The burgeoning Second Amendment sanctuary movement in Virginia seems to have shaken Old Dominion Democrats. So much so, in fact, that they’ve come up with a brilliant scheme to try to blunt its momentum.
From the Virginia Mercury . . .
[T]he proposed ban on particular types of firearms — and the prospect of criminal charges for gun owners who didn’t give them up — seemed to stoke the strongest outrage in the 40-plus rural localities that have declared themselves Second Amendment sanctuaries within the past few weeks. Of the dozens of bills already filed for the session that begins in January, (incoming Senate Majority Leader Dick) Saslaw’s assault weapon bill was the most-read, according to the state’s online legislative system.
Some Democrats had already suggested that the assault weapon bill drawing the most attention may not turn out to be the final product.
Don’t worry, they still plan to enact an “assault weapons” ban and outlaw the sale of scary, especially assaulty looking firearms. But rather than attempting to outlaw possession — i.e. requiring Virginians to destroy/dump/turn in the guns they don’t like — Governor Ralph Northam now says he’s open to grandfathering the guns Virginians already own.
The Northam-backed plan mirrors the federal assault weapon ban passed in 1994, which included a grandfather clause for weapons that were legally owned when the legislation was enacted. The federal ban expired in 2004.
The seven states that have enacted their own assault weapon bans all grandfathered in pre-existing weapons, according to the Giffords Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence.
Northam wants everyone to know that he’s really a big Second Amendment guy at heart.
“I’m a supporter of the Second Amendment. I grew up hunting and fishing,” Northam told reporters Monday morning at an event unrelated to gun policy. “Really what we’re trying to do in Virginia… is we want to make our streets, our communities safer.”
But don’t look for this “compromise” ban to placate gun owners.
In an email to supporters Monday, the Virginia Citizens Defense League, the staunchly pro-gun group fueling the gun sanctuary movement in the state, said Saslaw’s bill was “a bridge too far” and was likely to be swapped out for something that included a grandfather clause. But the group made clear that it will continue to oppose any assault weapon ban and reject anything presented as a compromise.
“Who are WE to negotiate away the right of future generations to own AR-15s, or their equivalent, and magazines of whatever capacity they want?,” the VCDL email said. “Who are WE to give away the right of future generations to protect themselves from criminals or from a government that’s gone tyrannical, just so we can selfishly have our guns and magazines now?”
More than 40 Virginia counties have announced that they will not comply with new gun control laws by declaring them Second Amendment sanctuaries. If Northam actually thinks that enacting an Assault Weapons Ban Lite gun control bill will change any minds, he’s kidding himself.
“I hear people out there saying that they don’t want law enforcement to enforce unconstitutional laws. Well we’re not going to propose or pass any unconstitutional laws,” Northam said. “So that’s something we should all agree on.”
Feel better, Virginians?
This guy is something evil.
When the dear leader proclaimed his edict, was he wearing white robes, or a blackened face?
No, he was just planning on the most “humane” method of killing full term infants…Their word is worthless, be wise support the sanctuary movement. If he’d contemplate killing full term babies and wearing white robes and blackface in during the 80s do you think it would bother him in the least to make felons of the law abiding Virginia citizenry exercising their 2nd Amendment rights?
O Massa, thank you Massa, thank you!
Let me guess….You must be talking to his black face:-)
Sic Semper Tyrannis!
THANK YOU BETO O’ROUKE!
You have done what we could not for years; you have opened the ears of gun owners everywhere.
“I’m a supporter of the Second Amendment. I grew up hunting and fishing,” Northam told reporters.
For years, decades, leftist and anti-constitutionalists would utter this magical incantation “I support the 2A” (as Gov. Blackface has done above) and then go on to detail the ways they were going to enact gun control, for your “Safety”. When all the while we knew their true intention was the removal of all arms for ‘ordinary’ citizens, leaving only billionaires and politicians security team’s with armed protection.
