Interesting if true. Then the press (by a pure lazy reporting accident) would actually have a mass shooting with an “assault rifle/machine gun/bullet spraying death machine” (last one to be found on motherjones no doubt). Side note that nobody is going to hear in the news, if this guy was a contractor, he would have had to go through much more than a NICS background check for even a basic security clearance. Not that those facts will get in the way of a good “we could have prevented this tragedy if (insert ineffective law here) wasn’t obstructed by the evil baby-killing NRA” comment from our fact-reporting “news” outlets.
When McVeigh threw his little invitational, it was quite some time before “they” started looking for anyone who wasn’t swarthy and bearded.
Let’s all assume nothing, shall we?
You mean like the Santa Monica, Ft. Hood, and Va Tech shooters? Oh wait . . .
Are those 2 pictures of the same guy?
Doesn’t look like the same guy at all.
Maybe this is why there were so many reports of two shooters.
First one probably from a very cheap mug-shot camera with a wider lens. Makes his head (and nose) look wider than they should. Wild ass guess.
The lighting used for mug shots often makes the skin look lighter as well. I would guess the right hand picture is a military ID picture. He looks like he has lost some weight, boot camp will do that.
If he was Navy it was probably his ID picture.
Texas Skinhead.
lmao
No photo of the second Blk suspect:
50 YO, 5′ 10″, 180 pounds, Long Grey Sideburns.
Green clothes and a Berret. Hard to spot that on a surveillance tape
Just described half of DC.
“Aspect Ratio” – It is so important in image editing…
I am going to go out on a limb here and guess that there is no other shooter. This was just one pissed off dude, and a lot of hysteria. Not unlike the Sandy Hook reporting. Remember the guy in the woods wearing camo? It seems damn near impossible to get a straight story when chaos is ensuing.
Idiots. wtf. Maybe ccw permits will be issued in these new found victim zones..
You know what would stop to things like this? Concealed or even open carry on a military base for all service members and not just mp’s.
Don’t leave us trained and willing civilian employees out.
Murrdog you are 100% correct,this is another Gun Free Zone shooting,when are they gonna wise up?Never goes against the antigun agenda,Boobama will probably come out with more antigun propaganda.Be prepared and ready.Keep your powder dry.
The Washington Navy Yard isn’t exactly a classic gun free zone. Unlike the local mall there are guys with guns all over the place. Gun free means no one is armed. If it is true that Alexis shot a guard and took his weapons then this not going to be a good case for good guys with guns stopping bad guys with guns. But it certainly isn’t going to be a good case for gun control either.
“Cmdr. Timothy Jirus said he has a clearance that would allow him to carry a gun on the campus.”
So here’s a non-cop who says he can legally carry a gun at the D.C. Navy yard. Interesting. Does this clearance also allow him to carry it through the District, where to do so would be illegal?
Unless the LCDR is prior enlisted with Master-at-Arms rating he has no right to carry on any base. A security clearance means jack. I had clearances this guy never heard of and I was not allowed to carry. The only people who can carry on an everyday basis are MAA in an MAA billet. If you are doing tour in some not LE field you can’t carry.
With all due respect, the LCDR is full of ****.
Grammar Nazi: Shouldn’t the headline be, “DID you know this man?”
Another military personnel involved in a shooting spree and mass homicide….. clearly we need to take guns from soldiers….. Right.
Hey i seen that guy he’s that dead guy that shot up the Washington Naval Yard and i think he played Pennywise in IT the book not the movie
There was shooting at the white house just now. Fox news is reporting.
Secret service now saying it was firecrackers…..
Some idiot in a suit throwing firecrackers through the fence. Wish it was Feinstein.
Sen. Dianne Feinstein needs to get her facts straight before running off at the mouth.
The news is reporting the shooter started with a shotgun then used weapons he took from security personal he shot to continue his rampage meaning to me anyway any assault rifles used belonged to security personal the shooter shot.
Buy a shotgun … buy a shotgun
He’s obviously a member of the super-secret radical-Constitutional pro-liberty pro- Bill of Rights pro-gun group known as The Black Iced-Tea-Bag Drinkers.
I’m retired Civil Service. When the government does a background check, they (OPM) send out questionnaires to at least 3 people asking about the applicant (either for a federal job or as a contractor). The paperwork asks the recepient to be honest but then warns you that any information you provide about the applicant (including derogatory info) will be passed the the applicant.
A SSSLLLLOOOOWWWWW person would realize that we are talking lawsuit so no one says anything bad about the applicant. How do I know that?
There is no one at home at OPM or the background check people. I’ve known people whose backgroudn check was 10 months in coming. They were hired and NOT allowed to access the computer system as they had no clearance. How dumb is that?
