Dr. No was the first James Bond movie but the sixth book. In it Bond (James Bond) begrudgingly exchanges his .25 ACP Beretta for a Walther PPK chambered in the much more powerful .32 ACP, described as having “delivery like a brick through a plate glass window.” [Click here for the clip.] The PPK was available in .380 as well, but that wasn’t a popular or well-known caliber in Europe. Although the Mossad are still partial to .22 for close range wet work, one assumes most people would buy a pistol chambered in the relatively small caliber for newbie instruction, target shooting, and plinking fun. Walther’s PPK/S .22 allows you to do this with 007 style . . .
New for 2013, the Walther PPK/S in .22 long rifle is very much like the centerfire PPK in almost every way, from controls to weight and size to machining, fit, and finish. With millions of casual 007 fans out there, I must say that I think it was a great idea to offer the PPK in this chambering, which makes the pistol and the shooting more affordable and likely more fun. It’s certainly better for introducing new shooters to the sport, as recoil from a straight blowback .380 can be pretty stout.
In The Box
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TucJnvt3XGk
The /S version was created by Walther to meet the new ‘sporting purposes’ importation requirement under the 1968 Gun Control Act. ‘S’ stands for Sport, and the frame is taller – i.e., the grip is longer – than the standard PPK. That actually makes the pistol a bit more pleasant for target shooting and plinking, as your otherwise-dangling pinky has a home. Probably a good choice for the .22 version, which I’d assume won’t be a popular CCW option where the extra size or weight would be less desirable.
In the black plastic Walther case, along with the PPK/S, is a 10-round magazine, a gun lock, an owner’s manual, warranty card, an NSSF safety pamphlet and a ziplock baggie with some parts and tools in it. Included are two replacement front sights – one taller and one shorter than the sight installed on the gun – for adjusting point of impact for elevation, a thin punch for pushing out the pin in the front sight, an Allen wrench for adjusting the rear sight for windage, and a wrench for removing the barrel nut. All in all pretty good kit, although I wouldn’t mind a second magazine. They’re available online for around $28.
Although it has been quite a while since I’ve handled a centerfire PPK, it’s my understanding that the controls on the /S are identical. The magazine release is a thumb button high on the left side of the frame behind the top of the trigger guard. The slide-mounted safety flips up for ‘fire’ and down for ‘safe.’ That’s the opposite of most guns with frame-mounted safeties, but is the norm for guns with slide-mounted safeties – neither the location nor the operation is something I’m used to.
The safety is also a decocker, and pushing down on it safely drops the hammer. Unlike a lot of pistols, the slide can be racked with the safety engaged. Doing so automatically lowers the hammer as the slide comes forwards. Oddly enough, upon doing this or upon decocking, the trigger remains in the more rearward, single action ‘staged’ location even though the hammer is now down, and then the trigger springs forwards to its double action position as you flip the safety up to ‘fire.’ Some complicated German lockwork must be going on inside there.
The slide locks back on empty, but there’s no external slide lock/release control. You’ll have to insert an empty magazine if you want to lock the slide back. To release the slide, either eject the magazine and then pull back and guide the slide forwards, or insert a full magazine and slingshot it (which will chamber a round, of course).
Fit and finish on my nickel-plated version is quite good, with my only nitpick being the font and/or sharpness of the roll marks on the slide. It isn’t the same as on the centerfire version here. Slide-to-frame fitment is decent, machining and apparent parts quality (hammer, sights, safety, trigger, etc) are all very good, especially for a .22. Lots of metal, and very little plastic other than the grip panels. It feels like a real pistol, rather than like a reduced size, reduced quality, more plastic, lighter weight .22 version of a real pistol, of which plenty options exist.
With that said, I don’t know what the slide or frame are actually made of except that I’m fairly certain it isn’t steel due in part to the impression I get just from feeling and tapping it and from the fact that it doesn’t attract a magnet (and I don’t believe it to be stainless steel). The breech block insert appears to be steel, as do most of the small parts and controls mentioned above. No further conjecture from me and I have not heard of any durability issues, but I bring it up due to some folks’ concern over zinc alloys and “pot metal” slides cracking in some .22 pistols. So far so good here, but I only have just under 300 rounds through my example at this point – mainly due to trying to conserve my dwindling .22 reserves.
