Apparently the first (of hopefully many) of Remington’s XM2010 rifles, the model that won the competition to become the next sniper rifle for the U.S. Army and more importantly a place in my heart, is on sale to the public. Modern Pawn and Guns down in Corpus Christi, Texas has it, and it can be yours for the right price. And a 7 month wait for the can . . .
I had a chance to fire this system at NDIA last year, and it is without a doubt the finest rifle I have ever laid behind. I’ve been waiting ever since for the chassis to become available to the public, but according to the Remington reps they’re still working out the bugs and it won’t really be available to the public until they’re happy with it.
Which begs the question — how did these guys get their hands on one? It seems like every one Remington makes is earmarked for service in the field with our soldiers rather than in some civilian’s gun safe, so what is this one doing out of formation?
There are three explanations in my opinion: either Remington is pulling a publicity stunt (in which case why pick a store no one has ever heard of in the southern tip of Texas?), Remington has filled their military orders and is now shipping to stores (in which case, again, why the furthest gun store possible?) or this one “fell off a truck.” In which case the ATF might have some questions about the provenance of that can.
[h/t TFB]
Hi Nick,
Any major difference between XM2010 vs MSR?
The MSR uses some funky action, but the XM2010 is a standard Rem 700.
That’s why people are waiting for the chassis to come out — pop your existing Rem 700 in that and BAM! instant XM2010.
I think the XM2010 uses the M700 action whereas the MSR uses a new action.
Remington raffled off one of these rifles at the AAC silencer shoot that occurred within the last two years. However, I thought they raffled off an MSR.
So other than being selected by the military…what about it is getting everyone’s undergarments all humid?
What can it do that any other well fitted target rifle can’t?
Don’t let people lie to you. New guns are like new cars. Both still get from point A to point B, but the new car looks new, has more up to date looks, and well, its new.
Same thing with guns. Admitting to liking a good looking gun is taboo or something.
Meh.
If there’s anything I’ve learned from working in IT, it’s that it’s kinda silly to pay a premium for Rev A of new hardware when the design will be refined and improved rapidly as the field reports come in.
Unless you need it 1) Right F’in Now, and 2) it will generate enough revenue to pay for itself quickly.
Admittedly, 2) isn’t really a concern for the military, but it’s not like it would be practical to pay for the rifle via pest-control bounties.
rosignol Re: Rev A
I have a standing rule to never buy the first version of anything.
The stock is the main craw for me on this one. Just like the Ballista or M2012 it adjusts in every way imaginable. But what makes it a winner is the style.
I was interested in the price, but since it wouldn’t be a “serious inquiry”, then screw ’em.
“or this one “fell off a truck.” In which case the ATF might have some questions about the provenance of that can.”
“Marines sold stolen combat weapons to gangs, China”
http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/05/15/11717393-marines-sold-stolen-combat-weapons-to-gangs-china?lite
“or this one “fell off a truck.” In which case the ATF might have some questions about the provenance of that can.”
I don’t know much about this pawn shop, but judging by the number of NFA items in their inventory I find it hard to believe (but not impossible) that they would risk losing their FFL selling known black market items. The Titan didn’t necessarily have to be included with the their acquisition of the rifle…they have plenty of other AAC cans being sold. I’m curious to see how this turns out.
I work for Remington and no one knows how this got out. I checked the model number today. In the last year we have only shipped 5 outside of the US Army and none of them went to these people. We can’t start selling commercial versions or offering the chasis until the military orders are filled.
Check with the Justice Department. It might be the result of a botched sting operation called Sensual & Seductive using US military personnel without the ok from the JCS.
I’ll make a point to stop by the Defense division today. I wish I could see the serial # in the pics. But I’m sure they wouldn’t risk their FFL with a stolen gun. The bad thing is every 10 year old that plays call of duty wants that gun. Along with the ACR, MSR & RSASS. I’m sure this will generate a lot of calls for the consumer service dept. Everyone wants what they can’t have!
I don’t like stirring the pot too much, BUT… If you must know, the rifle was purchased from Acusport in Fort Worth Tx. They are one of the largest distributors in the country. Implying that the rifle is stolen is not appreciated. If you would like to come and take a look at it, it is sitting on our rack in plain sight for anyone to see. It is for sale. This rifle was merely a perk of the volume of guns that we sell. Acusport offered it to us.
I buy all my guns from modern pawn and gun in corpur Christi Texas , there is nothing illegal going on , these guys are very professional and by the book , so all you jealous haters should go find some other thread to hate on !!
