By Jeremy S.
U.S. Fire Arms (USFA) is best known for very high-quality single action revolvers. But the gunmaker has branched out and built a new brand: ZiPFactory. Their first new product is the ZiP .22LR pistol. USFA says ZiP is the code for The Future of Fun™ and claims that “The Future is Now™.” Well, I’ve seen the future and the future is . . . um . . . well it needs some work . . .
To paraphrase Wallace, the latter day ZiP gun is like no cheese I’ve ever tasted. With the exception of some stainless bolt heads on the left side and just a glint of barrel inside the ejection port on the right, it’s got more black plastic than an obese rubber fetishist. And then there’s the design; most folks seeing it for the first time don’t even know where to begin. How to hold it? Where’s the trigger? What are all of those things on the front? Is that the front?
The bolt (ZiP calls it the “recoil body”) is entirely inside of the frame. Your shooting hand goes right behind the bolt on the back of the gun. The bore axis is aligned near the top of your palm. Its position in your hand is lower than on any pistol with a standard slide-on-frame design, not a million miles away from the Chiappa Rhino. While muzzle flip is never really a problem with a .22, it’s non-existent with the ZiP.
As the plastic bolt is completely internal, the ZiP has an external charging capacity. Instead of notching the frame for a bolt-mounted charging handle like you might see on a 10/22 or other semi-auto rifle, ZiPFactory decided to put two charging rods out front, right over the muzzle. Yes. Right over the muzzle.
The longer of the two rods – the left one (although the user can swap them from side-to-side) – is the “ZiP LOAD” rod. You simply put your finger out there on the front of it—-right above the muzzle– and push it into the frame. That moves the bolt back behind the first round in the magazine and then feeds it into the chamber when you snap your finger off the rod.
The shorter of the two rods is the “ZiP RESTRIKE” rod. Pushing it until it’s flush with the frame is supposed to reset the striker but not move the bolt back far enough to strip the next round out of the mag. This is theoretically handy if you have a bum primer or some sort of other failure to fire requiring you to reset the striker with a round in the chamber. On my gun, though, it didn’t work. My striker refused to reset until the bolt was back far enough that it always stripped the next round out and caused a double feed.
Keep in mind that resetting the striker with a live round in the chamber means putting your fingers/hands right at the muzzle (hopefully it wasn’t just a hangfire!). Clearing jams requires the same digit-endangerment. There is no provision for locking the bolt back.
The ZiP is actually comfortable enough to hold. The contours molded into the sides of the frame give right-handed shooters places to rest their thumbs, indexed index fingers, etc. It will work for lefties but not so much. That said, the grip angle is exactly vertical, and if you think a Block is glocky, you clearly haven’t held a ZiP yet.
The little loop for your middle finger is critical for achieving a solid grip on the gun when you aren’t pulling the extremely heavy trigger. I wasn’t able to measure it, but I reckon it’s over 12 lbs. It’s ‘stagey’ but fairly smooth. The break is pretty clean and the reset can be both heard and felt.
The factory sights are as basic as sights get: black plastic squares front and rear with no dots. They work just fine and accuracy with them was very good, despite the front sight being harder to find than an honest man at a gun control convention. Painting the front sight white would be a quick, cheap upgrade.
Modularity and customization are areas where this gun shines. Slide the top rail off the frame and you can replace it with a handful of accessory rails from ZiPFactory, including the ZiPPIC Rail (1913 Picatinny rail), ZiPNite Rail (allows for the installation of Glock-compatible sights), and ZiPSBR Rail (allows the attachment of your ZiP to another gun, which, if it’s a rifle, turns your ZiP™ into an SBR. If it’s a pistol, it turns your pistol into an AOW — NFA rules and fees apply).
And if that isn’t enough play value, there’s the BattleZiP Survival SBR Stock (a nifty full rifle stock), a threaded barrel (for a suppressor or other 1/2×28 muzzle accessory) and some future plans that cannot yet be mentioned (see “Customize This” rating for a hint).
