Better get there early before the local homeless hog all the bandwidth porn streaming.
joe bidens America. Poverty and misery for all.
Mine have all worked great. It helps if you’re not inept. Another miss for Jeremy. Even Military Arms Channel sings their praises now…
Agreed. Meme fail Jeremy. I have, and have had tons of handguns, including Ruger, Smith and Wesson, Glock, Colt, CZ, Springfield, and many others. My Taurus G3C is a perfectly acceptable budget handgun. I haven’t had any problems with it. Some of the others are a little better, but the G3C is alright, and was pretty darn inexpensive.
Are you posting this from a library somewhere?
Perhaps Jeremy is a “Gucci Gun” snob. Besides, everybody know the homeless’ firearm of choice is the Highpoint.
Ain’t that the truth.
I pledge allegiance to the Biden of the USSA and to the Democratic Peoples Republic for which he stands. One socialist s**t hole, under Marxism, with poverty and misery for all (except the ruling elites).
ROFLMAO. Finally got an “awaiting moderation”.
Huh. I own three Taurii.
Guess it’s off to the library for me.
Me too…
[Latin nerd]
Just one ‘i’, Tauri. Two would mean the singular was Taurius.
[/Latin nerd]
Now that I’ve annoyed everyone, I’ll be on my way.
Taurus……I now know my gladiator name.
Ima gonna look that up at the liberry.
The only Latin that I know is “Molon labe.” Well, that and Desi Arnaz.
“Two would mean the singular was Taurius.”
But I have three.
Besides, most people have two i’s unless they’re a pirate. Or played with a BB gun as a kid.
Never understood all that Taurus hate out there. They had some real turds here and there. But most of the ones I had worked just fine. :p
I had 3 Taurus revolvers at different times. They worked. Just fine. I have never yet used one of their semi auto’s so I can’t pass judgement on them.
Two revolvers — an 85 that’s over 20 years old, and a 5-year-old 85 Ultralight. Semi-auto: a 709 Slim that’s never been fired. (Long story — bought it for the wife …)
I bought a new PT111 when they came out, and it failed after about 100 rounds. Fixed under warranty and traded it in on the Ultralight.
(Man, this library computer isn’t half bad.)
I haven’t been in a library in years.
I mostly had the Beretta clones Taurus make, those were great.
And I heard that the PT111 series was always kind of a problem child. Problems with bad frame cracking and then problems with not being drop safe. I even had a first gen P24/7 .45 that was covered under that same drop safe recall. I absolutely love that 24/7. The one I had oddly had a really great trigger. Lots better than other DAO I’ve shot over the years.
“I haven’t been in a library in years“
No doubt.
Well, there is this new-fangled invention that they call the “internet.”
And another called “Kindle.” Or haven’t you heard of them?
Dog of War, I STILL have a first gen 24/7 pro in .45. After throwing it at various angles against a (carpeted) concrete patio with a primed case in the chamber, I got tired on around attempt number 30… no accidental discharge. Didn’t send it in for their “recall” where they kept it and sent a voucher for a third of the price on another Taurus product. Still carry it on occasion, loaded with 124 p IMI hollow points
Well Whiner, why not invite JWM to the next Trans story hour.
Would surprise me in the least if you’re the guest reader. 🙄
its simple really:
because some people
have allowed their identities
and sense of self worth
to become connected
to whatever their favorite pistol is
and in order to make themselves feel better about themselves
they to running down other peoples guns
its pretty sad really
If you trash talk my Lorcin I’ll shoot you with my HiPoint.
Given the choice then, I’ll trash your Hi-Point and get shot by your Lorcin. Hi-Points usually work, and come in larger calibers than Lorcins. 😉
That first shot didnt miss, it was a warning shot, and as soon as I get this damned thing unjammed I’ll shoot at you again.
I guess brand-bashing is fun for some folks. This one seems to be almost on a par with penis jokes by the anti-gunners.
The self firing Tauruses can defend themselves.
so can the self firing sigs
awake just spiked the mic like a Pittsburgh Steeler.