Have we finally broken the spell? Have their wicked ways finally been exposed? Do we owe Beto a thank you? Asking for a friend…
Dear Ralphy,
The Second Amendment has nothing to do with hunting…or fishing. Seriously, it has nothing to do with hunting…but especially nothing to do with fishing.
Patriots: The 2nd Amendment is about resisting tyrannical government.
Coonman: Comply or I’ll send in the troops.
Patriots: Our point exactly.
And once this blows over a new law actually banning possession will emerge right after the next election. Every day democratic voter take up residence in VA further diluting the Republican base at an alarming rate.
This is why constitutions are a thing.
The bill I saw introduced DOES include “possession” as part of the language that Dems are trying to enact. The Dems owe Bloomberg for all of the millions of money he put into VA to get them elected. From what I’ve read and heard, Bloomberg is now stating it is time to pay him back by making Virginia one of the strictest gun control states there is.
Virginia state government hierarchy:
Michael Bloomberg
Governor Northam
Virginia General Assembly
Swinging VA past NJ on Guns would be his crowning achievement and probably the cornerstone of his campaign next year. He’ll promise the same change for the rest of the country.
Put aside for a minute the Fact gun control has damaged several candidates already the mere suggestion he could have gun bans on the deck for the entire country is a pipedream. The pushback we see in VA would be nothing like the rest of the US.
And what would happen next would be horrible.
Besides he’s not nearly as generous as Bernie or Liz with OPM.
You are correct about OPM, heard on the radio that Bloomberg loves China and how they are able to CONTROL their population……seems he is showing his true Communist colors
Pull off the clan hood and he’s wearing blackface.
He realized the legislature turned the heat up in the pot too fast.
SB16 still calls for a total ban, no exceptions. I think this is a ploy to to reduce the attention it gets. I’ll believe in grandfathering when I see the amendment.
And we should start a pool on what compliance rate they’ll get either. I’ve got dibs on <1%
> I think this is a ploy to to reduce the attention it gets.
Or will be billed as a friendly compromise.
> I’ll believe in grandfathering when I see the amendment.
My guess is, “if you like your gun you can keep your gun”….aaaaaaas long as it’s registered.
SEE? We compromised!
The citizen’s response should, nay, MUST be….NO COMPROMISE!!
The actual response has been “Hell NO!”
As of this morning there are 77 2A Sanctuaries in Virginia. That is over half of the counties and towns/cities in the state!
And there will be more to come!
AMEN 100%!
Oh they will grandfather, along with mandatory special registration of any “assault rifles.” Would than make you happier? They have a handful of Democrats in purple state assembly districts who will need an out.
Point is it is a road that is already mapped out in Virginia
– UBC
– Red flag
– Grandfathered AR ban grandfathered or not depending on what they can get this time around
– special registration of assault rifles
– “high capacity” mag ban grandfathered or not depending on what they can get this time around
– incremental increase in costs/difficulties in CCL
Those are easily obtainable in the VA state legislature now due to the loss of the state house and state senate. People going on marches now, and celebrating meaningless local “second amendment sanctuary” areas are absolute jackasses if they were not out there working their assess off to prevent what happened in November.
This is the census year coming up. Virginia will be redistricted by the new Democrat majority in the state house. Then they will be less afraid to put in more draconian measures:
– Non grandfathered full on AR ban
– more draconian registration and waiting periods (don’t forget that the Dem politicians in the NE are always saying Virginia is the biggest source of illegal guns)
– gun licences presentation to buy ammo
– even stronger red flag from whatever they pass now
– more restrictions on CCL
Bloomberg gave more money per capita to Dem politicians in Virginia than any other state. The goal is to make it like NJ. he made support for his gun control the litmus test for his money.
People saying “Democrats and Republicans are the same” ought to be looking at what we have seen and will see in the Va state legislature. This has already been a 99% partisan alignment fight there, and people who did not work their asses off for the GOP candidates ought the shut the fk up.
You forgot the registration lists ultimately will be used for confiscation.
How long before they turn Virginia from shall issue to may issue.
They don’t have a choice in having a carry law but may issue passes constitutional muster per the courts.