Unfortunately, the funky sci-fi looks and dangerous thrills from putting your hands in front of the business end of the ZiP gun didn’t make up for a generally poor showing at the range. Even after installing the Upgrade Kit Version 1.0.1, which was released due to some excessively tight tolerances in early guns, she just wouldn’t run reliably.
The ZiP ships with two sets of recoil springs: stiff for high-test loads and light for target/bulk loads (factory-installed default). You can “tune” your action to your ammunition’s power level. Due to the low mass of the reciprocating parts, the bolt speed is extremely high and the spring rates are particularly important. The design leaves no room for bolt overtravel (which normally adds some delay to a semi-auto action).
The ZiP™ was consistently plagued with failures to feed. The bolt is often moving forwards before the magazine can lift the next round up into place. Even when it does feed, the bolt would often come forward so quickly that the ejecting empty brass was caught before it could escape the gun. These failures created some unique jams with empty brass smashed up somewhere in the ejection port and a new round partially fed into the chamber.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxkI9HdxzbE
Due to the bolt speed, the ZiP only [mostly] works with the BX-1, 10-round mags. The BX-25’s don’t feed subsequent rounds quickly enough. ZiPFactory is supposed to release another Upgrade Kit for the BX-25 soon; essentially stronger springs. Most other aftermarket magazines don’t have quite the correct feed lip geometry and/or share the BX-25’s feed rate problem.
After the Upgrade Kit, some polishing, some graphite lube, extremely careful assembly, a handful of ammo brands to test and some encouraging words, I had the ZiP running better. It actually made it through a couple of BX-1 10-round magazines in a row without a jam. That was, however, not the norm. I spent more time during my range session clearing jams than shooting. On average, it would jam at least once per magazine, and this was a major improvement from pre-upgrade.
On the plus side, the ZiP gun’s very accurate. The 5.25” barrel does its job with all ammo brands tested. The extremely heavy trigger does the ZiP™ no favors, but my group sizes were excellent.
This pistol has a lot of potential. If ZiPFactory can work out the kinks and get it to run, they’ll have a winner on their hands. The gun is unique in the extreme, accurate, fun-to-shoot (when it’s running), totally dangerous in the best of cases, extremely dangerous when it jams, modular and customizable as hell. And it’s inexpensive! Plus, it uses the Ruger 10/22 mags you already have.
I’d really like to see this thing work, and I’m interested to see what other fun firearms ZiPFactory produces in the future. A little bird tells me that there’s a pistol-caliber carbine in the works.
SPECIFICATIONS:
Caliber: .22 Long Rifle
Frame: Polymer
Sights: Black plastic, no dots.
Accessory options: picatinny rail, Glock sight adapter, SBR adapter, etc etc.
Barrel Length: 5.25 inches
Length (muzzle to back of frame): 7.75 inches
Weight: 15.2 ounces unloaded, no magazine
Capacity: Accepts all Ruger 10/22 magazines. Functions [mostly] with BX-1’s.
MSRP: $199 with no magazine. $219 with a BX-1 included.
RATINGS (Out of Five Stars):
Style * * * * *
Like it or hate it, you’ve never seen anything like it. Its style is its own, and it gets five stars for that.
Ergonomics (firing) *
Form comes before function here. While it actually fits in the hand okay, it isn’t what you’d call comfortable. The grip angle is vertical and the placement of the charging rods is downright dangerous. The trigger is heavy enough that it causes some discomfort, removing 10-round mags is difficult, and clearing jams is a bear.
Reliability
No, I did not forget to rate this category. Maybe it will “break in” and improve.
Customize This * * * * *
Well deserving of five stars here, the ZiP can be customized with all sorts of upper rail attachments, threaded barrels, SBR stocks and other doo-dads on the way that I am not at liberty to mention (suffice it to say that only the right side of the frame’s “clamshell” is serialized, and ZiPFactory has future plans for things you can do by swapping out the left side).
