In the crowded field of .380 ACP handguns, why would you pick the Springfield Armory 911 sub-compact over the GLOCK 42, a Smith & Wesson Bodyguard, a CW380 from Kahr, one of Ruger’s LC versions? Why a 911 over a S&W Shield EZ, a Colt Mustang, a SIG SAUER P238, a Bersa Thunder, or traveling back in concept, a Walther PPK/S?
I’m not here to sell you a 911, but I am here to tell you this little pistol is worth considering if you’re in the market for an easy-to-carry (thus, likely to carry) 9mm Kurz. Only you can decide if it’s worth five mug shots of everyone’s favorite president, Ben Franklin. (Yes, I know).
The Big Open
The case provided with the Springfield 911 is a cardboard box with a carry handle, and the box is robust, suitable for range carry or storage. Inside the box is a carry pouch with a pocket holster. Also included were a lock and two magazines. The included holster works as well as most I’ve tried for jacket-pocket or trouser carry. It’s certainly enough to get started with.
In building the 911, Springfield Armory has eliminated many of the problems associated with smaller handguns carried for self defense. What the concealed-carrier wants is light weight, small form factors (height, length, and width), and enough capacity to stop a threat from continuing to be a threat. The choice of how much of each dimension the user wants and capacity are personal matters.
Where Does the Springfield 911 380 ACP Fit?
But the stats put the 911 Springfield in pretty small company. It is only 3.9 inches tall, 5.5 inches long, a skinny 1.1 inches wide across the ambidextrous thumb-safety levers, and it has a dry weight of 12.5 ounces. Loaded, it goes 15 ounces in weight. The slide itself is a mere 0.81 inches wide. The barrel is a 2.7-inch-long 416R-stainless-steel tube. My sample came with one 6-round flush-fitting magazine and one 7-round extended magazine. Both were stainless-steel boxes.
In comparison, Remington’s RM380 carry gun measures 5.27 in OAL; the Bersa Thunder goes 6 inches. The SIG SAUER P238 stands 3.9 inches tall. The M&P Shield EZ measures just under 5 inches tall. So that gives you a bracket size for the Springfield 911.
Some other important measurements for handfit include a frontstrap height of 1.75 inch and a backstrap height of 2.25 inch. The grip length will be enough for some folks to get three fingers on the handle. Others will get two and a half, and still others only two. You gotta shoot it yourself to find out.
Generally, the more fingers on the grip, the more you’ll like it and shoot it. Both grip faces have the company’s Octo-Grip texturing, which helped me hang onto the gun with 2.5 fingers.
The mainspring housing backstrap tang is elongated and could be referred to as a mini-beavertail. It’s designed to keep the slide from biting into the web of the hand. The PPK/S is notorious for this problem.
All in, the 911 is an everyday-carry pistol that will disappear into cargo pants pockets and hide easily in smaller ones.
At The Range
I tested the small gun for accuracy at 15 yards with Federal American Eagle 95-grain full-metal-jacket rounds, Fiocchi 90-grain jacketed hollowpoints, and Federal Premium 99-grain HSTs. Recoil was stiff with the Federal HST load, which comes as no surprise because it develops nearly 1000 fps. Most important, reliability was faultless with all three.
Accuracy Results:
380 ACP Fiocchi 90-gr. JHP 380APHP
- Average Velocity: 923 fps
- Muzzle Energy: 170 ft.-lbs.
- Smallest Group: 2.0 in.
- Average Group: 3.0 in.
380 ACP Federal Premium HST 99-gr. JHP P380HST1S
- Average Velocity: 970 fps
- Muzzle Energy: 206 ft.-lbs.
- Smallest Group: 2.7 in.
- Average Group: 3.4 in.
I had no issues with the Springfield 911. Though smaller in stature, its fit and finish were as good as most 1911s I’ve shot from Ruger, Remington, Kimber, or Colt. The controls were positive and worked as designed. The trigger broke at 4.9 pounds with little take-up and no creep. Trigger reset inside the smallish trigger guard was easy to feel, and crisp. A cut at the top of the stainless-steel slide functions as a loaded-chamber indicator.
