http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fW8TtAyF6YA

The boss’s mouse gun malevolence notwithstanding, I’m still a fan of petite pistols and reserved revolvers. In fact, I was so impressed with Kel-Tec’s .380 P3AT that I just plunked down $239 of my own cabbage for one. Boy, has it been a dandy, reliably (and accurately) chomping its way through an inaugural 250 rounds of FMJs, JHPs, and assorted plastic-bagged reloads. All is good in my mouse gun paradise save one slightly-disturbing detail: those .380 bullets sure look small. For folks more bothered by this than me, the Kel-Tec Calvary has responded. Enter the 9mm Kel-Tec PF-9.

Introduced in 2006, the PF-9 is a semi-automatic, double-action-only, locked-breech pistol chambered in that archetype of ubiquity, the 9mm Luger (or 9mm Parabellum, or 9 X 19, etc.). Quickly and dirtily: it’s a larger and more feature-laden version of the P3AT chambered in a more powerful caliber. (“More feature-laden” here means that it has a slide stop, an accessory rail, and usable sights.) You may be familiar with Kel-Tec’s other small nine, the P11. Imagine a lighter, more up-to-date P-11 with a thinner grip due to a single-stack magazine and bingo! You’ve got the 12.7-ounce, 0.88-inch-thick Kel-Tec PF-by-God-9.

Aesthetically, you will not be awed by the PF-9. A thing of beauty may well and truly be a joy forever, but you’ll never find such a thing in Kel-Tec’s catalog. Although the PF-9 looks less like a toy than the P3AT (its blockish silhouette is thankfully less Goldilocks and more GoldiGlocks), it’s simply not pretty. Maybe “efficient-looking” is an apt description. Regardless, the dinosaur-spot texture on the grip surface doesn’t help.

Nor do these dinosaur spots help make the PF-9 comfortable to handle. The harsh checkering molded into the other Kel-Tec pistols’ DuPont ST-8018 feels more immediately natural than do these 20 big plastic squares. The rest of the gun feels ergonomically compromised, too. This depends largely on one’s perspective. In my pocket, it seemed a little too heavy for the capability it offered. But the thinner grip made possible by the single-stack, seven-round mag was a welcome print-reducer compared to most other small nines (nearly all of which are over an inch thick).

There’s one thing about the PF-9 that’s not up for debate: anybody who fires it will agree that it has a ridiculously long double-action trigger pull. (The re-set stinks, too; watch the video above and you’ll see why this kept my attempted second shot from happening.) Contrary to popular belief, the trigger doesn’t have a tremendous amount of take-up, it doesn’t stack all that much, and the break is fairly clean. However, when a trigger has to go forward and backward through multiple ZIP codes, you simply can’t compare it to the best guns in its class. Or even the decent ones.

To be such a small, light gun, the PF-9 sends rounds down range well—enough once you’ve learned to tolerate the trying trigger. Recoil and muzzle flip, while significant, are better managed than the P3AT (probably because more of your hand can grip the larger/heavier PF-9). Also, it’s amazing what having real sights can do for you in the target acquisition department. On the reliability front, the PF-9 never hiccuped, even after being limp-wristed, rapid-fired, and fed bargain-bin reloads. This example could be an anomaly, though. Re-learn the definition of “growing pains” by visiting the PF-9 section of the Kel-Tec Owners Group bulletin board.

If your troubled-triggered temptress isn’t enticing enough right out of the box, do feel free to accessorize. Crimson Trace offers a slightly larger version of its novel P3AT/P32 trigger guard-mounted laser for the PF-9, and the grip-frame-integral accessory rail will accommodate several tactical lights. Some owners have even had their slides/barrels ported. Holster options are myriad.

Coming away from my experience with the PF-9, two things stood out in my mind, First, as an individual gun—forget size for a minute—the PF-9 leaves a lot to be desired, mostly because of its trigger. Second, as a concept—-a small pocket pistol marginally upsized from .380 ACP to 9mm—it’s even worse. Numerous other tiny nines offer an overall better package, even if they are compromised in their own way.

Economically, the PF-9 does have a decided advantage over its competition, regularly selling for less than three bills brand new. But we learn in economics that everything happens at the margin. Compared to the P3AT from which it came—by being marginally bigger, heavier, more complex, and more expensive—the PF-9 just drifts too far out from the shore of real value to be saved by its brawny 9mm lifeguard.

