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As we reported earlier, Mexico is in the throes of a revolution. Thousands of so-called “vigilantes” have taken control of areas of extreme lawlessness, rejecting the federal government’s “protection.”
The Mexican citizen militia – for that is what it is – have armed themselves with whatever comes to hand. They’re capturing firearms from the cartels, police and military and bringing out guns that have been squirreled away for years, hidden from the government ever since the federales turned their back on their citizens’ Constitutional right to keep and bear arms.
Here are photos of some of those citizens who have taken up arms to protect themselves and their families.
An armed man belonging to the Self-Defense Council of Michoacan, (CAM), stands guard at checkpoint at the entrance of Antunez, Mexico. (AP Photo/Eduardo Verdugo)
A man belonging to the Self-Defense Council of Michacan, (CAM), holds up his gun during an operation to flush out alleged members of the Knights Templar drug cartel from the town of Nueva Italia, Mexico. (AP Photo/Eduardo Verdugo)
“Community police” vigilante Rene Zeferino rides in the back of a pickup as his unit patrols the streets of Ayutla de los Libres, Guerrero state, Mexico. Fed up with police corruption and drug gang violence, a number of communities in the southern Mexican state of Guerrero and neighboring states have formed citizen police groups. (AP Photo/Rebecca Blackwell)
Men belonging to the Self-Defense Council of Michacan, (CAM), take cover during a firefight while trying to flush out alleged members of the Knights Templar drug cartel from the town of Nueva Italia, Mexico. The vigilantes say they are liberating territory in the so-called Tierra Caliente and are aiming for the farming hub of Apatzingan, said to be the cartel’s central command. Mexican military troops are staying outside the town and there are no federal police in sight. (AP Photo/Eduardo Verdugo)
Members of a FUPCEG vigilante group patrol in Xaltianguis, Guerrero state, Mexico. The heavily armed vigilante force took over the town in the Mexican state of Guerrero last month by driving out a rival band, blowing up a car with gas cylinders and cutting up the body of one of two fallen foes. (AP Photo/Rebecca Blackwell)
Robert Farago is the former publisher of The Truth About Guns (TTAG). He started the site to explore the ethics, morality, business, politics, culture, technology, practice, strategy, dangers and fun of guns.
0 thoughts on “Guns of the [Most Recent] Mexican Revolution”
I for one am grateful that all these people that admit to being a hair’s breadth away from an extreme psychotic episode choose not to carry. Most of us aren’t like you though. We do this thing called self-control.
News reports say that the 43 year old immediately assaulted the 71 year old as he returned to the theater. But so far no one has said if the 43 year old actually attempted to physically batter the old man.
My only prayer is that the U.S. stays the hell out of this fight. Not out of some “pointless war” point of view, but from a historical viewpoint that freedom won is generally more cherished than freedom given. It will be bloody and U.S. military intervention would most definitely save the lives of Mexican civilians but I do believe the end result will be a much more stable (and free) government than if we marched in and handed the revolutionaries the keys.
“Human beings have a limitless capacity for irrational acts, bizarre confrontations, moments of utter craziness. — and that includes those of us who are usually mature, sane and rational beings.”
Okay, I’ll spot you that for the sake of argument.
Do these same human being suddenly become infallible when they enter the voting booth to elect those whom you would have do the thinkin’ for us?
Are those elected to office to write and enforce gun laws excluded from your description above? (and can you cite any evidence of same?)
Do those who are elected to write and enforce laws have more or less, better or worse, incentives to make good decisions than those of us who must live or die by those decisions?
With all this talk of competing .380’s, anyone have an opinion on the Walther PK380? Single stack, 8-shot. Supposedly easy-to-rack slide. Close in size to the P22. I have no opinion, just wondering.
As others have said, I do hope the manufacturers will include tie willingness to sell to any state agency to the ability to sell to the public. It would be even better if some of the ammunition and accessory manufacturers would step up and pull out, as well.
The market – both businesses and consumers – has incredible power to act against these kind of regulations it they have the cajones to actually exercise that power. It is not always instant gratification, but persistence could well give a much more long term solution.
