The Bond Arms Bullpup started out life as the Boberg XR9. TTAG reviewed Arne Boberg’s ballistic bauble back in 2012. We were not impressed. The author’s jam-o-matic experience would soon be shared by Boberg customers. While the design was interesting, the XR9 wasn’t ready for prime time. Enter Gordon Bond …
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nESqd0uvn_k
Bond Arms makes the world’s best derringers. Gordon’s guns are tanks, boasting solid design, world-class machining and extreme product testing. Not to mention Texas-style go-the-extra-mile-for-a-smile customer service. None of which applied to the Boberg design or its founder’s customer relations.
Gordon Bond wanted to break out of his niche (there’s not much more niche than fairly large, heavy, two-shot derringer). Gordon took a shining to the innovative original Boberg. Well, not the pistol as it was. The pistol as it could be …
I’m not sure what engineering and construction challengers Bond Arms faced trying to fix the XR9, but I would have bet they were significant. And I would have won that bet. Bond Arms world-champion cowboy-action shooter Garrett Martin told me that the “new” Bond Arms Bullpup is the company’s ninth or tenth iteration of the XR9.
Man, I hope it was worth it, financially. Because shooting it totally is. But first the tech specs …
The Bond Arms Bullpup uses a locked breech, short recoil design with a rotating barrel. The set-up spreads the recoil over a longer time period while reducing the amount of space occupied by the mechanism.
The Bullpup’s barrel has a lug that runs in a channel in a locking block. After the cartridge ignites the barrel rotates 14 degrees, then unlocks and allows the slide to travel to the rear. Ejection and extraction are similar to most semi-auto handguns.
That tiny spring is not a recoil spring. It’s the slide-return spring (with a service life of around 8,000 rounds). The Bullpup9’s barrel is 3.35-inches long — in a gun that stretches a mere 5.1 inches. That makes the 7+1 Bond Arms Bullpup roughly an inch shorter than the 6+1 GLOCK 43, whose barrel is a measly .04 inch longer.
The stainless-steel slide moves easily; an arthritic septuagenarian could rack the Bullpup. If you know someone who has difficulty chambering a round in a semi-automatic pistol, this is the semi-automatic pistol for them.
I was going to ding the Bullpup for not having a ledge rear sight for single-handed slide racking. I can’t. The slide is so easy to move that even the small amount of vertical space on the rear sight provides enough grip to fully cycle the slide.
What makes the Bullpup a, umm…bullpup? The gun draws the next cartridge backwards from the magazine and lifts it directly inline with the barrel.
“The rearward feeding concept of mechanism is not unique,” Garrett Martin admits. “The Browning-designed M1919 has a rear-feed mechanism that maintains complete control of the round from the magazine to the bore.”
Yeah, but the Bond Bullpup9 isn’t a 30-pound machine gun. It’s a tiny pistol. I’m pretty sure that makes this bullpup design one of a kind.
The Bullpup’s magazine is actually a “magazine-clip” (clip-a-zine?). There’s no follower because it doesn’t need one. The rounds insert forward into the magazine, with the base of the cartridge out and open.
The Bullpup’s trigger doesn’t feel like a 1911, or any striker-fired plastic pistol I’ve ever fired. The hammer-fired double-action-only semi’s trigger feels as smooth and pure and controllable as a Korth’s go-pedal. That’s no exaggeration. The Bullpup’s trigger is that good, right out of the box.
The trigger pulls through a revolver-like length of travel (there is no external safety) without any grit or stack, right until hammer time. The stock trigger breaks with 7.5 pounds or pressure; customers can order a 6.5-pound or 8.5-pound version.
Takedown is super simple. Clear the weapon, drop the magazine, pull the slide back, rotate the takedown lever on the left side of the gun, move slide forward. Easy peasy. Just like the Beretta 92 series or the Sig P series, and many, many others.
The Bullpup’s engraved rosewood scales enable a positive, full grip on the little gun, with the wide backstrap well-positioned along the web of my hand. While the gun’s geometry soaks up recoil, the grips’ wide rear also helps control the impulse.
And renders the Bullpup less concealable. But not by much.