Bottom line: Whether you like mouse guns or not, the P3AT is absolutely the real deal. Unfortunately, amongst a crowded field of pocket nines, the PF-9 is merely a pretender.

SPECIFICATIONS

Model: Kel-Tec PF-9
Action type: Double Action Only
Caliber: 9mm Luger
Capacity: 7-round magazine
Barrel length: 3.1″
Overall length: 5.85″
Weight: 12.7 oz. unloaded; 18.2 oz. loaded
Grips: Polymer; integral with frame
Sights: Adjustable rear (for windage and elevation) and fixed front blade
Slide Finish: Blued, Parkerized, or Hard Chrome
Frame Finish: Polymer; various colors available
Current Value:  $249+ at Brownells, depending on options

RATINGS

(Out of five stars)

Style  * *

More gun-looking than the P3AT but still no beauty pageant winner.

Ergonomics (carry)  * * * * *

World’s flattest 9mm. Lightest, too.

Ergonomics (firing)  * *

An unbelievably long trigger pull (and similarly-long reset) spoil all the fun. Couple this with the uncomfortable grip texture and a good time at the range is had by no one.

Reliability  * *

Read the Kel-Tec Owner’s Group online bulletin board – for several years – before purchasing.

Customize This  * * * *

Lots of stuff here; lasers, lights, porting, mag extensions, etc.

OVERALL RATING  * *

There are simply too many good (and even decent) small nines on the market to recommend this one.

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42 COMMENTS

  1. The grip looks less like dino spots and more like one of those peanut-shaped peanut butter cookies.

    Oh and nice review, thank you.

  2. What kinds of groups did it give you? I checked these out at a gun show last weekend, and by the time I got home I was scheming how to trade my .380 toward one of these. Now I’m not so eager.

    Did you experience any malfunctions with your test gun? Even if you didn’t, your reference to the owners group has me thinking very carefully about this now. I would love a super-svelte 9mm, especially for under $300, but rotten triggers (Rhino, anybody?) are deal-killers. And jam-a-matics are just plain killers.

    • Accuracy-wise, I wasn't impressed, especially compared to the .380 P3AT. The first time out with my P3AT (once I got used to it), I was able to get five out of six shots within less than 1.5" at 21 feet. With this PF-9, I wasn't capable of anything close to that – more along the lines 3" to 3.5" groups at 21 feet.

      Reliability-wise, I want to be fair to Kel-Tec: These are extremely small, light-weight handguns that really push the edge of the feasibility envelope from a materials and engineering point of view. And Kel-Tec is a relatively small company. And, let's be honest, these pistols don't cost an arm and a leg.

      The PF-9 I fired for this review never had a problem – it functioned flawlessly all afternoon. And any negative stuff you'll read about the PF-9 on the KTOG message boards…well, you'll read the same stuff on the P3AT boards, as well. (And I've heard that Ruger LCP owners are experiencing a lot of the same stuff, too.)

      In my opinion, you have to spend some time with a given firearm before trusting it, and the owner of this PF-9 has done just that, and, as a result, he trusts it completely. My issue is that I'm not sure I would trust myself (or many other people) to be able to effectively fire it in a stressful situation due to its seriously-sub-par trigger.

      Another alternative to consider: I've yet to fire one, but for the last five or six years, I've heard owner after owner extol the virtues of the Kel-Tec P11, which is basically the double-stack-mag forerunner to the PF-9 (but without the accessory rail or the weird grip texture). I doubt the trigger is much different, but I would definitely check that one out before buying a PF-9.

      • Sold!

        I found a blued PF-9 online last week for $259 and bought it instantly; as a bonus they sent me the more costly Parkerized model for the same price. When the weather clears and I can head to the hills for some testing, I'll send El Jefe a second opinion review.

        Without even shooting it yet, I know we already agree about the dinosaur grip checkering and the sharp grooves on the front and backstrap. My grip is already covered by a custom-fitted section of bicycle inner tube, possibly "The World's Thinnest and Lightest Hogue Grip Wrap".

      • I have owned both and the p11 trigger is much heavier while being
        about the same length of pull. Northwood components makes a great
        aluminum trigger that decreases perceived pressure as well as over
        and under travel. Lastly it eliminates the trigger pinch some folks
        get when firing either weapons.