Politically correct is costing people their lives but who cares. Thank Clinton for no weapons on military bases. The shooting at Ft Hood is classified as a workplace violence incident and not a terrorist incident. Probably because someone in high places hates this country.
There are two types of background checks for a security clearance. The National Agency Check Investigation or NACI and the Single Scope Background Investigation or SSBI
To get a Secret Clearance all you need is a NACI. The NACI is a slightly more inclusive NICS type check. The references are handled the same as a standard employment reference — not very thoroughly. Basically all you need to do to get a secret clearance is fog a mirror and not have a record beyond a speeding ticket.
Top secret, SCI or caveated [black] program requires an SSBI. That is a whole different animal. You fill out an extensive questionnaire, people get interviewed and some cases you get a counterintelligence and/or lifestyle polygraph. The process takes up 6-12 months. Sometimes you can get an interim top secret if your agency has a history on you and the SSBI is underway and nothing has come to light yet.
I find it endlessly amusing that after all day saying that the gunman was armed with an “assault weapon,” this evenings report on NBCNews.com, reporting that he had relieved an officer of the firearm, referred to it as a “rifle.” So if the cops or the military use it, even if it is a full auto M4 (and this seems to have been), it is just a “rifle,” but if a civilian buys one, it is an “assault weapon.” The sad part is that they seem to have the gun banners fooled.
Well if BO had a son he would look just like Aaron Alexis
You mean if BO had a son who had lived through his drug smoking, hoodie wearing, fight picking teen years then he definitely would have shot up a naval base / or any other facility most likely.
Alex was old enough to be his brother, not his son. Let’s just say that Mr. Obama’s brother went on a shooting rampage.
Hey. I just saw this guy! Where was it? Oh yeah. On a flier.
How’s he make his head expand and contract like that?
You can ask Barry Bonds. He seems to know the secret.
And shouldn’t “hair” be N/A? haha
I thought the one on the left had a giant turquoise afro.
I see his forehead, so it would be a Halffro.
Well, I’m just glad he wasn’t some white dude or all the sudden this would be all about anti-government, Alex Jones, Tea Party, etc, etc.
Oh don’t worry about that my friend, they will find a way to spin it.
Unless it is a terrorist attack then it will get called Work Place Violence and sweep under the rug.
Thanks
Robert
Might just be “Work Place Violence.”
This time.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/09/16/active-shooter-at-washington-navy-yard at the 3:15 update it explains that he was seen taking the AR-15 from the cop he shot
Interesting if true. Then the press (by a pure lazy reporting accident) would actually have a mass shooting with an “assault rifle/machine gun/bullet spraying death machine” (last one to be found on motherjones no doubt). Side note that nobody is going to hear in the news, if this guy was a contractor, he would have had to go through much more than a NICS background check for even a basic security clearance. Not that those facts will get in the way of a good “we could have prevented this tragedy if (insert ineffective law here) wasn’t obstructed by the evil baby-killing NRA” comment from our fact-reporting “news” outlets.
http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Confirmed-Shooter-at-Navy-Yard-One-Person-Shot-223897891.html more direct
When McVeigh threw his little invitational, it was quite some time before “they” started looking for anyone who wasn’t swarthy and bearded.
Let’s all assume nothing, shall we?
You mean like the Santa Monica, Ft. Hood, and Va Tech shooters? Oh wait . . .
Are those 2 pictures of the same guy?
Doesn’t look like the same guy at all.
Maybe this is why there were so many reports of two shooters.
First one probably from a very cheap mug-shot camera with a wider lens. Makes his head (and nose) look wider than they should. Wild ass guess.
The lighting used for mug shots often makes the skin look lighter as well. I would guess the right hand picture is a military ID picture. He looks like he has lost some weight, boot camp will do that.
If he was Navy it was probably his ID picture.
Texas Skinhead.
lmao
No photo of the second Blk suspect:
50 YO, 5′ 10″, 180 pounds, Long Grey Sideburns.
Green clothes and a Berret. Hard to spot that on a surveillance tape
Just described half of DC.
“Aspect Ratio” – It is so important in image editing…
I am going to go out on a limb here and guess that there is no other shooter. This was just one pissed off dude, and a lot of hysteria. Not unlike the Sandy Hook reporting. Remember the guy in the woods wearing camo? It seems damn near impossible to get a straight story when chaos is ensuing.
Idiots. wtf. Maybe ccw permits will be issued in these new found victim zones..
You know what would stop to things like this? Concealed or even open carry on a military base for all service members and not just mp’s.
Don’t leave us trained and willing civilian employees out.
Murrdog you are 100% correct,this is another Gun Free Zone shooting,when are they gonna wise up?Never goes against the antigun agenda,Boobama will probably come out with more antigun propaganda.Be prepared and ready.Keep your powder dry.