The 911’s magazine release, location of the safety, slide stop, and appearance are 1911-like, but operationally, the Springfield 911 isn’t a downsized 1911 .380 like the Baby Rock 1911.
For one, the 911 lacks a grip safety. Also, the aluminum frame-mounted safety lever (up for safe; down for fire, the latter of which exposes a red dot on the frame) does not stop the slide from moving. The ability to load the pistol while it is on safe is a plus.
The 911’s lock-up is also unlike a 1911’s; the .380 does away with both the barrel bushing and the swinging link of the full-size 1911. The pistol uses a cut-out in the lower barrel to unlock and lock.
The Springfield 911 features excellent night sights with an Ameriglo Pro-Glo front sight with a brilliant-green tritium insert surrounded by a yellow circle. The luminescent yellow ring allows for very fast pointing and accurate shooting at 3 to 7 yards, the range in which this handgun is designed to work. The rear sight features an open U notch that was likewise easy to see and use.
Accuracy off the bench ran 3 to 3.4 inches — good-enough groups for such a light handgun. As with the GLOCK 42 and SIG P238, I’d really like a laser for best accuracy. There are two so-equipped 911s that come from the factory with integrated green Viridian grip lasers. The model numbers are PG9109VG for the black-nitride finish and PG9109SVG for the stainless model.
Takedown
The 911 pistol isn’t as easily broken down as a Shield. The Smith & Wesson Shield 380 EZ is unloaded and the slide locked to the rear to disassemble, same as the 911. But the Shield is then field-stripped by rotating a lever and running the slide forward.
With the 911, the pistol is unloaded, then the shooter retracts the slide enough for the cut out on the slide to allow the slide lock to be pressed from left to right to remove. The slide is then run forward. The recoil-spring guide is removed, and the barrel is removed. When the pistol is reassembled, the ejector must be pressed downward.
Worth the Money?
As mentioned, the 911 shooter can carry either a 7-round magazine with a finger extension or a flush-fit 6-round magazine. Of course, the 7-round magazine is easier to grasp, and the extended magazine offered more comfort and control during firing.
If I carried the pistol in the pocket, I’d choose the flush-fit magazine. If I carried the 911 in a holster, the finger-extension magazine is a better choice.
I liked the Springfield 911. It was reliable, exhibited enough control and accuracy so I would be comfortable carrying it, and I liked the sights.
Would I buy this gun again? Probably not. I’ve shot the 911 side by side with the Smith & Wesson Shield EZ, and I prefer the EZ. The latter is easier to rack (9 pounds) than the Springfield slide at 9.7 pounds, but both are much easier to operate than a PPK/S and some other pocket pistols. Also, because of the availability of green lasers on two other 911 models, I’d buy one of those ahead of the irons-only PG9109S.
And in the broader market view, there are some other .380s I’ve liked as much or more. Rock Island Armory’s Baby Rock is a bigger gun, thus more comfortable to shoot. The Ruger LCP-C Custom, Kimber’s Micro Carry Advocate, GLOCK’s 42 with a Viridian green laser on it, and the Ruger LCP-CT are four others that I’d put ahead of the 911 if it were my money doing the buying.
But that’s me. If you’re in the market for a smallish .380 ACP for concealed carry, you should rent or borrow and shoot the 911 to see how you like it. Or if you’re already the proud owner of a 911, comment below about what you like — and don’t like about it. At TTAG, we’re all friends, and friends don’t let friends carry sucky guns.
Specifications:
- Action: Semi-auto single action
- Weight Unloaded: 12.5 oz.
- Weight Loaded: 15 oz.
- Overall Length: 5.5 in.
- Overall Height: 3.9 in.
- Maximum Width: 1.1 in.
- Barrel: Length 2.7 in.
- Magazines: (1) 6-round flush, (1) 7-round extended
- Grip Circumference: 4.6 in.
- Slide: Brushed stainless steel
- Frame: Anodized 7075 T6 aluminum
- Grip Panels: G10 Hogue Thin Line
- Trigger Pull (Single Action): 5.0 lbs.