  3. Personal experience with this gun has been far more accurate that expressed here. It could be the grip that was show in the video. There is a lot of upward recoil shown and this is directly related to the grip used. When firing these pocket pistols I have found it is best to place the left pointer finger on the trigger guard. This helps reduce flip and maintains a better grip. Once you know the gun is going to stay in your hands there is less fear of the recoil. The trigger's "long" pull is the "safety" and with proper techniques will not affect how accurately you shoot the gun, however if you are anticipating recoil and jerk when you expect the trigger to break you will have terrible groupings. The jerk I speak of can be seen around 12 seconds where the shooter held the trigger back and it didn't reset. you can see a jerk when he expects the gun to fire.

    The P11 trigger is far worse than pf9. I own both. The pf9 has a hammer block (similar to the p32 and p3at) that "pre stages" the trigger making it shorter. if you think the pf9 pull is long the p11 is beyond unbearably long.

    finally all guns have issues, ruger hasn't released a gun recently without a recall. keltec mass produces these guns at an extremely low price point made possible by in part by the limited hands on approach to fit and finish.

  4. Like I said in an earlier post I purchased a used Kel-Tec PF-9 this past weekend and I finally got to try out this weapon today , I am most impressed , very accurate , no feeding or extraction problems , very good weapon to use for self-defence as it is so light weight , I fired some Walmart ammo at a small 3×3 inch target 20 paces away and I was able to put all the bullets into the target ! The Kel-Tec PF-9 is a far cry from the older pistols of a by-gone era , large heavy automatics like the Colt model 1903 that fired under powered rounds such as the .32ACP or the .380ACP !

  5. I have a Kel-Tec PF-9 and I love it! Easy to conceal, light to carry!
    Oh by the way it is always on target!
    ( If you dont shoot well don’t blame the weapon!)

  6. I have a kel tec p3at and p32. The trigger pinches the bottom of my finger and long pull. Regardless,i pick up the 3at and how about the 32 for back up? I sure hope you can do something for me,PLEASE,i like the kel tec line. BE WAITING TO HEAR FROM YOU SOON. HUGH ROOK

  7. I briefly owned a P-11, and I’m fairly convinced that the only bigger P.O.S. I’d ever gotten hold of was a double action Colt .380 that I kept for about 3 days. The P-11 and the P-9 are, thankfully, worlds apart!

    I love the P-9. I also had the .380 Kel Tec, and I was never very impressed with its reliability nor accuracy. (mostly accuracy). Wotj tje P-9 straight out of the box, with absolutely no tinkering, using Winchester Whitebox, Tul, Georgia Arms reloads, and Blazers, I have *never* had a malfunction, misfire, or problem with the PF9 in about 1000 rounds of practice. I carry inside the front pocket, strong side, using a Desantis Nemises holster, and I keep a spare mag in any other available pocket. For less than $300, this is my little hidden ace filled with Winchester Ranger XT a-hole repellant. I LOVE this weapon.

  8. Since what matters is hitting a man’s chest at 5 yds and less, at hyperspeed, groups mean nothing. Hit him with half as much power, (ie, with a 380) and you are more than twice as likely to get hurt. See, an 80 percent manstopper fails in 20 out of 100 shootings. A 60% manstopper, (the best a 380 can hope to be, without reloads) fails 40 times in 100 shootings. 40 being twice as bad as 20 failings, the 9mm is twice as good. A 14 oz 9mm is the same feathery weight as the alloy framed .38 snubs that guys have raved about for 30+ years. In such short barrels, only the Corbon 100 gr and 90 gr jhp’s are going to reliably expand in flesh.

  9. I bought this gun (the black over od green model) brand new. I fired 40 rounds threw it and the slide locked to the rear. It warped the rails and the slide will not lock to rear without extreme brutane. I have mailed it back to Kel Tec (their CS was pretty good) through a local gun shop. Within 4 weeks i should have a good gun back.

  10. If you’re going to show a video on how well a gun fires maybe you should also show your grouping on the target.

  11. As a owner of both p 11 and now pf9, yes the single stack nine jumps and moves when u let it talk. I love the size and the belt clip add on which make concealed carry a no brainer. Speaking of grip, a slip on rubber grip is needed. As for the trigger issue I remember the P-11 needed a trigger stop to be installed to handle the over travel issue it had ( KEL-TEc forum is great). The PF9 is no Kimber solo but for $170 used it is a nice pocket mouse. Do not forget mag base plates finger rests also.

