We need the Justice Department to use its power of the purse and offer incentives for local, county and state agencies to abide by their state’s red flag laws and, just as importantly, disincentives when they don’t.
Following last year’s mass shooting at Club Q, the LGBTQ nightclub in Colorado Springs, Colorado, some state lawmakers raised questions about law enforcement leaders who were unsupportive of the state’s red flag provisions. After Colorado passed its red flag law in 2019, Michael Allen, the district attorney in nearby El Paso County, derided it as “unconstitutional,” tweeting that it was nothing “more than a way to justify seizing people’s firearms under the color of law.” He described the law as “a poor excuse to take people’s guns” and said it’s “not designed in any way to address real concrete mental health concerns.”
We’ve heard similar arguments from the sheriff in El Paso County and the sheriff in Lea County, New Mexico; and even a sheriff’s association in Minnesota.
But their opposition is unwarranted. Red flag laws save lives. Take it from Douglas County, Colorado, Sheriff Tony Spurlock, who, according to Pew Reports, has taken “political heat from gun rights advocates who question the law’s due process protections.” But Spurlock, whom Pew describes as “an avid Second Amendment supporter” finds it significant that each of the four people who were subject of red flag petitions in his jurisdiction is still alive. “It’s our responsibility to protect our citizens from harm,” he said. “We have a tool that is very valuable and will make a difference in the community.”
The Justice Department offers millions of dollars in grants each year to law enforcement agencies. To increase compliance with red flag laws, it should prioritize grant awards to those departments that comply with their state’s red flag laws and put those that don’t at the bottom of its pile.
The Justice Department should also direct the FBI to reject applications to attend the prestigious FBI National Academy from law enforcement executives who don’t demonstrate support for utilizing their state’s red flag provisions. There are also other leadership training opportunities beyond the National Academy, that the Justice Department and the FBI could deny to department leaders who refuse to take this commonsense approach to make their communities safer.
— Frank Figliuzzi in This is how Biden should respond to sheriffs who won’t enforce gun laws
the red flag laws will be twisted and corrupted just like everything else that they do, they will use it against law abiding citizens to attack our rights. the idea is to get the criminal element off the street and put away not law-abiding citizens.
At the common law in a constitutional Republic, the public servants are strictly limited to only do those things they have been privileged to do.
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There is not even the slightest privilege to act upon firearms held by lawful citizens.
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“Tyrannies are perpetuated by diffident men who do not possess the courage to act out their beliefs.”
― Stanley Milgram, Obedience to Authority
Michael Allen, the district attorney in nearby El Paso County is correct. Red flag laws are unconstitutional. Period!
Sheriff Tony Spurlock says “We have a tool that is very valuable and will make a difference in the community” It is unconstitutional. You are violating your oath you jackass! Unfortunately this idiot is my sheriff. We tried to kick his ass out but di succeed.
“didn’t”
Perhaps someone should remove him kinetically.
Spurlock is an unfortunate name. We had a gay guy in the Navy whose name became Sperm Locker. I can’t see or hear that name without thinking of that silly SOB.
If Sheriff Spurlock believes the mental state of the person to whom the ‘red flag’ law is directed towards warrants seizing his firearms, then why not take that mentally unstable person to a mental hospital instead? Taking away firearms will not stop a motivated person.
This ‘red flag’ law non-sense never did make any sense to me. It’s an Ex Parte petition that doesn’t allow a person to defend themselves in a court of law until it’s too late. It turns our innocent until proven guilty justice system on its head.
If the person is believed to be enough of a danger to himself or others enough so that you have to take his firearms away, then maybe he should be checked into a mental institution instead. It’s just another back door attempt to violate the 2A under the guise of color of law.
Don’t forget that rotten government exists at local levels too.
Come and take it, I’ll send you all the ammunition too.
Used…
Express, same day delivery…
“Express, same day delivery…”
As with baking, warm from the oven is freshest… 😉
I read the article. No comment allowed. I went to his website. Severe case of TDS. Sad that a former sworn officer is wiling to betray the oath.
Figliuzzi, aka Fagloser (as he was known in the Bureau) has always been an absolute d-bag. He is staying true to form. I have no doubt he has a picture of Himmler in full regalia hanging in his bedroom.
the solution is simple…don’t keep all your guns in one place…leave a few about as sucker bait so they can feel they did something….and hide the rest in a creative fashion….
