Roland, who’s retired, says this gear loadout represents his must-haves. And while he doesn’t specify the gun make, that looks like a Bersa Thunder to us. You? See what Roland won’t leave home without at Everyday Carry.
Roland, who’s retired, says this gear loadout represents his must-haves. And while he doesn’t specify the gun make, that looks like a Bersa Thunder to us. You? See what Roland won’t leave home without at Everyday Carry.
What looks like a B(e)rsa to you looks like a Walther PPK/S to everyone else.
Yep.
Both are great guns. I also like the Bersa 83, which is the all steel older version of the thunder 380.
Definitely PPK. Bersa Thunder’s mag release is in the 1911 location. Trigger guard shape is different, too.
Walther?
Walther PPK
It’s like Dan can’t even see the Walther Logo on the gun. May be Dan needs a new monitor or glasses.
Definitely a Walther, you can see the logo on the slide near the muzzle and also on the mag.
Interesting that he actually carries, or claims to carry, an Israeli bandage but forgoes a CAT or other tourniquet device.
An Israeli bandage can also be used as an tourniquet; looks like a Walther PPK.
It can be if you happen to have something to use as a windlass. I see nothing in his carry dump that suggests he has something of that nature, so I’m guessing he’s not considering using it as a makeshift tourniquet.
Adding a tactical pen would solve this problem and provide a writing instrument and a glassbreak all in one.
Tourniquets are actually overrated and have been largely discredited for domestic purposes. In a war zone… yes absolutely with mitigating factors but even then tourniquet is a last resort if medevac or casevac can’t be mobilized.
A pressure bandage such as the Israeli bandage does it all for a gunshot wound. He is smart to carry one. I do as well.
I was a CLS (40 hour trauma course every year for 5 years) in the Army and treated combat casualties and have 2 cousins and an uncle that work in EMS. As always though YMMV.
4ID:
First, off this guy is carrying a gun. That means he expects gunshot wounds. How does a gunshot wound in a mall differ from one on a battlefield? It basically doesn’t.
““Tourniquets are actually overrated and have been largely discredited for domestic purposes.” Source with statistics please. Also, provide such a source for gunshot, car accident, crush and blast victims who don’t receive EMT level medical aid in the first two-three hours.
Second, numerous other things that are common in civilian life can require a TQ. Compound fractures and other puncture wounds due to a car accident come to mind. In civvie life these types of injuries are common due to the crushing of extremities in car accidents. You’re not dealing with someone who’s arm is crushed from the mid upper-arm down with a pressure bandage or any other mixture of pressure and hemostatic agent. It requires a TQ. I’ve personally seen such an injury due to a car accident.
“A pressure bandage such as the Israeli bandage does it all for a gunshot wound.”
Unless of course it doesn’t. Trauma too big to a leg or arm where a major artery is punctured or destroyed in multiple places and you can’t find it comes to mind. So does a gunshot wound causing pneumothorax or a gunshot wound where you can’t get that bandage to stick. What about multiple serious gunshot wounds? Someone with one in the chest and one that clipped the brachial artery or another that nicked the femoral?
I’m not trashing the guy for carrying an IB, I carry them too, my point is that it’s an interesting decision for someone who’s clearly thinking about a gunfight, as evidenced by his carrying of a gun, and chooses to carry a single piece of gear like this especially in the light that he also chooses band aids, a single use hand sanitizer and some pills.
No disrespect but I’m not going to do that leg work re: sources just to validate an opinion I reached by reading numerous medical journals, text books and websites as well as practical knowledge learned treating combat casualties in Anbar and Sadr City. There is simply too much there.
Re: state statistics for gunshots, car accidents, blast injury victims that don’t get EMS level care in the first 3 hours. Where do you live? I am within 20 minutes of a trauma center everywhere I travel in a normal business week and I am in rural/suburban GA.
I will state that I have seen several men shot several times with intermediate rifle cartridges in the torso and extremities and never used a TQ. I have used multiple pressure bandages on top of packing the entry/exit wounds however to great effect.
As far as pneumothorax is concerned are you going to perform a tricky procedure on someone you just shot, an innocent bystander or yourself? All 3 seem improbable to impossible. I have performed 2.
There is a reason they call it the golden hour. If I have been shot multiple times in the torso with a pistol I still have an hour to get to a trauma center before I am in trouble. Gunshots don’t work like the movies. EMS should be able to get you there within an hour, we’re not in Baghdad here.
All that being said I do carry a pocket IFAK with me and have the knowledge to use it and so should the above pocket dumper. There are VERY limited and specific uses for a TQ but a car crash, shooting or any other common occurrence I can think of isn’t it. A terror attack/explosion? Yes. Only because that is going to be a MasCal event with lots of partial or full amputations.