I boot-carried the Bond Arms bullpup and stashed it in an inside-the-waistband holster without difficulty. Customers can order the gun with plastic grips only slightly wider than the frame, which would make the Bond Arms Bullpup a true pocket pistol. Even thinner G10 grips are in the works.
The Bullpup’s sights are a quality drift-adjustable three dots. They’re large enough to deliver an excellent flash sight picture while still facilitating precision shots — more than you have a right to expect on a pistol this size.
Given that the gun loads by withdrawing the round out of the magazine rearwards, locking back on an empty magazine wouldn’t make any sense. After dropping the magazine, you would still have to drop the slide and re-rack the pistol to chamber a new round. So the Bullpup doesn’t lock back on empty. But it does go click.
The Bond Arms website includes a prominent ammunition notice. The issue — the bullet crimp. As previously noted, the Bullpup’s action yanks the bullet backwards to align it with the barrel. Bullets that aren’t well crimped can separate.
True story. When RF was shooting IWI’s 115-grain die cut ammunition, the mechanism pulled a bullet from the case, spilling the powder out and, obviously, causing a malfunction. RF shook the powder out, cycled the action and kept firing.
Since I didn’t know about the notice until later, we just kept shooting. RF and I put at least 350 rounds through the Bullpup. I put another 500 rounds through it since. Only one out of some 400 IWI rounds separated.
Truth be told, of the more than 850 rounds of ammo put through the gun, not a one was on the recommended ammunition list. I shot the last of my Cap Arms 115-grain FMJs, the IMI 115-grain Die Cut round, Wilson Combat 124-grain +P XTP, Wilson Combat 147-grain XTP, Blaser 124-grain FMJ, and Remington’s 115-grain HTP round. No issues of any kind. I never disassembled the gun or provided any maintenance (I forgot to lube it).
I should also note that I almost always ran the gun as 7+1: a full magazine with one in the chamber. Many small pistols, like my Kahr PM9, have issues consistently firing a full load. Not the Bond Arms Bullpup.
When a 9mm pistol’s total length is smaller than my hand, something usually has to give. Most of the time, it’s accuracy. Not so much with the Bullpup.
With any of the rounds mentioned, I was shooting under 4-inch five-round groups at 25 yards. The Wilson Combat 124-grain +P XTP round printed 3.5-inch five-round groups for a 4-group average. Remington’s HTP round shot just a little better. That one shot a groups right at 3 inches, but averaged 3.25 inches because of a few fliers.
That’s impressive bench accuracy for a boot gun from the bench. How it performs off-hand is even more remarkable.
The Bond Arms Bullpup weighs slightly less than the GLOCK 43, but stays on target far better. There’s simply no “snap” when shooting this gun. It recoils more like a compact SIG SAUER P229 than my Kahr PM9.
Fast controlled pairs at 7 yards and under were easy enough, either single handed or double. I tried drawing the Bullpup from the 4 o’clock position, driving the heel of the butt into my ribs and emptying the magazine, as I would a J-Frame Smith & Wesson revolver. The result was highly effective. (Nothing says “get off me” like eight 9mm rounds from zero distance.)
Gordon Bond didn’t invent the Boberg XR9. He perfected it. The Bond Arms Bullpup is a small, reliable, comfortable, easily manipulated, highly concealable, self-defense 9mm pistol with an 8-round capacity. A gun that’s a lot more than merely accurate at combat distances. At a Franklin more than a grand, the Bullpup isn’t cheap. But that’s a price worth paying if you want the ultimate in innovation, quality and utility in an American-made compact pistol.
SPECIFICATIONS:
Caliber: 9x19mm
Grips: Bond Arms Engraved Rosewood Grips
Magazines: 2
Barrel length: 3.35-inch barrel
Overall Length: 5.1 inches
Width .96 inch
Height: 4.2 inches tall
Weight: 17.5 ounces (empty)
Sights: Dovetail drift-adjustable non-illuminated 3-dot
Action: Double-action only (DAO)
Capacity: 7+1
Trigger Pull Weight: 7.5 pounds
MSRP: $1099
RATINGS:
Style and Appearance * * * * *
It’s a different sort of gun, but I like it. It’s built with the kind of flawless finish and minute attention to detail Bond Arms customers have come to expect. The rosewood grips are high quality, beautiful and functional.