Field stripping is accomplished just like Bond’s PPK. Pull down on the hinged trigger guard, pull the slide all the way to the back and lift it up at the rear, then guide it off the front of the frame. The recoil spring uses the fixed barrel as a guide rod. That’s it! Field stripped.
At the front of the barrel, a nut can be unscrewed in order to remove the barrel from the frame. However, a more common reason to remove that nut would be to install a thread adaptor. For instance, to effectively extend the barrel out the front of the slide and provide 1/2×28 threads for mounting some sort of muzzle accessory like a compensator, fake suppressor for the easy secret agent look, or real suppressor to more fully satisfy your inner Bond. Thread adapters for Walther’s P22 fit the PPK/S just right! I just picked up a Tactical Innovations one at my local gun store where I then shot the video below, but these guys also have some cool offerings.
http://youtu.be/CvGy5KYn5XM
On The Range
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzt3WSR0W50
In the video above, you’ll see that it had a few hiccups right off the bat. My PPK/S apparently wanted a little bit of a break-in period and also benefitted from some lube – it came pretty darn clean of anything from the factory. You can actually see it getting better and better during that first range outing, and a couple hundred rounds later it cycles more reliably than it did then. That said, it still definitely prefers more powerful ammo (100% reliability so far) to weaker bulk box stuff (still has some failures to eject or to fully cycle the slide far enough back). With a suppressor, it ran the Winchester bulk with near perfect reliability whereas it would still suffer about one stoppage per mag without the can. I believe that a lighter mainspring (hammer spring) would also cure it of its dislike for weaker ammo while still providing solid primer strikes.
Now, some of it was my fault. Or, if I really felt like it, I suppose I could try to blame it on the design of the gun, but it was actually more of a training issue. You see, the slide is quite tall and has ‘skirts’ that cover the sides of the frame all the way down to right along the top of the trigger guard and along the top of the grips. It’s lower, as compared to the mini beavertail frame extension, than I’m used to. Basically, the only exposed frame is in front of and behind the grip panels (front- and backstrap, mostly).
All of this meant that I sometimes rode the slide a little bit, whether it was with a thumb or two on the side – a thumbs-forward grip does not work here unless you ‘fly’ them off to the side – or with the web of my shooting hand on the underside of the cycling slide. Although I never suffered painful slide bite, I could tell that it was contacting or rubbing on my right hand. With weaker ammo that was barely cycling already, any friction on the slide was a deal breaker. I actually think this gun might be shot best with a single hand, making sure not to hold it too high up on the grip due to how low the sides of the slide actually hang.
Aside from struggling to remember to modify my normal shooting grip, shooting the PPK/S .22 was a real pleasure! Recoil is minimal and absolutely controllable due to the weight and construction of the pistol, but it still offers enough kick and feedback to be a lot of fun to shoot. I have some heavier, all-steel .22 LR pistols that barely move when you fire them, and the PPK/S gives you more of the sensation of shooting a ‘real gun’ than those do.
Despite the short barrel and short sight radius, the pistol was very accurate for me for plinking purposes. The steel sights are sharp and there is plenty of light around the front blade to help with quick acquisition. If the front blade had a dot or was otherwise not the same solid black as the rear sight, my rested target accuracy would have been better. I found the factory-installed front sight to hit right where I wanted it and the rear sight required no adjustment either.
The trigger in single action is pretty good. It’s fairly short with just a little creep before the break and, as far as DA/SA guns go, I’d say it’s up there in the good+ to almost-very-good category. There’s a couple millimeters of slack that you don’t have to repeat if you ride the reset, which gives enough of a ‘click’ feel that doing so accurately is pretty easy. Walther states 6.6 lbs for the single action pull but I was consistently measuring much closer to 5 lbs. The overall shape and contour of the trigger works well for me. I really wouldn’t change anything in the SA trigger pull category here at all.
The trigger in double action is crazy heavy. It’s super heavy in the centerfire PPKs as well. Walther says it’s 17.5 lbs. DA and I measured that amount exactly once. It was between 17 and 20 lbs on other tests. I believe the gun was consistent, but I just struggled to hold the darn thing still and keep the gauge on the same spot on the trigger each time while pulling that hard.
There’s the exact same amount of slack in DA as in SA (possibly it’s moving a firing pin block out of the way if it has one, but I’m not diving into the mechanics of this gun), and the overall DA pull is consistent – no stacking. It’s a bit gritty, but not horrible and I’d expect it will smooth out with time (assuming you ever pull the trigger in DA).