  12. Could not disagree more with this review. My PF9 is a good shooter, accurate and not uncomfortable to shoot. Never had any problems with it.

  13. Kel-Tec PF9 is a great gun. If you want more, carry a Glock 22, but you will notice the difference (as in twice the weight and tons more spacial volumn).

  14. I’ve owned a PF9 for over three years and have been very pleased with it. It isn’t a Sig P 290 or a a Kmber Solo, both of which have their own short comings at significantly higher price points. However, it functions flawlessly for what it was intended – self defense. Please see the latest GunTests article for a more thorough review than offered here.

  15. Believe it or not I just discovered the TTAG website two week ago. I’ve been well pleased with what I’ve been reading. I decided to check the gun reviews of my personal guns and found this one on the KelTec PF9. I’ve owned a PF9 for two years. It’s got somewhere in the neighborhood of 1000- rounds thru it, all brands, FMJ and JHP, including steel case. I’ve never had a failure to feed, eject or fire. I own 6 pistols (Glock 23 & 19, H&K 9 USP, Ruger LCP, Beretta 25 cal. and the KelTec PF9). Of all my pistols, only the Ruger has ever posed any problems with multiple failure to ejects till I finally got it broke in – about 200 rounds. I’ve found that those who don’t own KelTec firearms are the most critical. Those who actually own and practice with them have similar experiences to my own.

  16. I have owned this gun for three years now I believe or close to it. I do think that the grips could use some improvement, but it has yet to be that big of a deal that it bothers me. As far as accurate, it took some time to get used to the trigger pull, snap caps and trigger practice helped a lot. I have not had a problem with the recoil myself, but I am a mechanic by trade which makes my hand grip pretty strong, I guess. It has been a pretty much flawless gun when it comes to jams. I have shot close to 1000 rounds through it and only a few problems early on when getting used to the gun. I have been pleased with my PF9 and would recommend it to others that are looking for a 9 for CC. And now days my wife has stolen it from me and I’m back to CCing a LCP.

  17. I have a Flat Dark Earth cerakote version that looks pretty nice, IMHO. I think I bought the last PF9 available within a hundred miles of the major metropolitan area I live in (this was last year, before I took the plunge and started ordering guns online). Any Kel-Tec product will be nearly impossible to find in a gun shop, unfortunately — if I ever ran across a Sub-2000 behind the counter, it would be in my BOB right now. But I digress.

    I am pretty pleased with mine. It is an absolute joy to carry concealed, it points naturally for me, and it will hit targets at the range if I take my time and concentrate on a smooth trigger pull. I just consider the uber-long trigger to be a safety feature of sorts. I don’t think I’ve shot it enough times to have done a proper break-in, but it’s been shot and cleaned 3-4 times. I’ve had no operational failures of the jamming variety, but I have had an issue with light strikes when shooting white-&-green-box Rem ammo. I don’t know if there’s a firing pin issue or if it doesn’t like that particular ammo. Self-defense ammo has been flawless so far. Overall I recommend the PF9. The price-size-weight combo overcomes the trigger pull in my opinion, as that can be mitigated with training anyway.

  18. Here is just one point I want to make and maybe it is just me. But having a CCW on me (I am not a 100% everywhere guy but do carry it when I think I will have a need) that maybe I do not get to fire very often (face it, some of us leave it in the holster for a LONG time or in the center console for even longer times) means that it has to take some “lack of use abuse”. However I do count on it to fire 100% of the time when needed. Although I like the price of the Kel-Tec and have looked at them several times (not a buyer yet); I still can’t see why everyone raves about the cost and still willing to live with faults or any chance of being unreliable? Basically when I buy my weapons for defense (playing and otherwise is different) I figure my life or the life of my family is worth the extra cash if it is buying you as close to perfect as it can (nothing is perfect I guess). Last thing I would want to see anyone go through who has to defend themselves is pulling a weapon and having it not work and the “bad” guy then either shoots YOU or beats the hell out of You (I do not subscribe to the theory that just having a weapon is a deterrent and you shouldn’t use it for real). Simply what I need to ask is why would you buy any weapon that you plan to have to use to save your life and settle for less than perfect just because of $$$?