Better idea, don’t let them into your home in the first place… Unless ALL of your guns came to you through private transactions or inheritance, they already know what you have, search warrants must be specific and personally would require several pages just for my properties… That’s not going to happen for a million and a half gun owners in the U.S. and they can’t just come into your home without a warrant or probable cause that a crime IS occurring…
If a cop can’t find a judge that will sign any warrant shoved in front of him, he has only been on the job less than a week. Getting a 3:00 am, no-knock warrant is simple. I only knew a couple judges who would ask if everything in the warrant was true and correct. Most only asked where to sign. Warrants in CA are supposed to be attested to under oath. Ha ha ha ha. Say, if you believe that, let me tell you about a bridge that is a sure money maker.
Getting a 3:00 am, no-knock warrant is simple.
Shit won’t fly in Florida, Sorry you are stuck in the Peoples Republic of Kommiefornication, but there IS a real world on the other side of that Eastern border…
proceed @ your own risk
tough talk impresses no one…all your doing is playing into their hands….
“But their opposition is unwarranted. Red flag laws save lives.”
can ya be anymore false?
1. Their opposition is warranted because the ‘red flag’ laws they are taking about are unconstitutional and/or do not do anything to address the real issues of mental illness and are focused squarely on taking guns from law abiding people for no real reason at all.
2. your gun confiscation red flag laws do not save lives and its ignorant and disengenous to claim they do. they might keep someone from doing something temporarily while they regroup if the threat is real. But if that person were actually a threat to their self or someone else they still remain that threat even without a gun while you idiots let them continue to roam freely. almost 90% of victims for which their threat person had their guns taken under red flag laws, those victims were still stalked or attacked and seriously injured or sometimes killed by their threat person without using a gun and if that threat person was a threat to them selves over 90% of the time they still attempted or still contemplated suicide because they were at risk and your red flag law did nothing for mental health, but had this perverted idea ‘yep, took the gun so its ok now”.
then your complete ignorace and dismissal of that thing called ‘due process’ because you are so intent on gun confiscation for the most contrived reasons you can come up with.
what is it with you idiots that makes you so blind to the fact that the presence or absence of a gun does nothing to determine a risk or likelihood of something bad happening simply because you can scream ‘red flag law’?
then your math skills…for cripes sakes, confiscation of a gun does not equate to a life saved yet that’s how you count it. its the representation of the false logic ‘coorelation = causation” all over again.
your red flag laws are squarely focused on unconstitutional gun confiscation only and nothing else. Yes, they are warranted in their opposition.
there is such a thing as a constitutional law, why don’t you try it for a change.
.40 cal,
“Their opposition is warranted because the ‘red flag’ laws they are taking about are unconstitutional and/or do not do anything to address the real issues of mental illness and are focused squarely on taking guns from law abiding people for no real reason at all.”
And if you tell me anything about this surprises you, I’m going to be disappointed. As I’ve repeatedly argued, to fascist fools like dacian the demented and MinorLiar, there has been, for DECADES (even longer, in many jurisdictions) a process in place to deal with people who have mental issues that make them “a danger to themselves or others” – but that existing procedure involves adherence to due process, and actually paying attention to the Constitution. That doesn’t suit the agenda of the Leftist/fascist gungrabbers, because it requires things like the accused being able to face his accuser, actual evidence being presented by BOTH sides, pesky things like that.
No, they want their “Minority Report” approach, to strip people of private property and Constitutional rights without the bother of all that inconvenient honoring of the accused’s Constitutional rights. These being the same people that cheered decisions such as Miranda. They are lying hypocrites . . . just read any comment by MinorLiar. dacian the demented, OTOH, is just a deranged Leftist lunatic.
Precisely. THOSE “detain for mental health evaluation and treatment” laws do something about mental health, while all that red flag laws do is take away the guns WITHOUT any referral to mental health for evaluation and/or treatment. It is like saying, “we know you are suicidal, so we will take away your guns and you will have to find another way to off yourself.”
someone has to find a way to get this before the supremes…just saying its unconstitutional will get you nowhere…
“…and/or do not do anything to address the real issues of mental illness and are focused squarely on taking guns from law abiding people for no real reason at all.”
There is a very good reason they want it.
