New Mexico Governor Michelle Lujan Grisham
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In a recent social media post, New Mexico Governor Michelle Lujan Grisham claimed that her executive order that tried to hijack public health and weaponize it against the Second Amendment (not to mention Article II, Section 6 of the state’s constitution) was somehow working to reduce “gun violence.”

As support, she offered a link to NM Political Report, but she apparently wasn’t aware that the article just reprinted what she had announced and didn’t offer any additional analysis to prove her claims. So, as is her usual practice, she’s offering a lot more style than substance, offering the state nothing more than a self-inflating bag of hot air.

The Governor fails to mention that not only was the centerpiece of her unconstitutional order killed in court (banning concealed carry in Bernalillo County), but her entire approach to the issue has been roundly mocked by both the left and the right. Even public health professionals invited by the Democrat Party for a congressional hearing think she’s on the wrong track.

But let’s look at the numbers she gave to the press for them to uncritically regurgitate. They sound impressive on the surface, with hundreds of guns taken off the streets and thousands of “bad guys” arrested. But, when you look at her talking points individually and in context, these numbers are just more hot air.

Seized guns? The black and grey market in the state will quickly replace them. The 219 guns she claims were confiscated isn’t even a carload. Criminals will be back on the streets with new guns in hand in no time.

How about those gun “buybacks“? I know from talking to people who were there that only a handful of people sold dozens of rusted junk guns at the Las Cruces event before it ran out of money. No actual guns used by criminals or that would realistically be used in future crimes were picked up at these events. It was just a total waste of money.

What about the arrests? Let’s keep in mind that New Mexico’s criminal justice system isn’t adequately described as “revolving door.” It’s more like The Big Rock Candy Mountains where all the cops have wooden legs, the jails are made of tin, and you can walk right out again as soon as you are in.

In the rare occasions that cops feel comfortable actually making arrests, suspects are back out on the street almost right away, committing even more serious crimes because they know they can get away with it.

If Governor Grisham had provided some conviction and incarceration numbers to support her claim of progress, maybe we could take her seriously, but she knows she doesn’t have them. Talk privately to any law enforcement officer in the state and they’ll tell you that things aren’t gong well, no matter what the big boss says in front of the media.

In sum, what we have here is a wanna-be doctor who just slapped a band-aid over a sucking chest wound and is now bragging about the great job she’s done. The hole’s covered up, but the deep problems New Mexico has have not been addressed.

There are still roving gangs of near-homeless people scouring the state for any property that’s not bolted down so they can trade it for more fentanyl. For adults, the economics are terrible and poverty is rampant. For kids, the future is terrible because the state still has among the worst educational systems, which will only lead to even more poverty.

If Governor Grisham was serious at all, she would have spent her time in office trying to solve these problems. But she didn’t and she won’t. She’s more interested in empty grand gestures meant to appease her far left, anti-gun base. It’s just another pathetic attempt to distract gullible, low information voters.

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  4. Any gun owner with sufficient control can slow down the roving theftsters without the governor’s interference.

  5. No gunms in New Mexico,
    Huh.
    I suppose we can assume its the Goonevers attempt to end the Lincoln County Wars.
    All this ridicule when I think she needs a Pat in the back

  6. here is what she is doing:

    1. buy backs were happening anyway without her ‘order’ but suddenly she is attributing it to the order.

    2. bad guys and their guns seized, that just normal police work that should have been happening all this time. but she is suddenly crediting it to her order, so why wasn’t it happening before tyrant? ya just saving normal law enforcement for that time you can use it to make points with an ignorant price with your little shell game here.

    all these claims of her is akin to saying ‘I predict the sun will rise and set today” to a blind man then when it happens claim “see, i told ya so”

    she’s running a con with her claims.

    in short, her order did nothing.