    Kel-tec MAY make a great weapon (I can’t say otherwise) so the point I am making is that for those of you that look at the price and are willing to take a chance or have to tinker to make it work exactly as it should is it really what you want to do? I would love to spend sub-$300 on a carry weapon (WOULD LOVE THAT) if you had any doubts on it’s reliability and still carry it? I know budgets are one thing and holy crap stuff is expensive but for me when I reach in and grab any of my weapons whether it is a pistol or my revolver I have 100% confidence that whatever the barrel is pointing at is going to get hit and I never had to do my own bathroom gunsmith work…but I pay a pretty penny. All I am saying is you can carry XYZ or ABC gun but I wouldn’t put price ahead reliability when it comes to killing another human being.

    IF Kel-Tec makes a substandard weapon (based on what I read I would say that they give you what you pay for) then help them make a better one! They make them the way they do with the process they do because they are filling a demand. If the demand went down or away for that type or class of weapon, believe me they would retool and refit and improve to remain competitive or they go away. However, as long as the demand is there why change? If you carry one and shoot it and you have zero problems and feel confident in it working when needed then by all means, that is your choice. But if you have any doubts that it will function each and every time then skip a couple Starbucks a week or whatever is your vice and bump up your budget spend more if you need too. It is your life but I can guarantee that a bad guy can cover the 25 – 30 foot distance quicker than your mind can figure out why your $300 pistol did not go bang and in time for you to clear the fault before he is on you.

    • Very well stated Comment. I will probably never need to use my Keltec In a defence type situation,But I do Want it to work IF needed. Think I will be looking for another 9mm. Your right. When it comes down to Staying alive, Money should not enter into the equation.

    • This is a frequent argument made, and it’s not without merit, but it rarely seems to hold up when turned back towards the person doing the asking. If your life and the lives of your family members are so important (which I do not dispute), why do you not carry at all times? Are you 100% sure that you face 0% risk when you are not carrying? Even if the chances are slight, they are existent, nonetheless. The cost of carrying all the time (or at least more often) is nearly $0. So why not do it?

      Do you also have bulletproof windows and bodypaneling on your car? Why not…? Sure it’s expensive as all hell, and the added weight drags down your MPG, but money is not a concern when worrying about your family, right? Likewise, I’m assuming that you have armed security protecting you at your home, no? Maybe a safe room, and underground bunker too…? Assuredly you do – money is no object when it comes to safety.

      Of course, I am being a facetious a**hole. You likely don’t have all of that stuff because money IS a concern. I know it is for me, and suspect that it is for about 99% of the population. There’s also this nasty little thing called the law of diminishing returns. In essence, there comes a point at which the additional security is not worth the costs. If we assume the PF-9 is 95% reliable, spending $300 can take you from 0% to 95%. That’s a lot of security for just $300!!! But in order to get up to 99% reliable, how much money would it take? Another $300…? Maybe an extra $1000…? That’s a lot of money for 4% of additional security. What would it take to get up to 100% security…? Millions…? Like I said, there comes a point (and that point is different for everyone) at which the added security is simply not worth the added cost. We choose to roll the dice, so to speak.

      Or then again, maybe we’re just uninformed consumers…!

    • I would rather carry a Kel-Tec than a Taurus for quality.They are not Jennings junk. Granted they are not a lot of bigger better pistols. However if concealment is important and you want something that hits what you aim it at it works. I own a PF-9 for Winter and and a Kel-Tec 380 for summer. Guns are like tools certain ones for certain jobs.

  19. Well I bought a P-11 in January,I had to send it back to Keltec,It would not even feed factory FMJ,I had to drive out the first round in the chamber with a punch!Also the recoil spring rod would not allow me to reassemble the pistol,it kept the barrel from going fully forward to slip the assembly pin back in,also the magazine latch would not let the magazine slip in unless you depressed the catch first.The feed ramp also veered to the right where the first and only round to go in had to be reloaded into the magazine and slowly inserted into the chamber.If I had known about tese problems before hand I probably would have bought a new style 9mm revolver,I have another 9mm auto,that is pretty much a clone of the military sidearm,never a problem,after 30,000 rounds.Was planning on buying two other Keltec weapons but have decided against it,if this is any indication of their products.last thing I sent the P-11 back they recieved it in Febuary,and it is still there,they are in a 9 week backlog before they even get a chance to look at it,2 words for Keltec “quality control”!