True, but this post is about bashing Tauruses. We can bash Sigs next week.
lol
This is closer to how I see Kel-Tec.
Lets see… I had a taurus 357 that literally cracked in half and fell apart in my hand. It took 18 months and me screaming on the phone for 2 hours to get them to replace it. I had a 40 cal handgun of theirs that went back twice in 1000 rounds before I ended up selling it. I had another taurus revolver that had to get a spring replaced. None of these were ever abused or even shot a whole lot. I currently own a taurus 38 snubnose that I can’t even get $150 for on the used market.
The G2C is a good gun though, I have 2 of those.
The G2C can be a challenge to carry concealed with a 32-round magazine…
ive had 4 different taurus pistols in the last 30 years
all worked great
and none of them were recalled
cant say the same about my guns from colt glock smith and wesson kimber walther etc
I’ve owned 2 over the years, and while I never shot them a whole lot, but both never malfunctioned on me.
The .357 was a 6-round revolver in stainless, and the 9mm was an aluminum-frame stainless slide Beretta 92 clone. I had worries the semi-auto might eventually fail as stainless is a lot harder than aluminum, but the one I had just worked. Both were mid-1990s vintage…
So what was the joke?
The joke is spending $6000 on gunms and gear when gasoline is $50 a gallon.
The joke is the FJB admin bragging about corporate handouts to internet service providers under the guise of helping the poors have internet access when every locality has a public library with free internet access that virtually nobody uses…because they don’t need it!
I’m confused, does the Taurus owner go to the library because hes a grey man or is it because the subterranean den doesn’t have a computer. If the den doesn’t have a computer then how would the Taurus owner know what was being said about Taurus on the internet?.
Or does this meme mean Taurus owners are grey man paranoids who live in a subterranean den and are afraid to use their personal computer?.
Yes.
Or maybe it’s a diss that Taurus owner ain’t got the money for a pc?
I’m going for option C
Guilty.
I would buy an F150, but I never did like the Taurus.
Nah man… I seent em try it in person! Right to my face!
The audacity of this bitch!
I’ve had several Tarus hand guns over the years. Never had a problem with any of them. Always worked well.
I’ve had US made and German made hand guns malfunction from time to time. Had a S&W with a horrible trigger pull. Had a Colt Trooper get out of time and misalign on Da trigger pull.
Guess the haters gonna hate.
For a moderately priced, reasonably well made weapon, the Tarus isn’t a bad brand name. Better than some of the real junk coming out of the far east or eastern Europe.
Lol
Worked at a gun counter for ten years. Tauruses were mostly okay, though literally one of the two worst, most unreliable handguns I’ve ever owned was a Taurus PT-101 (the close, 2nd least reliable was a bona fide West German Sig P225/P6, which jammed at least 2-3 times per every box of ammo and I had 5 different factory magazines and none seemed to make a difference, it still jammed–how do you screw up single-stack 9mm? Sig somehow managed).
With my lemon Taurus I chalked it up to a mediocre design using a poorly-shaped cartridge (.40S&W) for that frame (which was based on a Beretta 92). My biggest gripe with Taurus as a company was their customer support, while I was behind the counter anyway.
Overall they make decent firearms for a fair price, and I hear over the years they’ve vastly improved their customer support.
I’ve had a few Kel-Tecs too, and mostly positive there (I really like that they keep coming up with new and novel firearm designs/concepts).
Yeah, my PT1911 really helped me to learn malfunction drills. I should probably run a malfunction drill with my G19 at some point.
Every brand is fair game. I own four Taurus pistols:
738: works perfectly
Tx-22: works perfectly
G2C: ate recoil spring assembly at 500 rounds, replaced with all steel aftermarket piece
709: light primer strikes with all ammo brands except Fiocchi. Sent to Taurus, received it back with the front sight loose in the box, still won’t shoot anything except Fiocchi. Sits in the safe because I cannot in good conscience curse somebody with it.