They cannot launch their literally fascist agenda if the general public is armed. It’s not about saving kids lives, it’s all about them seizing power to make the totalitarian dictatorship they want…
Right on, .40 cal. Well said.
Let’s be honest, and fair here. He has an idea. I don’t like how he wants to use his idea, but let’s consider his basic idea.
Suppose that the feds withhold funding for those police departments that fail to make arrests and charges for violent crimes. Let’s take that a little step further: Funds are withheld from those cities that fail to prosecute violent crimes.
Suppose that for every revolving door criminal turned loose on the streets after a rape, robbery, carjacking, attempted murder, it cost the city 1/2 million dollars in federal funding.
To hell with the gun control zealot who authored the article. We should take his idea and run with it. Oh yeah – sanctuary cities that harbor illegal aliens? Ditto. Good idea, even if the author is an idiot who hates America.
On the other paw, a fair amount of federal funding comes from gasoline taxes, collected by the states and forwarded to the feds. How about the states can withhold too.
“On the other paw, a fair amount of federal funding comes from gasoline taxes, collected by the states and forwarded to the feds.”
Here’s something draconian to ponder :
As federal gas tax income starts to collapse in the next decade or so, how do you think they will be able to afford to build and maintain those roads?
Gas taxes are overall fair taxes, since someone who doesn’t use public roads won’t be on the hook for them.
A : A GPS that ‘phones home’ could do that, at the price of privacy.
B : Here’s the real gotcha – If they use GPS to determine total miles driven, how are they gonna bill the electric car owners for road money, a check to write each month?
Many states have realized or anticipated a loss in fuel tax revenue, and are beginning to apply a surcharge to EV registrations. The obvious and easy answer, for the globalist tyranny lovers out there, is GPS tracking and billing accordingly, as you noted.
Just add a surcharge to ALL charging stations including private owned…… I’m pretty sure thay can come up with a way to differentiate between a charger and “normal” household electric use, put a separate meter on the charger(s)?…
“the power of the purse” is a phrase traditionally attributed to Congress. What power of what purse does the Justice Dept. have?
Legally and constitutionally, they have no purse. However, Congress allocates money to the Justice Dept without specifying exactly how every dollar must be spent. Justice has a de facto power of the purse.
Correct.
“finds it significant that each of the four people who were subject of red flag petitions in his jurisdiction is still alive.”
are you completely stupid?
you don’t find it significant that even more are still alive without being subject to red flag petitions?
four people, that’s it? for four people you think an unconstitutional law did that?
four people is so statistically insignificant ots not even worth counting considering all the violent crime you don’t even bother to prosecute.
to the demented Booger Brain
You have the standard jackbooted nut case excuses, i.e. “Losses can never be to high” It was one of Hitler’s most famous lines. Try pandering your moronic babbling to the victims of gun tragedies by telling them that “their relatives were expendable because the body count was not high enough.
Red Flag laws are nothing new even when no such laws existed because law enforcement did indeed confiscate firearms from people who were causing domestic disturbances only it was not exactly legal to do so back in the day. Now with codified red flag laws it is legal and it has been proven to save lives even though you scream “the body count is not yet high enough”. Well Booger Brain you deparaved moron I ask you “When the FK is the body count high enough”???? “Never” according to your senseless foaming at the mouth rantings.
STFU you Soros shil!
remember Trump suggested and supported this…”Take the guns now…worry about due process later”
🖕🏽
lil ‘d… so many words to say
” Mr. Anderson is my hero, and I can’t wait to have my own Minority Report filed to
help put me away. “
“You have the standard jackbooted nut case excuses, i.e. “Losses can never be to high” It was one of Hitler’s most famous lines. Try pandering your moronic babbling to the victims of gun tragedies by telling them that “their relatives were expendable because the body count was not high enough”
He didn’t say losses never can be too high. The issue is Constitutionality and to preserve Rights. Due process is the supreme law, not Facism as you would prefer.
Tell us, Jerry, with your vast education and life experience how do you make a red flag law that follows Constitutional Rights?
…..too….
@dacian
once again you lie.
@dacian
also… I never posted any of what you claim I did.
dacian the demented dips***,
“Red Flag laws are nothing new even when no such laws existed because law enforcement did indeed confiscate firearms from people who were causing domestic disturbances only it was not exactly legal to do so back in the day.”