    • Also I am different Andy than above listed in blue coloring,and I usually end my statements “Keep your powder dry”!Ya’ll have a good one,we do not need more gun control.

  20. Got my P-11 back yesterday,man they did a great job on it changed out the slide,barrel,rear sight,some internal parts,and fixed the mag release.Tried it out it shot everything I put in it,even my reloads.Their warranty work is really good,oh they even polished the feed ramp too.Kudo’s to Keltec’s gun smiths,great job.Keep your powder dry.

  21. I am going to direct this to everyone trying to defend or say this is a great gun. First of all if you are one of the people posting that he is wrong or this is a great gun, well your wrong and wrong. Because it is not. Most people I would reckon that praise this have never shot anything of actual quality in the subcompact or compact 9mm market. IF you had you would see that he pretty much got this review spot on. Is this a POS? No. Is it a good gun. Another no. It is if its all you can afford. But common sense would tell you to wait out a couple of months, set a couple more hundred dollars aside, and go get a great quality sub 9mm. This thing is just flat out awkward. The way it feels in the hand, yes those god awful grips are terrible, and they way it shoots all over the place and has no real consistancy with groupings. Sure you will get a few near the bulleyes, but as far as putting it where you aim, it doesnt. You have to remember, he tests all sorts of guns, and when you do that you get a taste of what real quality is, and what isnt. And this isnt. Its cheap. To put it in perspective the S&W SD40VE. Not a cheap gun, its a great priced gun that is a good shooter. Its value. The PF-9, cheap. There is a difference. So it that respect he got it right. Its on the very low end of what is available on the CC market.

    • I beg to differ, I have fired just about every sub-compact on the market and most every gun made in the last 20 years and many before that time. My Father owns a Gun Store with an indoor range. Before you go accusing me of being some kid, I am 43 years old.

      The PF-9 is just fine. The things you point out that should be glaringly obvious to all, as faults of this gun, are subjective. The grip’s pattern don’t bother me a bit. The long pull isn’t a problem either after firing it enough to get it through a decent break in period, I know what to expect and am quite accustomed to it.

      You said “This thing is just flat out awkward. The way it feels in the hand, yes those god awful grips are terrible, and they way it shoots all over the place and has no real consistancy with groupings. Sure you will get a few near the bulleyes, but as far as putting it where you aim, it doesnt.”

      This thing is flat out awkward….maybe to you. To me it is fine.
      The way it feels in the hand, as above, subjective, feels fine to me.
      Those God awful grips are terrible… Don’t bother me a bit. Again.. Subjective.
      The way it shoots all over the place…. First round out of this gun was a dead on bullseye for me and the following 5 shots were all less than 3″. Two were in the same hole. It has had over 4500 rounds through it and not one problem ever. I specifically recall that day as it was my first time taking my sons shooting, they were amazed I had a dead center hit first shot. Dad was a super hero gunslinger for awhile that day.

      A decent marksman learns to shoot each individual weapon he has. If you can’t learn to use a weapon, that doesn’t mean someone else can’t. Also, if someone likes the way this gun shoots and can shoot it accurately, who are you to tell them they are dead wrong?? Instead of a review, you come across as someone with a personal vendetta against a gun manufacturer. What did Kel-tec do to you? It also seems you are being very protective of the Author, as if no one should EVER voice a contrary opinion that is in opposition to the Authors opinion. You nor the Author are the be all end all Authoritarians on this weapon or any other. You have your opinion and you certainly voiced it well. To shoot down others opinions in such a belittling way as to say if they enjoy shooting and like this gun, they must have never fired a “Good” gun, comes across as rather, well, for lack of a better term…… well, I will keep profanity to myself. This is not a place for name calling. Carry on with your gun snobbery. Oh and by the way, I just finished running 1000 rds through the new Glock 43, 6 weeks prior to release. Nice gun, twice as much as the PF-9 at roughly $579 I would carry either and trust my life with both. You may like the new Glock, maybe it costs enough to allow you to carry it.