Bottom line: it isn’t actually physically difficult to pull the trigger with your finger – at least not for me – and it certainly ups the safety factor if you chose to carry the gun in DA with the safety disengaged. My accuracy in DA was just fine and I attribute that to the consistent pull right up to the break.
I thought the location of the mag release would be weird but it wasn’t an issue at all. That and the safety work just fine. The safety has nice, positive clicks at either end and smooth travel in between. The decocker function is easy to operate. The magazine drops free, empty or full, and loads easily even without one of those thumb button things that you see on many .22 LR pistol mags.
The lack of an external slide lock is not an issue for me as I have become quite used to my Beretta Nano, which is my EDC tun and has no external controls whatsoever other than a mag release. I could see this being slightly annoying if you’re using the PPK/S to introduce new shooters to pistols, however. You’ll need to keep an empty mag handy or you won’t be able to lock the slide back on command.
Conclusions
Bottom line: this is a really fun gun at the range. A good trigger, excellent accuracy, good reliability with quality/stronger .22 ammo (solid primer hits, btw), good ergos and overall solid, quality feel and heft make it a pleasure to shoot. It’s definitely a nice looking gun, too – anybody can identify it as the James Bond gun. “Cool factor” is there in spades, but in a caliber that’s easy to shoot, afford, and enjoy.
I believe there are a couple of .22 LR pistols in the same price range that are more reliable and accurate, but they don’t generally operate the same way as a centerfire or look much like a ‘normal’ pistol. For instance, a Ruger Mark III or 22/45 with their internal bolts. GREAT guns, but I find it easier to teach new shooters on something a little more ‘standard.’ Assuming our number one goal here is fun, I’d put the PPK/S .22 near the top of the list.
My personal experience with semi-auto .22 LR pistol reliability when the whole slide reciprocates isn’t great – I typically expect at least some ammo sensitivity. The PPK/S appears to cycle better than average now that it’s been broken in and I have learned to keep my grubby mitts off the slide. While plenty of other options compete on price and reliable cycling, the real deal steel feel of the PPK/S and the James Bond cachet give it something extra. Especially with a can on the front!
Specifications:
Length: 6.1”
Barrel Length: 3.3”
Height: 4.9”
Width: 0.98”
Weight: 24 oz
Capacity: 10 rounds of .22 long rifle
Trigger Pull Weight: 17.5 lbs DA, 6.6 lbs SA (as stated by Walther. SA ~5 lbs as measured)
MSRP: $449 Black Finish, $469 Nickel Finish. Typical retail price $346 and $376, respectively (see GrabAGun, KYGunCo, etc)
Ratings (out of 5 stars):
Accuracy: * * * *
Given the small size, short sight radius, and black front sight I was much more accurate with this pistol than I expected to be. The fixed barrel certainly shoots straight, and I think the mechanical accuracy potential of the thing is way higher than I could get out of it.
Ergonomics: * * * *
Frame fit and angle are nice. Trigger is nice. Controls are fine, although I’m not a fan of slide-mounted safeties. Easy to manipulate the slide. Overall, comfortable and very good ergos for a sub-compact.
Reliability: * * *
Three stars (average) in comparison against my experience with direct competitors, meaning sub-$400 semi-auto .22 LR pistols with reciprocating slides. Some distaste for light-loaded ammo. 100% reliable with stronger stuff. Overall, I think it’s about average for .22 of this sort.
Customize This: * *
As far as I can tell, the only aftermarket option that exists are thread adapters that are technically sold for the P22, but fit the PPK/S .22 perfectly. These would give you the ability to mount compensators, flash hiders, fake silencers, real silencers, and other silliness onto the barrel. Normal PPK/S grip panels won’t fit, and I can’t seem to find aftermarket options. Same for sights. At least not yet… (I believe the gun has been on the market for about 8 months). Most holsters for the PPK should work.
Fun Factor: * * * * *
I’m James Bond, beotch!
Overall: * * *
A fun-to-shoot .22 option. Decent gun to teach first timers, but interesting and accurate enough that you won’t get bored with it either. I wish it ran cheap-o ammo better. If it did that, cost a bit less, or was made of steel/aluminum instead of zinc alloy this would be an “above average” four star rated pistol.