Gee, thanks for realizing that cops frequently don’t follow the law. Congrats on that deep insight, you drooling moron. And yet, you would tell us that the Feebs, the AFT, the DoJ, WON’T abuse the powers that you argue we should give them???? Just make the discussion easy, and simply admit that you are a hypocritical @$$clown.
“Now with codified red flag laws it is legal . . . ”
Newsflash, you babbling fucktard – passing a law does not make it “legal”, if the law inherently violates the Constitution and BoR. Seizing private property without due process is NEVER Constitutional, no matter what laws get passed.
I would tell you, as I often do MinorLiar, to go suck-start a shotgun, but:
1. You are fun to abuse and mock;
2. You couldn’t afford a shotgun OR the shells;
3. If someone GAVE you a shotgun and shells, you wouldn’t know which end the shot comes out of.
So, instead, I’ll just tell you to go expire in an excavation, or just f*** right off to one of your “civilized” paradises, like you keep babbling about.
“Losses can never be to high” It was one of Hitler’s most famous lines
ANOTHER false statement by daciboy… If YOU have credible evidence that attributes THAT quote then YOU are way too deep into Hitlers life… OBTW: Wikiwhatever is NOT a credible source…
lil’d is more into Stalin, but flip sides of the same coin.
But he’s really a fanboy of Stalin’s executioner Vasily Blokhin.
MAXX and Southern,
I’m sure he gets a major chubby thinking about Che, Lavrentiy Pavlovich Beria, Josef Goebels, and many others, too. dacian the demented never met a Leftist/fascist he didn’t admire.
A boy(?) needs his dreams… I know I’m taking a lot for granted by assuming it’s a boy, but WTF, you only live once ..
He would know how to “motivate” those reluctant LEOs. Commissar dacian knows the inspirational power of a few applications of “people’s justice”.
Forcing an American into losing their civil rights without due process for those who are not criminals has NEVER been legal. It does happen but that doesn’t mean it is legal.
That garbage was fostered to the highest level initially by O’bumma. Conducting extrajudicial assassinations on U.S. citizens via Executive proxy back in the heyday of the GW0T by drones.
“Oh, it’s okay, they are IS members”, the general public sentiment at the time, which is coming back to bite us hard. No due process, no trial by a jury of their peers as guaranteed to citizens, supposedly.
Should’a fought tooth and nail then, but here we are because the masses largely acquiesced because D4’ish, few protested, and not one prosecutor countrywide filed charges for the crimes committed.
All failed to act with nary a whimper, but instead simping for, and suddenly everyone’s all surprised? Bollocks.
is there anything worse than a cop who says emphatically “I KNOW THE LAW!”….when, in truth…he doesn’t know jack shit…yes, they’re out there…
That was the fastest leap to Godwin’s law ever. A new record.
And again a demonstration of your capacity for doublethink. Law enforcement are F@scist jackbooted thugs until they do what I want them to do.
Exactly! That miniscule small of a sampling is not proof that “red flag laws work” although that statement insinuates that meaning. The unproven assumption is that “it saves lives” overlooks the fact the law does not give the person subject to the order due process and is unconstitutional. You want these laws and regs to stick, then it is REQUIRED that you get the votes sufficient to change the constitution regarding due process. Period. That’s how the law of the land works and should work.
Yeah, the “yay, four people are still alive, that’s significant, thanks red flag laws” statement is ridiculous. You can’t tell if a red flag law worked because it’s pre-crime, or really, no crime necessary. You can’t tell if the four thankfully living people would have actually killed themselves or others or committed crimes had the guns not been removed… someone who was wrongfully red flagged and someone who was actually a threat but didn’t do anything end up in the same count, the only thing you can count us whether they were red flagged. Those four could go kill someone tomorrow so how can you even be sure it did anything?
Dang. It’s so simple. Just defund the police departments and use the money to fund pre-crime departments. /sarc
Do we really want LEO dominated by the FSB and being directed by the Party in D.C.?
Did I write FSB? It is a typo, I meant our equivalent, they who shall not be named.
Known here as the Other Government Agency (OGA).
From the twitter files:
8.On June 29th, 2020, San Francisco FBI agent Elvis Chan wrote to pair of Twitter execs asking if he could invite an “OGA” to an upcoming conference
9.OGA, or “Other Government Organization,” can be a euphemism for CIA, according to multiple former intelligence officials and contractors. Chuckles one: “They think it’s mysterious, but it’s just conspicuous.”
