Over 600 comments, mostly detrimental, were entered on the original review of the C9 in 2011. There was a follow-up review written by one of the more vocal critics and now 9 years later I have another C9, the special Yeet Cannon G1 edition.
There was certainly an abundance of CAPS LOCK commandos hitting quite hard as well as plenty of the “I’ve fired 1000,000 rounds with no failures,” meme. Hopefully you fine folks will be a bit more receptive to my take on the new Yeet Cannon.
Speaking of memes the Hi-Point pistol is a bit of a meme all on its own. It’s a big, ugly gun that is incredibly affordable and the hundred dollar bill edition secured its place as internet fodder and fun with people my age.
It’s funny that the 2011 article and the nature of many of the responses to it have become one of the reasons the gun is so popular with people my age. That’s why the name Yeet Cannon became a thing.
Hi-Point hosted a contest to name their newest model, a move which the company soon learned is not without risk. The Yeet Cannon moniker quickly edged out the competition.
Following that, Hi-Point nearly made a massive mistake by throwing those votes away. The internet threw a fit, and even HK stepped in to advise Hi-Point to listen to their consumers. Luckily, they did and the new YC9 will be premiering later this year.
In the mean time, Hi-Point, wanting to cash in on the meme, has released the special edition Hi-Point Yeet Cannon G1 edition of their C9 pistol until the YC 9 premiers. To be clear, this is just a standard C9 pistol with “Yeet Cannon G1” laser engraved on the slide. Still, I saw one in my local gun store and instantly snapped it up.
Hi-Point offered to send a G1, but it was quicker to just buy one, and for 160 bucks it wasn’t much of a sacrifice. Prior to this, I had only fired a Hi-Point carbine and never handled a C9 or any other Hi-Point I can remember.
First Impressions of the Yeet Cannon
First thing first; I was surprised at how comfortable the G1’s grip is. It conforms to the hand especially well and feels great in the hand. It’s a hefty beast for sure but not punishingly so. It’s an ugly gun, and the slide is massive to accommodate the blowback action.
The slide will lock to the rear when empty, but the only way to drop the slide is to insert a loaded mag or remove the mag and then manipulate the slide. There’s no slide release lever. It’s annoying, as is the gun’s magazine safety…you can’t fire the C9 G1 with the magazine removed.
The magazine release is actually very well placed. I can activate it without radically changing my grip on the gun. Just a quick thumb movement and the magazine drops out freely and cleanly, loaded or not.
It also snaps into place in a very sure, satisfying way. Inserting a fully loaded magazine with slide closed requires a solid slap to get the magazine seated into the gun.
The rear serrations on the Yeet Cannon G1’s slide are short and shallow. The slide itself is massive and Hi-Point could have taken better advantage of that by making them bigger deeper. Sadly, they chose not to.
The Yeet Cannon G1 comes in a simple cardboard box with a trigger lock, a rear peep sight, and a tool for the sights that doubles as a key for the trigger lock. You also get the typical instruction manual.
The Yeet Cannon model is no different than the standard C9 mechanically or even as a package. The differences are purely aesthetics. It says Yeet Cannon G1 in silver lettering on one side and on the chamber. Other than that, they’re identical.
To the Range with the Yeet Cannon
I was a little apprehensive about the range. I’d never handled one of these pistols and the online world is split into three general categories, declaring that the C9 is . . .
- Beloved, affordable, and reliable
- Absolute crap, a big ugly boat anchor
- LOL, a Hi-Point
I approached the range session with an open mind and was nearly disappointed. In my first magazine, I had a failure to extract, three rounds in. I caught myself thinking this was going to be a shit show.
However, that was the last failure that day and for the next 200 rounds. The next day I picked up a 20-round RedBall extended magazine and ran into two problems with it, but those were tied to the magazine because the rounds nose-dived and the gun simply cycled over them.
It’s Okay Though!
The gun itself ran perfectly after that through hundreds of rounds. Not a single issue using the OEM magazine that’s included with the gun.
I utilized mostly Remington 115 Grain Military and LE training ammo, and a single mag of 124 grain 9m +P Speer Gold Dot JHPs. The gun is +P rated so, why not? Then I finished up with some very old Winchester Ranger 115 grain JHPs and they ran without issue.
The biggest issue with the C9 Yeet Cannon G1 is the virtual lack of texturing on the grip. It’s the middle of summer and I’m in a southern state. My hands start sweating fast and the little gun shifted easily in my wet hands.
You can swap the factory grips for a pair of heavily textured grips that are available on Amazon and that might be a worthy and necessary upgrade.
Given its fairly heavy 29 ounce weight, recoil is very mild and comfortable with the Yeet Cannon. It’s less than most other compact guns, but the C9 is hardly compact.
That massive slide is heavy and absorbs the blast associated with a blowback system. The high visibility sights with contrasting red (rear) and yellow (front) are a nice touch that makes focusing on the front sight easy. Accuracy-wise the gun gets the job done.
Admittedly the sights were dialed in way too low from the factory. I was hitting 4 to 6 inches below point of aim. A quick adjustment of the rear sight had me on target.
At 20 yards I had no issues dropping rounds into the vital zone of a Sage Dynamics Headshot target. Beyond that things get a little more iffy.
Color Me Impressed
The Yeet Cannon G1 handles better than many guns that cost twice the price of the Hi-Point. Nothing about the gun is exceptional, but most things are serviceable and very functional.
The C9 trigger is only okay, but better than a $160 gun has any right to be. The manual safety, though, kind of sucks.
The good news is it’s easy to deactivate in a hurry and won’t accidentally engage. However, it’s hard to activate while in a firing stance, and requires a total movement of the firing hand or the use of your off hand.