OVERALL *
As is, it just doesn’t run reliably enough to be fun; too much time’s spent dealing with difficult-to-clear jams and it only sort of runs with Ruger factory BX-1 magazines. Safety and ergo nightmare, really.
New York is hurting. I’ve been seeing ads on tv inviting/welcoming new manufacturing business to NY with ZERO taxes for ten years. My first thought is always, ” yeah right, unless it’s arms manufacturing.” When one starts seeing ads of this nature it’s quite obvious a plea for help. From reports I read businesses and residents are leaving in record numbers.
This was actually reported some months ago. It was similar to the case with the Virginia Tech killer, who was also reported as a danger but nothing was done. Those who we pay to protect us, failed again.
California is among the most worrisome, given the outlandishness of some of their bills, although NJ makes you wonder too. Would the governor of CA act as a bit of a sanity check? Any chance that the Democrats in the legislature are so fond of their supermajority that they might try to be partially sane in order not to lose it in 2014?
Looking across the continent, Delaware is providing for some comic relief – http://www.delawareonline.com/article/20130403/NEWS02/130403015/Assault-weapons-bill-registration-requirement-withdrawn
Hopefully, this means that what’s politically possible there is not be as bad as NY, CT, or MD, but I don’t know much about Delaware, so time will tell.
Beretta – If you are planning your move, blue states in the link below should automatically be ruled out:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:ElectoralCollege2012.svg
Upgrade Kits? Not running with Ruger factory mags without another upgrade kit? Sounds dangerously like the “ship it, we’ll fix it with a patch at some point!” mentality that has been spreading through the computer games industry like herpes. Not sure about the rest of the software industry. Either way, it sounds like they are knowingly shipping a fundamentally flawed product when “upgrade kits” are popping up this quickly. It’s bad enough with software, but hardware? No. No. No. On top of the scary placement of the bolt… rod… thingies? No thank you.
I’m also trying to figure out the purpose of this firearm. Innovation is nice, but what it the point?
People in the computer games industry get herpes?
Hookers and blow, baby~
Convention booth babes are technically associated with the industry I guess.
If they’re lucky.
Fine. Ban fully automatic weapons and leave semi-automatic weapons alone.
He clearly doesn’t like white folks telling him what to do. That was hilarious.
It’s an interesting little thing, but I think I”ll wait for them to get the kinks worked out before I put any money down.
I already own a Beretta (damn glad, too), but this cements me buying from them a LOT more.
How hard would it really be to mold in a slot in the left side, and move the operating rod to a left side configuration. As it is, there’s no way I would buy this, it looks like the exact opposite of safety.
The style kind of reminds me of a Babylon 5 ‘PGP’
I really want a pistol that takes 10/22 mags. The tech-22 was junk I’m led to believe, the ruger Charger is too heavy to shoot offhand (maybe I could get a lighter barrel and stock but that’s extra money), and then there is this abomination. Why make a handgun without a hand grip?
Everybody should check out the x-22p, I don’t have one so I can’t tell you how it works but it looks good and it uses the 10/22 mags
So when the negligent law enforcement fails to follow up on the legally mandated alert from a shrink that a psychopath is likely going to commit mass murder, said psychopath will be left to murder with the same sum total of ammo partitioned into magazines differently?
Awesome job CO politicians! GFY!
My M&P Shield 9 changed how/when/where I carry a gun.
If you’re plan is to carry IWB .. and you’re not a 45acp/10mm caliber snob … you’d be foolish not to buy one.
I have a full-sized Beretta 92FS, a Glock 23, and a S&W Mod 36 snubby. All 3 are now designated as nightstand guns … or guns I might strap to my leg while out hog hunting, etc.
The Shield enables me to carry in any clothing choice I choose without the anxiety of printing or the necessity for an expensive gun belt. I wear mine in a Crossbreed Supertuck when wearing a belt … and in a Remora 6ART when wearing bathing suits, basketball shorts, sweatpants, etc. Either way the gun disappears and stays secure.