        • And here he is, back again, even though NO ONE will read through even 10% of his b.s. – unwelcome back, lil’ d !
          Oh, apparently he’s still mad about his ex, Moxie Cowznofsky shooting one of his jewels off while teaching her gun handling skills….still can’t take the blame about that huh – it’s still ALL guns fault, right moron ?
          Without further adieu, our favorite punching bag dacian.

  7. There was a myth that everyone carried guns in the Old West. In fact towns like Tombstone had more gun ban laws than they do today. And Wyatt Earp fought at the OK Corral over enforcing no guns in the town.

    In the movies, it seems like every cowboy, cowhand, and dubious wandering stranger carries a revolver or a rifle. In reality, guns were heavily regulated in many towns and cities on the frontier. Most people did own guns in the West, but when it came to entering a town, you either had to leave your weapon at home or hand it over to local authorities. Dodge City, a famously wild frontier town in Kansas, had a large sign in the middle of town reading: “The Carrying of Firearms Strictly Prohibited.” Indeed, the gunfight at the O.K. Corral in Tombstone, Arizona — the most famous shootout in the history of the Old West — reached a head when lawman Wyatt Earp ordered a group of cowboys to drop their weapons in accordance with local laws. According to Adam Winkler, a specialist in U.S. constitutional law, “Tombstone had much more restrictive laws on carrying guns in public in the 1880s than it has today.

    https://historyfacts.com/us-history/article/7-myths-about-the-wild-west/

    • Funny how all those restrictions went away once statehood became a thing but congrats you are posting more relevant information than Miner again. Keep it up Jerry there were actual points this time.

    • It is true that some towns banned carrying in their limits. But at that time any citizen could buy any firearm, including gatling guns and artillery if they so chose and could afford it.

      No background checks. No prohibited person. No questions asked.

    • https://realhistoryfacts.real/us-history/article/7-myths-about-the-wild-west/

      The real history is that dacian picked out and isolated event to try to claim that anti-gun laws were common in the ‘old west’ and guns were heavily regulated in many towns and cities on the frontier and that while most people did own guns in the ‘old west’ when they went to town they either had to leave their weapon at home or hand it over to local authorities. He ignores, once again the reality, that there was no history or text or tradition of restricting gun ownership and carry and except for, in the overall picture, a few isolated instances of local ‘ordinances’ that ~99% of the country wasn’t like that at all no matter how much his link or him tries to amplify his sentiment that gun restrictions on law abiding people were a normal thing in the ‘old west’.

      • OH, also to note… the link I posted was not a real link, but if it were, well, its just being sarcastic to point out that myth and reality are two different things and daican lives in the world of myth that gun regulation upon law abiding was a normal thing in the country when it wasn’t actually.

      • “And Wyatt Earp fought at the OK Corral over enforcing no guns in the town”

        100% false.

        First, there was no “fought at the OK Corral”. The firefight happened in a vacant lot on Fremont Street which was about six doors down from the OK corral.

        Second, The Earps and their friend Doc Holliday went to encounter the outlaw cowboys to carry out an earlier threat made by the Earps that they would kill them. When they arrived, the Earps ordered the cowboys to put up their hands and the cowboys surrendered and raised their hands at which point the Earps began shooting them at point blank range. The cowboys then began firing back and some of the cowboys fled.

        There were five cowboys: Billy Claiborne, brothers Ike and Billy Clanton, and brothers Tom and Frank McLaury. Ike Clanton and Claiborne fled as the shooting started. There were supposedly 30 shots fired in 30 seconds. Billy Clanton and the McLaurys died. Morgan and Virgil Earp were seriously wounded, Holliday was grazed on the hip; Wyatt walked away unscathed.