Overall, my complaints are mild when you consider this gun is so easy on the wallet. It’s functional, dependable, accurate enough, and affordable for almost everyone. The Yeet Cannon G1 is no tuned 1911, but it reliably spits lead and that has me impressed.
Specifications: Hi-Point Yeet Cannon G1 C9 Pitol
Barrel Length – 3.5 inches
Overall Length – 6.75 inches
Weight – 29 ounces
Caliber – 9mm
Capacity – 8 rounds
MSRP – $179 (about $160 retail)
Ratings (out of five stars):
Reliability * * * *
Outside of one failure, the gun has run perfectly. I’m not counting the two problems with the Redball mag because I believe those are magazine-related failures. It did fail once so I can’t give it a perfect five stars.
Accuracy * * *
I shoot more accurately with most other guns. I find myself limited to about 20 yards — self-defense distance with the Yeet Cannon G1 for effectively placed shots on target.
Ergonomics * * *
In nutshell, the ergonomics aren’t bad at all. It’s a functional, pain-free design that works. The gun’s on the heavy side (six ounces more than a comparably sized GLOCK 19) and the grips could use a bit more aggressive texturing, but we got what we got. The safety is also a downside, but a minor one.
Customization *
You can swap grips out or buy aftermarket extended magazines. That’s about it.
Overall Rating * * * 1/2
I was torn here. I was thinking four stars because the price is so darned good. Like other Hi-Points, the G1 does what it’s supposed to do. It’s reliable, has decent ergonomics, and goes bang when you pull the trigger. The C9 Yeet Cannon G1 is far from great (or streamlined, or refined), but it’s a very functional, affordable 9mm handgun.
Possible future special edition: Cory Booker edition “his face and name Spartacus” laser engraved on slide.. Jihad Squad edition Omar, AOC Rashida face laser engrave with their likeness superimposed over Mount Rushmore
Cannot let this review go by without a comment from me.
YEET!!! POW POW POW!!!
I need one just for the name and collection factor. *flaps wings*
As long as Highpoint doesn’t go out and make a hundred thousand of them, this is going to be a very collectable piece someday.
I’m gonna wait for the Joe Biden Mossberg 500.
Shouldn’t that be a Stoeger coach gun ?
Are Stoegers double-barrel?
Yes, the coach gun is. I actually like double barrels. That asshole biden had to put a stigma on them.
The Corn Pop G2
There are a few firearms that I always hoped my opponent would be armed with if it came to that. A Hi-Point is one of them.
Dying via high point, the worst death.
Dan, I didn’t intend to die. I was counting on my training, superior firearms and equipment to make sure the hood rat died. He would have the honor of being shot with a custom 1911. Of course, there is that thing The Duke said to Ron Howard about the third eye. A friend of mine was ambushed on a domestic. Shot in the back of the head with a .357.
Not to mention there doesn’t have to be much life left in a bad guy to pull the trigger one last time.
Not if I shoot him in the head. Something about those large caliber hollow points that tend to disrupt the central nervous system.
‘Not if I shoot him in the head.’
Correction, not if you shoot him in the brain. Knocking out a few of his teeth is not going to render him incapable of operating a firearm.
Gov, I agree, but I’ve seen it take the fight out of a few.
“Gov, I agree, but I’ve seen it take the fight out of a few.” Unless your talking about movies, I call bullshit. I agree it would, but I doubt you’ve seen it.
SKB5885, you’re obviously new to this web site. Older guys be patient. I spent nearly 25 years as an L.E.O. Seen ’em killed every way it can be done. A quadruple homicide, two triples. Too many misdemeanor murders to remember. (You know. One bad guy kills another. What’s the down side?) I was the lead firearms instructor for my agency. They sent me to nearly every firearms related death autopsy we had. I was an I witness to an homicide one night. I call bullshit. SKB, you want case numbers?
Simply making them aware that you’re armed is enough to take the fight out of the vast majority of bad guys. However a little amateur ballistic dentistry might put the fight back in.
SKB, go back to your mother’s basement. Leave the real dialogue to the men.
Gov, I respect your opinion. Always have. However, making them aware you’re armed doesn’t always put the fear of God in them. A big deep hole might. One in the head almost always does.
Gadsden, of course, your bad guy mileage may vary. Most aren’t bright, but still have a healthy drive for self preservation. Some bad guys will flee at the sound of a pump shotgun racking, some will turn tail and run when they hear a loud bang, some will give up the fight when they realize that they’ve been shot, and a few will have to lose consciousness before they’ll give up. Hope for the best, prepare for the worst.
Gov, yep. All said is true, but when it’s all said and done those bigger, deeper holes work best. I mean really, how could they not?
Of course, all this is very interesting, but I want to hear back from SKP. Or, whoever his ignorant, ill informed ass he is.
Gadsden, bigger and deeper or more of them. Personally I can prescribe to either tactic. I never felt undergunned carrying a 17+1 9mm, but now I carry a 3″ .357 loaded with 158gr Double Taps. Hit ’em hard or hit ’em often, I guess. Hopefully I’ll never find out if I’ve picked the right tactic.
👍🏻 If you say so. I’ve been coming to this website on a daily basis since 2012. I’ve read plenty of your comments. I just think you are full of it.
Getting shot by a 9mm is still getting shot by a 9mm, with all that ballistically entails.
I think I’d much rather be shot with something less ‘energetic’, like .25ACP.
And it just so happens, Lorcin, Raven, Phoenix Arms, Bryco, etc, etc, make crappy little .25ACP jobs that have a solid history of not going *Bang* when the bang-switch gets depressed.
