Why are you posting Alex Jones videos. I love that guy but i dont take him seriously.
Can we all say Bat-shit crazy together?
it’s like i’ve said about aj before. if even a third of what he said is true he wouldn’t be able to say it and live. he has an agenda, avoid an honest job and sell his “infowars” products.
I’ll agree about the agenda of pushing his products… all businesses do. Some love to capitalize on whatever they can.
You also may be right about the knowledge and his demise… then again, if the rest of his stuff can be proven wrong, it casts doubt on all of it, and thus might be allowed to continue as long as he’s considered a kook and not taken seriously. That’s what makes conspiracy theories just theories and not immediately silenced before they can be spread. Of course, the other side of a conspiracy theory is, that there is no facts at all.
I think every one of the first four posts on this shooting on TTAG had at least one person claiming it was a false-flag operation.
There will always be a crazy opinion or two, and the beauty of this country is that they are free to be crazy.
All terrorist acts are, in effect, staged by government in the sense that each one is a failure on the part of law and on the part of law enforcement officers to protect the citizens. The government assumes all authority in our society, therefore they should be held responsible for the failures of the system. In this case the executive branch of government is particularly guilty. Defensive resources have been misdirected to foreign lands and perpetrators of violence have been empowered by laws against noncoercive actions.
There is no rhyme or reason to this post. The government’s duty is to protect order, not to protect each and every citizen. Realistically, it is impossible for the “government” to possibly meet such a burden except in a society devoid of freedom. Mental illness is not a “failure of the system” but a breakdown of an individual that is statistically certain to occur within a certain percentage of the population; without mind reading or mind control (i.e. Minority Report), preventing acts by any given individual is statistically impossible. The government should be held responsible for certain governmental actions (up to a point that goes too far beyond the scope of the thread to explicate), but cannot be held responsible for the actions of nongovernmental persons or entities. Defendsive resources sent overseas? You do realize, of course, that the US Military, outside of the National Guard Militia, is stautorily prohibited from being used in a law wnforcement capacity in this country. For some reason, our forefathers had a big issue with standing armies–I think it had something to do with the British Army’s impreial control of the colonists.
YES, the executive branch of the US is totally responsible for this midnight massacre! President Obama ordered Holmes to go crazy, use an AR-15, Glocks, and Remington (because we like dem guns) to slaughter those innocents! And even if Obama DIDN’T order Holmes to do it, he should have been standing guard inside the theater! He was derelict in his duty to protect all of us Americans!
AND HOW DARE HE VISIT THE FAMILIES OF THE VICTIMS!
By the way… “Tom’s Nigger”… wow, nice screen name! (/sarcasm)
Alex Jones gonna Alex Jones
I don’t know about the batman shooting, but I always examine that possibility. Many things are staged to advance agendas. For example, it is 100% fact that the “underwear bombing” was staged. Scary to face but true.
I strongly agree. The use of entrapment techniques on the part of law enforcement is a blatant misuse of resources…also unethical and illegal. It happens every day in the US.
Is Tom Jones below your owner?
Who staged the underwear bombing? Was it Fruit of the Loom? ‘Cause I never did trust any underwear brand with fruit in its name.
The Black Muslims make great bean pies. Try one. You’ll agree.
So now the Underwear Bombings was a government job? (Rolling Eyes)
Post your facts and links to other conspiracy whack job sites do not count.
Maybe eye witnesses and government admittance that he had a US govt escort to get him on the flight because he had no passport? It wasn’t meant to blow up, it was meant to further the TSA agenda. All these false flags are meant to further govt control. Go do some real research on the OKC bombing while you are at it. Lots of local authorities spoke out on that one, some were killed.
or 9/11…(strange silence)
All I know is stranger shit has proven to be true.
+1 – a lot more is possible than we choose to believe…
Can we go back to gun reviews and gunshowS? It’s too much
IdahoPete posted earlier:
“Gee, a brilliant, academically gifted PhD candidate, played soccer in high school, a circle of “academically inclined” friends, …
Pardon my stereotyping, but does anyone want to take a bet on this killer being a Democrat, and an active supporter of Obama? If so, you will see the story disappear from the national news cycle in about a week.”
—
Here is an Amazon review written by James Holmes only a few days prior. In it he ridicules “Obamaphiles”
Anyone else wanna claim that the shooter is a Democrat? Anyone?
Are you sure it’s the same Jame Holmes? I have two Robert Greenbrooks within a mile of me, it’s not far fetched that Aurora would have more than one James Holmes.