10.“Other Government Agency (the place where I worked for 27 years),” says retired CIA officer Ray McGovern.
They only work in foreign countries! (wink, nod)
That rule is more of a suggestion.
Same as No Suc|-|, the Nannie’s Reach Organization, and State’s Consuela Opz.
“red flag” laws are unconstitutional and deprive people of their rights under color of law. Sheriff Spurlock would justify any quasi-legal concept as just following orders. Frank Figliuzzi is utter trash and a deranged leftist.
Spurlock won’t be leading the pack when the Gestapo comes to your door and that C*nt Figliuzzi will be sitting in his ivory tower on his high horse. Fuck these assholes they can’t be removed from power soon enough.
At least 80 county sheriffs in ILLANNOY would tell this fool “hold my beer”🙄
Find an area near the Amish fww. You won’t be sorry. Peaceful and good neighbors in Indiana.
Regarding your comment on Frank Figiuzzi, yessir. You are correct. He was hated inside the FBI as well.
RE: “But their opposition is unwarranted. Red flag laws save lives. Take it from Douglas County, Colorado, Sheriff Tony Spurlock, who, according to Pew Reports, has taken “political heat from gun rights advocates who question the law’s due process protections.” But Spurlock, whom Pew describes as “an avid Second Amendment supporter” finds it significant that each of the four people who were subject of red flag petitions in his jurisdiction is still alive. “It’s our responsibility to protect our citizens from harm,” he said. “We have a tool that is very valuable and will make a difference in the community.”
Well I just finished talking to and feeding my squirrel and bird buddies. Now if some busy body drama queen Gun Control democRat pos witnessed that show and found out I had firearms I could be Red Flagged. Next thing nazis would show up at my door and my firearms confiscated and I’m on my way to the funny farm in a straight jacket.
Chances are good the 4 people the so called avid 2A supporter tony sprulock cited as examples of success would be alive anyway because there are laws already on the books to assist such individuals.
Last but not least…History Confirms Gun Control in any shape, matter or form is Rooted in Racism and Genocide.
Stopping the mental illness history confirms is inherent with Gun Control is your duty and responsibility tony sprulock.
https://youtu.be/WlItbl9SOAg
We have some really well spoken Reps and Senators, unfortunately not nearly enough. I hate the fact that stupid people can nullify my vote. But alas if you don’t vote you are a part of the problem.
hhhmmm…
Makes me wonder if it’s been noticed how many people that have never been subjected to red flag laws are also still alive. To include Mr. Spurlock. Even if I were to support Red Flag Laws, this kind of logic is flawed to start with.
the fed can’t withhold money from the states because that will not follow a wish they use red flag laws. it takes an act of congress to with hold federal funds from a state and then the ability to do so is extreamly narrow, and doesn’t allow for ‘we are the government do as we say or else’ which is basically what this idiot is calling for which is known by another name called ‘dictatorship’. The feds can not constitutionally force a state to enact or enforce a red flag law, that is solely the domain of those states law makers. the feds also can not force states to help them enforce federal law.
the feds are not going to withhold funds from the states for failing to enact red flag laws or enforce federal law.
.40 cal,
” . . . doesn’t allow for ‘we are the government do as we say or else’ which is basically what this idiot is calling for which is known by another name called ‘dictatorship’.”
Funny, I would have sworn that .40 cal was fully aware that the Left doesn’t hate ‘dictatorship’; they just hate not being the dictators.
Oh, they hate not being both. They just call is ‘common sense’
I disagree with the whole red flag confiscation concept. Under the constitution there is supposed to be due process before any property is confiscated or anyone is deprived of constitutional rights. Too many courts have upheld confiscation of properties due to alleged criminal activity. Before any court case is adjudicated. With proceeds going to usually local law enforcement agencies.
If property was used by a convicted criminal to further their activities etc. Sure, confiscate the property. After a crime has been proven and it has been proven the property in question was either used to support the criminal activity, or purchased with the profits of such criminal activity. But not before the case has gone through the courts.
Same with the so called emergency protection orders that allow confiscation of property without due process. When anyone can claim without proof or evidence that a person could be a threat to themselves or others, or said something stupid in the heat of the moment, and police are allowed or encouraged to confiscate property this will be abused by people with a personal issue or just want to cause harm while not putting themselves at risk.