For all it’s hideousness, the Hi-Point has a well-earned reputation for going *Bang* when asked…
Geoff, I wish I had a $100 Bill for every one I saw with a broken extractor. I get the economics of it, but I’d eat Raman Noodles until I saved enough cash to buy a solid, used S&W model 10 from a pawn shop before I defiled myself by carrying a Hi-Point.
If you only need it to fire a hundred rounds over the life of the gun… a broken extractor probably isn’t much of an issue.
It’s a straight blow back, does it even need an extractor? Lol
If it’s the extractor that’s failed, a round has already left the chamber.
Until it breaks. First time it happens is the last shot you fire. Are you betting your life on that pistol?
If I’m some poor SOB who doesn’t have much of a choice because I dropped out of high school with my girlfriend having twins along the way?
Just because it wouldn’t be my first choice doesn’t mean that I’m going to hold my nose up at people less fortunate than me who might not have any other viable options to defend their family.
I won’t turn up my nose at anyone chosing to defend with a gun known to go bang, but have extractor issues.
Think about it, twice as much to move up to a S&W SD9VE. Over 3x for a Sig (Sigpro) and more for a Glock or many of the guns we brag about.
Did I read correctly the reviewer out more in ammo through the gun than its purchase price?
if the extractor breaks, one can always just throw it at the aggressor and hope for the best.
But Seriously Folks, there are so many other options out there for not too much more money that will get the job done more reliably. Street price on an old-fashioned Bersa Thunder 380 with a seven round magazine is only $230. For $368, you can get it with Crimson Trace grips. It’s a little heavy by today’s standards, but it’s made of real metal and disappears in a pocket holster. It has never failed to go bang, and puts shots where I want them.
Jeremy, it doesn’t need an extractor if it’s an HK P7, but if it’s a Hi-Point, it needs everything it can get.
Is a steel extractor no different than any other. But i believe the reason they get broken. Is that people are firing 380 through a c9. The 380 and 9mm hipoint look nearly identical. Aside from a silver stripe on the 380. And both share the same magazines and components. The only difference is the chamber of the barrel. I would not be surprised if they use the same recoil spring. The magazines are marked 380/9mm on the c9 9mm. I believe the people you surround yourself with are dumb enough to fire 380 through a 9mm and break the extractor. Because thats what a 380 round would headspace on in a 9mm
Hurry up and Die Ruthie.
I’m always glad to see you keep up with current events.
If it’s me and my 4095 carbine, you do not want to be my opponent. True 100yd pistol cal carbine fires every time I pull the trigger and hits what I aim at. Ugliest firearm I’ll ever love!
bill. I’ll see your 4095 carbine at 100 yards and raise you an HK-91 at 300. Or, an ’03A3 at 500. We won’t even get into the whole cover and concealment thing. I took a Hi-Point carbine off a suspect once. Stolen out of Tampa if I remember correctly. It was a larger version of a turd.
… and I’ll see you at 800 with my mk12 SPR. If we’re done with the dick waving contest, let’s not forget that a gun is a gun is a gun and even a ye-olde pepperbox will work just fine to put down the methhead who decided that a knife and a dark alley were sufficient tools to relieve you of wallet and possibly your life.
If we’re not done, I can always raise you a M82A1…
Serge: yes. Absolutely true
Numbskulls are considering the 1M round count reliability of their chosen gat when the 1st rd exiting the barrel (of any aggressor) is what I care about.
As far as carrying, that 1M round count reliability starts to matter.
pweserge, I can’t remember when I shot my first Barrett .50 BMG rifle. It was a long, long time ago. A pistol caliber carbine; especially a piece of shit pistol caliber carbine, shouldn’t even be mentioned in the same sentence as a real rifle.
pweserge, not sure about that. Back in the day you could legally carry a Navy Colt in Memphis, TN. A rough river town. Couldn’t carry a Bowie knife. Wounds were too severe. I know I’d rather have one of my Randall #1s than a pepper box. Ever seen a man eviscerated? It’s impressive.
A knife fight is bad for everyone involved. The difference is that one person winds up in the ER while the other generally goes straight to the morgue.
I haven’t seen this much cockfighting since the time I went to Thailand with John Travolta.
The differences in effect between a hi-point and a custom 1911 are not that high on the list of variables in a gunfight. I guess the upside is that the person carrying a custom 1911 is- hopefully?- more likely to have trained quite a bit with it and therefore get the first good shot in and maybe have better ammo.
Bought the $100 hydro dipped c9 a few years back because all the wood, stainless steel, and blues metal just felt tacky and lacking in my gun safe. The ten round extended magazine with the 1.5” plastic chunk on the bottom transforms this gun into a masterpiece of beauty.
The ergonomics are horrible for my hands and it feels uncomfortable after a box. If you buy one, you do need to shoot a box to learn the right way to load magazines. That is where all your malfunctions are going to be as the rounds “nose dive” unless you load them right.
Overall, I found it to be pretty dang accurate, the weight helps a lot. Would not buy another except as joke like this one, but if this is all you can afford…. buy a maverick 88 12 gauge.
Also I’m technically a millennial (born 1981) and I have no idea what yeet cannon implies even after looking up yeet on urban dictionary.
“Also I’m technically a millennial (born 1981) and I have no idea what yeet cannon implies even after looking up yeet on urban dictionary.”
“Paging Strych9. Mr. Strych9 to the TTAG white courtesy phone, please…”
*snicker* 😉
Why does it have to be a WHITE courtesy phone. Rayciss assed cracker. 😉
You’re not a millennial, ’81’s (myself included) are at the tail-end of generation x. My old man was born in ’62 and had me when he was 19, he’s also gen-x.
I can never keep these generation things straight. I’m firmly gen x though. The one nobody ever talks about
The one trying to clean up the baby boomer mess while rolling their eyes at the new mess being created by the millennials.