My Taurus story started with a beginners pistol class. Took the wife & daughter so they would get more than just my perspective. The teacher is a pro shooter who works at the store and range. He bad-mouthed Taurus and said they won’t sell them in the store, too many returns. After an hour or so of info that was otherwise ok, he took us over to the range to burn a little .22 ammo, and had S&W Victory pistols at the stations. The one at my daughter’s station choked on every other shot. Pow, jam, clear, pow, jam, clear, etc., like clockwork. He got her a different one, and pow, pow, pow. A few days later, we’re at a different range, with our 3 Taurus pistols, never missed a beat. Haters gonna hate, but we’re gonna shoot.
Jeremy, don’t you think we have enough REAL enemies — real honest-to-God people who hate us, want to strip us of God-given and Constitutional rights and who would happily load us in the boxcars headed east — to spend time taking shots at other people in our culture? Cheap shot dude.
Michael B
But there Is NO GOD remember.
Some people hate us
Some people want us extradited
They all would like us dead
Gunms is to theBiden what the jews were to Hitler.
My first gun was a Taurus Tracker .357 that I got rid of a few years later when it developed problems with cylinder timing. In the past year I picked up a G2C and a TX22 with no issues to report to date, though I readily confess that they are low round-count samples and that it took me 15 years to get over that first one.
Wait a minute here, something seems off here.
Are you saying that libraries are still a thing?
It’s where you go to meet the medical health insurance lady that has a better a better a better plan.
A ‘library’ isn’t so much a place to go anymore as much as something you access. The thing I find more interesting in this meme is that the individuals depicted likely have never been there and wouldn’t know there might be computers there anyway. Personally, this might have been funny twenty years ago. Now it has more of a Seattle/LA Walking Dead kinda feel to it.
They aren’t used much, but they’re still around. I use them for work when I’m away from the home base. I used to look for a FedEx Office or a Subway, but libraries are better and every single community has one. I keep my laptop with me, but I’m used to having dual monitors, plus I need a workspace, so a local library works great. Plus, it’s usually just 10 cents to print something.
About the only people that frequent libraries now are a few retirement age individuals, and they’re almost always women. 95% of librarians are women as well. Hardly anyone uses the computers. It’s very different from ten years ago. I was ending my office lease, so I thought I would save a couple months of paying for a commercial phone line. I switched my number to a cell phone and cut off the business line. I thought I could just run over to the library for an hour or so for daily internet use. The library was a few blocks from my office. The computers were packed back then. There was a full time cop there who’s only job was to constantly walk in a circle looking at everyone’s monitor. Imagine getting stuck with that job!
Ordinary law abiding armed citizens (not law enforcement or armed security) stop ‘active shooters’ thousands of times annually in the United States. It rarely makes the news and doesn’t make it into stats as stopping an ‘active shooter’ because the defender gets to the brandishing stage and the ‘active shooters’ flee when they see the gun so there are rarely shots fired by the defender. In fact, defenders in all cases of defense only fire less than 5% of the time and the rest (95%) of the bad guys are stopped by being repelled when the defender brandishes or (sometimes) warns they will shoot.
The FBI defines ‘active shooter’ as one or more individuals actively engaged in killing or attempting to kill people in a populated area. Implicit in this definition is the shooter’s use of one or more firearms.
The anti-gun industry claims the ‘good guy with a gun’ is a myth when it comes to ordinary law abiding armed citizens, yet thousands of times a year just in one aspect alone of the ‘active shooter’ the ordinary law abiding armed citizen ‘good guy with a gun’ acts to save lives from injury or death and does so successfully at a 94% rate. Armed security and law enforcement, collectively, have less than a 12% success rate, because they are not there when the ‘active shooter’ becomes known and is prepared to fire.
Yet, sometimes something does make the news that shows anti-gun to be wrong and the ordinary law abiding armed citizen ‘good guy with a gun’ is a real thing after all.
Basically, a potential ‘mass shooting’ stopped before the ‘active shooter’ could begin.
Gasp! Something anti-gun says does not happen happened again (for one of the thousands of times daily across the United States, rarely makes the news, doesn’t make it into stats – only about 11% of the crime in the U.S. makes it into stats, 89% of violent crime perpetrators are never identified and caught).
Across the United States daily, ~1,300 victims of knife attack happen.