- Safety: Extended ambidextrous frame-mounted levers
- Front Sight: Ameriglo Pro-Glo tritium green/yellow
- Rear Sight: U-notch; tritium green/white single dot
- MSRP: $599 ($564 via Brownells)
RATINGS (out of five stars):
Reliability: * * * * *
Flawless feeding, extraction, and ejection. The “9-1-1” moniker suggests it be used to help you become your own first responder, and operationally, it is up to the task.
Ergonomics (carry): * * * * *
This is a concealable pistol that’s meant to be carried, either in a pocket with a sleeve or in a smallish holster. Some are smaller; many are bigger.
Ergonomics (shooting): * * * *
Well-textured G10 grips. Grip height will determine whether it’s a good fit for the individual hand. Higher-speed, heavier loads do impress the shooter in this very light handgun. Ambidextrous safety levers allow even-handed use by lefties or righties.
Model Choices: * * * * *
There’s a range of options here, but the laser-equipped models would likely perform better for most people.
Overall: * * * *
Though I wouldn’t buy it again for the reasons above, this is a fine handgun that may be exactly your cup of tea. Do try one out yourself. You might really like it.
Nope….SA does not get my business. Not after the crap they tried to shovel. In 2018 I bought four pistols.
Ruger Security9, S&W nickel breaktop in 38 S&W, always wanted one. Romanian Tokarov. And Finally a RIA 1911. Not a Springfield in the bunch.
Just heard today from a guy at work that a buddy has 2 Garands he got from CMP years ago and will sell them for 500.00 each. May need to grab one.
Ruger and smith have both supported gun control in the past.
You hypocrite.
I believe the differentiation there is that Ruger and Smith are under different ownership. Many people did boycott them up until the ownership changed. No reason to continue after that point, though, as the new ownership does not appear to share the gun control-related opinions of the previous ownership.
The only major manufacturer that does business with government agencies that has not sucked up to anti-gun politicians is Beretta. If you are so pure at heart you ought to be patronizing them.
@tdinnva, that’s either an oxymoron, or you haven’t caught on yet?
I think you have described yourself minus the oxy. I guess you forgot the Beretta told Maryland to GFY over their new gun control laws and left the State. They also Virginia that they would expand their facility because McAuliffe started making gun control noises. They will exit Virginia if they go the way of Maryland. Moves costs money and Beretta puts their money where mouth is.
tdinva, why you continue to mischaracterize or flat out lie about what Springfield and rra did is beyond me. They didn’t just suck up to anti-gun politicians. They worked in secret to punish other manufacturers & FFLs while having their businesses excluded from those regulations. When caught, they lied about it repeatedly. Then we found out that not only did they suck up to anti gun politicians, but they heavily donated to anti-gun politicians in close races where that financing made a difference. It is inexcusable. They are traitors.
I will go the moron part, like yeah, I’m cool with being a possum, … Something about the government, Berretta and forcing our soldiers to use the m9. After that. ,,.
Was this sponsored legislation ever passed? Seriously, I don’t know the answer to that. How many other companies pulled their products from Dick’s in protest? At what point do you make up for mistakes?
$500 for a Garand? Send me the one you don’t want, I’m good for it.
Hey, quit being the idiot who takes every opportunity to bash a Company rather than it’s product.
This was a Gun review, not a discourse of Springfield Armory. That subject should be off limits by now.
You either like, don’t like or don’t care about the subject reviewed. Nothing more. Grow up for Christ’s sake.
“You either like, don’t like or don’t care about the subject reviewed. Nothing more. Grow up for Christ’s sake.”
Bashing the company after a product review is in effect saying, “It doesn’t matter what the product does or doesn’t do. I don’t spend money with companies I distrust.” The receiver of such a comment may pause and re-think the value proposition; maybe not.
I’m used to Glocks. Can’t ever carry a gun with a safety or cocked and locked. Range, yes. Carry, no.
