“A would-be victim says his concealed carry gun was the reason a criminal’s intentions were stopped cold. He says investigators told him it’s possible the man who tried to rob him Saturday night could have robbed others this weekend.” That’s how Danny Black of Milwaukee described what happened to him Saturday to fox6now.com when he was out for a walk with his girlfriend, Julie, and he had to make use of his newly granted concealed carry rights . . .
The two were walking their dog when a van pulled up. The driver racked the slide on his pistol and demanded Julie’s purse.
Black says his heart began to pound, but it wasn’t the adrenaline that helped him through. He credits his own firearm. Black has a concealed carry permit, but hoped to never even threaten to use his weapon in public. “Me pulling a gun out saved both of our lives last night. I pointed the gun at him and he said, what was I doing, and just drove off,” Black said.
And all without firing a shot. It would appear that Black has the Wisconsin state legislature and governor to thank now that he and his fellow cheddarheads can carry a concealed weapon. Legally, that is. The miscreants have pretty much carried them all along.
Black says this incident should serve as a reminder to Wisconsin criminals that the victims they target may no longer be as defenseless as they may have been before the concealed carry law took effect in the state. “There are thousands of people like me, carrying guns, so them looking for easy targets – that’s all over now. That’s not going to happen anymore,” Black said.
Truer words . . .
That’s what it’s all about, getting the swamp of habitual perps to give it up. If they can’t give it up they can at least live on the starving edge until they jack up the wrong person.
Great story. Too bad he didn’t kill that driver. With a gun pointed at his girlfriend, he was certainly within his rights. And society would have been that much better. But I wasn’t there and I’m glad for the safe ending for the walkers.
Actually, anytime a citizen can protect themselves without taking on the role of judge, jury, and executioner, they also preserve the rule of law. And that’s what we want, right?
Perhaps. Perhaps we want the driver dead.
That may be what you want – but then you’ve got a murder / homicide investigation and the guy gets the luxury of living like a pariah for the next 3 years. If there was someone else in the car, they will invariably testify that the little angel was doing no more than pulling up to the victims to ask for directions and the guy shot without provocation.
If you can pull your gun and end a threat without shooting a shot, do it. It might just save your freedom and wealth.
I think displaying a gun to an armed bad guy without showing immediate intent to inflict violent action is an invitation to get shot first.
If somebody racked a gun on you, would you assume he would be intimidated or coerced into shooting if you displayed your gun? Which would be the safer line of thought?
While the end result in this particular instance was good, it could have easily ended in an assault or homicide where there was supposed to have been a robbery. My two cents to ccw permit holders is; know the right time to intimidate and when to take action.
“where there was supposed to have been a robbery.”
WTF!
Let’s try this instead:
“Where there was supposed to be two people peacefully walking a dog.”
It’s way too easy to Monday morning quarterback a situation like this, so I am going to say I am glad that it turned out well for him and leave it at that.
I’ll second that. A happy ending is when the good guys get to go home safe and sound, and the bad guys don’t get what they wanted.
Agreed.
So that’s another two lives saved by concealed carry. This story isn’t going to get the attention that the Zimmerman/Martin story is getting, but this is the day in/day out reality of armed self defense, the 99%, if you will. A law-abiding citizen is threatened, he or she pulls a gun to defend themselves, they go on living to tell the tale. Often, as in this case, without firing a shot.
It’s a “Happy Ending” for them…
But what about the NEXT person???
It could be your wife or daughter.
When you point a gun during a crime, you give up your right to a judge and jury. You go straight to lethal force in defense of innocent life.
Your responsibility is to yourself and your family. If the guy drives off, okay. If the guy turns around and runs away, don’t shoot him in the back. There’s such a thing as trying to do too damn much. It’s not your responsibility to preemptively “take out” guys before they get someone else.
I wasn’t there to see the subtle nuances of what happened. For me, that is when I become the best witness the police ever had. Part of training for me is to consciously look at and remember details of people in the area, what time it is, time elapsed during an event, color of clothing, tatoos, etc. My primary responcibility is to protect my family, if the bad guy leaves in a hurry because I did my job right, my family is safe, then I’m a winner. I’m not going out of my way to kill people just because I can. That makes me a predator like them, even if the law might back me up. I will shoot someone if I have to, and I will shoot to kill, and I have trained to know when I might have to do that, but I also have to live with my decision and sleep at night.
“The driver racked the slide on his pistol and demanded Julie’s purse.”, Doesn’t that mean that the criminal had his pistol already loaded ready to fire before Danny Black pulled his firearm out of his concealed holster? I am all for concealed carry but it seems to me that he should have given up the purse rather than risk a gun battle where the opposition already had the upper hand.
Then why carry at all? Black’s GF could have handed over her bag and both of them could still get shot. Do you really advocate trusting an armed robber to be a nice guy?
Personally, I think the prep had no bullets (or it wasn’t a real gun) and racked the slide for the intimidation factor. I mean really, if you were going to rob someone, wouldn’t you be prepared and have a round already chambered?
He was a safety-minded criminal carrying Israeli-style.
Mark N., the same thought crossed my mind.
Robbers often don’t want a shootout even though they approach the store clerk or street victim with a gun. They expect the gun to work magic and turn victims into jello. Some of them will shoot, some not. Some will shoot even after they get what they want. The DGU person’s role is to discourage all of them from continuing their line of work.
It was pretty bold move, that’s for sure. Maybe the BG wasn’t actually aiming at him, just waving the gun around, but still.
I don’t think I would have had the guts. As for Ralph’s question, my gun is for when the evil dude tells my *wife* to get in the van- that’s when the lead starts flying. He can have the purse.
Black says this incident should serve as a reminder to Wisconsin criminals that the victims they target may no longer be as defenseless as they may have been before the concealed carry law took effect in the state. “There are thousands of people like me, carrying guns, so them looking for easy targets – that’s all over now. That’s not going to happen anymore,” Black said.
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Well said.For every incident we publicly discover, there are likely tens of incidents where the same thing happened and both parties went their separate ways without involving the police.Untrained folk may believe that since nothing was robbed and no one was shot, there’s no reason to call the cops. No police response, no documented incident and no way for the situation to ever be counted statistically.
Too bad the dog couldn’t have “taken a bite out of crime,” too!
I’m glad the couple is OK and I hope the bad guy is still having bowel spasms.
I wonder if they got a description of the perp and the van with plates?
This guys lucky he doesn’t live in MA, because he’d be arrested for scaring the poor bad guy. He’d also get sued by the BG if the cops ever caught him.
“There are thousands of people like me, carrying guns, so them (criminals) looking for easy targets – that’s all over now. That’s not going to happen anymore,”
Another one for my list-o-quotes.
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