“The Saiga 12 C EXP 01 is the latest military/law enforcement version of the Saiga shotgun from Izhmash,” thefirearmsblog.com reports. “It features a short (14″?) barrel with muzzle brake, folding skeleton stock, receiver rail and AK-style forend with under rail.” OK, yes, the folding stock makes the shotgun slightly more useful. But please . . .
Piers…
You have been weighed,
You have been measured,
And you have been found wanting…good riddance.
The blogger from Walls of the City has one, looks like its a blast to shoot.
http://www.wallsofthecity.net/2012/03/the-short-verdict.html
Indeed it is. A video showing how much of a blast is here: http://www.wallsofthecity.net/2012/07/famous-on-the-internet.html
I’m sure it will be popular with contractors and SWAT units. It should make a pretty excellent entry gun, especially in select-fire.
The NFA rules are stupid. This firearm is no more lethal than one with a longer barrel. It just looks scary. Yet if I want one because it looks cool, I have to pay more and get the government’s permission? Gosh, if I wanted to commit nefarious acts with a short barrelled shotgun, couldn’t I just saw off the barrel myself, ala “Red Dawn”? Someone who is intent on committing murder isn’t going to let fear of a firearms law violation stop him.
I’ll take two!!
Well, I guess shooting this with the stock folded would really loosen up the post-workout stiffness I get in my arms in the morning. By using the stock, it might even readjust my back if I use magnum loads . So much for visiting the chiropractor.
Cool paperweight!
large and expensive for a paper weight. boat anchor comes to mind. probably sturdy enough,it’s russian after all, to drive fence posts with.
If it was suppressed, then it would kool
Oh and Night Vision
and a GPS
maybe a cell phone
…..and a flip out George Foreman grill too. Might as well make it usefull somehow.
Now THAT’s Funny!
If it’s a ‘Law Enforcement’ version, that means it’s actually supposed to work, right? Unfortunately it’s still a Saiga-12, with a Mean Time Between Failures of approximately 3.7 rounds. I’d rather trust my life to a 12-ga coach gun, with a Mean Time Between Reloads of exactly 2.0 rounds.
The mean time between failures on my S12 is closer to 1K rounds.
I’ve seen three of them at the range, and none of them (even the heavily customized race gun at M3GI) could fire a single magazine without a critical malfunction of some sort.
I wish your example was the norm instead of the exception.
The shotgun shown is NOT a Saiga. It’s a Vepr, a rather higher quality device.
D’oh! Text and headline amended. Thanks Oleg. Oh, do you think it’s useless?
I think it’s quite useful if you like shotguns for defense. Less kick than manually operated equivalents, quick reloads. I plan on getting one.
What exactly makes it “but please…..”?
It is set up as an entry gun, it is not set up for shooting birds. Not everyone’s cup of tea, but much more effective in CQB then a full stocked 870.
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