Many Republicans are the same as Dems here. Many feel that “guns for me, none for thee” is a great thing. Feeling like they are “special” has no bearing on political beliefs.
Just another “I’m a supporter of the Second Amendment. I grew up hunting and fishing” bullshitting poLIEtician….
I generally don’t use a gun for fishing.
I’ve done it. It’s a bit messy though. Not recommended…
Kinda fun though.
Try shooting carp with a .308!
Naah man, I shoot carp all the time, but you don’t want to use a 308. Here’s how you do it from an expert. You take your nondenominational 45, load it with cross cut lead hollow points, if you shoot right-handed hold a worm in your left hand fingers, dangling it tantalizing in front of carps nose (works better if you wrap worm in a dollar billl) while the carps attention is on the bait, stick the barrel of the nondenominational 45 up his ass and pull the trigger twice. If done properly, it will blow the shit right out of it’s mouth, end result, you now have a carp that looks like all politicians…
Everyone go buy more scary assault rifles now and support your local gun shops.
just did…three times…more to come soon.
This fool is a disgusting piece of shit that takes money from a scumbag like Bloomberg and then tries to remove our Second Amendment rights! This is a travesty beyond belief! “People” like him need to be removed physically from office by any means necessary when they violate our 2nd Amendment or any other rights.
I assume you will be the first to do it right keyboard commando?
Naw, you would just sit back and wait for someone else to do the hard work so you can an enjoy the fruits of their labor.
A single person wouldn’t make any sense. Coordinated efforts would be the trick to figure out. Guess that’s why militias should still be common.
That also sees unlikely in today’s times.
“Governor Coonman Says He’ll Let You Keep the Banned ‘Assault Rifles’ You Already Own”
Who appointed “Coonman” the crown”,Eff him and his Marxist Totalitarians along with him.
Revolution 2.0 is coming.
no grandfathering, no ban, ever!!!!! A revolution is coming people…..those who sit it out and allow this are no more than shit talking cowards.
I like the picture on top. He’s clearly talking out of the side of his mouth.
Don’t worry, Virginia, he’s just going to slip the tip in.
Sums it up nicely
“Well we’re not going to propose or pass any unconstitutional laws” Liar… Any attempted infringement on the 2nd amendment is unconstitutional(PERIOD)
He’s going to let you keep your property. That’s mighty sporting o him.
I see a river of black rifles and magazines pouring out of Tn and NC into Virginia, the Appalachian black market is about to explode, the logistics are already there(moonshiners) so good luck, cause we help our neighbors out
Now you’re talking.
He will grandfather them only if you register them, Like Hitler, after they are registered, they will come and take them. I don’t plan on letting anyone know what kind or how many guns I have, My wife will have a mess if I die first.
” He will grandfather them only if you register them ”
Spot on. The whole thing is a trick. Most people don’t have any proof of when they actually purchased their nasty weapons of war. So the only way to prove they are grandfathered is to register them during some kind of grace period, something that everyone (almost) will do as a way to protect their property.
And when the list is complete — BOOM — they enact a total ban on purchase and possession.
From my cold dead hands. Molon labe demoncraps
Mighty white of him.
A compromise would be dropping the assault weapons ban totally & completely.
This governor will “let” you keep your banned assault rifles? Since when did Virginians Second Amendment come from this a** hat? Last time I checked, our rights came from God, and he ain’t god by any stretch, even though he sure as hell is acting like he is. What other Constitutional Rights will he “allow” Virginians to “enjoy” when he feels like it?
But what if you’re not a sky daddy worshiper and you believe in evolution and science?
Do right not apply to you?
Some people don’t believe in gravity either, from time to time. They’re wrong, too. Usually discover that a split second before they hit the ground.
Regardless of whether or not you believe in God, the concept of Man having natural rights granted to him by his Creator supersedes the concept of us only having privileges allowed by those who claw for power.
Both the American and French Revolutions occurred at about the same time. The former was rooted in reliance upon God as the center. The latter was rooted in reliance in Man as the center.
