it, your honor.

  4. Wow…and I thought Pat Quinn was the WORST governor in America. Yeah I really think he’s pushing his luck too. Pissing off heavily armed men.

  5. Bastard. It’s not about crime. It’s about tyranny. Is this actually the United States, today?

  6. All of you gun owners who want to keep your ARs and 30 capacity mags, without being felons, come on down to Florida. It’s warmer, too!

    • While I agree, and have promoted in the past, voting with your feet, at some point someone has to make a stand.

      They came for the Jews and I said nothing, for I was not a Jew…

      • I agree. I know I’m fond of saying, “You first” when others have suggested armed resistance in the past, but those have almost invariably been over very minor encroachments on the RKBA. However, at some point, a stand will have to be made if the infringements continue, and the level of insanity in Connecticut is really close to that line, from my point of view.

        The gun roster in California is an example of my first point. An infringement to be sure, but it doesn’t render an entire class of people felons with the stroke of a pen. Infringements like the roster are the type to be fought through the courts and legislature, in my opinion, but measures that criminalize previously perfectly legal behavior like we’re seeing in CT are where active resistance begins, I think.

        At what point does it actually begin? I’d say when the saber-rattling stops and the actual enforcement begins. We’re not there yet, but I can smell the rain.

        • I’m not targeting you specifically, but I’m not willing to hop on a bus to CT today with semi-auto rifle and a stack of 30 rounders to go be the test case in court.

          And since I’m not willing to do that, I can’t fault others who won’t leave their “free” states to do it. And I can’t fault any CT resident who decides he or she has had enough and flees a state that considers them felons to a place that actually welcomes them.

      • At some point… shouldn’t that point be at a time and place with lots of allies? That would be better served in a state other than CT.

      • The more polarized we get, the harder it gets for things like this to get enacted in pro-gun states.
        If the gun owners in CT flee to Texas, Florida, Tennessee, Montana, etc. and add their support to the like-minded there, it gets even harder to pass laws like this in those states.

        At best, those in CT were (are) on borrowed time. They’re going to be outvoted, even when they’re right. Though I believe that the Constitution protects the rights of the individual against the will of the mob, I’m not sure that the courts would back me up on that. I really do respect the holdouts in CT and I’d do anything I can to offer my support, but I’m not sure they can win. My solution… live in MT, TN, FL, TX or some other state where I’d fit in.

        The key is, if you decide to vote with your feet, don’t forget why you voted with your feet.
        Though I’m socially pretty “liberal” (support de-criminalizing pot, support homosexual equality, etc.) I actually behave pretty conservatively. I’m open-minded and willing to allow others the liberty to live how they see fit, but If it really comes to it, I could live the rest of my life surrounded by some pretty conservative people and not really feel any discomfort from it. And if I have to make that choice, I’ll throw everything else I believe under the the bus to support the RKBA.
        I believe it’s that important.

  7. It’s hard not to feel like we’re tottering on some constitutional fulcrum and could very easily tip the wrong way, spilling us all into what we fear the most. If it was just one overreaching governor of one confused state, it would be easier to shrug it off. To me it just feels like a noxious snowball getting bigger and uglier by the day. Malloy is just one little bubble in a frothing sea of this shit. And now I’m out of metaphors.

    • Here’s the full quote, taken from a longer correspondence:

      “[…]What country ever existed a century and a half without a rebellion? And what country can preserve it’s liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.”

      You will notice that he included “…patriots and tyrants.” not just patriots.

    • I’d much prefer to water it with the blood of tyrants. Unfortunately it will be watered with the blood of their paid enforcers, a good number of whom probably think these laws are not worthy of enforcement but aren’t willing to put their jobs on the line. Instead, they’ll be putting their LIVES on the line.

      The audacity of this governor is insane. I read the headline and was insulted beyond measure. He. Needs. To. Go.

  9. I’m just glad I’m not in the position to have to comply with what I feel is a clearly unconstitutional law, or stand by my convictions and the heritage of our forefathers and stand up for my rights.
    Clearly, that is a difficult and uncomfortable place to be. Most people can’t pack up and move. They are in their home and that’s where they are going to stay. But asking a man to surrender his firearms is just ludicrous.
    I’m safe in my states of Washington and Arizona where my AK and 30 round mags are legal, so it’s easy to sit back and say that I would disobey the law….but that’s exactly what I would do, along with the other CT Americans who I am damn proud of and just as proud to say we are Americans.

  11. I’d like to know if this law is actually the will of the people, or the will forced upon the people.

    • It is the will of *some* people, but clearly our republic was designed to respect the rights of the minority. We are not a democracy, as much as one party wishes we were.

      That said, at BEST this is a 50/50 issue, and I believe it is tilted toward the pro-rights crowd anyways. Even if more people were pro-control, they are passive believers in gun control while we are very much active believers in gun rights. That passion means a lot.

    • Will of the people does not matter so much in this case…the law is clearly unconstitutional for several reasons.