There are just those times when one should not comply or attempt to de-escalate, and those times when you just can’t avoid or get away – that leaves you face to face with a violent threat.
Overall: Thousands of times daily across the United States ordinary law abiding citizens come face to face with violent criminals who will harm them even if they comply with the criminals demands. The “comply with the criminal and they will not harm you” is a fairy tale authorities tell the public to give them hope they will survive a violent criminal action or attack, yet sometimes it does work but it does not work all the time. But examples of what compliance gets you (graphic content)
Overall: In over 75% of those cases where the victim is not armed with a firearm and complies the victim is seriously injured or killed. Pepper spray and tasers (collectively) work about 8% of the time to repel the attacker before harm can be done to the victim, and other physical means (hands,feet, objects) work about 3% of the time to repel the attacker before harm can be done to the victim. In cases where the victim is armed with a firearm over 80% of the victims do not suffer any injury, and only 2% are not successful in their defensive gun use and are killed. And sure, there are sometimes cases where there would not be a chance to use a firearm.
According to Kleck’s “Point Blank: Guns and Violence in America” – the leading authority on the subject of compliance:
1. Any form of resistance, except with firearm, carries with it an injury rate of 52%.
2. Resistance with a firearm carried with it the risk of injury of 17%, but use of a firearm early in an encounter carries with it a risk of injury of 6%.
Overall, in Kleck, you have a minimum of a 25% chance of being injured if you comply, but you are 4 time less likely to be injured if you have your firearm and are prepared to use it.
Take away here summary: compliance may still result in injury (which includes death), resistance without a firearm carries a 52% chance of injury (which includes death), resistance with a firearm lowers chance of injury (which includes death) to 17%, resistance with a firearm early in the encounter further lowers risk of injury (which includes death) to 6%
If you are armed are you willing to gamble that you are not in the 25%?
if you are not armed are you willing to gamble that you are not in the 52%?
Compliance or not, resistance or not – is not a decision one needs to make. The answer is already provided, non-compliance via firearms resistance offers the best chance of less injury. But if you want, you can roll the dice and take the chance of being a good-n-dead witness.
Ive owned 2. Both broke and big T fixed them then I sold them. There will not be a 3rd. I rank the bull right up there with Kimber and Keltec. Two other brands I will never own again.
Kimber ain’t cheap but a lot of love & hate there. Wouldn’t mind their revolver…
meme suggests budget weapon owners are luddites.
should have been an image of sausages dancing like ray bolger on the hood of a car in a traffic jam.
we’re not cheap, we prize function.
Speak for yourself — I’m cheap.
Or as my ex-wife once told me, “You’re not cheap — you’re just tight.” And she meant it as a compliment.
No one has called me “thrifty” since I was in the Boy Scouts.
Picked up a G3 and a G3C a few months ago. Both work fine, about 500 rounds through each with no issues. Like the feel of the grip better than a Sig P228. Not one glitch with both Taurus pistols so far. Both were under $300.00, so there’s that.
Hey, stay out of my business.
“Like I can afford a pricey Taurus, LOL”
It’s a Rock Island………
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Another elitist gear post
Ahhh, more noob smugness from the bespoke beards of the Austin “Hill Country.” Except all this has shown is that the maker has no real firearms knowledge to speak of, otherwise they’d know that Smith revolvers come with just as many foibles (honestly, probably more) and get sent back to the factory just as often. I have a PT1911 from its first runs. When we are shooting 1911s, everyone marvels at its trigger, even the dingleberries who spent $1900 on their 1911. Marketing is meant to make a fool of the big spender. It’s why every BMW owner quietly keeps the number of trips to the dealer under wraps. But those are big in the “hill country,” too, aren’t they???
Better get there early before the local homeless hog all the bandwidth porn streaming.
joe bidens America. Poverty and misery for all.
Mine have all worked great. It helps if you’re not inept. Another miss for Jeremy. Even Military Arms Channel sings their praises now…
Agreed. Meme fail Jeremy. I have, and have had tons of handguns, including Ruger, Smith and Wesson, Glock, Colt, CZ, Springfield, and many others. My Taurus G3C is a perfectly acceptable budget handgun. I haven’t had any problems with it. Some of the others are a little better, but the G3C is alright, and was pretty darn inexpensive.