I don’t care either way, I’m just playing devil’s advocate because a certain “news” outlet already made this intentional gaff–er, mistake.
It doesn’t matter either way, this shooting obviously had about as much to do with politics as the Zimmerman incident…that is to say, none at all until the opportunists made it so.
If you are referring to the comment above about the Amazon post… How many James Holmes that are self professed “gun nuts” and highly intelligent, and neurotic, can there be in one place? Also, look at meta’s comment.
It is highly doubtful that this is merely a coincidence. The probability of two James Holmes with nearly the same traits and same proclivities in the same city sound slim at best.
Read further down. He posts again saying he is infact, a different guy with the same name.
Or there’s the fact that those posts were made on July 22nd, two days after the shooting…
These freaks sell FUD inorder to sell crap from their website. This is like the groups who still try to say we never landed on the moon.
Fear and conspiracy sells. Fear is what sells ADT and other home security products, this made up conspiracy sells this guys books and lectures trying to connect lines that do not connect. Pure BS! There are few in my local gun forum and club that eat this stuff up.
The batman movie shooter fits the mind control mold 100%,,, and yes they want the U.N. global gun control , come hell or high water….
It isn’t Holmes first job. He is a skilled explosives expert. Dick Cheney recruited him to set up the WTC for demolition. Who would suspect a 13 year old?
Mind control yes is very real, and is a true science, the name of the U.S. program is called Mk-ULTRA, this program yes employs the use of drugs, etc, the mastermind of this program was military psychiatrist Sidney Gottlieb, the for runner program was called project Aritchoke run by the C.I.A. another figure in the annals of MK-ULTRA is DR. George Estabrooks – a Harvard-trained psychologist …. you need to do your homework better!
Gollum, is that you?
So you agree that Holmes was the one the wired the WTC for demolition?
seems like we have more that a few change agents here! and don’t give me any truth types!
didn’t they make a movie with george clooney about this? somebody staring at goats or something? yes, the government spends billions and billions of our tax dollars every year and we get our moneys worth each time. no waste, no frivalous programs just trust the government they know what’s best for you.
Can I post on here? Anyone quoting Alex jones needs to check there facts. Do not believe there even is such thing as a false flag operation but they will use this to push for gun control
Is this a false flag attack? I honestly doubt it. The evidence and facts are unavailable.
Have there been false flag attacks before? of course there has been. Though it is easier to dismiss such questions as “conspiracy theory” and drown oneself in mainstream media (which is owned by financial conglomerates).
Not sure about all of this, but I DO find it odd that victims reported loud bangs and tear gas… you cant just get those over the counter.. right?
Also please take note : The Reds have had very great success with brain washing, take note of John Mc Cain , ( a true communist) who is a major player in gun control, and was the major player to see that our P.O.W. and M.I.A. were left behind..The Real Manchurian Candidate….and last the major news media is all controlled, so that everything they ever said is a lie or a smoke screen so the sheeple never see the truth……..
Can’t tell if srs or just trolling -_-
It is weird that just about every time there is a gun control bill coming out there is a major shooting that the media covers extensively. The United Nations has a law they are trying to pass that would take the guns away from the people and make the dictators more powerful.
I’m not sure but I do believe that just about every shooter/s has had some psychiatric ‘help’ in their past.
I don’t how true this report is but it is interesting.
“Most important to note about James Holmes, however, this report says, is that his father, Robert Holmes, was said to have been scheduled to testify within the next few weeks before a US Senate panel on the largest bank fraud scandal in world history that is currently unfolding and threatens to destabilize and destroy the Western banking system. Robert Holmes, whose “blueblood” family links go back to the Mayflower, is known throughout the global banking community as being the creator of one of the most sophisticated computer algorithms ever developed and is credited with developing predictive models for financial services; credit and fraud risk models, first and third party application fraud models and internet/online banking fraud models.
Educated at the University of California, Berkeley and Stanford University, Robert Holmes is currently the senior lead scientist with the American credit score company FICO, which was formally known as Fair, Isaac and Company, and which every American citizen is beholden to should they need to borrow money.”
Mind you I am not saying that there is any sort of conspiracy involved here, however it has to make you stop and wonder, “what are the chances that two of America’s most volatile issues — gun control and the ongoing banking and mortgage crisis and scandal — could be countenanced by a single family?
Nuts-Are-Us
Why are you posting Alex Jones videos. I love that guy but i dont take him seriously.
Can we all say Bat-shit crazy together?
it’s like i’ve said about aj before. if even a third of what he said is true he wouldn’t be able to say it and live. he has an agenda, avoid an honest job and sell his “infowars” products.