Customization * *
So far, you can change the grips to plastic models as well as change the trigger-pull weight. More options on the way.
Reliability * * * * *
The only issue I witnessed was a bullet separation using ammunition not recommended by the manufacturer. I personally shot more than 500 rounds through the gun without issue, and all of it with ammunition not recommended by the manufacturer.
Accuracy * * * * *
Three- to 3.5-inch groups from a gun with a total of length of 5 inches is outstanding. Take into account that it did this with a broad range of ammunition not recommended by the manufacturer. The sight radius is the limiting factor.
Overall * * * * *
The Bond Arms Bullpup deserves six stars. It’s the end result of innovation, improvement and attention to detail. Mouse-gun size, compact-pistol velocity and handling. Outstanding.
Ammunition approved list from BondArms.com:
- Hornady Critical Duty 135 gr. FlexLock
- Hornady Critical Defense 115 gr. FTX
- Barnes Tac-XPD 115 gr.+P TAC-XPD
- Federal Low Recoil 135 gr. Hydra-Shok JHP
- Sig Sauer 124 gr. V-Crown JHP
- Sig Sauer 147 gr. V-Crown JHP
- Federal 124 gr. Hydra-Shok JHP
- Speer Gold Dot 115 gr. GDHP
- Federal HST 124 gr. HST
- Black Hills Ammunition 115 gr. Tac- XP +P
- Sig Sauer 124 gr. JHP
- G2 RIP 92 gr. HP
- G2 Telos 92 gr. HP +P
- Hornady American Gunner
- 115 gr. XTP 1160 FPS Avg.
- Hornady American Gunner
- 124 gr. +P XTP 1100 FPS Avg.
- Hornady Critical Defense Lite
- 110 gr. FTX 1140 FPS Avg.
- Hornady Critical Duty
- 135 gr. +P Flexlock 1060 FPS Avg.
- Hornady Custom
- 147 gr. XTP 928 FPS Avg.
- Sig Sauer Elite V-Crown
- 115 gr. JHP 1186 FPS Avg.
- Armscor
- 124 gr. JHP 1066 FPS Avg.
- Black Hills Ammunition
- 124 gr. JHP 1097 FPS Avg.
- Fiocchi
- 147 gr. XTP 910 FPS Avg.
- Fiocchi
- 124 gr. JHP 1138 FPS Avg.
- Federal Premium Ammunition
- 147 gr. Hydra-Shok 929 FPS Avg.
- Federal Premium Ammunition
- 150 gr. HST Micro 881 FPS Avg.
- Winchester PDX1 Defender
- 147 gr. Bonded JHP 928 FPS Avg.
- Team Never Quit
- 100 gr. Frangible HP 1208 FPS Avg.
- Hevi-DUTY by Hevi Shot
- 100 gr. Frangible HP 1106 FPS Avg.
- Remington
- 115 gr. HTP JHP 1033 FPS Avg.
- Remington
- 115gr. +P HTP JHP 1166 FPS Avg.
- Remington
- 147 gr. HTP JHP 900 FPS Avg.
- Remington
- 124 gr. Golden Saber JHP 1052 FPS Avg.
- Magtech First Defense Guardian Gold
- 115 gr. +P JHP
- NOVX 65 gr. 9mm Luger +P 1800 FPS
Range:
- Monarch Brass 115 gr. FMJ
- American Eagle 115 gr. FMJ
- American Eagle 124 gr. FMJ
- American Eagle 147 gr. FMJ
- American Eagle Syntech 115 gr. TSJ
- Federal RTP 115 gr. FMJ (Range Target Practice)
- Fiocchi 115 gr. FMJ
- Winchester 124 gr. NATO FMJ
- Winchester SXZ 115gr. FMJ
- Winchester SuperClean 90 gr. Zinc FMJ
- Aguila 115 gr. FMJ
- Aguila 124 gr. FMJ
- Aguila 147 gr. FMJ FP
- Browning 115 gr. FMJ
- Sellier & Bellot 115 gr. FMJ
- Winchester White Box 115 gr. FMJ (TOP CHOICE)
- Winchester White Box 124 gr. FMJ
- PMC Bronze 115 gr. FMJ
- Speer Lawman 124 gr. TMJ
- Herters Brass Case 115 gr. FMJ
- MaxxTech 115 gr. FMJ
- Remington UMC 115 gr. FMJ
- Remington UMC Mega Pack 115 gr. FMJ
- Remington Range Bucket 115 gr. FMJ
- Remington UMC Leadless 124 gr. FNEB
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A very interesting concept and I would consider picking one up just for the uniqueness factor alone.