        Third, some people witnessed the events and charged that the Earps had murdered the cowboys and that the cowboys were surrendering and not resisting. Ike Clanton filed murder charges. Justice Wells Spicer began the preliminary hearing on October 31 to decide whether or not Wyatt and Holliday would be bound over for a murder trial (the other Earps were still recovering from their wounds). The prosecutor only had to show probable cause. Wyatt and Doc were arrested and held without bail. Wyatt testified that he drew his pistol when he saw Billy Clanton and Frank McLaury draw their weapons and testified “The first two shots were fired by Billy Clanton and myself … I do not know which shot was fired first… The fight then became general.”. Although this was contrary to what other witnesses saw and testified (that the Earps began shooting the surrendering and not resisting men at point blank range), the case was ultimately sunk for the prosecutor when Ike Clanton’s testimony contradicted itself numerous times. The law was different back then, back then a ‘peace officer’ could shoot you just for thinking you were about to commit a crime – because the Earps were at the time ‘law enforcement’, and due to Ike Clantons testimony contradictions, the judge decided the Earps and Holiday were acting in an official capacity to commit these murder homicides.

        Wyatt Earp was not trying to enforce any “no guns in the town” thing, he was using his capacity as ‘law enforcement’ to carry out the threat of killing the cowboys.

        • Like I’ve said before Wyatt Earp was no hero.
          20% of the take was in Dodge City I believe, not in a saloon, and it was about the fines he handed out. What an incentive to abuse your power as a law enforcement officer which he did.

    • “There was a myth that everyone carried guns in the Old West.”

      Interesting. You were told that right here on TTAG when your claim was the exact opposite.

    • dacian, the DUNDERHEAD, Thanks for pointing out how “gun control laws” in the old West didn’t work any better than they do today. As to the cause of the gun fight, it is questionable as whether it was over “gun control” or just a feud between the Earps and the Clantons. Or a combination of both.

      You are again, reaching into the past to try to justify your Hoplophobia.

      Have you yet figured out the firning sequence of a cartidge? We are still waiting.
      Oh, by the way, where was that, that you allegedly killed a deer with a 9mm pistol?

  8. TESTED: Byrna Kinetic & Max Rounds in Tactical Live Fire Defense Drills Against Armed Threat. (note: spoiler alert…for those viewing and snowflakes and karens who think these methods is a good idea..this type of less than lethal force would be less likely or not effective at stopping a threat.)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sl7DXd4SBKw

  10. I read recently that Card was supposed to pick up a BATFE approved Form 4 purchased silencer at a local retailer in Saco and truthfully answered yes regarding his mental health hospitalization on the 4473 which terminated the transfer. Apparently this was the point when his “prohibited” status was officially documented and not with the confrontation with his fellow reservist as stated in this article

  11. People should know by now that Democrat Politicians are nothing but robots promoting the failed Democrat policies and they are to be totally ignored, as well as their unconstitutional policies and laws. Just ignore them as no one is going to get killed trying to enforce them unless they are complete morons.

  12. “As support, she offered a link to NM Political Report, but she apparently wasn’t aware that the article just reprinted what she had announced and didn’t offer any additional analysis to prove her claims.”

    As out of date as the phrase is these days; “Dollars to doughnuts” she knows this. This is [what should be] a threadbare tactic called “information laundering”.

    .gov does it all the time, though usually via anonymous sources. Your people tell the media something and then cite those reports later on.

  13. It is interesting to me that it’s the same people that want to convince everyone that guns are a public health crisis that also want to be able to mutilate children without their parents ever knowing. The same people that want women to have a constitutional right to abortion, even for minors. The very same people that refuse to stop the drug problems related to an open southern border.

  16. New Mexico population: 2.1 million
    U.S. approximate guns per capita: 1.2 to 1.5
    Estimated guns in New Mexico: 2.5 million to 3.2 million
    Guns “taken off the street” by New Mexico’s Governor: 219 plus 439=658
    658/2.5 million = 0.0002632, 1-0.0002632=0.9997368=99.97368%
    658/3.2 million = 0.0002056, 1-0.0002056=0.9997944=99.97944%

    So, the Gov’s big move has resulted in 99.974% to 99.979% of the guns that were in New Mexico still being in New Mexico. Wow. Very improvement, much successful.

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