I’ll agree about the agenda of pushing his products… all businesses do. Some love to capitalize on whatever they can.
You also may be right about the knowledge and his demise… then again, if the rest of his stuff can be proven wrong, it casts doubt on all of it, and thus might be allowed to continue as long as he’s considered a kook and not taken seriously. That’s what makes conspiracy theories just theories and not immediately silenced before they can be spread. Of course, the other side of a conspiracy theory is, that there is no facts at all.
I think every one of the first four posts on this shooting on TTAG had at least one person claiming it was a false-flag operation.
There will always be a crazy opinion or two, and the beauty of this country is that they are free to be crazy.
All terrorist acts are, in effect, staged by government in the sense that each one is a failure on the part of law and on the part of law enforcement officers to protect the citizens. The government assumes all authority in our society, therefore they should be held responsible for the failures of the system. In this case the executive branch of government is particularly guilty. Defensive resources have been misdirected to foreign lands and perpetrators of violence have been empowered by laws against noncoercive actions.
There is no rhyme or reason to this post. The government’s duty is to protect order, not to protect each and every citizen. Realistically, it is impossible for the “government” to possibly meet such a burden except in a society devoid of freedom. Mental illness is not a “failure of the system” but a breakdown of an individual that is statistically certain to occur within a certain percentage of the population; without mind reading or mind control (i.e. Minority Report), preventing acts by any given individual is statistically impossible. The government should be held responsible for certain governmental actions (up to a point that goes too far beyond the scope of the thread to explicate), but cannot be held responsible for the actions of nongovernmental persons or entities. Defendsive resources sent overseas? You do realize, of course, that the US Military, outside of the National Guard Militia, is stautorily prohibited from being used in a law wnforcement capacity in this country. For some reason, our forefathers had a big issue with standing armies–I think it had something to do with the British Army’s impreial control of the colonists.
YES, the executive branch of the US is totally responsible for this midnight massacre! President Obama ordered Holmes to go crazy, use an AR-15, Glocks, and Remington (because we like dem guns) to slaughter those innocents! And even if Obama DIDN’T order Holmes to do it, he should have been standing guard inside the theater! He was derelict in his duty to protect all of us Americans!
AND HOW DARE HE VISIT THE FAMILIES OF THE VICTIMS!
By the way… “Tom’s Nigger”… wow, nice screen name! (/sarcasm)
Alex Jones gonna Alex Jones
I don’t know about the batman shooting, but I always examine that possibility. Many things are staged to advance agendas. For example, it is 100% fact that the “underwear bombing” was staged. Scary to face but true.
I strongly agree. The use of entrapment techniques on the part of law enforcement is a blatant misuse of resources…also unethical and illegal. It happens every day in the US.
Is Tom Jones below your owner?
Who staged the underwear bombing? Was it Fruit of the Loom? ‘Cause I never did trust any underwear brand with fruit in its name.
What about the Fruit of Islam?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fruit_of_Islam
The Black Muslims make great bean pies. Try one. You’ll agree.
So now the Underwear Bombings was a government job? (Rolling Eyes)
Post your facts and links to other conspiracy whack job sites do not count.
Maybe eye witnesses and government admittance that he had a US govt escort to get him on the flight because he had no passport? It wasn’t meant to blow up, it was meant to further the TSA agenda. All these false flags are meant to further govt control. Go do some real research on the OKC bombing while you are at it. Lots of local authorities spoke out on that one, some were killed.
or 9/11…(strange silence)
All I know is stranger shit has proven to be true.
+1 – a lot more is possible than we choose to believe…
Can we go back to gun reviews and gunshowS? It’s too much
IdahoPete posted earlier:
“Gee, a brilliant, academically gifted PhD candidate, played soccer in high school, a circle of “academically inclined” friends, …
Pardon my stereotyping, but does anyone want to take a bet on this killer being a Democrat, and an active supporter of Obama? If so, you will see the story disappear from the national news cycle in about a week.”
—
Here is an Amazon review written by James Holmes only a few days prior. In it he ridicules “Obamaphiles”
http://www.amazon.com/review/R20FG69BFU1SS9/ref=cm_aya_cmt?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B005D24RYU#wasThisHelpful
How is that bet going?
Anyone else wanna claim that the shooter is a Democrat? Anyone?
Are you sure it’s the same Jame Holmes? I have two Robert Greenbrooks within a mile of me, it’s not far fetched that Aurora would have more than one James Holmes.