“So the Mexican federales are cleaning-out the cartels and their police allies to placate the local militia”
IMHO, that is incorrect. They are cleaning out the cartels and their police allies so they don’t look foolish, as if they can’t protect their citizens, and need to placate the local militia. Subtle difference, but since they seemed to be perfectly okay with the militia (funnily called “vigilantes” by the left-wing media) until the spotlight was focused on them.
I have no doubt that Ms. Lorraine Devon Wilke would unload a full clip into an intruder in her house threatening her squeeze/children at 3 a.m. quicker than you could say “Jack Robinson” if the circumstances permitted. Anyone who was sane would. It’s the natural, hard-wired into our brain “Fight or Flight” reflex. She has existential issues.
The Federales are as corrupt as the rest of Mexico, where every official at every level has his hand out and his eyes turned the other way. In Mexico, it’s not plomo o plata, it’s dame la plata.
Keep your guns, militiamen. You’re going to need them.
I’d like to be the first person to say that I really appreciate seeing all of the intelligent gun owner comments on this topic. It warms my heart to know there are people out there that actually have a brain and know how to apply it’s wealth of knowledge. It always seems like everyone near me just lacks common sense and enough knowledge to talk about weapons in an informative manner. You all get a gold star from me for being incredibly well mannered and disciplined!
If Sig doesn’t make it I won’t carry it. But there are times when I only carry my p238 since my P229 40 S&W is just too big to carry. Here in AZ it gets hot and the P229 can be bulky in shorts. My M11-A1 9mm can also be a bit large in some clothes. So better to carry a hot loaded 380 defense round than nothing
Does anyone (with actual shooting experience) have an opinion on the difference between similar guns chambered in .380 vs 9mm? For instance, the Sig P238 vs Sig P938, or other same-size/same-weight guns. I would think that the 9 would be considerably snappier, since it has a lot more muzzle energy.
Um, the Garand CAN be topped off at anytime, but its kinda hard to do with single rounds, hence why it was designed to have the clip itself manually ejected and a fresh one inserted, its much faster than topping off. The clup sound was also near impossible to hear outside of a few yards in combat, and almost never a worry in battle, the number of troops that died as a result are miniscule
I have a question.
Is carrying a rifle or shotgun in a non ridged case, considered concealed carry, or open carry? I’m referring to a case that pretty well denotes what’s inside, rather than a rectangular hard case that could contain just about anything.
I disagree. Nothing beats a suburb with it’s own county sheriff deputy in his vehicle 3-minutes away 24/7, with a bridge as the only way in or out. And, everyone alarmed and armed. Predators go for a lot easier targets that us.
About 18 years ago someone tried. On our home, I was away on business but the noise made by the perp woke my wife up around 2:00am. 911 call followed, was told to stand by the alarm system and to press the panic button if she needed to. The deputy was in our backyard within 2-minutes. The bridge was raised immediately. Helicopter followed, as well as K9 units. Needless to say the perp was caught and processed.
I for one am grateful that all these people that admit to being a hair’s breadth away from an extreme psychotic episode choose not to carry. Most of us aren’t like you though. We do this thing called self-control.
I can see pride in their eyes overwhelming the fear.
Have any real facts come out yet?
News reports say that the 43 year old immediately assaulted the 71 year old as he returned to the theater. But so far no one has said if the 43 year old actually attempted to physically batter the old man.
My only prayer is that the U.S. stays the hell out of this fight. Not out of some “pointless war” point of view, but from a historical viewpoint that freedom won is generally more cherished than freedom given. It will be bloody and U.S. military intervention would most definitely save the lives of Mexican civilians but I do believe the end result will be a much more stable (and free) government than if we marched in and handed the revolutionaries the keys.
“Human beings have a limitless capacity for irrational acts, bizarre confrontations, moments of utter craziness. — and that includes those of us who are usually mature, sane and rational beings.”
Okay, I’ll spot you that for the sake of argument.
Do these same human being suddenly become infallible when they enter the voting booth to elect those whom you would have do the thinkin’ for us?
Are those elected to office to write and enforce gun laws excluded from your description above? (and can you cite any evidence of same?)