The Washington Navy Yard isn’t exactly a classic gun free zone. Unlike the local mall there are guys with guns all over the place. Gun free means no one is armed. If it is true that Alexis shot a guard and took his weapons then this not going to be a good case for good guys with guns stopping bad guys with guns. But it certainly isn’t going to be a good case for gun control either.
He’s not from Texas, he’s from New York.
Brooklyn
http://hamptonroads.com/2013/09/former-petty-officer-kills-12-washington-navy-yard
“Cmdr. Timothy Jirus said he has a clearance that would allow him to carry a gun on the campus.”
So here’s a non-cop who says he can legally carry a gun at the D.C. Navy yard. Interesting. Does this clearance also allow him to carry it through the District, where to do so would be illegal?
Unless the LCDR is prior enlisted with Master-at-Arms rating he has no right to carry on any base. A security clearance means jack. I had clearances this guy never heard of and I was not allowed to carry. The only people who can carry on an everyday basis are MAA in an MAA billet. If you are doing tour in some not LE field you can’t carry.
With all due respect, the LCDR is full of ****.
Grammar Nazi: Shouldn’t the headline be, “DID you know this man?”
Another military personnel involved in a shooting spree and mass homicide….. clearly we need to take guns from soldiers….. Right.
Hey i seen that guy he’s that dead guy that shot up the Washington Naval Yard and i think he played Pennywise in IT the book not the movie
Feinstein cries “First!”
There was shooting at the white house just now. Fox news is reporting.
Secret service now saying it was firecrackers…..
Some idiot in a suit throwing firecrackers through the fence. Wish it was Feinstein.
Sen. Dianne Feinstein needs to get her facts straight before running off at the mouth.
The news is reporting the shooter started with a shotgun then used weapons he took from security personal he shot to continue his rampage meaning to me anyway any assault rifles used belonged to security personal the shooter shot.
Buy a shotgun … buy a shotgun
He’s obviously a member of the super-secret radical-Constitutional pro-liberty pro- Bill of Rights pro-gun group known as The Black Iced-Tea-Bag Drinkers.
He is Obummers son.
He’s insane, he can’t have a gun.
The Seattle PD knows him pretty well:
http://spdblotter.seattle.gov/2013/09/16/suspect-in-navy-yard-attack-previously-arrested-in-seattle-for-anger-fueled-shooting/
I’m retired Civil Service. When the government does a background check, they (OPM) send out questionnaires to at least 3 people asking about the applicant (either for a federal job or as a contractor). The paperwork asks the recepient to be honest but then warns you that any information you provide about the applicant (including derogatory info) will be passed the the applicant.
A SSSLLLLOOOOWWWWW person would realize that we are talking lawsuit so no one says anything bad about the applicant. How do I know that?
There is no one at home at OPM or the background check people. I’ve known people whose backgroudn check was 10 months in coming. They were hired and NOT allowed to access the computer system as they had no clearance. How dumb is that?
Politically correct is costing people their lives but who cares. Thank Clinton for no weapons on military bases. The shooting at Ft Hood is classified as a workplace violence incident and not a terrorist incident. Probably because someone in high places hates this country.
There are two types of background checks for a security clearance. The National Agency Check Investigation or NACI and the Single Scope Background Investigation or SSBI
To get a Secret Clearance all you need is a NACI. The NACI is a slightly more inclusive NICS type check. The references are handled the same as a standard employment reference — not very thoroughly. Basically all you need to do to get a secret clearance is fog a mirror and not have a record beyond a speeding ticket.
Top secret, SCI or caveated [black] program requires an SSBI. That is a whole different animal. You fill out an extensive questionnaire, people get interviewed and some cases you get a counterintelligence and/or lifestyle polygraph. The process takes up 6-12 months. Sometimes you can get an interim top secret if your agency has a history on you and the SSBI is underway and nothing has come to light yet.
I find it endlessly amusing that after all day saying that the gunman was armed with an “assault weapon,” this evenings report on NBCNews.com, reporting that he had relieved an officer of the firearm, referred to it as a “rifle.” So if the cops or the military use it, even if it is a full auto M4 (and this seems to have been), it is just a “rifle,” but if a civilian buys one, it is an “assault weapon.” The sad part is that they seem to have the gun banners fooled.
Well if BO had a son he would look just like Aaron Alexis
You mean if BO had a son who had lived through his drug smoking, hoodie wearing, fight picking teen years then he definitely would have shot up a naval base / or any other facility most likely.
Alex was old enough to be his brother, not his son. Let’s just say that Mr. Obama’s brother went on a shooting rampage.
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