  22. Oh and not to mention the trigger on this thing is horrific. And when a gun has a bad trigger that is about 80% of the importance on how the gun shoots, aims and how accurate it is. This gun is a D gun. NOt failing, but barely above passing

  23. Caligula you forgot to its not a Ruger LCP, or a Ruger LC9 or a Springfield XDs or a Sig p290 either. Or an M&P Shield for that matter, which i am personally not a fan of. Look its simply not a good gun. Maybe if youve shot nothing else it may be a good gun. But when you shoot and have experiance all the other subcompact semi autos out there and start comparing then you see its not even close to its peers on almost every single level, in fact it usually is one of the first ones that gets taken out of the conversation. Yes not close at all. Shit trigger, shit feel in hands, to light, yes i said TOO LIGHT, a gun can absolutely be too light, being too light affects the performance. I get that the people who have this gun are going to be upset, which makes no sense to me cause i had one at one time and got rid of it before I read a single review on it, I shot it and knew it was not that good of a quality of a gun. And i love when people try to use this reason on that a gun is good “when i shoot it goes bang”. Well no shit! 99.9% of guns do, doesnt mean they are good. Just because a gun doesnt jam on every other shot doesnt mean it quailifies as a grea or even good gun.

    • Mr. Hope, the lightness is what attracted me to this gun in the first place. After lugging a full size Sig on my ankle every day for 3 years, I decided a pocket pistol was the only way I was going to maintain EDC. My wife has a S&W 38special revolver, but it’s just too small for me to get a good grip on. I don’t think a 380 is enough, so…

      The PF9 was the smallest, lightest, least expensive 9mm made. I read the forums and sent it back to Keltec for a fluff & buff, which was both extensive and quick. I then added the Hogue grip and Northwoods trigger kit (HIGHLY recommended). It’s now completely reliable (over 1300 rounds without an issue) and quite accurate to boot.

      Before thinking I’ve spent enough to get a better quality gun, know that my total investment is still just $360…and it’s still the smallest, lightest 9mm made!

  24. I own a kel tec 9mm after cleaning it I put it back together and the bolt assembly is lock in the back position how can it get it back to operating correctly?

  25. Thiss design is steller! You most certainly know how to keep a reader amused.
    Between yoyr wit and your videos, I wwas almost moved to start my own blo (well, almost…HaHa!) Great job.

    I really enjoyed what you had to say, and more than
    that, how yoou presented it. Too cool!

  26. Respect your opinion and agree on the fact that it’s not a comfortable gun to fire, but it’s not a range gun it’s meant to defend your life. I have found mine to be superbly reliable and after a fair amount of time with it learning to stage the trigger properly very accurate. I own a a Sig P238, P226, G19, and a smattering of John Moses masterpieces and have moved on from numerous other Glocks, Smiths, and Rugers but when the weather gets warm here in South Carolina and my clothes get thinner I always find it’s the PF9 that goes with me. Don’t get me wrong, I love my Sigs and have spent a lot of time with the 238 and 938 but the size and weight of the PF9 and the fact that I spent the time to learn to utilize it effectively makes it a great carry option that I never worry about scratching up. To sum up, if you take the time to learn the little beast it’s a fine gun that you’ll not leave in the truck or on the nightstand because it’s too damned heavy or bulky and still packs a much better punch than a 380 for about the same weight and size.

  27. I have 2….. it is a quality ,simple cary pistol …completly reliable ! As a man made product can be. Long triger pull for its safety ! Sissies should stay from this pistol ! ….. some of the expensive cary pistols have more problems ! Some of you guys just like to complain ….. very little expertise included. It is not a target pistol….. get an XDM, GLOCK, IF THAT IS WHAT YOU WANT then some of you guys can complain about them …… they do what they are supposed to do also !The company is great to deal with. I am proud of owning this pistol. If you do have any problems with pistol….. they will custom tune it & send it back to you..

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  29. I love my PF9 and use only the belt clip. To each his own but its like a really good woman: 100% reliable and always there when you need her.

  30. I owned a Browning 380 that would not hit the floor if you dropped it. Beautiful, big, inaccurate.
    I owned a Colt Mustang +2. I`m surprised it never broke with that junk recoil spring and it was to expensive to carry. I never wanted to get any wear showing on it. The PF 9 Is a better pistol than either of those better names. Its not pretty but as they say in the hot rod world “Chrome don`t get ya home”.

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