Are you posting this from a library somewhere?
Perhaps Jeremy is a “Gucci Gun” snob. Besides, everybody know the homeless’ firearm of choice is the Highpoint.
Ain’t that the truth.
I pledge allegiance to the Biden of the USSA and to the Democratic Peoples Republic for which he stands. One socialist s**t hole, under Marxism, with poverty and misery for all (except the ruling elites).
ROFLMAO. Finally got an “awaiting moderation”.
Huh. I own three Taurii.
Guess it’s off to the library for me.
Me too…
[Latin nerd]
Just one ‘i’, Tauri. Two would mean the singular was Taurius.
[/Latin nerd]
Now that I’ve annoyed everyone, I’ll be on my way.
Taurus……I now know my gladiator name.
Ima gonna look that up at the liberry.
The only Latin that I know is “Molon labe.” Well, that and Desi Arnaz.
“Two would mean the singular was Taurius.”
But I have three.
Besides, most people have two i’s unless they’re a pirate. Or played with a BB gun as a kid.
Never understood all that Taurus hate out there. They had some real turds here and there. But most of the ones I had worked just fine. :p
I had 3 Taurus revolvers at different times. They worked. Just fine. I have never yet used one of their semi auto’s so I can’t pass judgement on them.
Two revolvers — an 85 that’s over 20 years old, and a 5-year-old 85 Ultralight. Semi-auto: a 709 Slim that’s never been fired. (Long story — bought it for the wife …)
I bought a new PT111 when they came out, and it failed after about 100 rounds. Fixed under warranty and traded it in on the Ultralight.
(Man, this library computer isn’t half bad.)
I haven’t been in a library in years.
I mostly had the Beretta clones Taurus make, those were great.
And I heard that the PT111 series was always kind of a problem child. Problems with bad frame cracking and then problems with not being drop safe. I even had a first gen P24/7 .45 that was covered under that same drop safe recall. I absolutely love that 24/7. The one I had oddly had a really great trigger. Lots better than other DAO I’ve shot over the years.
“I haven’t been in a library in years“
No doubt.
Well, there is this new-fangled invention that they call the “internet.”
And another called “Kindle.” Or haven’t you heard of them?
Dog of War, I STILL have a first gen 24/7 pro in .45. After throwing it at various angles against a (carpeted) concrete patio with a primed case in the chamber, I got tired on around attempt number 30… no accidental discharge. Didn’t send it in for their “recall” where they kept it and sent a voucher for a third of the price on another Taurus product. Still carry it on occasion, loaded with 124 p IMI hollow points
Well Whiner, why not invite JWM to the next Trans story hour.
Would surprise me in the least if you’re the guest reader. 🙄
its simple really:
because some people
have allowed their identities
and sense of self worth
to become connected
to whatever their favorite pistol is
and in order to make themselves feel better about themselves
they to running down other peoples guns
its pretty sad really
If you trash talk my Lorcin I’ll shoot you with my HiPoint.
Given the choice then, I’ll trash your Hi-Point and get shot by your Lorcin. Hi-Points usually work, and come in larger calibers than Lorcins. 😉
That first shot didnt miss, it was a warning shot, and as soon as I get this damned thing unjammed I’ll shoot at you again.
I guess brand-bashing is fun for some folks. This one seems to be almost on a par with penis jokes by the anti-gunners.
The self firing Tauruses can defend themselves.
so can the self firing sigs
awake just spiked the mic like a Pittsburgh Steeler.
True, but this post is about bashing Tauruses. We can bash Sigs next week.
lol
This is closer to how I see Kel-Tec.
Lets see… I had a taurus 357 that literally cracked in half and fell apart in my hand. It took 18 months and me screaming on the phone for 2 hours to get them to replace it. I had a 40 cal handgun of theirs that went back twice in 1000 rounds before I ended up selling it. I had another taurus revolver that had to get a spring replaced. None of these were ever abused or even shot a whole lot. I currently own a taurus 38 snubnose that I can’t even get $150 for on the used market.