“(in which case why pick a store no one has ever heard of in the southern tip of Texas?), Remington has filled their military orders and is now shipping to stores (in which case, again, why the furthest gun store possible?)”
I have heard of them and as a matter of fact I’m getting my Glock from them. Where should this gun have gone, THIS IS TEXAS, we have more land and guns than anywhere else in the US, this would be the perfect place for it. Sorry “Nick” doesn’t think it belongs down here. Good thing his opinion doesn’t matter, maybe I’ll stop by today and ask them to take a pic of me holding it.
Actually Kentucky has the most guns, Texas ranks 33 on the list.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2010/06/28/states-with-the-most-guns.html
Grog, seriously?! Try not to be so naïve. I’m born and raised Texican. My family settled Madison county in the 1830’s. I can guarantee you those registration numbers are only that…registration numbers! Most citizens in Texas don’t need to register their weapons! We ONLY need a permit to carry concealed handguns on our person. We can possess handguns all we want without registration and carry handguns in our vehicles too. Texas has 24+MILLION people, 2nd largest state…do you really think those numbers accurately represent how many guns we have in Texas?! Don’t believe those California numbers either, sport.
Grog – your logic is flawed. Show me some current numbers then we’ll talk – and I’m not talking “registrations per capita” – actual # of guns in the state.
I wonder how this beauty compares to my Barrett MRAD ? Hopefully I’ll have my Titan QD in here soon (ordered May 2011, I understand filling Gov’t contracts 1st and patiently waiting) so I can wait another 5-6 months for the transfer. I am curious how this compares to the MRAD. I really enjoy the capabilities with it’s simplicity and long range accuracy. Just wonderin’
how much
Can you disassemble this rifle
The XM 2010 in .300 Win. mag is far better than the former M24 (7.62 mm /.308 Win.) for many reasons.
1-> better balistics in the .300 Win. mag., esp. with the Berger 230 grain Tactical Hybrid bullet
2-> far better stock (actually a “chassis” stock)
3-> Field maintainable by sniper (armorer usually not required)
CONS:
1-> mainly the very high scope mounting base (Picatinny rail) This is due to the unnecessarily large diameter tubular forearm designed by CADEX, the Canadian company that designed the XM2010. This needs REDESIGNED to a smaller diameter!
2-> LOTS of chassis parts to get messed up in the rigors of combat.
XM 2010 can u send to Malaysia…i am a doomsday prepper…i just wanna keep it without anyone knowing…is it possible…pm me
Haha priceless… go find a cave to store your illegal firearms that way the hordes of zombies won’t find them
“The XM 2010 in .300 Win. mag is far better than the former M24 (7.62 mm /.308 Win.) for many reasons.
1-> better balistics in the .300 Win. mag., esp. with the Berger 230 grain Tactical Hybrid bullet
2-> far better stock (actually a “chassis” stock)
3-> Field maintainable by sniper (armorer usually not required)
CONS:
1-> mainly the very high scope mounting base (Picatinny rail) This is due to the unnecessarily large diameter tubular forearm designed by CADEX, the Canadian company that designed the XM2010. This needs REDESIGNED to a smaller diameter!
2-> LOTS of chassis parts to get messed up in the rigors of combat.”
Reply:
1: better ballistics, no doubt. However, there will more than likely never be a Berger 230 in the military supply chain.
2. Agreed
3. Armorers usually not required? Field maintainable? Please explain how so more or less than any other system on the battlefield. I’d suggest that this item is LESS field maintainable than most battle rifles. Examples; trigger malfunction: it will be sent back to Remington. Barrel “shot-out”: it will get sent back to remington. Extractor/ejector breaks or malfunctions;”: it will get sent back to Remington. I’ve handled to tool kit. Any field maintenance will consist of tightening the action screws and scope rings with the respective torque wrenches.
Cons
1. Disagree: the “uneccesarriy large forearm” isn’t the cause of the high scope mounting, the 50mm is the reason it’s so high. Get over it, it ha an adjustable cheek rest to compensate for the high mounting.
2. Yes, there are numerous parts to the chassis, but didn’t you point out as a “plus” that the system is “field maintainable”, usually without an armorer?
If this is a standard Rem 700 action what’s the big fuss about?
Just go get a Tac 21 or XLR chassis you’ve got the same thing.
Anyone have a comparison of the XM2010 versus the Drake Stalker Gen 2?
I wonder what Mike Smith/AAC has to say about this.
http://www.aacblog.com/the-truth-about-aac/comment-page-1/#comment-56467
With the XM2010 I can hit a still target 1100 yards out and 970 yards on a moving target, this baby is a mean bitch…
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