For me, I want a gun that I can take anywhere with me … something that can always be there … something that gives you no reason to take it off … and the Shield fits the bill.
For what its worth, my Shield 9 keeps up with the Glock 23 at distances under 20 ft … when you get out beyond that it simply cannot compete with the longer barreled handguns in terms of grouping size. However, at 50 ft you’re still hitting center mass … which is all you can really ask for. I personally love the trigger … its about 60% take-up and then a very predictable and crisp break.
Honestly, I don’t know why anyone wouldn’t want one of these … I’m looking into getting a second one.
What about piston guns like the Ruger SR556 that can’t use the accuwedge? I’ve been using dental floss around the posts, seems to snug it up… unacceptable?
Sounds like a personal problem, talk to the Padre
When ammo inventories and prices eventually go back to normal levels, $200 msrp; ok lets say $180 street price will buy the equivalent of nine bricks of 22LR or about 4,500LR rounds. I’d rather have that amount of ammo in my home storage.
Yeah OCD, me to! That crap really bothers me as well. Palmettoe State Armory has AeroPrecision make there uppers and lowers. I just received 10 Aero lower, and uppers. All are tight at the pivot pin extremely, and a little sloppy at the take down pin. Accuwedges do work, but who wants a snap in piece of plastic put in there 2k build?? Not I Captain! So I matched them up as best I could. Some don’t wobble at all, a few do. But in basic training, all are rifles rattled, crap my stock fell completly off in training!! Let me know what you come up with. Im going to buy more, and even some other brands, just to match up, even though I prefer same namupper andlower…OCD!!
+1 on issue M4s/M16s rattling. It was rare to be issued one that didn’t.
Not sure about the laws in other states, but here the psych has to issue an order of commitment before law enforcement gets involved. That’s unless the patient agrees to voluntary commitment. If that’s the case in this instance, the shrink would be the negligent party, not law enforcement.
This is what happens when Wall-E gets constipated.
After all the liberal anti-gun caterwauling about how too many toy guns look too real, now we see a company that’s doing its level best to make a real gun look like a toy. This is the creators of Doom, Duke Nuke ’em, and Halo trying to design a real gun. If you were a LEO, and you saw a kid with this ZiP, would you think it was a real gun?
Q: Do we really want or need guns that look like they came from, and were specifically designed for, a post apocalyptic world where life is one big FPS, Hell on Earth?
I use a small o-ring around the front post.
Little by little the constant scraping and whittling at our rights continues by this illegal regime. I am more than convinced that Mr. LaGuecia was told by BATF not to appeal the revocation or he would be charged as an accessory after the fact for the murders. It’s the only plausible explanation.
Please read my link, they had 20 guns they couldn’t account for. This moron deserves to lose his license.
It seems likely to me that ATF spokespuppet Deb Siefert declined specific comment to create an illusion of the Fed “doing something” in the wake of the Sandy Hook incident.
We are also talking about Journal News here- they don’t exactly have a stunning record of unbiased reporting. Couldn’t the reporter have asked a leading question to extract that quote and leverage the quote into making it look like the FFL is being punished for Sandy Hook?
They apparently were so incompetent at being an FFL that they never realized that dozens of rifles had been stolen from their inventory. They deserved to lose their license, although it had absolutely nothing to do with the Sandy Hook murders.
http://southwindsor.patch.com/groups/police-and-fire/p/police-south-windsor-man-stole-weapons-because-he-was5939a88dae
As a local, I can honestly say that pulling there FFL likely had little/nothing to do with Lanza. They had dozens of rifles stolen, including one days before there FFL was pulled.
Forgot to mention in the write-up, somehow, but the ZiP has no extractor at all. While it ‘extracts’ just fine, I actually think ejection would be more reliable if there were an extractor holding the case against the breech face up to the point where the ejector (which is a notch in the feed lip of the 10/22 magazine) kicks it out.