A couple of the usual suspects commenting here claim such confiscation schemes somehow save lives. Forgetting they could be on the receiving end of such a charge themselves. Said something a neighbor or coworker took offense too? “RED FLAG”. Divorce or child support issues? “RED FLAG”. Pissed off a local politician or cop? “RED FLAG”. No accountability for a false report or doing such as retribution for imagined slights.
if you get a DUI do they confiscate your car?…how about if your just a known heavy drinker…after all it’s all about what you MIGHT do….right?
And this, folks, is why all states should be responsible for themselves. It’s all a power game. To quote Obama, “we have to fundamentally transform the United States of America.” Although, we need to go in the opposite direction of a top heavy, all powerful federal government.
…..”clinging to guns and religion”….right?
Its very simple. No warrant and you enter someone’s house Make MY Day applies. Doesn’t matter who it is. Law enforcement has no business in your home without a valid warrant. Red Flags are illegal because there is no due process and using the excuse it save lives is irrelevant. They take an oath to uphold the Constitution and they should do it. Period.
how about if they take your house because you’ve been known to fall asleep with a lit cigarette in your hand?……
“Red flag laws save lives.”
Alright – I’ll bite. Let’s have one example of “Red flag laws saving lives”.
Can’t do it can ya?
lmao, prestigious FBI. People still falling for that grift?
Important to note that Figloser is not FBI. He was FBI and there was nothing prestigious about his career. He was buffoonish and largely hated by other agents. In fact, he was then and is now a fucking assclown.
how about forfeiture laws?…they’ve been getting away with that one if they find you with a large amount of cash for years….
Douglas County, Colorado, Sheriff Tony Spurlock ~ “…finds it significant that each of the four people who were subject of red flag petitions in his jurisdiction is still alive. “It’s our responsibility to protect our citizens from harm,”
Four, seriously?! Holy small sample size Batman. A) Who knows who, what, or why those four had their guns seized and, B) how does one know that those four would not still be alive even if you hadn’t kicked down their doors and violated their rights? Hmm?
Even further, about your “responsibility” statement there, dude! Uh, it is in fact, *not* your responsibility to protect your citizens from harm and SCOTUS has said so. Look into Castle Rock vs. Gonzales – you should be familiar with that one since Castle Rock, CO is in DOUGLAS COUNTY! It is the county seat, FFS, I’m guessing you’ve been there – I have.
Douglas County just went purple this past election period. Colorado is turning into California East unfortunately. I hate stupid people!
I know, I hate stupid people as well.
Unfortunately, you is right.
used to be a nice place….now toke is ok but guns aren’t…
This is, ultimately, no different than former military turned academics burnishing their reputation with the administrators.
Most of these creatures wouldn’t pass for highly intelligent but they’re smart enough to know which side their bread is buttered on.
Frank should be encouraged to engage in the practice of self-fornication.
i’ll leave that to you and your known level of expertise…
“Red flag laws save lives”
Show me. Gun grabbers keep on repeating this mantra without providing examples. Until then, it is just a “legal” way to confiscate firearms without due process.
anyone else remember the woman in, I believe, New Jersey, who divorced her husband because he beat her multiple times, got a court restraining order against him, no contact, can;t go near her home. She laid as low as she could applied for a Mother May I Card to buy a handgun.That took SO LONG he played his cards right and hit at her home one night and killed her with a bit knife as she returned home. HE did not use a gun, as no “red flag laws” could have disarmed him, and stupid Mother May I laws disarmed HER. She’s dead. Don’t know or care what happened to him but he SHOULD have been executed. Not in NJ though…..
I cannot believe someone was actually able to overcome the “weight” of a piece of paper issued by a court and was able to physically contact that woman and KILL her… Restraining orders: another useless function clogging up our court system…
The Feds don’t need help dragooning local LEO to infringe on an Americans civil rights. Theyll all gladly volunteer. Any chance the bois in blue get to strut their muscle they’re more then happy to oblige.
You have the right to bear arms. Translation: You have the right to be a borderline criminal.
Right up until they get pushback and then they’ll all turn into Uvalde police in a hurry.
to the left ALL gun owners are criminals or potential criminals who threaten their right to be “safe”….press them a bit and they’ll readily admit it….