I don’t care either way, I’m just playing devil’s advocate because a certain “news” outlet already made this intentional gaff–er, mistake.
It doesn’t matter either way, this shooting obviously had about as much to do with politics as the Zimmerman incident…that is to say, none at all until the opportunists made it so.
If you are referring to the comment above about the Amazon post… How many James Holmes that are self professed “gun nuts” and highly intelligent, and neurotic, can there be in one place? Also, look at meta’s comment.
It is highly doubtful that this is merely a coincidence. The probability of two James Holmes with nearly the same traits and same proclivities in the same city sound slim at best.
Read further down. He posts again saying he is infact, a different guy with the same name.
Or there’s the fact that those posts were made on July 22nd, two days after the shooting…
These freaks sell FUD inorder to sell crap from their website. This is like the groups who still try to say we never landed on the moon.
Fear and conspiracy sells. Fear is what sells ADT and other home security products, this made up conspiracy sells this guys books and lectures trying to connect lines that do not connect. Pure BS! There are few in my local gun forum and club that eat this stuff up.
We need mask control now!
http://www.ramzpaul.com/2012/07/the-aurora-shooting.html?m=1
The batman movie shooter fits the mind control mold 100%,,, and yes they want the U.N. global gun control , come hell or high water….
It isn’t Holmes first job. He is a skilled explosives expert. Dick Cheney recruited him to set up the WTC for demolition. Who would suspect a 13 year old?
Mind control yes is very real, and is a true science, the name of the U.S. program is called Mk-ULTRA, this program yes employs the use of drugs, etc, the mastermind of this program was military psychiatrist Sidney Gottlieb, the for runner program was called project Aritchoke run by the C.I.A. another figure in the annals of MK-ULTRA is DR. George Estabrooks – a Harvard-trained psychologist …. you need to do your homework better!
Gollum, is that you?
So you agree that Holmes was the one the wired the WTC for demolition?
seems like we have more that a few change agents here! and don’t give me any truth types!
didn’t they make a movie with george clooney about this? somebody staring at goats or something? yes, the government spends billions and billions of our tax dollars every year and we get our moneys worth each time. no waste, no frivalous programs just trust the government they know what’s best for you.
Can I post on here? Anyone quoting Alex jones needs to check there facts. Do not believe there even is such thing as a false flag operation but they will use this to push for gun control
Is this a false flag attack? I honestly doubt it. The evidence and facts are unavailable.
Have there been false flag attacks before? of course there has been. Though it is easier to dismiss such questions as “conspiracy theory” and drown oneself in mainstream media (which is owned by financial conglomerates).
Not sure about all of this, but I DO find it odd that victims reported loud bangs and tear gas… you cant just get those over the counter.. right?
Also please take note : The Reds have had very great success with brain washing, take note of John Mc Cain , ( a true communist) who is a major player in gun control, and was the major player to see that our P.O.W. and M.I.A. were left behind..The Real Manchurian Candidate….and last the major news media is all controlled, so that everything they ever said is a lie or a smoke screen so the sheeple never see the truth……..
Can’t tell if srs or just trolling -_-
It is weird that just about every time there is a gun control bill coming out there is a major shooting that the media covers extensively. The United Nations has a law they are trying to pass that would take the guns away from the people and make the dictators more powerful.
I’m not sure but I do believe that just about every shooter/s has had some psychiatric ‘help’ in their past.
I don’t how true this report is but it is interesting.
“Most important to note about James Holmes, however, this report says, is that his father, Robert Holmes, was said to have been scheduled to testify within the next few weeks before a US Senate panel on the largest bank fraud scandal in world history that is currently unfolding and threatens to destabilize and destroy the Western banking system. Robert Holmes, whose “blueblood” family links go back to the Mayflower, is known throughout the global banking community as being the creator of one of the most sophisticated computer algorithms ever developed and is credited with developing predictive models for financial services; credit and fraud risk models, first and third party application fraud models and internet/online banking fraud models.
Educated at the University of California, Berkeley and Stanford University, Robert Holmes is currently the senior lead scientist with the American credit score company FICO, which was formally known as Fair, Isaac and Company, and which every American citizen is beholden to should they need to borrow money.”
Mind you I am not saying that there is any sort of conspiracy involved here, however it has to make you stop and wonder, “what are the chances that two of America’s most volatile issues — gun control and the ongoing banking and mortgage crisis and scandal — could be countenanced by a single family?
http://mortgagemovies.blogspot.com/2012/07/kingcast-and-mortgage-movies-remain.html
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