Some pin forces itself through the recoil block to kick the spent casing out. good luck finding a load that will kick the block back hard enough to eject properly. 18 loads and counting, 300 rounds and 5 range days in… Mine still won’t cycle more than 3 rounds of anything, with either sets of springs. I even read the reviews, and thought it could be figured out. If endlessly fiddling and constant disappointment interests you, you should pick one up
As I said May 26th, Mine works well with the 10 rd mags and Blazer ammo. Only problem I have now is finding the ammo to feed the Zip.
Hey Chris, that’s incorrect. That pin that sticks through the hole in the recoil body is the striker itself. It does stick through its channel when the recoil body is fully back in its travel, but the empty case has (in theory) already been kicked out at that point. The Ruger 10/22 has no ejector, and the ZiP continues this design by using the notches in the magazine feed lips as the ejector. That’s what those notches are there for, as designed by Ruger. So you could say it has an ejector just like the 10/22, it’s just not part of the gun, it’s part of the magazine. However, the 10/22 does have an extractor. Some of the ZiP’s ejection problems are almost certainly due to the case bouncing off the recoil body and not contacting the magazine notch in the exact correct attitude to kick out properly. Too much left to chance in this design.
As an update while I’m posting here and a bit of a response to Roger above, I sold the ZiP. However, before doing so and after writing the review I did keep trying to get it to work for a while longer. I used the CORRECT Blazer ammo, multiple factory mags, multiple upgrade kits, three barrels, every combo possible of the recoil springs, different lubes, etc etc etc and it never ran any better than in the video that’s up in the review. Forget it.
This has got to be one of the silliest firearms ideas I’ve seen in a long time, even if it they could get it to work reliably.
Mount it on a rifle (and pay $200 bucks)? Why? Their promotional vid on their site calls it a “battlefield advantage”… I nearly fell out of my seat laughing. Yes, when my rifle runs dry I can instantly switch to a .22LR pistol… Come on…
Pay $200 to make it a rifle? Again, why? For Zip+SBR fees+stock I could get a .22LR rifle AND pistol, and they’d actually be reliable!
Use it as a pistol? Maybe if it worked, but personally I’d prefer a conventional design.
The NYT can FOAD. Along with their staff and writers.
Im sick of Maryland. They found new ways to rape us, the taxpayers with a huge jump in the gas tax. they tax everything that moves and if it doesnt move they kick it and THEN tax it. Welcome to the Democrat run utopia. Were everyone is miserable. Maryland. The little california. Good luck Beretta. I dont blame you a bit and wish you well in a state not run by these tax and spend retards.
Any time Lefties talk about changing the Second Amendment, they acknowledge that it prohibits any form of gun control or registration.
Changing the Constitution would ultimately require 38 states to ratify any change. I think we can always come come up with 12 states to counter this.
Can’t wait to see blue helmet types knock on the door of some rural farmhouse deep in the mountains asking for weapons to be turned over.
That will make for a great movie.
two comments.
Heller did not decide that the right to bear arms is an individual right by 5-4. The court was unanimous it declaring it an individual right. There are no “collective rights” in the bill of rights. All rights accrue to individuals (the people) or entities (the states). The four dissenters held that you don’t right to self defense with a gun.
Although the good Professor is being disingenious he is taking the correct approach. If the anti-Second Amendment crowd wants to give the government the authority to ban citizens from owning guns the proper way is through a constitutional amendment. I say go for it gun grabbers and grab the gusto!
Bloomberg and his gang have walloped Williamsburg-time to ring Tel Aviv. OY…………
As I understand it many American Jews (from NY) migrated Israeli in the last century. Given the wacko politics of many in the US bound to be some nuts in the migrants. Perhaps the islamists in the area can root these out.
+1 on AccuWedge!