If I had a PPK I would buy one as training tool. As a 1911 fan boy I have the GSG/SiG 22 version for that reason. Back in the days when I could get a brick of golden bullets for $20 it was a great training pistol. (My 1911-22 hates Winchester bulk as does my Nano) However, unless that is your reason there are other 22lr pistols that are better choice just for shooting.
Afterreading this several times it does not sound like something a young man/woman would say. This sounds more like gun control propaganda. I do not buy it.
Wonder if they make concealment for ARs? Being from Chino, CA they might offer some to the local PD.
Ironic.
No disrespect to the hundreds of thousands of rounds of experience between the hosts of the video, but they’ve arrived at the modifications they need BECAUSE of that extensive experience.For us mere mortals-myself included-we are better served going to a pistol class, and hitting the square range to reinforce the fundamentals.
XS Big Dot 24/7’s for me.
take a class. buy better ammo. practice practice practice. unless you are trying to be on the national shooting team or on top shot, upgrade the sights to night sights (Tru glo or Trijicon), maybe add an extended slide lock, and move on. I buy guns for the purpose of self-defense and what makes concealed carry work better not to spend so much to improve how many I can get on the x-ring as opposed to the 9. In the tactical pistol class I took at Asymetric Solutions, our instructor Grady Powell said it best, “if your holes on the target look nice, pretty and neat, you are trying to0 hard. Make that mothefucker look like swiss cheese”
We like to talk about defense use around these parts. I would like to point out that if you are making those mods for fun and gun games, knock yourself out and play to your hearts content. If you will be using this as a defensive gun pistol, you should think twice or find something that is what you want from the factory. The safety issue true or imagined will be used by the persecutor to make it look like you had been planning for a kill from day one when you purchased your gun. Even if not true, you will have to defend yourself from the BS!
Odd that being insane can keep you from owning a gun, but not from running for office.
All my Glocks get night sights extended slide and mag releases, and that’s it. I like that trigger because it’s so consistent between different models. The 26 shoots like the 19 which shoots like the 23 which shoots like the 27. I don’t really need more accuracy…..as long as I can shoot a group under 1 minute of bad guy, I’m happy.
if you own a gun, you are mentally ill. See how that works?
Voting is much more dangerous than owning a gun.
You’re giving the keys to a ton of advanced weapon systems to a complete sociopath.
Not on my list
It seems to me that there should probably be laws against aligning a supposedly impartial government service with politically motivated benefactors…
Also, it really strikes me as odd that so many police departments apparently need so much money for training and gadgets, while I somehow manage to obtain better training, and nice equipment, on income significantly less than the average salary of all law enforcement officers, much less the ridiculous funding levels some of these departments get. Hell, some of these departments get more training and equipment funding than military infantry units, yet aren’t nearly as effective. At anything.
“Oh and strangely enough the billionaire host of the gig (Tilman Fertitta) is the same guy who’s been cozying-up to (i.e. funding) . . . wait for it . . . Mark Kelly and Gabrielle Giffords of Americans for Irresponsible Disarmament”
Gag!
People who have made the decision to try and *kill* someone are not going to stop because they can’t find a handy firearm. They’ll use whatever’s handy like…OTHER WEAPONS.
“So you gotta look at OJ’s situation. He’s paying $25,000 a month in alimony, got another man driving around in his car and fucking his wife in a house he’s still paying the mortgage on. Now I’m not saying he should have killed her… but I understand.”
– Chris Rock
I swear to God I still don’t understand why “gun violence” and “violence” (“other violence”?) are separate categories for some reason.
Sounds like he and Evie Hudak drink the same kool-aid.
.22 for sale, really??? I got lucky and found some cci (200 rounds) this summer and I don’t even use it, was hoping to trade it for something I do use.
Have you ever heard of a SIG, Glock or lowly Ruger that needed “breaking in?” What a crock of crap this is from gun reviewers, always trying to rationaliz
Great, now I have to go scrub my Sigma. Rationally, I know that it’s perfectly clean, but it just FEELS dirty now…
You’re welcome for the tip. Only thing they are really saying is… something happened.
LOL. I can shoot a under over faster than 10 a minute.
[I made it pretty for you. — Matt in FL]
Not only was the rifle used at Sandy Hook not an assault rifle. It wasn’t even an assault weapon. Connecticut has had an assault weapons ban for the last 20 years.