The chamber-loaded Glock is, because of its striker mechanism, always 90% cocked (how could it be not where the mere trigger pull cocks the gun for final before releasing to shoot, triggers hardly can employ the leverage to full cock (not to mention what that would do to accuracy, see ‘double action revolver’) so it’s pre-cocked), and that little crap ‘safety’ lever on the trigger is hardly (I use massive understatement here) ‘locked’ in any sense approaching 1911 ‘locked’. So keep carrying that almost ready-to-fire pre-cocked barely safe gun in your pocket or elsewhere. You are a moron.
BTW I wouldn’t carry this (or any) 1911 miniclone chambered and cocked ‘n’ locked which doesn’t have a grip safety. So that means Israeli carry (grump, grump). Or half cock, hide the butterfingers and only those with a Series 80 firing pin block (I don’t think SA has, I do think Sig has). Too bad because except for that squared off trigger guard I otherwise like this SA. But if Sig then why not a 938?
I pocket carry cocked and locked all the time. I also have a job that is very physical. The safety works great and so does a Desantis Nemesis holster.
Out of sight, out of mind. 🙂
*Out of sight, out of mind. (The striker compared to hammer fired, not the pistol).
Aww, won’t anybody play with you, “Angry Dad?”
I like pejorative throwers like you. They’re easy to deflate. All it takes is a little logic.
Since Glock pistols are in massive use, all over the world and in every conceivable situation that a pistol can be used in, then, after 30+ years of use, any design flaw in the Glock design would have shown itself.
If Glock pistols are drop safe when they’re “90% cocked,” then why are so very, VERY few reports of A.D.s?
Just here for the #neverSpringfield comments.
Sorry to the hopeless, it’s Walther pp, the Highlander of .380’s. and that’s the truth about .380’s
For my money, I’d put the Browning 1911-380 at the top of the list.
To me .45 acp is 1911. 380 is Walther pp. All the rest are poser’s..IMO( which don’t amount to sht)… Don’t wanna get started, but there’s more to the gun then what we realize. It’s about caliber and controllability, weight, recoil, knockdown power,( it is a thing ,m v be damned) and what the firearm is intended for.
If you actually meant PP vs. PPK or PPK/s, I’m with you bro. The small extra length of bbl and slide is negatively meaningless and positively meaningful in terms of balance, sighting and pointability. The better gun IMHO.
Beretta Cheetah for me. One of the finest .380’s of all time, IMHO.
Bersa Thunder 380, because I’m cheap, I like it, and perfect is the enemy of good enough.
“In the crowded field of .380 ACP handguns, why would you pick the Springfield Armory 911 sub-compact over ……”
Umm, Grip Zone heritage, duhh.
The 911, the SIG 238/938, Kimber whatever, and Colt Mustang/Pony/MK4 are all the same gun. Does anyone know of a significant difference between any of them? Anyone have a link to an actual comparison of the look-alikes?
Uhh, they all look different? i think that’s about it. Except for us Californians–only the P238 is sold here to us regular civilians. (We don’t even get the P938.)
The 911 is lighter than the Sig and Kimber and can be had much cheaper if you look around.
“The 911 is lighter than the Sig and Kimber and can be had much cheaper if you look around.”
I guess price would be a discriminator. Was thinking more along the lines of function. Weight differential would be a consideration. Would think the market for micro-1911 style pistols already saturated.
Nope. I bought one.
Competition for customers is good for us.
” In the crowded field of .380 ACP handguns, why would you pick the Springfield Armory 911 sub-compact over the GLOCK 42, a Smith & Wesson Bodyguard, a CW380 from Kahr, one of Ruger’s LC versions? Why a 911 over a S&W Shield EZ, a Colt Mustang, a SIG SAUER P238, a Bersa Thunder, or traveling back in concept, a Walther PPK/S? ”
Well, I wouldn’t pick any of these pistols.
I have a Walther PK380, and of all the pistols I have, it’s my all-around favorite. It’s a bit horsey for a .380, but it has the same ergonomics as my P99 (and the PPQ) — they look almost identical except for one being ever so slightly smaller. Switching from one to the other is an almost imperceptible difference in the feel.
Why did Walther make the PK 380 safety so wired?
You can pull the trigger and the hammer drops when the safety is applied.