America and her Constitution has survived to become the greatest nation in history. France has failed numerous times since then, literally re-writing new constitutions and forming new republics more than a dozen times. And it’s the laughingstock of the world.
Man, left to his own devices, will always eventually fail.
Get the rope and hang all who go against the 2nd amendment destroy them wipe them out along with red flag laws shall not be infringed is going to be come very bloody in the future. Rise up and stomp them into Hell
Until…
This grandfathering nonsense should be marketed to the millenials and zoomers who will be most affected.
Look at what the boomers are trying to take from you. Freedom for them but not for you.
Obviously it won’t resonate with the prog-tards but it might get the CoD players out of their moms basements.
Correct,under the current Constitution all ams are grandfathered,as well as all gun control/safety laws are un Constitutional.
One o too many in his last name…
thats what she said…
Just registration right Coonman?
To ease in the new law they will grandfather them first and then later they will confiscate them. They will take it one step at a time. They are following the California anti-gun two step dance.
“I’m a supporter of the Second Amendment. I grew up hunting and fishing, and some of my best friends are Negroes,” Northam said.
There are only 2 ways. Government can take Your firearms. You either give them up Willingly…They take them from Your cold dead fingers. Choosing to live as a defenseless subject is. I suppose easy. Dying for the Right to defend yourself is hard. Then again We all die. What matters is how We lived.
Reply to darkman, that is such a profound statement!! We need to push your philosophy across our great nation anywhere they try to push this agenda!!
Just another Democrat, nothing new here.
How nice of him since Article 1, section 9, clause 3 states that no ex post facto law shall be passed and the 14th Amendment makes it applicable to the states, at least since SCOTUS finally figured out what it meant.
The feds tried to feed us that” grandfathered” crap in ’94 without telling us they couldn’t take what we already owned no matter how much they wanted to.
An ex post facto law punishes people for conduct that was legal when they did it.
Changing a law to make things illegal in the future that were legal in the past is not an ex post facto law. Almost every law does that.
I have an idea i would like to share here to see if others think it is viable. What would you think about a mass of gun owners gathering up (in a “free” state first), crossing the state border into, say, California or some other state with additional 2A restrictions, and blatantly breaking state laws en masse? Think a few thousand crossing into California, setting up a makeshift shooting range, and publicly breaking the states laws while having so many armed citizens in the area that any attempt by law enforcement to persecute anybody could get very ugly very fast. And once the day is done, everybody would make a mass tactical retreat into “friendly” territory, and disperse from there.
I think at the very least such an operation could really inspire the pro-2A crowd, that once you hit the “critical mass” of armed citizens, they can not be stopped. It has been over 5 years since the last victory of the people against the government (Bundy Ranch 4-19-14, that should be a day we all celebrate IMO), and while something like what i propose wouldnt have nearly the weight of the Bundy Ranch standoff, it is at least something…
Hey i like it and if we would babd together no leo could enforce illegal. Laws Bloomberg newsom democrat pukes
It’s a great idea, but getting volunteers is going to be difficult if not impossible.
“Weeeeellll… since I probably can’t cram down a completely illegal confiscation on you just yet howabout I jam down everything just short of a confiscation and lay all of the groundwork needed for a smash-and-grab next year?” said Governor Blackface McClannyboy.
“How about you do unspeakable things to yourself” said Virginia. “And don’t walk in the woods alone, city boy. Not that anyone believes you that you’ve ever been hunting or fishing, but someone as ignorant as yourself might find out that there are a hundred ways to hurt yourself in Virginia’s forests and fields.”
“Are you threatening me?” screeched the man who believed he was emperor?
“Not at all. We’re just as concerned about your safety as you are about ours.”
Trust me baby, I’m a Doctor.
Trust me Michael, I love how you walk.
Trust me Virginians, your history is lost on me,
and you can keep your wet nuts.
Sounds familiar…..
And you can keep your doctor.
No thanks, go F yourself.
“You’ll save $2,500 a year on health insurance!”