Napresto says “The one trying to clean up the baby boomer mess while rolling their eyes at the new mess being created by the millennials.”
Boy oh boy you ain’t whistling Dixie. The baby boomers, worst generation ever; they shit on everything.
Hopefully the millennial’s won’t do the same where they eat. However, they are exhibiting quite a bit of a privileged attitude.
I’m a boomer, guys. You know what my crime was? I served my country. I worked 2 jobs for well over 20 years. I paid my taxes. I voted. I stayed out of trouble and tried to treat all around me decently.
Now I’ll let you triggered, privileged shits in on a little secret. Every generation thinks the one before fucked the nest up. Every. Last. One.
Some of you will stop whining, put on your big boy pants and get on with life. Those of you that don’t will migrate to the democrat party.
62 makes your dad a boomer. 1964 is the cut off for boomers.
Cheap guns are fun. I have the C9 and HP carbine. Maverick 88 12 ga. But that Phoenix 22 from California is a real POS!
Cheap guns can be fun. I recently picked up a Rossi RS22 rifle for $99 brand new. I like it. It is super light, and the sights are the best of any of my 22s (also have a Henry, Marlin 60 and 795). The Rossi does feel a bit chinsy light a BB gun, but seems to work fine.
I’ve had a Pheonix Arms HP-22 for over 25 years now, and the only time I’ve had issues with it not functioning correctly is when I didn’t clean it for years (and several hundred rounds).
There is a break in period of a few hundred rounds. Keep it clean and lubed, add some skateboard grip tape to the slide, and you’re good to go.
Video game vernacular.
It’s not in my nature to be kind to more boring plastic striker sh– I don’t care what kind of name you put on. It’s plastic Striker crap no matter how many stars are put after it.
Whatever happened to that redesign with the accessory rail and the actual extractor? Looked like it’d make a decent gun to keep in the can, if nothing else.
…What? I wouldn’t keep any of the nicer weapons in there, and I damn sure ain’t gonna be vulnerable to an intruder while I’m busy dropping a deuce.
That’s still coming, this isn’t actually the Yeet Canon. This is just a regular High Point with Yeet Cannon painted on the side.
My Hi-Point C9 is my carry gun. Yes, it weighs two pounds on my hip, but I survived Vietnam wearing a six-pound M-1 steel pot on my head, so two pounds on the hip is nothing. It’s heavy, it’s clunky, it hit every single branch on the ugly tree on its way down – but it works. Flick the safety off with my thumb (it’s really not complicated), pull the trigger, it fires. Each time, every time.
Run a rag down the barrel every now and then for cleaning. No need to disassemble it (it’s not impossible, but it’s not recommended). Give the innards a blast of air for more cleaning. A little lube oil along the slides, if desired.
Laugh all you want. For the $129 I paid for it, it beats out far more expensive toys any day of the week.
“Laugh all you want. For the $129 I paid for it, it beats out far more expensive toys any day of the week.”
No laugh here, Master sergeant. If it looks stupid, but works, it ain’t stupid.
A *High-Five* to you, and thanks for your service…
I humped a prick many a kick. Didn’t make a piece of shit pistol any better. Or, an M16A1.
Welcome home Bro. When I was humping a prc77 I usually carried a grease gun. I hated the matel toy. Most the time I was happy with the m-14.
Oh the prick 77. Those were the days
My .357 weighs 2-1/2 pounds loaded and it rides on my belt fine. Just heavy enough to remind me it’s there. I think some of the younger generation just need to toughen up a bit.
I had a dream last night that I had a .44 magnum and that my .45 1911 exploded.
Someone or something is trying to tell you something.
I had a Ruger Vaquero birdshead .44 mag that I carried on a couple of occasions. Had to sell it to help fund a medical vacation, but it’s about at the top of my buy list. Those weigh in at 39 oz, I think. About the same as a 1911, but slightly less loaded. Sweet shooting little SA.
My 642 weighs right about a pound and slips comfortably into a pocket. I like it. I do give you kudos for lugging around a proper .357. I love my Security Six, but don’t carry it.
Well gang members can afford them 160 $ Real popular for big city gangs. The cartels in Mesico will buy them by the 1000 pack for $65.00 throw away’s leave it with the body. A Ohio company did this in the 80’s I forget the name but they were around 100.00. They went down for some other reason. My friend knew the owner from high school so I saw one when they were first introduced. I picked it up and then put it back down. Not for me.
Gang members can afford whatever heaters they want. I for one, have no problem with guns designed for the low income demographic so long as they work. You don’t need to clear six figures to have the right to defend yourself.
TTAG loses credibility when they “feature” this crap(their carbine’s are OK). My one and only lowpoint ran like crap. I’ve also gotten FIVE Tauruses to run perfectly. If funds are your gang’s problemo Point Blank is selling the Taurus Spectrum for 129 bucks this week. 2 magazines. Dunno how muy bueno they are! Made in America I believe for all you Ohio boys…
See my comment below. There is nothing illegitimate or déclassé about a Hi-Point.
If buying a C9 is not for you, great. Don’t buy one. If you think reviewing this gun reduces our credibility…we’ll have to live with that.
Every gun review or press release with an MSRP over $1k has 1/3 of the comments bemoaning the fact that they can’t afford said gun. Run a decent review of a budget gun that works and you get 1/3 of the comments bltching about reviewing cheap guns. I guess I’m in the other 1/3 that appreciates both. Keep ’em comin’.
Exactly the point I was going to make somewhere on this posting. Man, I get tired of all the pissing and whining about price.
There are cheap guns and there are expensive guns. There are guns that are a great value, and there are guns that are pieces of art (and therefore become safe queens).