My RRA had a very slight wobble and it drove me a little nuts too. I didn’t what I could do, but then saw an endorsement from the Fulton Armory guy (who knows just a bit about what he’s doing). So I cut down an Accuwedge to fit nicely, but not so tight that I can’t pop out the pin. Oh what a difference. Problem solved for under $5. Now the thing is tighter than a bee’s butt!
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I have not had a drag in for many years. The most severe thing relating to giving up may be the 1st 1 to 2 weeks. Luckily this stuff didnt last long and stuff got easier day-to-day thanks to the e-cigarettes. Please dont surrender. Please keep going with it and you can realize success once and for all.
the MPA master piece arms MPA22T is a piece of shit also
What does a MPA have yo do with a ZIP? If you call the MPA a brown ,stinkey turd you handle. The Zip is not…
I understand that USFA has ceased production of all but this ZiP22 oddity, which is a shame. I tried every variety of .22 LR ammo in this gun, from Eley target to MiniMags, CCI Blazer, Winchester M22s, you name it. Reliable function is just not in this beast. It has no extractor, and needs one desperately. It has the ergonomics of a brick, the trigger pull of a caulking gun and no accuracy to speak of. I don’t know what the designers were thinking. If this is “The Future of Fun,” I want to die right now!
USFA stopped SAA production a couple years ago.
As I said my ZIP works Mine went bact to USFA,
I use the recommended Blazer as i said and it works with the 10rd mage. Only problem I have now is finding more Blazer .22’s. Just aint out there at reasonable price
It has a place in my unique guns colection. No regrets and i am glad i have it.
What about holster options for this… thing??? I don’t think that leather snap-side/thumb-break would be very appropriate for it!
Todd do you have a ZIP. This is a unusual fun gun. I would not want to carry a 22 as a concealed carry gun. I see no reason for a holster.Go to USFA ZIP web page.
No Roger, I do not own one as of yet. I’ve been teetering on to get it or not and upon reading reviews I stumbled here. The thought about a holster isn’t to conceal it by any means. By the looks and feel of it, I think it would be easier to shove a brick down my pants! However, to carry it when not directly firing it or if one chooses to use it for transition drills, you /they WOULD need some sort of holster. I was briefly on their site but, must have missed what you are trying to direct me towards. I didn’t see anything about holstering.
Very Important. If you do buy one make sure it is of current production sr. # as it will than have the up dates. (web site has serial nrs) They go for around $200 to $250.
As for a holster made for it . I doubt there is one.you could have one made if you wanted to carry it. As a collector i don’t have a holster for all the guns i own. Just what i carry.
The Zip I just put in a pistol carrier or range bag. It is just a fun toy.
I was in the US Army however never heard of transition drills. Sorry.
I gave you their web site to ask USAF if there is a holster for it.
Well, I guess that it’s unfortunate that you didn’t get that training while you were in the Army. It is simply put switching between your long rifle and your hand gun.
Were you trained in the military Todd? When I was in the 1970’s we used the M16 as the prime weapons. As an officer i did carry a 45 however we never had any dumb ass transition drills.
Roger, I’m sorry that you feel that way and so strongly about it. I also hope that you have not misread anything I have asked on this site which was AGAIN, if anyone knew of any holsters for it. That in itself was a tongue in cheek question, not a personal attack on you. And yes, I have and do serve my country. Thank you for your service.
Todd, Sorry about being so defensive.
Roger
Todd and Roger,
I bought one of these a couple weeks back and haven’t had the chance to shoot it yet. The answer to the holster question is the optional belt clip. It’s like $20 and screws in on the left side of the gun. Thank you both for your service.
–Steve
Oh yeah Doug, this is so much better than the USFA Single Action Revolvers you were building.
The American in .243 is going to be my new hunting rifle. I like the way it feels and it’s not overweight. It’s a mass produced meat rifle and I’m okay with that.
Well, not only are suppressors illegal in the good ol commonwealth, so are threaded barrels lol ! Be careful out there!