Isn’t it interesting the very same MSNBC that heralded movements to defund and abolish the police now runs leftist op-eds that proclaim the federal government should fund police to enforce ex-parte attacks on citizens constitutional civil rights. It’s amazing turn about that screams hypocrisy.
defund them if they don’t do what you want…fund them if they do?
“Take it from Douglas County, Colorado, [FORMER] Sheriff Tony Spurlock,”
There was an unfortunate incident where 29 year-old Deputy Zackari SPURLOCK Parrish, III was killed by a known looney on 1/1/17 in northern Douglas County. Spurlock isn’t a common name, so I assume there’s some familial relationship to the sheriff at the time. Spurlock knew Parrish when he was growing up. Although Spurlock advocated a red flag law that allowed police to instigate confiscation, it didn’t go into effect until 1/1/20, and he asked for a handful in the 2 years before he was term limited out. Between advocating for red flags and endorsing a Dem County Commissioner candidate, his political career and influence in red Douglas County is pretty much dead.
Shades of speed limits and the USDOT. The 16A rears its ugly head again.
Appalling but I suspect that everyone in the country who is not in a coma will shortly have greater concerns.
Lucky Dutch having an election this year. Shit, they even seem to have done a decent job of it.
Should be an interesting week. Reminds me that I need to check my ConAgra stock. Orville Redenbacher on the moon by Wednesday.
strych9,
Oh? Expecting a huge increase in ConAgra stock price? Do tell.
strych9,
Never mind. It was early this morning and my brain was not running on all eight cylinders.
(Your comment alludes to multitudes of people popping popcorn to sit back and watch the chaos develop this coming week–presumably over banking collapses.)
AND, lest we forget, the imminent circus unfolding in Manhattan when clown boy Bragg drops that indictment on Trump, THAT is going to be the REAL show… At least two big bowls of Orville WITH butter and a 12 pack on the side…
MaddMaxx,
There is that as well.
Good catch.
Oh the list is long. Maxx is right about the potential Trump indictment.
There’s the banks which gets worse daily, now the FDIC trying to find a way to cover $18 Trillion (LOLOLOL!), riots in France, Germany’s Health Minister admitting he outright lied, the Dutch election, new African Swine Fever cases popping up in China, the ongoing fertilizer shortage, (possibly exacerbated by the ASF thing in China since the only other thing they can mass produce at the needed scale is rice which requires stupid amounts of potassium), China also getting into the Uke thing while we scream that a ceasefire is unacceptable, the auto repo crisis, the fact that the Fed just admitted they can’t do shit about inflation and QE’s back on to try to save the dollar at the expense of outright gutting the retirees, the BTC vs. USD saga playing out online…
Just a lot of really entertaining shit, you know? *pop*
And then there’s the other longer term stuff that could pop this week but probably later, drug shortages, the basic collapse of the medical system, labor shortages, supply shortages across sectors…
Those are all the packages we can’t even start to place a date of arrival on but which we know are in the mail.
“It’s our responsibility to protect our citizens from harm,” he said.
LIARS!!!! You have NO “responsibility” to keep us safe. Courts have agreed.
What you ARE obligated to do is to protect and guarantee our RIGHTS so that WE can protect ourselves. Remember, that pesky Second Article clearaly states in simple easy to comprehend language, that since the PEOPLE are responsible for our own defense, our right to arms must not be limited or curtailed in any way. Not even via a “red flag” “law”.
Remember, too, that laws not consistent with the COnstitution as enacted and ammended are not law at all, but are NULL, VOID and of none EFFECT.
Stick THAT in yer corncob pipe and light it.
Any cop that sends his subordinates to the “prestigious FBI National Academy” should loose his job.
not so “prestigious” anymore…but do they even care?….by the way, highly recommend that “Waco” series on Showtime…..
Wow! Four people were arrested, had their firearms confiscated and are still alive. What are the odds? Seriously. I’m surprised that all four are still alive.
Sad part is there are some times when red flag laws are needed, but damn few. They have taken this law to tar everyone out there as guilty. All these should require intense screening by a judge conversant in constitutional law. I retired out of LE in 1994, and while there were no red flag laws then, in a couple of cases the idea would have been a good one.
As an add-on, I am watching a special on Waco and I have never seen a clusters—k. Only one like was the FBI Miami shootout. But to just try and rush the BD compound with 75 agents is just plain Federal style all the way.
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