The gun does not fire when on safe, but everything else happens.
Also the need for a tool to field strip the gun.
Why did they feel the need to do those things?
1. Good job on SA for spending all that R&D money on a completely new… Oh, wait. Nevermind.
2. You lost me at saying a cardboard box was suitable for range carry…
3. I wonder if this new guy “Woody” is the “concubine operator” Elaine D. fawns over? Seems to be capable of polishing this turd pretty well.
I’ve no problem with buying from Springfield Armory. No firearms maker is 100% infallible, otherwise they’d be helping all the states fight back Leftism. None are. To expect a company to just bend over for you, who they don’t even know…that’s a bit idiotic. Hell, half the BLM folk don’t even stand up for the citizens and they exist to serve and protect. If BLM on the whole won’t go out on a limb for private citizens, I don’t expect any firearms maker to do it.
I won’t buy a SA 911 because I care more for bigger calibers and want more ammo in the mag, so I bought an XD45 instead. 🙂
Yo, Gunny, is the B in BLM Black (Lives Matter) or Blue. It’s confusin’ Yer point, I’m gettin’ all black ‘n’ blue just thinkin’ about it.
Proof once again that the .45ACP is the only known mental cure for SPS.
Supposedly, the mags for the SA 911 are completely interchangeable with SIG P238 mags. Since they go for about half what a P238 mag runs, it could be a good way to stock up on extra mags (if you own a P238, that is).
I’ve owned 3 SA 1911’s in the past, every single one of them needed their feed ramp polished to work reliably… will never own one for defensive carry since I don’t trust the reliability… I do have an xdm 45 for my home gun… just won’t trust their 1911’s
I shot mine straight out of the box and got one FTE on the second magazine. I had one in the pipe, and switched mags to check the other one out, so I don’t know if that had anything to do with it. After cleaning and lube, zero malfunctions.
Garbage gun built by a garbage company, who’s run by people who are straight garbage. Maybe they can sell that garbage with a side of treason.
With those dimensions it might as well be 9×19. If I wanted an easy shooting big 380, my list would be beretta 86, shield ez, pk380.
Friends don’t let friends by springfields!
It is spelled, “buy”, not “by”. “by” is a preposition. “buy” is a verb or noun, depending on usage. Before ridiculing people on buying Springfields, you should at least know the difference between “buy” and “by”.
Friends don’t let friends miss-spell the word “buy”.
Nice speech Gunny, by and by.
Bob is correct. “By” means “in proximity of,” so friends don’t let friends go near Springfields.
LOL…yeah, right.
Just another pretty Colt Mustang Defender (Aluminum body) clone.
Just stick to Colt Mustang XSP (lighter polymer body with removable sights), if you can find one.
Options are a good thing, Debbie Downer.
I have a stainless 911, irons only (no laser), that I acquired this past July. It’s my EDC gun and overall, I am very happy with it. It is accurate, has great sights, and the overall ergonomics are excellent.
My only complaints are:
– It was a bit dirty out of the box. Apparently after test-firing at the factory, they do a half-ass job of cleaning them, or at least that was the case with my example.
– Needed breaking in for truly reliable cycling. First 200 rounds had a few FTFs, light primer strikes. I suppose that is true for a lot of autos, especially small ones, but it would be nice if that wasn’t necessary out of the box. All is good now, however.
– Tight tolerances result in superior accuracy for a pocket pistol…but mean frequent cleaning is a must. I clean mine every 100 rounds, which in practice means after every range session. Gone are my lazy days of revolver carry when I would just wipe my weapon down after the range and clean it maybe after every third or fourth trip.
Otherwise, super pistol; would highly recommend.
It makes no sense that the author is comparing this gun to the Shield EZ and the Baby Rock. Those guns are not pocket guns, and therefore, they’re in a different class. By saying you prefer the EZ because the slide is so much easier, you’re implying that the slide is difficult to rack on the 911; it isn’t at all. By the time you’re approaching 20 oz in a belt carry gun, most people would just get a 9mm.