“But they are evading the law by complying with it!”
I wish they’d just spend more time approving NFA papers…
I got 1jx-88y2-iaib
Redding, Ct: Politically incorrect conduct. Nice thought huh? Being politically incorrect as a crime.
Haven’t read the bill yet, but there needs to be massive fines on liberal states that WILL harass gun owners otherwise. This massive fine should also be imposed on FOPA as well. Something like,
“Any state or locality that falsely arrests an individual for conduct protected under this law shall be fined the cost of the victims legal fees plus 100,000 dollars.”
Otherwise they WILL arrest and harass you. NYC will not give a fuck, they’ll just ignore it and arrest anyone. Massive fines and threat of swift action will be the only way to make this work.
I bought one, and I love it. Offhand groups at 7 yards about 3″, two handed about 1.25″. Fun little plinker, and it feels just like my PPK/S in .380 auto. Now I have to buy another for the wife 🙂
My daughter and I just recently got our CCW permit. We both Ibought a Walther 22. We both really love them, but both of us have had issues with them. They do not always chamber the bullet. Mine more than my daughter. In shooting both of them, I realized, using the same ammo, that my gun did not shoot the casing as far as my daughter’s did. Was thinking maybe it has something to do with the spring. Was just wondering what your thoughts might be? We did find that it made a big difference in the jamming of a casing staying in the chamber by the way we held our arms. Bending the elbow caused this to be a big problem. Was told by a friend that we were bringing our wrist back from the recoil and that was causing the distance to be shorter also. Or something like that. I have carpel tunnel in both wrists, plus am not young any more, so my strength is less than a lot of people. Having said all that it is one of only a few that I can can chamber ammo on and adore it for the fun of shooting it. We both want it to be our carry gun, but the reliability issues have to get better first. I also have a Ruger 22, but it is a heavier gun. It is okay, but I like the lightness and shooting of the walther a little better.
Thank you for your review, as it has been helpful.
My wife bought a PPK/S 22 yesterday because out of every 22 in Buds selection this was by far the one she liked to hold the most. The gun felt solid and substantial but not too heavy for her – she just liked it better than any other 22 in the store. She doesn’t know the first thing about James Bond but after she handled this gun we couldn’t find another that felt better for her. Although I had heard about the PPKS 22 sensitivity to bulk ammo – we put almost 200 rounds of federal through it last night without a single issue. Very fun to shoot, accurate and totally reliable so far. This does not mean that this is the perfect 22 or even that it’s better than some other 22’s out there – (I wanted the 22/45 lite) but in this case the Walther PPKS 22 IS the perfect gun for my wife.
I too live in NY and would like to know if the PPKs can be legally owned and registered in this crappy state. If anyone has an answer, I’d appreciate a response.
Bought the PPK/S .22LR Oct. 2014. Found it to be an exceptional gun well made, tight, highly accurate, and a nice carry gun. Over a thousand rounds fired and only flaws were with some 20 year old ammo that was not high velocity. This gun loves high velocity ammo of any grain. Perfect carry gun and home defense for my needs. Would not hesitate to recommend it. PPKS 22lr; Berreta 92s; AR15.
Jeremy,
I enjoyed your review, having been a carrier/shooter/owner of three PPk pistols over the last 50 years. In the ’60s and ’70s, I was an American version of Ian Flemming’s imaginary character, working in the Far East. Some of my colleagues also favored these solid and compact pistols, in .380 ACP. The caliber is marginal but adequate, with good ammunition. The German or French manufactured guns were reliable, as they had to be. This is not necessarily true of the current S&W licensed copy. In my firm opinion, considerable work has to be done on a new one, particularly recoil spring replacement, to make it trustworthy. And one must trim and smooth the lower front of the slide, so it doesn’t tear up your hands and your clothing.
Right now, I own two of the PPk/S versions, where the rear of the grip frame is solid, unlike the original design. The new design is far better and stronger…probably one of the few good things coming out of GCA 68 mandates for importation.
My Manhurin manufactured .22 PPk/S is an early Interarms import of the Walther-licensed French version, with the proprietary and durable bright finish. At the time, Walther was making no .22 PPks, but their French licensee was. It is absolutely up to German standards of fit, finish, and function. If you get a chance to buy one, do. It’s quality and feel is light years beyond the current offering, but they are not common; took me years to find one, before the Internet.