In the end, can’t we all… just get along?
My first handgun was a C9. Didn’t want to dump a wad to find out if I even wanted to start a shooting hobby. Added a grip sleeve and it feels great with good hold. Never a problem with it.
If you need a budget home defense or maybe carry gun check out a $200 Taurus G2c. Better, smaller and 12+1 rounds. Grab a Sig 226 18 or 20 rounder and your all set to protect your family.
Also that Redball mag was for the 9mm carbine only. Not made to use in C9.
Dan, don’t you know that all guns reviewed must cost $500? That is what I paid for my Glock 19. The Glock 19 is the standard of all things.
Guns that cost less than $500 are worthless crap. They aren’t Glock 19s. You can’t trust them. They won’t work.
Guns that cost more than $500 are “fancy pants” guns that only rich snobs can buy. They aren’t Glock 19s, and can’t be trusted.
😵
“run” flawlessly. Oopsie.
*Golfer’s clap*
Nice summary of drinking the glock-aide.
People bitch if you review 2000 dollar handguns. They cry about glock reviews. Oh then they complain about carbine that cost too much. I’m glad TTAG reviews all these guns so I get to see them in action.
So when a low price gun is reviewed everyone calls it a piece of shit they won’t trust their life with. Who asked them what to trust anyway? A 129 dollar 9mm new with a warranty is a good deal for someone making 10 bucks an hour who needs a gun in his house that will see 1 or two boxes of ammo before being loaded into the box by his bed.
I’ve got expensive guns and some 200 dollar specials that I like to shoot. Maybe we need to bring back reader reviews on cheap, old guns that are just plain fun to shoot.
The operators can make love to their awesome handguns instead.
A while back I read an article, I don’t remember where now, about these guys in a gunsmithing class who bought a used 9mm HiPoint for $75.00. They took it to a range and shot it. No, they SHOT it repeatedly with #7 or so shot at, I think, 20 yards. After a while, they inserted a loaded mag into it and it proceeded to tun flawlessly. Hey, if it’s all somebody can afford to defend hearth and home then good on ‘em.
“run” flawlessly. Oopsie.
I respectfully disagree. I’ve seen these guns advertised, and was equally put off by their appearance, but the company is still around so I always wondered what they were like to actually shoot. Unwilling to put my own money at risk, I depend on sites like TTAG to find out for me. Now I know a lot more than I did. Thanks,Travis.
Oh, not this again…These Hi-Points are the saturday night special of the 21st century.
So poor people shouldn’t have access to guns? “Saturday night special” is a derogatory term made up by Demokkkommies to keep their vote slaves disarmed.
“Saturday night special” is the “assault weapon” of inexpensive handguns. It’s a catchy, alarming name assigned by gun banners to a particular class of firearm in order to demonize them and scare the non-gun owning public as justification for DOING SOMETHING about them.
Why shouldn’t there be inexpensive, affordably priced firearms available for those who can’t afford something “better” or more costly?
If you make armed self defense a non-option for low income people, good luck trying to get them to support the 2nd Amendment. They’re going to say “I can’t defend myself with a gun, why should you?” They’re either going to be with us or against us.
The term “Saturday Night Special” is loaded with racial connotations. I’ll leave the research on the origins of the term for interested readers… but let’s just say that it fits in with the racist roots of gun control in the post-Civil War era.
The Second Amendment is for all citizens regardless of socioeconomic position. It is not just for the elite and those with armed security as the Anti2A crowd wants us to believe.
Yeah. Always made me feel better that the army bought my parachutes from the lowest bidder too.
Lynyrd Skynrd showed their gun control feelings with their song of the same name.
Life is too short for ugly women and Hi-Points
“Life is too short for ugly women and Hi-Points”
Well…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qh9ZZgDqzAg
This “Yeet” business again? As I did the last time TTAG posted on this thing, I’ll say it again …
THIS IS NOT HI-POINT’s NEW GUN!!!
It is just a marketing gimmick to make some sales off a silly naming contest for that new gun. A contest that went very badly off the rails.
Here’s a story with photos of the new gun Hi-Point was trying to name in that naming contest:
https://www.alloutdoor.com/2019/01/24/tfbs-exclusive-first-look-hi-points-new-200-pistol/
Actually, it is a smart way to sell off the remaining inventory of C9’s!
Thats what the review says. It says the YC9 is out later this year and that this is them cashing in on their meme.
Honestly, a handgun is a handgun. At bad breath distances, it will put lead on target. That’s all it has to do. Is it a tacticool high speed low drag race gun? No. In a dark alley, it will do the same job as a $3000 custom. Since Demokkkommies made low cost guns largely unavailable because they don’t want their vote slaves armed? It will do.
I am still baffled that Hi-Point only managed to put 8 rounds into that massive grip.
I think they’re trying to avoid the Calico reputation in terms of getting noticed by the antis.
Calico’s M960 was, by all accounts, garbage but they got a lot of flak for that 50-100 round mag. Gun controllers went apeshit.
Make a cheap pistol and you’re already attracting attention. Make it larger than 10 rounds and you’ll really get the Left in a tizzy. They don’t have to attack you on reasonable ground to destroy you. Just ask Blitz about that.
I’m not terribly surprised. The guy from Demo Ranch tested a Hi-Point pistol a while back and basically couldn’t destroy it.
Ran it over with a truck, dragged it for miles behind the truck, submerged it in pond scum… fuck they even shot the gun itself, hitting it right on the front of the extractor where the slide stops and the ejection port begins… gun still worked.
Ugly but functional beats pretty but useless every day of the week. Seems like Hi-Points are to many POTG what the A-10 is to the Air Force or a fat girl is to a college freshman guy. Big, ugly, somewhat embarrassing but goddamn effective and practically indestructible.