Then I saw the price tag……. PASS
I’m not saying the Bond people aren’t justified in charging that much (I’m sure a good bit of R&D went into this) but $1100 for a 9mm pocket pistol is just too much (until I win the lottery). For that price I could buy 2 G43s, upgrade to night sights, buy extra mags and still have money left over for a case of ammo.
Sure this gun may be “better” in some respects than a G43 but I doubt it’s THAT much better. Still it’s great to see innovation, hopefully it sells well… translated: maybe I can find a good price on a used one heh heh.
Who can put a price on ‘pointless’? Apparently Bond Arms can. What they took off the muzzle they added to the rear of the gun. And barrel length isn’t the issue, it’s grip length that makes a gun hard to conceal.
Uhm, why not just have a Glock? The idea that Century is pawning this off as light weight makes me laugh. Way cheaper too.
They only want to protect it so they can tax it.
Century, a “premier AK manufacturer”?
They’re certainly good at spewing out lots of self-destructing hand grenades that are shaped like AKs
Has anyone seen a P-10c in the wild? I’m somewhat curious, but I’m not the type to buy sight unseen.
Great looking 1911. I’m quite fananitical about Sig products they have quietly been taking over my collection for the last ten years.
If the $$$ on this particular 1911 is more than one would like to spend i’de like to recommend the Sig XO 1911.
Reasonably priced, flawless operation, and one of the most accurate 1911’s I’ve ever owned.
I’m also a fan of Sig for their exemplary customer service. I’ve only had to return one pistol, a compact Nitron that was a law enforcement trade in, for light hammer strikes. Sig rebuilt the slide and I had it back in 8 days. No further issues.
Legal in Kalifornia, except for the mag?
I’d like to see a little better finishing of the metal. Some of us just like our guns like that.
One could say that a “shithole” is a place more people are trying to get out than to get in.
It is possibly a coincidence that these less-than-desirable places deny their subjects the right to arms. And, possibly not.
“The reliability of an AK…” Not bloody likely if it’s made by Century.
Soooo……did Mr. Kennedy storm out of the room and denounce the speaker as stupid and ignorant on 2008, when that speaker identified black father absenteeism as a major contributing factor to crime?
“Children who grow up without a father are five times more likely to live in poverty and commit crime, nine times more likely to drop out of schools and 20 times more likely to end up in prison”, said presidential candidate Obama in Chicago in 2008.
What’s changed since then, Mr. Kennedy? You disagree only because this time it’s a conservative Republican making the observation, which is an occasion for you to score some cheap political points. Really, judging people by their political party affiliation? Whatever happened to the dream of judging people by the content of their character?
Well, the dream isn’t completely dead. After all, that is exactly the standard by which I judge Mr. Kennedy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnTU4dKpoB8
So let me get this straight, Zev won’t make a slide or barrel for a G20 or G21, but they will collaborate on a 1911?
The only legitimate charge here is trespassing. The government doesn’t own the game. I’ll be dammed if I pay the government yet another fee or tax for delivery of unwanted services. All these fudds can shove their bootlicking love of authoritarianism where the sun doesn’t shine. This girl is little more than a idiot and a trespasser. I find it hard to believe when any rural southerner tries to preach about poaching as if they didn’t do the same thing when they were young.
Deer are monitored and harvested as needed to maintain a healthy deer herd-the same with hunting seasons-they are designed around the deers life and reproductive cycle-also the quality of meat by hunting during cooler or cold seasons.
Poaching is illegal period,and ignorance of the law is no excuse,she took a deer out of season=poaching,she was shining when she shot it=poaching,she didnt have permission to hunt on private property=poaching,she didnt have a license=poaching,she shoot out of a vehicle=poaching,she shot from a roadway=poaching.