      I believe this is one reason why they have not even tried to enforce the law in the 2.5 months it’s been active.

  13. I think Malloy doesn’t know what he’s getting into and most likely it’s gonna blow up in his face. Malloy acting this way just furthers the rebellion spirit that’s going on in CT. I’m pretty sure that as we speak, the people who got that letter are using that to start a fire in their fireplace for warmth.

  17. “If you bought it prior to the law…… the legislature said you were allowed to keep it….”

    Awww… it’s that sweet of them? They’re “letting” people keep legally obtained and owned property… until they don’t. Can’t let the proletariat have the illusion of property rights…

  18. His mental health argument is, once again, not recognizing that correlation does not equal causation. I’m assuming his map did not include Washington State….

    By all reading of DOJ statistics, crime is down.

    Now what does that have to do with creating felons out of people who were previously honest people with guns?

  20. Ms Malloy is a feckless idiot, and just the type of ass-wipe to start a war. It won’t be over until the last shot is fired.

  21. This is what happens when a liberal is LOOSING the fight. They get confrontational. That is why we need to apply more pressure now.

  22. It’s great to live in a gun friendly state. I had a blast today at the range. Did have to stop shooting for a bit though because the guy next to me pulled out his Barrett M107 semi-auto to shoot a few .50 rounds at 1000 yards and the blast from the comp could have blown my rifle off the bench! The muzzle blast shook the tin roof! Downrange the normal “puffs” of dirt smoke were more like explosions – COOL.

    Today there were people shooting full auto, lots of WWII guns and really cool custom tactical .308 sniper guns, with folding stocks and all.

    Again, great to live in a gun friendly state.

  23. Well he’s right. They won and the people of Connecticut seem to want these laws. No arm of the government or the courts is willing to aid the gun owners of Connecticut, so short of fighting it out I really don’t see anything they can do.

    If I was a voting man I would bet that the gun owners lay down and turn in their arms.

  24. What we are seeing play out is blow-back from a massive fail in the Supreme Court’s pre-Heller era to protect 2nd amendment rights, from 1866 to 2007, but especially from 1934-2007. Now they are playing catch-up (and doing a fair job of it, so far) on the 2nd amendment. I can only hope they take the next steps very soon.

    The complexity of regional population differences and the shear number of politically important issues has made the “representative” nature of two-party politics fail again and again in the last thirty years. A governor can be elected in what is barely a two-man race, and based on labor and spending issues, but then claim (they habitually do, as do presidents) that the election gives him a popular mandate to crush fundamental rights, which is nonsense. The Court needs to extend and clarify 2nd amendment fundamentals rapidly both to protect the constitutional right and to take de facto renegotiation of the Bill of Rights out of the majority-takes-all electoral battles over spending/budget priorities and other liberty issues.

      • I could edit just fine and then the site started appearing very slow on my end… then I could not edit. Now, I believe that I can edit fine; no updates happened on my XP netbook.

        Generally, I’m not prone to paranoia, however, this site was acting very slow and strange from my perspective in the wee hours last night/this morning.

  25. Yeah? We lost dickhead? Well if Malloy wasn’t an idiot I’d spend time telling him about others that “lost”. Folks like the ancient Brits against Rome. The Christians who survived 2000 years of various loses. Of George Washington who lost in Brooklyn NY. Or how about the US at Pearl Harbor? Etc etc…..so game on Governor.

  26. So we don’t have a constitution any longer?
    Sad day for CT. Just remember kids that elections have consequences.

  27. Soap Box. Ballot Box. Jury Box. Cartridge Box. It’s a little early to be claiming victory, malloy.

  28. Isn’t that the rhetoric Iran and all those countries use….we will wipe you out, you’re done, we are the great and powerful……god willing or Allah willing etc?
    The last thing the gov wants is for it to blow up in his face, but that’s where it’s headed and he also doesn’t want to conceded defeat.
    Personally, I’d bite the bullet and conceded that we were wrong, that we made a mistake.
    However, no doubt the governor will wait until it’s too late.

  29. Malloy is not an idiot. He’s a thug — always has been — and a gangster. The question is whether the State Police are also gangsters. My guess is that, yes, they are.

    • I sure hope you are wrong about that, I’ve got to say.

      It does seem that to a large extent, they hold the keys to this.

      You lawyer types need to start organizing legal protection for the LEO’s that go against enforcement, because the government is going to go after them for their acts of defiance.

      • Somehow the front-line cops are never the ones interviewed… at most they have to stand in back of the governor to make him look strong.

  30. I still don’t get why they can’t do some kind of emergency request like the deal with Kennedy and California based on the idea that once the property is confiscated, you can’t guarantee the property will be returned when the law is struck down. None of it makes sense.