‘Ugly but functional beats pretty but useless every day of the week.’ – Should be engraved on Gaston Glock’s headstone. If he ever dies that is.
Isn’t the “ugly but functional” argument the reason why there are self-respecting Americans buying a piece of stamped sheet metal produced in Russia, designed for illiterate peasants and third world thugs, and extolling the reliability of said crudely made gun?
Hmmm?
I’m talking of course, about the AK-47. It’s ugly. It is not that accurate. It was made to function in the hands of people who were barely more advanced than a caveman beating two rocks together.
You must not be a smith, a true ak was milled. An akm was stamped. My ak can hit golf balls at 100 yards first shot all day long. Any weapon platform can be made to be very accurate with the proper application of time, knowledge, and skill. Your comments show you lack any of that.
“You must not be a smith, a true ak was milled.”
(Popping the popcorn and kicking back…)
“True” by *exactly* who’s definition, Bob?
Dyspeptic has been hanging around here for roughly a decade, ‘bob’. He has earned a reputation for knowing WTF he talks about concerning guns…
OK, gun trivia. I’ll play..
The first AK-47, called the “Type 1,” was made starting with prototypes in 1948 from a sheet metal stamping. The AK-47 was designed to be a stamped receiver for reasons of cost reduction. If you read up on the detailed history of the AK-47 and its engineering/political considerations, production cost was a large consideration, as the USSR planned to use the AK as a way to destabilize target governments in Africa, south Asia, south America and southeast Asia for a very low cost of outfitting “fraternal socialist allies.” The original design of the Type 1 was a formed/riveted/spot-welded receiver, with a screwed-in barrel. The sheet metal stub that provided a mounting point for the bakelite-type plastic pistol grip handle was spot-welded together and riveted to the bottom of the receiver.
But the Russian sheet metal process at the first production factories wasn’t able to hold dimension tolerance, and as a result, the rejection rate on the Type 1 rifles was unacceptably high. After the first three years (1949 to 1951) of production of the Type 1 AK-47, then they went to a milled receiver.
“Type 2” receiver was made from a solid drop-forged block of steel that was then milled, at significantly increased expense. The easiest way (IMO) to ID a Type 2 vs. a Type 3 is the lightening scalloping cut at the front/bottom of the receiver. On the Type 2, the cut is parallel to the top of the receiver, and on the Type 3, the lightening cut was parallel to the bottom of the receiver. Production of the Type 2 commenced in 1952 and continued to 1957. The Type 2 increased the weight of the unloaded rifle to over 10 pounds.
The Type 3 receiver, also milled, started in 1955. This was the most common milled receiver variant of the AK-47, and it was produced until 1959. The weight was reduced a bit.
The AKM, also called internally the “Type 4,” was a modernized stamped sheet metal receiver, with additional rivets, spot welds and cross-rivets for stiffening the receiver while reducing the weight, and then additional cost-reduction features to make it cheaper to produce. An example of the cost reduction: the barrel was push-fit and pinned in place. This is the most widely produced AK from Russia/USSR, and it started production in 1959.
But the bottom line is this: The original, 1948-production AK-47, was a stamped sheet metal receiver rifle. It was designed to be a stamped sheet metal receiver rifle.
Accuracy: I’ve rarely seen any imported combloc that would group tighter than 4″ at 100 yards with comblock ammo. WIth handloads, US-made bullets, and especially US-made rifles/barrels, you can improve on this. For comparison, typical accuracy of US-made weapons since the 1903 Springfield has been about 2″ at 100 yards. AR’s tend to group about 2″, before we start doing civilian mods like free floating the barrel. Issues that rob the AK of accuracy/precision: Chrome bore lining (whereas you can get stainless barrels in the AR platform), a short sight radius, lack of a free-floating barrel, and ammo quality.
4″ at 100 yards isn’t unacceptable, given the design goals of the AK-47 program.. The AK-47 was designed to be a combat rifle inside 300 meters. The Russians were not seeking a rifle to serve long-range combat marksmanship. Again, they were seeking to outfit their “fraternal socialist allies” – many of them illiterate gimme-dat third world thugs. The AK-47 recognized that the issue of reliability was a higher need than long-range tight groups. And a 4″ group becomes a 12″ group at 300 yards, and that’s “minute of man” and sufficient for someone using an AK on semi-auto to hit or wound someone at 300 yards.
The AK-47 is the first infantry weapon made in numbers that exceed the Mauser 98. The Mauser 98 pattern bolt action rifle was produced in huge numbers between Germany, satellite nations during WWII and licensee nations before/after WWII. Not all the parts are interchangeable between these 98-pattern rifles To me, the most amazing thing about the AK design (and especially the AKM/Type 4) is how interchangeable parts are between various different production sources of AK parts. This sets the AK/AKM apart from many other single-source guns that are then licensed to other manufactures.
I don’t hold myself to be an expert on the ComBlock weapons. I don’t work on them much (usually only for friends as a favor) because most ComBlock gun owners don’t want to put much money into their guns, and they won’t tolerate my hourly rate on their guns. That’s fine, the AK/AKM was made for third world sensibilities and crude repair facilities.
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“Bobsuruncle pulled the wrong lever with that comment”
“You don’t tug on Superman’s cape,
you don’t spit in the wind,
You don’t pull the mask off the old Lone Ranger,
and you don’t tell Dyspeptic he doesn’t know guns…”
*snicker* 😉
“You must not be a smith, a true ak was milled.”
One sentence, two dependent clauses, and a whole bucket of wrong.
The reason I got one was because two of my uncles- both vietnam veterans- respected the hell out of it, and I wanted to know what the big deal was.