She should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of all of these laws,as they are all made for a reason,im sure many will not understand these reasons,but that again is no excuse,it falls under ignorance of the law is no excuse,if you are going to do something,make sure you know your laws,and a dollar to a donut hole she knew she was breaking everyone of those laws.From some comments here,how so many of you think you are above the law is just stupid,and you give actual true hunters a bad name.
I hope to see more on this where they throw the book at her for every law she broke,and she gets locked up for a long time,this is a prime example of someone killing something just for the fun of it,they have no use in our society.
Funny, the slide on that P-09/07 looks just like the slide on that new Sig. Hmm. (But the CZ is less.)
Australia does allow in refugees. Only USA and Canada take more. But they are all checked for criminal history etc or should be. Some do slip through. Illegals get sent home. One great advantage of being an island.
As Brit said above if we need engineers, doctors etc you can apply usually with conditions to work in remote area for several years.
Interesting design/concept. I hope it does well. For me, the only box it checks is the “firearms that will be reviewed by the 75-years-in-the-future ‘Forgotten Weapons’ gun jesus” box. And I’m 65 years old so I don’t really need to check that box any more. 🙂
Who needs pretty firearms?
Enough!!
Dead horse issue. Next topic……
I really hope to see this in a larger model with a 5 inch barrel. The grip could be longer and barrel youd be getting that extra inch on whats already a full size gun. For me personally, this was probably the coolest gun to come out in the past year.
The XR45 version of the Boberg would shoot 45 Super. So technically, a 10mm version should be possible! It being the year of the 10mm.
Thanks JWT for writing this review. I’ve been interested in the “Boberg 2.0” since Bond bought them out. However, the normal PR releases masking as reviews weren’t very informative. It’s nice to see somebody actually shoot 800 rounds through this thing and give it good marks!
The 2A wasn’t about hunting. It was all about who was going to be the master. The people or the government.
Questions. How many rounds and what caliber were fired? What kind of recoil will the scope hold up to?
Did you do a tall target test or box test to insure that the turrets track true, are repeatable, and reliable?
Every time the gun control establishment changes their “buzz words” or slogans, I rejoice a little. It means that they clearly are not winning, and they know it. An ad/propaganda campaign only changes their message when it isn’t working, and the gun control folks have changed theirs every two or three years.
“It means that they clearly are not winning, and they know it. ”
If you are constantly fending off your enemy, you are not winning, and they are not losing.
“we need to address the proliferation of guns in this country which is leading to more gun violence and deaths.” – citation please.
“Some state and local governments have attempted to craft sensible local laws to address some of the problem.” – if it doesn’t solve the problem and infringes on the people’s civil rights, is it still “sensible”?
“Like most Republicans, he apparently believes there is no problem that can’t be solved by a “gun totting cowboy.” – it may very well be a cowboy who solves the problem… and he may or may not use a gun to do it.
“So, let me ask you: do you really feel safer knowing that people in your church, or your child’s classroom is “packing heat.” – Yup. Especially if it’s me.
🤠
It couldn’t possibly be that his pro-gun opponents are arguing in good faith. It couldn’t possibly be that there are large numbers of people who take personal responsibility for their own protection and that of their families. It couldn’t possibly be that those same people argue strongly to protect their natural rights. No, no. His opponents must be a shadowy group of rich gunmakers funding some grubby lobbyists to peddle their wares. Oh, and the six guys in America who own all three hundred million guns.
Feral cat lovers are some of the easiest people to beat in an argument. “They should just be left alone.” You know what else should be left alone? The native animals. “But humans are more destructive than cats!” Are you equating humans with cats??? Are you really to tell millions of people to get out of their houses, and turn the homes back to forest all so some feral cats can live on?
You know what Clint always says, when SHTF there’ll be .223 laying all over the place and all the spare parts your AR-15 will ever need!
We had a pretty common saying working in the ER:
Drunk drivers kill kids. High drivers miss their exit.
“It’s easier, but it’s not easy in the sense that any Joe can get a license to carry . . . The city is not safer with more guns but we respect constitutional rights, and our law conforms.”