  33. Looks like the meeting was a sham , of course probably most of the folks there were picked and chose by their political beliefs beforehand , that is how politics are done , just like most polls conducted . As for Malloy he couldn’t be elected for any office unles the area was mostly Socialists , ( Democrats ) , down here in Mississippi . Be prepared and ready. Keep your powder dry.

    • As a socialist, I have absolutely no respect for the Democratic Party or Governor Malloy. Don’t equate the two, because they do not stand for the same things.

      • It is a fact that all of the members of the Socialist Part of America (77 of them in total) are Democrats, and they are mostly in the House of Representatives. Maybe not your particular brand of Socialist, as I’m sure there are all kinds of unique sub-sets therein (and the same is true all of schools of thought), but they are in fact Socialist nonetheless.

        • Basically, yes. The congressional progressive caucus is a subset of DSA (or at least started that way). The goals of CPUSA, DSA, and DNC have a hell of a lot of overlap right now.

      • OK, I have to ask–how can a socialist support private ownership of firearms? This is a technical question, not a rhetorical one. I’m only looking for information, not a fight.

  34. Man, nice straw man argument there Herr Malloy. The citizen didn’t mention anything about crime rates in his statement, he spoke about letting violent criminals out early and failing to address mental health, while turning to law-abiding gun owners as a scapegoat for sensational crimes.

    I would have interrupted him as soon as he offered to give me some “reality” with a raised middle finger and a shout of “F*** You!” the second he had the audacity to imply that I was not enlightened enough to speak about these things.

    This man deserves no respect because he offers none.

    He. Needs. To. Go.

  37. Time to load up on Ammunition boys, break out the militia, start surveying their resources,look to cut communication networks.Start paying attention to principle’s residences,Look for dirt on Malloy as they are all dirty.Start impeachment proceedings, recalls.Start the lawsuits, get the 2nd amendment foundation involved, bury your stuff. Give that jackass as much bad press as you can muster as he is an arrogant piece of crap!

  43. These anti-liberty leftists will go as far as their constituents will allow them. So… How far will the people of New Jersey allow them?

  44. If only George Bush had done this after 9/11 and rounded up the last of the Democrats…
    Oh, wait, Malloy wouldn’t have liked that, would he?

    Someday, when he dies of old age, I hope I still care enough to visit his funeral and piss on his grave…

  46. He has won, in this state, unless the Courts stop him. This is Connecticut. Population 3.6 million. A small, rural blue state. I know a question I would have asked would have been about the whole definition of “assault weapon.” I’d have pointed out the nonsense of it, but I would also have argued that if he truly believes things like a pistol grip really make the weapon more dangerous, then why is he against AR-15s without a pistol grip? What is wrong with those?

    I’d have explained that a loophole is if a pistol grip is outlawed and then someone finds a way to make a gun with the pistol grip still. But making the gun without a pistol grip is not a loophole. You say a pistol grip makes it an assault weapon, that it’s the pistol grip and the other “military-style” features that make it a more lethal weapon, so what is wrong with the weapon without any of those features?

    • It has stopped being about the ‘gun’ along time ago…It has always been about power and control….and those that use it for THEIR benefit…of which many of them now will pay the price for THEIR folly…imho

  47. Connecticut should remember the words of one of her greatest sons….. Nathan Hale.

    He said: “I greatly fear some of America’s greatest and most dangerous enemies are such as think themselves her best friends.”

    Later, as he was being hanged by the British, he uttered these famous words:

    “I only regret that I have but one life to lose for my country.”

  48. There is no reasoning with these clowns. It is never really about “safety” it is always about “control.”

    I’m not holding out much hope for the survival of the 2nd Amendment in CT.

  49. Someday real soon anyone who conspires against the rights of the people while swearing an oath to uphold them will be GUILTY OF a Class A felony and sitting in a six by nine FULLY serving a 25 to life sentence.

  50. This ahole is extremely dangerous. Having seen his q&a videos and other media forays, it’s plain to see this man is a threat to every free man.

  51. If the governor needs more persuasion burn Connecticut to the ground. Make the news and turn peoples heads around, message becomes quite clear when you inflict mayhem upon the state. Send out a message to King Obama, if he want to make us a criminal for owning our AR-15,become a criminal

  52. As I see it , any deaths caused by the state politicians requiring enforcement of their edicts..will be on their heads and all will be targeted for accountability….and responsibility…they own it along with the consequences……..imho

  53. It has stopped being about the ‘gun’ along time ago…It has always been about power and control….and those that use it for THEIR benefit…of which many of them now will pay the price for THEIR folly…imho

  55. To the writer. the video has to be watched to get your facts straight. I am the person who posed the question. That room was obviously stacked in favor of Malloy. No applause were heard or made when Malloy made the comment about “guess what? you lost”. which is about as childish as saying “na na na na na na, you lose”! it was a totally valid question. The commentator on this story left out the part where I asked “you cut 25 million dollars from mental health care. Such care, would be able to identify another Sandy Hook / Adam Lanza”. as usual, a story is alwaysskewed

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