I don’t have a problem with Hi-Point or the AK. I own both.
“Cheap and good enough” has a lot of selling points provided the item does what you want/need it to do. As long as you don’t have unreasonable expectations of that item, I don’t see the problem.
1000,000 (a thousand, thousand) rounds! MAN, that is a lot!!! My math says that’s $200,000 dollars give or take.
Whew! That’s a lot of money through a $160 gun. I need to talk to your investment advisor, (and possibly your hand surgeon).
This review is exactly what Hi Point designs their guns for: Inexpensive, reliable, accurate.
To the gun snobs out there, get a grip. There is a place in the market for Hi Points, if you don’t like them, fine, don’t buy them but there isn’t any reason to shit-talk these guns, none whatsoever. Hi Point makes firearms that work and affordable prices. What in the world is wrong with that? The answer is “Nothing”.
It beats the fuck out of harsh language. I’ve been so poor in the past that a Raven .25acp was all I could afford. And I bought it.
You can overcome being poor. I did. But you have to live long enough to overcome it. And that may require a gun.
“You can overcome being poor. I did. But you have to live long enough to overcome it.”
Indeed. And let’s be really honest here for a moment: As much as the Left complains that the Right doesn’t care about poor people in reality, when you get right down to it, the Leftist philosophy is that there are no poor people because effectively in modern Leftist philosophy the poor are not people.
If the leftover Left does not consider poor people to be people, what do they consider them to be? Pawns?
On the other hand, we have to convince them that we don’t want to use them as pawns in this power game. They count, as much as individuals as in groups, but they don’t believe we feel that way. So many are so ignorant – even when they have what amounts to a good education!
I have personal experience with this. For a time, I had a black woman, about 40 years old, sleeping on my couch. Let’s just say that I am glad that it went no further and that I was able to get her out after about six months.
There were some very strange thoughts in her head. She felt that Obama should be able to do whatever he wanted to do.
Whatever. The People Had Voted For Him.
She felt that, when President-elect Trump encountered protesters who were against his being president, that he should resign.
It Was What The People Wanted.
Weird stuff.
For a 160 dollars you get a piece that will throw lead just as well as that 900 dollar gun when you pull the trigger. What’s not to like.
I think if I really needed a $150 handgun I’d try to save up an extra $60 and pick up a Taurus G2, or just find a used one. Light, compact and they hold 12 rounds. I think the Hi-Point market is made up more of people who celebrate it’s cheapness and clunkiness.
Amen gov. Even if Dan yells at me😄I know TTAG has paid advertising. And I’d pickup a HP 10mm carbine… believe me I ain’t rich!
I’ve examined several of HP’s products. I’m impressed with their carbines, which would make excellent “truck guns” for bang-around-the-range purposes.
Their pistols are big and ugly looking because the alloy they use in their casting is Zamak-3, which isn’t as dense as steel. They’re seeking to make the slide massive enough to make their straight blow-back actions function correctly. When you’re dealing with a .22LR to a .380, a straight blowback action can be made svelte and elegant, even with Zamak-3. But when you get to higher pressure or higher recoil rounds like a 9×19, .40 or .45 ACP, now we need some real mass. If the slide were made out of steel, it wouldn’t look like an engine block on a pistol grip, but the alloy they’re using isn’t dense enough to make it svelte.
They work. They’re inexpensive. Their warranty is no-BS.
People without much money have a right to keep and bear arms just as much as the guy who can buy a Purdey side-by-side. The HP pistols are leaps and bounds better products than the old “ring of fire” pieces of crap (which were also mostly die cast products).
Just curious, how much would it add to the cost for HP to make a nice svelte carbon steel slide?
It would depend on how they made it.
They could machine a slide, or they could cast it, the way Ruger does. Even then, the steel slide would need machining to clean up the surface.
What people don’t realize about alloys like Zamak-3 is how well they cast details. I mean, the alloy, when molten, can run easily into bizarre and intricate mold details – and it will hit sizes very closely, and have a very smooth finish when released from the mold. It takes finishing very well. It has mechanical strength properties that are better than many aluminum alloys, and even better than some cast irons.
This is why it is a favored alloy for die cast car parts and manufacturing high-volume metal parts not needing the strength or engineered (eg, heat-treatment) properties of steel.
When you really examine a gun – the only parts that really need to be steel are the barrel, perhaps the firing pin and the springs. You could make a gun out of many other materials other than steel. If we’re looking to keep production costs down, we want a material like Zamak-3 (or one of the other Zamak zinc/aluminum/magnesium alloys – there is a family of Zamak alloys). Those reasons are that they cast especially well, they have good strength, they’re inexpensive, they melt at a relatively low temperature (which means that you can heat a steel mold to 700 to 800F and thereby allow the Zamak to flow into very small detail spots in the mold), etc.
Casting from steel could certainly be done, but you’re not going to get there at the price that HP is selling these guns… Want a cast pistol, or a pistol made with steel castings? Go look at Rugers. Seriously. Ruger wrote the book on steel/stainless casting of gun parts. Go look up Pine Tree Castings, Ruger’s casting subsidiary. They have a vast amount of experience casting gun parts from steel and stainless steel – because that is how Ruger has kept the cost of their guns down for decades.
I’ll take that to mean it would run up into the Security 9 price range.
I’m a Ruger fan-boy and am aware of the Pine Tree Castings division. I believe that they cast quite a few parts for other firearms manufacturers as well. If anyone’s curious, https://beta.ruger.com/casting/PDF/PineTreeCastings.pdf
Yeet G1 tells me there is more to come; perhaps a Yeet G2, G3, G4 or G5! Woohoo can’t wait!
Yeet! I coulda had a G8!!