The G2C is a good gun though, I have 2 of those.
The G2C can be a challenge to carry concealed with a 32-round magazine…
ive had 4 different taurus pistols in the last 30 years
all worked great
and none of them were recalled
cant say the same about my guns from colt glock smith and wesson kimber walther etc
I’ve owned 2 over the years, and while I never shot them a whole lot, but both never malfunctioned on me.
The .357 was a 6-round revolver in stainless, and the 9mm was an aluminum-frame stainless slide Beretta 92 clone. I had worries the semi-auto might eventually fail as stainless is a lot harder than aluminum, but the one I had just worked. Both were mid-1990s vintage…
So what was the joke?
The joke is spending $6000 on gunms and gear when gasoline is $50 a gallon.
The joke is the FJB admin bragging about corporate handouts to internet service providers under the guise of helping the poors have internet access when every locality has a public library with free internet access that virtually nobody uses…because they don’t need it!
I’m confused, does the Taurus owner go to the library because hes a grey man or is it because the subterranean den doesn’t have a computer. If the den doesn’t have a computer then how would the Taurus owner know what was being said about Taurus on the internet?.
Or does this meme mean Taurus owners are grey man paranoids who live in a subterranean den and are afraid to use their personal computer?.
Yes.
Or maybe it’s a diss that Taurus owner ain’t got the money for a pc?
I’m going for option C
Guilty.
I would buy an F150, but I never did like the Taurus.
Nah man… I seent em try it in person! Right to my face!
The audacity of this bitch!
I’ve had several Tarus hand guns over the years. Never had a problem with any of them. Always worked well.
I’ve had US made and German made hand guns malfunction from time to time. Had a S&W with a horrible trigger pull. Had a Colt Trooper get out of time and misalign on Da trigger pull.
Guess the haters gonna hate.
For a moderately priced, reasonably well made weapon, the Tarus isn’t a bad brand name. Better than some of the real junk coming out of the far east or eastern Europe.
Lol
Worked at a gun counter for ten years. Tauruses were mostly okay, though literally one of the two worst, most unreliable handguns I’ve ever owned was a Taurus PT-101 (the close, 2nd least reliable was a bona fide West German Sig P225/P6, which jammed at least 2-3 times per every box of ammo and I had 5 different factory magazines and none seemed to make a difference, it still jammed–how do you screw up single-stack 9mm? Sig somehow managed).
With my lemon Taurus I chalked it up to a mediocre design using a poorly-shaped cartridge (.40S&W) for that frame (which was based on a Beretta 92). My biggest gripe with Taurus as a company was their customer support, while I was behind the counter anyway.
Overall they make decent firearms for a fair price, and I hear over the years they’ve vastly improved their customer support.
I’ve had a few Kel-Tecs too, and mostly positive there (I really like that they keep coming up with new and novel firearm designs/concepts).
Yeah, my PT1911 really helped me to learn malfunction drills. I should probably run a malfunction drill with my G19 at some point.
Every brand is fair game. I own four Taurus pistols:
738: works perfectly
Tx-22: works perfectly
G2C: ate recoil spring assembly at 500 rounds, replaced with all steel aftermarket piece
709: light primer strikes with all ammo brands except Fiocchi. Sent to Taurus, received it back with the front sight loose in the box, still won’t shoot anything except Fiocchi. Sits in the safe because I cannot in good conscience curse somebody with it.
My Taurus story started with a beginners pistol class. Took the wife & daughter so they would get more than just my perspective. The teacher is a pro shooter who works at the store and range. He bad-mouthed Taurus and said they won’t sell them in the store, too many returns. After an hour or so of info that was otherwise ok, he took us over to the range to burn a little .22 ammo, and had S&W Victory pistols at the stations. The one at my daughter’s station choked on every other shot. Pow, jam, clear, pow, jam, clear, etc., like clockwork. He got her a different one, and pow, pow, pow. A few days later, we’re at a different range, with our 3 Taurus pistols, never missed a beat. Haters gonna hate, but we’re gonna shoot.