*Gets extra $1,000 bill on taxes because you can’t afford skyrocketing cost of health insurance*
“Son of a…”
He is probably the kind of freak to say in public “I love black people, I used to eat a lot of pickles and fried chicken!” And all the brainwashing mass media would be like “yeah, but that’s not what he meant, it is taken out of context by pro Trump fascists, he is a nice guy….”
If he really supports the Constitution he’d knock off all the bullshit 2cnd amendment usurping laws. I think we’ve raised two generations of dumbasses. The ones being elected and the ones doing the electing. There probably isn’t enough diesel fuel in the world to power the D9 Caterpillars need to pull their heads out of their asses. Wonder how an eyes on view of hemroids looks?
If you could stop disingenuously saying you’re a supporter of the second amendment in a transparent attempt to manipulate idiots- or perhaps, yourself- by relating to activities that have nothing to do with why we have a right to keep and bear arms,
That’d be great.
We need more Democrats like JFK.
A genuine compliment for JFK …or referrancing is untimely removal from office?
There’s a tired old cliché where I come from, occasionally seen on coffee mugs, bumper stickers, and trucker hats at rural gas stations. It’s one that used to make me smile and chuckle at it’s anachronism. I would not have taken it seriously 20 years ago, but the way things are headed in this country and in Virginia, I’m starting to take seriously the possibility that….the South will rise again.
This time, the great cause will be preserving liberty for all.
Governor and Bloomberg are Butt buddies, witth their minions the Democrats, and the Femi-Nazi’s all trying to Feminize America so that Men are no longer men
Democrat Gov Northam is a member of the Klu Klux Klan. He is wearing his klan uniform in his college year book photograph. So of course he wants the civil population disarmed. Historically that is what the democrats KKK “military wing” has always done.
“I support the Second Amendment.” LIAR.
“Well, we’re not going to propose or pass any unconstitutional laws.” YOU ALREADY HAVE.
Typical Democrat politician.
VIA the Washington Examiner, Virginia Dems are threatening to prosecute law enforcement who refuse to confiscate weapons from citizens and use the National Guard in their place.
Not a Governor, just a worthless scumbag dictator.
Just another POS commie wanting to disarm America!
Honk honk. What a clown
How big of him. And while your at it fellow Americans, Take an extra deep breath of fresh air tonight on Governor Coonman.
And you think Californians are bad, who voted in this wack job huh?
The biggest problem this country has is STUPIDITY and it’s on both side of the isle.
Fuck, and you think the solution is somewhere in the second amendment and gun ownership?
First step: Relax sphincter and remove head-American citizens are armed to the hilt and that aint fixed nothing yet.
I’m from utah, we support the second amendment, we support virginia gun owners. I guess it’s time to start the new minutemen. When they kill the first person who don’t hand in there guns that is when the next civil war starts.
Oh, you can keep your nasty, icky rifles (but not leave them to your sons, or sell them to a friend) but you have to “register” them first. Registration ALWAYS leads to confiscation. Registration is just the first step in the dream of total citizen disarmament. First, the militarily useful arm, the very militia arms the Second Amendment was written to protect, then the sporting arms,then lastly, the self defense pistols. Resist Virginians!
Every version I have heard about a “grandfather clause” includes mandatory registration with the Socialist Republic of Virginia government. The 1994 assault weapons ban (federal) did NOT include any registration. It simply stopped the manufacture and importation of any new “assault weapons”. Registration ALWAYS precludes confiscation. Always.
“He’ll let you keep whatever you already own” lol…
Mighty kind of him I’d say!
On the other hand, so long as privatly owned firearms ARE in the hands of the people, I’m of the mind to believe he will have no say so in the matter,,,,
this will be started across this country stand up America the time of bs and unchecked criminals while we are supposed to be unarmed with no protection is ungodly by a bunch of stuges that have there own security get the dems out of office and quit letting certain races get away with everythin we white people and police are now the one being misterted by this country dems want chois that way they can hide things under the rug confusion the devils tool. bring back decency and truth and justice and fight back America against delusional people that would destroy this great nation
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