I have a Sig P238 thst has been sitting in my safe for the last 6 or 7 years. Back to Sigs CS 4 times and still can’t do a double tap with anything. If any one wants it. Come and get it as I won’t pass it off to any unsuspecting 2nd owner. Rainbow edition by the way another negative. My
P938 how ever works fine so no more 380s for me. Regardless of whos clones are out there.
Has Springfield Armory apologized for their transgressions?
Do people continue to support the enablers that stuck around at Dick’s?
About the gun, since this is a gun review and nothing else. I have shot the 911 twice, 50 rds at 3, 5, and 7 yards. I have also shot the lcp2, s&w shield ez, and kahr. The 911 “fits” my hand best of all of these and has the least felt recoil as a result. It also is the best shooter and most accurate of these in my hands.
As of this posting, you can get a 911, 5 mags, and a range bag from an online seller for $450.00. I believe everyone should carry the gun that suits their needs best, and for me it’s the 911
Much as I favor the 1911 design and thus might like this SA 911, as mentioned earlier without a grip safety or firing pin block I would not carry chambered cocked and locked or even half cocked. Rather, I fancy the S&W Model M&P BODYGUARD® 380, a DAO hammer fired which has a firing pin block and also an unnecessary but useable-with safety. I’ve not fired one tho’ I hear the trigger pull is long, etc., but then probably not more than a J frame double actioned. I like the looks of it and with suitable parts upgrades (from what I read) think it would be a snazzy carry gun. Unlike the SA 911, you don’t have to cock it first, just point and squeeze, like a J frame; that it lacks a grip safety is of no moment. Although he is a master’s master and thus hardly a useful everyday example since most cannot approach his capabilities, nonetheless Jerry Miculek has a youtube S&W video touting the gun, and he has no problemo even with the long trigger pull shooting all six into a close target in just over 1 sec., so it can be done.
Sorry, Angry Dad, that is.
The 911 is a single action only pistol. The 911 incorporates many safety features, such as the firing pin safety, hammer half cock position and disconnector. The 911 also features an integrated thumb safety. The thumb safety blocks hammer movement and can be engaged with the hammer cocked or hammer down.
Sounds like four safeties engineered into the 911 pistol. There is a fifth one, that is knowing where your index finger is.. The above spec. was copied from the 911 Manual.
I love my 911 .380. Its easy to conceal/carry. As with any self defense firearm, you have to work with it. Just because you buy a violin doesn’t mean you can show up to a concert and play it. After about 300 rounds on the range, I had a few issues I wasn’t happy with. I sent it in and it has been perfect since. There is a BIG difference in plinking on the range and actually (God Forbid) having to defend yourself. Point being, all this B.S. about needing specific sights, and glow in the dark, red dot B.S, is just that – B.S.! Pick a firearm that imprints as less as possible and WORK WITH IT! Too many people out there who are Bar Tough but have never had to defend themselves. 1st shot on target wins – regardless of rig and what you have on it. PRACTICE!
I have a 911 and, at this pint, have mixed feelings. Starting with the end result, accuracy at 10 yds is excellent. The superb trigger is far exceeds the ability of this shooter. I occasionally see what looks like key holing, but that could be the cheap paper of the target. With the degree of accuracy I get, I don’t care if the bullet tumbles.
The down side is that is has not been reliable at all. I have had failures to feed where the cartridge would not enter the chamber, the slide would not go fully into battery, and experienced stove piping. I take the blame on the stove pipes. I sent it to SA for warranty work. Turn around was about three weeks, and I’m good with that. All issues were addressed and fixed. BUT, now it has failures to extract. The gun is back at SA. I have no doubt that it will function fine when returned. Springfield is reputable and they do have good customer service. Any new firearm can have teething problems. I am disappointed that I had them, but it does happen occasionally. This is not usual but again, I am confident that the issues will be resolved.