Jeremy, don’t you think we have enough REAL enemies — real honest-to-God people who hate us, want to strip us of God-given and Constitutional rights and who would happily load us in the boxcars headed east — to spend time taking shots at other people in our culture? Cheap shot dude.
Michael B
But there Is NO GOD remember.
Some people hate us
Some people want us extradited
They all would like us dead
Gunms is to theBiden what the jews were to Hitler.
My first gun was a Taurus Tracker .357 that I got rid of a few years later when it developed problems with cylinder timing. In the past year I picked up a G2C and a TX22 with no issues to report to date, though I readily confess that they are low round-count samples and that it took me 15 years to get over that first one.
Wait a minute here, something seems off here.
Are you saying that libraries are still a thing?
It’s where you go to meet the medical health insurance lady that has a better a better a better plan.
A ‘library’ isn’t so much a place to go anymore as much as something you access. The thing I find more interesting in this meme is that the individuals depicted likely have never been there and wouldn’t know there might be computers there anyway. Personally, this might have been funny twenty years ago. Now it has more of a Seattle/LA Walking Dead kinda feel to it.
They aren’t used much, but they’re still around. I use them for work when I’m away from the home base. I used to look for a FedEx Office or a Subway, but libraries are better and every single community has one. I keep my laptop with me, but I’m used to having dual monitors, plus I need a workspace, so a local library works great. Plus, it’s usually just 10 cents to print something.
About the only people that frequent libraries now are a few retirement age individuals, and they’re almost always women. 95% of librarians are women as well. Hardly anyone uses the computers. It’s very different from ten years ago. I was ending my office lease, so I thought I would save a couple months of paying for a commercial phone line. I switched my number to a cell phone and cut off the business line. I thought I could just run over to the library for an hour or so for daily internet use. The library was a few blocks from my office. The computers were packed back then. There was a full time cop there who’s only job was to constantly walk in a circle looking at everyone’s monitor. Imagine getting stuck with that job!
Ordinary law abiding armed citizens (not law enforcement or armed security) stop ‘active shooters’ thousands of times annually in the United States. It rarely makes the news and doesn’t make it into stats as stopping an ‘active shooter’ because the defender gets to the brandishing stage and the ‘active shooters’ flee when they see the gun so there are rarely shots fired by the defender. In fact, defenders in all cases of defense only fire less than 5% of the time and the rest (95%) of the bad guys are stopped by being repelled when the defender brandishes or (sometimes) warns they will shoot.
The FBI defines ‘active shooter’ as one or more individuals actively engaged in killing or attempting to kill people in a populated area. Implicit in this definition is the shooter’s use of one or more firearms.
The anti-gun industry claims the ‘good guy with a gun’ is a myth when it comes to ordinary law abiding armed citizens, yet thousands of times a year just in one aspect alone of the ‘active shooter’ the ordinary law abiding armed citizen ‘good guy with a gun’ acts to save lives from injury or death and does so successfully at a 94% rate. Armed security and law enforcement, collectively, have less than a 12% success rate, because they are not there when the ‘active shooter’ becomes known and is prepared to fire.
Yet, sometimes something does make the news that shows anti-gun to be wrong and the ordinary law abiding armed citizen ‘good guy with a gun’ is a real thing after all.
August 10, 2022 : Concealed Carrier Shoots And Kills Man Who Had Gun And Threatened To Open Fire At Party > https://www.usacarry.com/concealed-carrier-fatally-shoots-man-threatening-open-fire-party/
Basically, a potential ‘mass shooting’ stopped before the ‘active shooter’ could begin.
Gasp! Something anti-gun says does not happen happened again (for one of the thousands of times daily across the United States, rarely makes the news, doesn’t make it into stats – only about 11% of the crime in the U.S. makes it into stats, 89% of violent crime perpetrators are never identified and caught).
Armed Amazon Driver Shoots Man Wielding Knife And Saying “Knife Fight! Knife Fight!” > https://concealednation.org/2022/08/armed-amazon-driver-shoots-man-wielding-knife-and-saying-knife-fight-knife-fight/
Across the United States daily, ~1,300 victims of knife attack happen.