This is what happens when you teach people how to use Solidworks or similar parasolid design program before they have proper design experience, understanding of ergonomics and general gun smithing experience etc….It probably looked great in the program, all clever and compact aaand totally unsafe, unreliable and unergonomic in real life. Guns tend to evolve at relatively slow pace…this gun is perfect example of why that is.
A little history of guns goes a long way. 1944 to 1946 most Bronx gangsmade their own home made guns. yep a lot of noise but many guns back fired into their faces, hands, eyes, were destroyed. my friend and I were at a toy store and right before us we saw was the real zip gun that we converted with a bored barrel made or steel.
we made seven real zip guns that were the enforcers of our neighborhood in the South Bronx. Just a little history of the past….no one was hurt but the gangs new what we had. The police reacted real quick about the rumors and within a week New York City had taken them of the market.
So random thought if u put under the barrel of your rifle…. how do you charge /reset it? it may be me but seems like you get to pick the caliber of hole to go through gour hand if you were to actuly mount this thing…
Mel Brooks has found his guns for Spaceballs II.
Wished I had read this before I bought. Bought this paperweight on an impulse and have regretted it ever since. I have had this jam everyother round attempt at a gun for almost a year and have yet to get 100 rounds thru it. My $170.00 great deal for a fun gun has turned into $400 waste of time. I will say that if you are able to find Eley target ammo for $12~20 a box the thing shoots well and does not Jam a brand new BX-10. anything other than that forget it. Since everytime it jams it cuts the bullet head off, my friends have dubbed it ” The Bullet Cutter”. For anyone who is like me and thinks the reviews on the internet are a small group of people you can never make happy. This gun will change your mind. I am telling you it is the WORST attempt at a product EVER slapped together. Tell your Mom , tell your Dad, tell all your friends the best protection this gun could ever provide lies in the fact it is heavy enough to throw at your attacker. BTW this is the 3rd gun I have had. Zip has already replaced the gun twice and has been assuring me for the last 4 months the ZX_30 mag will solve all my problems for just $49.95, although after calling BS they did say 4 months ago they would send me one for free. I will let you know when it shows up.
For this, USFA stopped making real guns?
Favorite quote; “..and if you think a Block is glocky…” 🙂 Made me smile. Also, great revue. Hope the Zip makes it.
I think it’s a cool concept and hope they work all the bugs out. I like the fact that it uses Ruger 10/22 mags since I own 3 10/22’s. I bought a Tec 22 about 15 years ago and when I first got it, it wouldn’t feed and kept jamming. I had to switch to a Ramline mag and carry a cleaning kit with me and clean it after every 100 rounds or so until I got it broke in. Now it works fine and will shoot all my clips. It’s cool to have a rifle and pistol that shoot the same clips. Especially 2 25 round banana clipped together. 50 rounds on a single point sling around your neck/shoulder = FUN!
tue zip gun is the sorryest gun i have ever owned!!!!
John, you don’t understand. The Zip22 is not intended to be a functioning firearm. It is a conversation piece, designed to provoke amusing banter among gun enthusiasts. It’s the grown-up equivalent of the joke shop rubber snake or plastic dog turd you had as a kid.
Oh man did I screw up!!! I picked one of these up at a gun show before reading the reviews. Sad day for me friends. This ZipZiltch is a P.O.S. and every bit as bad, if not worse than what this reviewer (Jeremy S.) described. Anyone want to buy it from me? Please, It comes with an acre of ocean front property in Arizona. If you’ll buy that, I’ll throw the golden gate in free!!!
Zip is the future of fun.. because at some point in the very distant future, you might be able to have fun with it.. after you install a kit and do a f*in rain dance.
It’s interesting and/or ironic that they chose to call it a “zip gun”, seeing as how zip guns are shoddily-built, dangerous, unreliable homemade contraptions that some would call a firearm. Almost makes one wonder if the whole thing wasn’t just a big hustle to squeeze money out of people foolish enough to buy one because it ‘looked pretty cool”, and the company named it what it did as a way of laughing at the poor suckers while they were on the way to the bank.