No you don’t, and no it doesn’t…………….I CAN win the lottery but I won’t. Try carrying a firearm in that shit hole, The police will hem you up faster than you can say police brutality.
As I have small hands it is hard to hit the slide release on some of my guns. I’m a slingshot guy all the way.
Slide stop lever if it exists and is readily accessible. Otherwise, rack slide. Slingshot if slide is easy to rack. Otherwise, support hand over slide and push hands together.
Real Mausers aren’t made out of plastic.
Carhartt ain’t about to do tactical gear. At best they are gun apathetic. Propper makes some good tactical clothes at decent prices…
https://www.propper.com
John Farnam is so cute…to wit…
He doesn’t know when the M-16 was first fielded in Vietnam…”middle of a war”…no, just no.
He considers all users without a fancy rubber d-ring under the extractor “not serious operators”. The crane o-ring does just fine for this AFSOC veteran.
He doesn’t know that the “battle rifle” went out of style right at the end of WWII. Sorry Johnny but the small caliber assault rifle isn’t going anywhere.
He doesn’t understand that the M16 was screwed up by the army after Armalite sold the rights to Colt and that it wasn’t a “rushed” job.
I’m sure there is more but these failures alone lead me to think nothing of Farnams opinions.
Scary. Stupid and scary.
This is one of the reasons I’m very, very cautious about shooting long range here in Colorado. In recent years there has been a huge increase in illegal riding of quads and dirtbikes where people cross areas they’re not supposed to be in and could ride right into a bullet.
Actually had to cancel some long range practice this past fall due to exactly this. As we were setting up dirt bikes came out of the woods down range and rode right across an area that’s been used as a target shooting area for decades. Posted and everything. They just ignored the signs. When we talked to them about it they told us to fuck off and shove the signs up our asses before they rode off.
The federal government may have to add a property tax cap to protect snowbirds on fixed incomes since the snowbirds can not vote against property tax increases in the state in which their secondary home is located.
Old episodes of “Panic 911”. If you’ve got basic Comcast, it’s available On Demand.
It’s not great TV, in terms of production style and quality, and it’s only 1.5 seasons. But the creators were really into defensive gun use. Don’t miss the very last episode. An old guy defends himself and wife against a drug crazed nut using a Walther P22… successfully.
Drowning?
Always remember that this would be the US had Hillary and the democrats won the 2016 elections. Once the US is disarmed and governed like Mexico, we can expect at least 75,000 murders per year.
So long as liberal schools, with liberal administrators, and liberal teachers, indoctrinating students to be liberal political operatives, collude with liberal law enforcement, and liberal local government, to enact liberal non-enforcement policies intended to allow troubled students to go unnoticed, and do little to nothing to physically protect the students before or during the inevitable outcome, the next shooting can be far worse.
There’s no ‘conspiracy’ here, just a series of liberal actions with a single conclusion
OK PEOPLE – THIS AHOLE AND PEOPLE LIKE HER DEMAND THAT YOU ONLY PROTECT YOURSELF UP TO THE POINT YOU CAN STAND WHAT THEY (OR OTHER POS (D) MFn AHOLES LIKE HER, THINK ABOUT THAT.
SH_T LIKE THIS WON’T STOP UNTIL THEY ARE FORCED TO SPEND MOST OF THEIR (REMAINING) WAKING HOURS
FING
HIDING.
Mr. Taylor,
I wish cowboy boots could be made a part of my wardrobe at work. But they can’t. I’ve become more of an appendix carry guy. My point is, I’m interested in this firearm’s length for appendix carry, but do you know of any holster manufacturers for it? My go-to is a no-go. Thank you, sir.
Holsters made for the Boberg XR9-S should work for the Bond Arms Bullpup.
For appendix carry and leather, check out Side Guard Holsters IWB Tuck Clip (zero cant) or Minimal Clip:
http://www.sideguardholsters.com/holsters/IWB_Holsters.htm
For Kydex, check out Clinger Holsters Stingray:
https://clingerholsters.com/boberg-xr9-s-holsters/
Huh. Thanks. Those clinger holsters remind me of Comp-Tac. They look pretty solid.
Clinger makes quality holsters, and they’re priced pretty good to boot!