My other PPk/S is in .380 ACP, very recently manufactured by S&W. It was a major disappointment at first. S&W did not follow German design specs. The recoil spring was made of too heavy a gauge of music wire, with slide pull weight above 20 pounds. It was very difficult to draw back for loading, and slide return, during firing, was so violent, fast, and short that it sometimes could not pick up a cartridge, or cartridges could not rise fast enough in the magazine, or they would be slammed forward so hard as to cause a nose dive jam. That is not a gun I would have trusted 40 years ago, or today. I now wind my own custom springs on a lathe, of whatever wire gauge and pitch I choose, and I heat treat them. I made a “correct” one for the S&W, and it now works like an original German gun would.
The S&W rear sight was apparently made of cheap sintered metal which broke cleanly, showing a crystalline structure, the first time I tried to move it slightly to correct for windage. S&W kindly sent me a decent blued steel replacement under warranty.
The lower front edges of the slide were sharp, acute, and had never been streamlined at the factory. They were really nasty, and would easily cut flesh and shred clothing, should you carry one much, as I planned to do. I ground, filed, and polished my slide to the correct specs used by the French on my .22 PPk. Then I sent what I thought was a helpful and tactful letter suggesting that they do the same on the S&W production line, along with my reasons. The good folks at S&W did not feel it was appropriate to acknowledge my letter. I subsequently examined several other new PPk/Ss that were exactly the same. Maybe they have changed it by now.
But the original mid-1930s design is a good one, and anybody considering a new carry gun would be pleased with a steel (not pot metal) PPk/S. I think $350 or more is a bit high for a light metal .22 PPk/S that may or may not last beyond a few thousand rounds. But a new steel .32 ACP or .380 ACP PPk/S from S&W would be a good bet if you or your gunsmith have the patience and skill to work the bugs out of it, to turn it into something the earlier Walther quality control people would have allowed to get out the front door. Wolff has a good selection of PPk recoil springs, and the other springs, to make one of the new S&W PPk/S pistols work fine, if you take some time to debug it.
If only I had not casually sold or traded off my original new 1964 .380 ACP PPk, imported by the late Sam Cummings’ Interarms. (…He was, by the way,a CIA graduate.) We thought Sam, Interarms, ready availability of finely crafted pistols, and “the good old days” would last forever.
They didn’t.
But hey, good German and French steel ones are still on the used market, if you have fine taste, deep pockets, can convince somebody to part with his, and lean away from plastic and aluminum guns which may work just fine, but aren’t the same. I value my Glocks, but they are strictly functional. The PPk is also art.
And yes, my colleagues and I all loved the Bond movies, and never missed one when we were in the states. It was escapism for us, as much as for anybody else. He had so much irresponsible fun, never got hit by real bullets, and seldom got bogged down in the bureaucratic hassles, budget fights, and paperwork mountains we knew too well. So why not have a PPk, which served a real world purpose anyway, and was made of the “right stuff”, as we hoped we were? 😉
Buy ’em when you find ’em, if you can.
The slide is made from Zamak which is an aluminum-zinc alloy (AKA: Pot Metal). My PPK/S would not shoot any (6) round, loaded magazine with of any of the (6) brands of Target or HVRN ammo which I tried in it without either a FTF or a FTE (or both) from each of (4) test magazines and 500 rounds of ammo. I traded it in on a Ruger .22/45!
Looks like total CRAP!
By late 2019, I already had a nice, blued German Interarms PPKs, when the 22 version came up in a closeout sale from an online vendor. I knew it was a zinc-alloy pistol, but the $250 sale price made it doable. So far, no problems with the HV 22LR I’ve shot through it. And hey, at least it’s not made in China! I also have the .22 Bersa version, and with it’s aluminum frame, steel slide, and nicer trigger, IMHO, it is batter quality.
By the way, in the novel ‘Dr No’, Bond does indeed surrender a .25 Beretta. But I contacted the author of a video on Bonds guns, and he said, based on his research of movie-studio property records, that on the big screen, Bond actually surrenders a Beretta M1934 .380 for a 7,65 Walther PP. Then in one scene, later in the movie, Bond dispatches one of the bad guys with a suppressed FN !910! I’m sure the producers figured most movie-goers wouldn’t even notice.