YMMV!
4ID:
You don’t have to provide the stats. The fact that you bother to respond tells me you’re likely honest.
“I am within 20 minutes of a trauma center everywhere I travel in a normal business week and I am in rural/suburban GA.”
I live in Colorado but frequent places in this state and others where just getting out a call for help in a serious emergency such as a rollover could take over an hour if you’re restricted to foot and God knows how long for EMS to arrive on scene. I can think of two dozen camp sites I really like that it would be hours for them to get there because they’d either have to drive 90 minutes AND find you or land a helicopter miles away and hike in or some combination of the two.
I’m not going to get into a lengthy discussion of this because it covers way too many things all of which can be “what if’d” to death but the point remains; civilians are also susceptible to injuries that may require a tourniquet if EMS can’t be on scene immediately. Not everyone lives within 20 minutes of help or spends their whole life there. The assumption that a torniquet is “overrated” is based on the idea that help is minutes away and that the injury isn’t going to result in exsanguination within a few minutes. If one or more of those things isn’t true then that assumption goes out the window.
I’m not going to even get into the concept of a major terror attack a la Paris because again, that would cover way too much. Suffice to say in such a case SOP these days is to secure the area and search it for traps before allowing EMS in to start treatment and that takes time people who are bleeding out don’t have.
Just look at the med kit a serious gun range has. CATs, Israeli Bandages, Cellox, a decompression needle and HALO seals are standard these days.
I respect your opinion based on your CLS training, but it’s not a 1:1 correlation to civilian circumstances by any means and in neither case is rapid medical attention exceeding what’s available now a guarantee.
Again, I’m not trashing the guy, I just find it interesting he chooses to carry and IB given the other items he chooses.
Tourniquets are quite limited in their application, while, as another commenter said, pressure bandages pretty much do it all for GSWs. If I’m not looking at a severed limb or something about as dramatic, the CAT won’t even be considered.
Really, a Bersa Thunder? Turn in your firearms industry credentials. That’s a PPK or a PPK/S, one of the most recognizable pistols ever made.
Everyone has those awesome key organizers. I wish half my keys didn’t have massive plastic bases on them! Also, that’s totally a Walther banner on the slide.
Bersa? I hope that is sarcasm…
Nice Phoenix HP22A.
He has the same knife I carry! It was part of a Kershaw gift pack (along with a flashlight) sold by Walmart last Christmas. It’s pretty good for being half of a $19.95 set.
How could you not know a PPKs?
Dayum!
Guys, guys, quit joshing him; it’s clearly an AK-47.
No, it’s a glock with a 30 caliber magazine clip with armor piercing cop killer bullets.
Don’t forget the shoulder thing that goes up.
Even if you can’t see the logo, the lack of a slide stop is a dead giveaway.
Hi Point, muddaphuckers.
Everyone knows Roland carried a Thompson gun, at least until his ghost found that damn Van Owen cat in Mombassa.
“Patty Hearst, heard the burst, of Roland’s Thompson Gun and bought it.”
R.I.P., Warren Zevon…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhRRWwH3Fro
Thank you, awesome.
My playlist tomorrow is Zevon.
Since this is TTAG, here’s ‘Lawyers, Guns And Money’:
“Send lawyer, guns and money – The shit has hit the fan!”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2HH7J-Sx80
Thats definitely a glock
Wow. I haven’t been on this blog in about 6 months. I click this story first, and was immediately reminded why I don’t actually come here anymore. Nobody actually knows what they’re talking about.
No, the OP knew it wasn’t a Bersa Thunder. This was a classic “click bait” post. He wrote something stupid to generate “clicks” on the post. More clicks = more add revenue. Furthermore, he asked for comments to correct his obvious mistake. More comments = more add revenue. Stupid, no. Liar, maybe. Disingenuous, yes.
There’s lots of knowledge here. Everyone has off days.
The Walther logo is clearly identifiable. Looks to be a pre-S&W PPK/S in .380 ACP. It has the short beavertail, Extra mag is a seven rounder, and the backstrap is steel. PPK has a 6 round mag, and the plastic grip warps around the back side of the frame.
^ Bingo!
Metrosexual pocket dump. Embarrassing.
That’s not a Bersa. That’s a phased plasma rifle in the 40 watt range.
If the SHTF in our constitutional republic Farago, his money and his mercedes will be gone like the wind never to be seen or heard from again.
If
That is a mighty big “if”
I carried the Walther PPK/s in a sticky holster, appendix carry
Then my wife took it back and I got a Bersa Thunder cc with Crimson trace laser grips
I like it better as it is lighter, more rounded and has a slide release
Fits the same holster, too!
Who carries all that sh*t in their pockets?
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