CA has effectively removed inexpensive handguns by slowing dwindling down our “Roster of Safe Handguns” – the Hi-Point C9 is still grandfathered on that list.
I have had good experiences with Hi-Point and they stand behind their products. Their carbines are awesome, have run two of them through a mess and they worked just as they should.
Were DG?!? They have cases of Jimenez Arms & Cobra “guns” at Westforth Guns( my favorite gunshop) in Gary,Indiana. And they’ll tell you not to buy them! But homie from Gary goes by price even if a superior Taurus or a Ruger gen 1 LCP is only a few bucks more.Or even that yeet cannon😄
Yea – don’t buy those “ring of fire” die cast guns from California, unless you’re getting them for $50 to $75, and you’ll get $150 for it at a “gun buyback” event. They’ve always been horrible pieces, going back decades.
I believe Jimenez Arms formerly known as “JA” moved to Nevada what with the Commiefornia penchant for making everything illegal…they now have “Jimenez Arms” emblazoned in large caps on their gats😄
In the early 80s, distributor pricing on those guns was 35 bucks each…
I love my HiPoint shark nose 9mm carbine. It is accurate and fast. That being said the looks are going to cause bad guys to puke!
I seems to me that if we ever have the need to drop pistols to resistance fighters in occupied territory, then Hi Points could be the new “Liberator” pistols of the 21st century.
I dont knock HiPoints. If someone needs a gun and this is what they can afford…..get you some.
I have shot several and they all shot pretty well. They aren’t pretty, but neither is a Glock or especially that Spingfield in the EDC post.
I considered buying one for a training gun as that heavy-assed slide amplifies the recoil. You feel every cycle in slow motion as that chunk of steel does its business. If you work to control the recoil (40 is best) then moving to a normal gun feels like shooting a lazer beam.
God Bless HiPoint. It’s a gun for people on a budget. I dont get the Yeet Canon crap but then again, I’m old.
As DG mentioned above, it’s chunk of zinc alloy, not steel. That’s how they are able to make them so cheap.
as far as the mag safety is concerned, it’s a 2 minute fix… remove the right grip panel and there’s a flat leafspring running down the frame. it falls right out, put the grip back on and no more mag safety..
Is there any record of a Hi Point ever failing to function when it was actually used in a defensive situation?
I have heard of a few where the Hi Point was successfully deployed. That bear wishes that Hi Points didn’t work.
I believe that fellow was using a .45 acp version of the gun.
person getting shot could care less whether it was a Sig or a Hi-point that capped them!
If you did have too use it for self defense {Hi-Point} cops get it instead of the super duper pooper scooper setting in the gun safe at home!
If cheap and ugly works use it!
wll I haven’t used this gun in real life, but it works awesome in CSGO :))
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I own two C-9’so and a 380 from hipoint. I also own two of the 9mm carbines. The carbines are fun to shoot and great for home security. The C-9’s are good reliable back up pistols. My main pistol is a compact 9mm Taurus. When the crap hits the fan, I won’t care which one I have in my hand the Taurus or the Hipoint, both will do the job.
Not my cup of tea and I would never recommend one to someone that could afford to spend another $80 or so on a pistol as there are far better options including the S&W Shield. If $160 is the absolute most someone can afford to spend on a pistol for self defense I am glad that there are options that work reasonably well.
This Gadsden Flag schmuck sounds like a real POS. Overbearing, arrogant, blustery, over-compensatory.
Yep, definitely a former pig.
Can’t wait for your EOW.
#ACAB #FTP
“Brick on a Stick”. For the Price Point vs what it delivers its a FIVE Star handgun. The price buy you reliability and basic functions. At original prices when they first came out or now at $160(+-), it delivers. Any other Mfg offer a reliable new semi auto 9mm for that price? Nope, and that why it sells. You can throw more money down and get something more refined and pleasing to the eye if you want.
Even though it’s a budget friendly handgun, we didn’t get the usual fit/finish comments nor Slide material (pot metal) and manufacturing process (die cast). Also absent is the tool requirement for fiels strip. It has a Life time warranty.
Do I own a Hi Point? No. If I was financially challenged or needed something that could be banged around in a tool/tackle box or truck: sure. Need to Prepper Stock up on bargain priced handguns, yep.
But the fun thing is this, at that time, poor boy, bought a reliable, accurate enough, anvil reliable .40 cal carbine for $200.00.
The Hi Point Company makes guns that work like they are supposed to. They kill the correct person. As far as I know they have never been recalled. Remington, Sig Sauer, Taurus, Glock, and others have all had recalls. Some of their guns have killed their owners. And the other companies have much more money to spend on quality control than Hi Point.
The only way the 2A survives is when every american can afford to get a gun and the bullets for it. The 21st Century technology and manufacturing methods we have today are making good guns really inexpensive. But if you want to send $800 or more for a gun you have the freedom to do so.
At least for now.
The Ultimate Hi-Point Yeet Cannon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zfMrjFI3-k&t=89s
Beats the hell out of a Jennings/Lorcin/Bryco etc.
As much as I love those shitty throwaway guns for collecting/meme purposes, I’d take a hipoint over them any day.
So I bought a Yeet Cannon and went to the range with my SCCY, Taurus and Yeet. The Yeet- brand new out of box had several misfeeds. It drove me insane. However, I’m going to give it another 100 rounds to see if it clears up.
I do like the chunkiness of it and the recoil is not as bad as my SCCY. But, compared to my Taurus I have to say hands down I love my Taurus.
Can someone please tell me the best ammunition for the Yeet? I used Magtech 9mm 115gr seems the gun doesn’t like it much. I love the price and my next trip to the range will determine if I keep or sell it.
If you would have had affordability/cost in your evaluation the gun would be 4 stars
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