Well, it’s been two months and this 911 still isn’t working reliably. First time in, Springfield reamed out the firing chamber and supposedly polished the feed ramp. I think they did, but I wasn’t really having problems with feeding. As stated above, it wouldn’t go into battery. When I got it back, I only fired a few rounds, all fed and no chambering issues but failures to extract, as mentioned above. Second time in, Springfield replaced the extractor. Now it won’t go FULLY into battery. Close and better, but not enough. About one of every 10 rounds, the slide closes, enough for the hammer to fall, but not enough to discharge a round. I’ve tried several different brands of ammo. I tried holding it like a tea cup. I’ve tried holding it like in a vise. I don’t want to send it back again, but I also can’t rely on it, so I will. Maybe just this one is a lemon.
Have you tried a different cleaner?
Not as frequent as yours, but I also had some failure to go into battery issues even after my initial 200 break in rounds. On the advice of a local range proprietor, switched from using Breakfree CLP to Gun Scrubber, a non petroleum based aerosol, on the slide assembly. No problems whatsoever since; recently put 160 rounds through mine without a cleaning, and without a hiccup.
The oily stuff can leave a residue that can be a problem for small guns with tight tolerances. Just a thought.
I use Gun Scrubber as a cleaner and degreaser. After cleaning, I do use Breakfree as a lubricant and never had a problem with my other guns. I could try using a petroleum lube but don’t think I should run it dry.
I’m starting to think the problem might be me. I let the gun dealer borrow the gun for a weekend and he shot it with no problem. With all the different holding styles I’ve tried, I don’t know what else to do. I’ve got a Kimber Ultra CDP and shoot it fine.
I’ll try the different lube as I really like the gun, when it works. I’ll post here and let you know how it goes.
It doesn’t seem to be a lube issue. It’s either this particular specimen or it’s me.
If it’s not GLOCK, then it’s a piece of crap. End of discussion.
I had a Kahr CW 380 and Kahr CM 9 both for pocket carry. Loved the,m both but they became too hard to rack and field strip so I had to sell them. Checked out the p238 and p938, the Bodyguard, the Rutgers, and several others. Being 81 i’ Particular. Bought the 911 shortly after it came out and have over 3000 rounds through it thus far. I carry Civil Defense but shoot cheap range ammo mostly at least twice a month. Can get all rounds inside the 8 ring at 30 feet – 95% within the 9 ring. Love the 911. Clean it every couple of hundred rounds. Carry it cocked and locked in a pocket holster. If cocked and locked scares you, stay away from any SA auto. If you practice regularly and know what you’re doing most guns will work well. Get what you like and are comfortable with and practice, practice, practice. Loved the Kahrs, but gettin’ old is tough. 911 works well for me as would many others – this is my personal choice. Considering a Sig p365 also – several friends carry them. Get what YOU like and are comfortable with and don’t sit around trashing others choices?
I had a Kahr CW 380 and Kahr CM 9 both for pocket carry. Loved the,m both but they became too hard to rack and field strip so I had to sell them. Checked out the p238 and p938, the Bodyguard, the Rugers, and several others. Being 81 I’m Particular. Bought the 911 shortly after it came out and have over 2000 rounds through it thus far. I carry Civil Defense but shoot cheap range ammo mostly at least twice a month. Can get all rounds inside the 8 ring at 30 feet – 95% within the 9 ring. Love the 911. Clean it every couple of hundred rounds. Carry it cocked and locked in a pocket holster. If cocked and locked scares you, stay away from any SA auto. If you practice regularly and know what you’re doing most guns will work well. Get what you like and are comfortable with and practice, practice, practice. Loved the Kahrs, but gettin’ old is tough. 911 works well for me as would many others – this is my personal choice. Considering a Sig p365 also – several friends carry them. Get what YOU like and are comfortable with and don’t sit around trashing others choices, they may be Much better than you.
I just bought this gun, and there isn’t a single thing that works properly. Failure to feed, extract, stove pipe, spongey trigger pull that ranges from 5lb to 12 lb, and two magazines that you have to slam on a table to insert. I’ve used pmc bronze, Winchester white box, and speed gold dot and with all ammo this gun equally fails about every 3 shots. There’s even metal shavings around the extractor and the thumb safety wiggles loose. First time I’ve ever even had a problem with a brand new firearm, so lessen learned that springfield has no problem selling a 600$ paperweight.
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