Do those who are elected to write and enforce laws have more or less, better or worse, incentives to make good decisions than those of us who must live or die by those decisions?
Nice work, Denver P.D.!
.380 out of a 2.1″ barrel? Really? Is the muzzle energy above or below the threshold needed to moderately injure a squirrel.
Jeremy S is going to lose his freaking mind.
With all this talk of competing .380’s, anyone have an opinion on the Walther PK380? Single stack, 8-shot. Supposedly easy-to-rack slide. Close in size to the P22. I have no opinion, just wondering.
Just for the record, the name of the mall is ‘Parkdale’, not ‘Parksdale’.
Text amended. Thanks.
As others have said, I do hope the manufacturers will include tie willingness to sell to any state agency to the ability to sell to the public. It would be even better if some of the ammunition and accessory manufacturers would step up and pull out, as well.
The market – both businesses and consumers – has incredible power to act against these kind of regulations it they have the cajones to actually exercise that power. It is not always instant gratification, but persistence could well give a much more long term solution.
Very Glocky.
So if I reload my own ammo…. Ghost Bullets?
“So the Mexican federales are cleaning-out the cartels and their police allies to placate the local militia”
IMHO, that is incorrect. They are cleaning out the cartels and their police allies so they don’t look foolish, as if they can’t protect their citizens, and need to placate the local militia. Subtle difference, but since they seemed to be perfectly okay with the militia (funnily called “vigilantes” by the left-wing media) until the spotlight was focused on them.
I have no doubt that Ms. Lorraine Devon Wilke would unload a full clip into an intruder in her house threatening her squeeze/children at 3 a.m. quicker than you could say “Jack Robinson” if the circumstances permitted. Anyone who was sane would. It’s the natural, hard-wired into our brain “Fight or Flight” reflex. She has existential issues.
The Federales are as corrupt as the rest of Mexico, where every official at every level has his hand out and his eyes turned the other way. In Mexico, it’s not plomo o plata, it’s dame la plata.
Keep your guns, militiamen. You’re going to need them.
I’d like to be the first person to say that I really appreciate seeing all of the intelligent gun owner comments on this topic. It warms my heart to know there are people out there that actually have a brain and know how to apply it’s wealth of knowledge. It always seems like everyone near me just lacks common sense and enough knowledge to talk about weapons in an informative manner. You all get a gold star from me for being incredibly well mannered and disciplined!
If Sig doesn’t make it I won’t carry it. But there are times when I only carry my p238 since my P229 40 S&W is just too big to carry. Here in AZ it gets hot and the P229 can be bulky in shorts. My M11-A1 9mm can also be a bit large in some clothes. So better to carry a hot loaded 380 defense round than nothing
Did the federales ask for directions from the invisible swordsman too?
Does anyone (with actual shooting experience) have an opinion on the difference between similar guns chambered in .380 vs 9mm? For instance, the Sig P238 vs Sig P938, or other same-size/same-weight guns. I would think that the 9 would be considerably snappier, since it has a lot more muzzle energy.
Um, the Garand CAN be topped off at anytime, but its kinda hard to do with single rounds, hence why it was designed to have the clip itself manually ejected and a fresh one inserted, its much faster than topping off. The clup sound was also near impossible to hear outside of a few yards in combat, and almost never a worry in battle, the number of troops that died as a result are miniscule
I have a question.
Is carrying a rifle or shotgun in a non ridged case, considered concealed carry, or open carry? I’m referring to a case that pretty well denotes what’s inside, rather than a rectangular hard case that could contain just about anything.
Let me be the first hunter to say, “We’ll, duh.”
I disagree. Nothing beats a suburb with it’s own county sheriff deputy in his vehicle 3-minutes away 24/7, with a bridge as the only way in or out. And, everyone alarmed and armed. Predators go for a lot easier targets that us.
About 18 years ago someone tried. On our home, I was away on business but the noise made by the perp woke my wife up around 2:00am. 911 call followed, was told to stand by the alarm system and to press the panic button if she needed to. The deputy was in our backyard within 2-minutes. The bridge was raised immediately. Helicopter followed, as well as K9 units. Needless to say the perp was caught and processed.