There are just those times when one should not comply or attempt to de-escalate, and those times when you just can’t avoid or get away – that leaves you face to face with a violent threat.
Overall: Thousands of times daily across the United States ordinary law abiding citizens come face to face with violent criminals who will harm them even if they comply with the criminals demands. The “comply with the criminal and they will not harm you” is a fairy tale authorities tell the public to give them hope they will survive a violent criminal action or attack, yet sometimes it does work but it does not work all the time. But examples of what compliance gets you (graphic content)
https://concealednation.org/2014/09/video-store-clerk-shot-in-head-after-complying-with-robbers-demands/
https://concealednation.org/2021/05/graphic-warning-hotel-manager-fully-complies-with-armed-robber-but-he-murders-her-anyway/
Overall: In over 75% of those cases where the victim is not armed with a firearm and complies the victim is seriously injured or killed. Pepper spray and tasers (collectively) work about 8% of the time to repel the attacker before harm can be done to the victim, and other physical means (hands,feet, objects) work about 3% of the time to repel the attacker before harm can be done to the victim. In cases where the victim is armed with a firearm over 80% of the victims do not suffer any injury, and only 2% are not successful in their defensive gun use and are killed. And sure, there are sometimes cases where there would not be a chance to use a firearm.
According to Kleck’s “Point Blank: Guns and Violence in America” – the leading authority on the subject of compliance:
1. Any form of resistance, except with firearm, carries with it an injury rate of 52%.
2. Resistance with a firearm carried with it the risk of injury of 17%, but use of a firearm early in an encounter carries with it a risk of injury of 6%.
Overall, in Kleck, you have a minimum of a 25% chance of being injured if you comply, but you are 4 time less likely to be injured if you have your firearm and are prepared to use it.
Take away here summary: compliance may still result in injury (which includes death), resistance without a firearm carries a 52% chance of injury (which includes death), resistance with a firearm lowers chance of injury (which includes death) to 17%, resistance with a firearm early in the encounter further lowers risk of injury (which includes death) to 6%
If you are armed are you willing to gamble that you are not in the 25%?
if you are not armed are you willing to gamble that you are not in the 52%?
Compliance or not, resistance or not – is not a decision one needs to make. The answer is already provided, non-compliance via firearms resistance offers the best chance of less injury. But if you want, you can roll the dice and take the chance of being a good-n-dead witness.
Ive owned 2. Both broke and big T fixed them then I sold them. There will not be a 3rd. I rank the bull right up there with Kimber and Keltec. Two other brands I will never own again.
Kimber ain’t cheap but a lot of love & hate there. Wouldn’t mind their revolver…
meme suggests budget weapon owners are luddites.
should have been an image of sausages dancing like ray bolger on the hood of a car in a traffic jam.
we’re not cheap, we prize function.
Speak for yourself — I’m cheap.
Or as my ex-wife once told me, “You’re not cheap — you’re just tight.” And she meant it as a compliment.
No one has called me “thrifty” since I was in the Boy Scouts.
Picked up a G3 and a G3C a few months ago. Both work fine, about 500 rounds through each with no issues. Like the feel of the grip better than a Sig P228. Not one glitch with both Taurus pistols so far. Both were under $300.00, so there’s that.
Hey, stay out of my business.
“Like I can afford a pricey Taurus, LOL”
It’s a Rock Island………
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Another elitist gear post
Ahhh, more noob smugness from the bespoke beards of the Austin “Hill Country.” Except all this has shown is that the maker has no real firearms knowledge to speak of, otherwise they’d know that Smith revolvers come with just as many foibles (honestly, probably more) and get sent back to the factory just as often. I have a PT1911 from its first runs. When we are shooting 1911s, everyone marvels at its trigger, even the dingleberries who spent $1900 on their 1911. Marketing is meant to make a fool of the big spender. It’s why every BMW owner quietly keeps the number of trips to the dealer under wraps. But those are big in the “hill country,” too, aren’t they???
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