House Bill Would Mandate ‘Safe Storage’ of Guns in Your Home..And Weaken the PLCAA

1. Try and check my guns for “safe storage”, and you might not survive the encounter..

   • Like I said many times… A Black American belonging to the democRat Party makes as much sense as a Jew belonging to the nazi party…

     Disgusting democRat donald mcEachin takes stupidity to its highest level…perfect advisor for Jim Crow Gun Control joe.

     • They give them money for their vote.

       I read 90% of blacks vote dem. If militia are ever formed…9 times out of 10 you would be right. 90% of the blacks vote to destroy the country.

       • I read 90% of blacks vote dem.

         They, like 50% of the voting population have “memory” problems… They are promised a shitload of “free stuff” by the Democrats who then, after being elected, proceed to screw over EVERYONE til the next election then more promises, backed up by a biased media and their voters (especially the “mostly dead” ones) forget the screwing they just got and vote for the same lying asshole all over again… Trump got 8% of the black vote in 2020, Hildabeast got 93% in ’16, Obama got 97% in 2012… Only about 70% of black voters consider themselves to be Democrats…

     • I think a better analogy might be: Black (or “minority” race/religion/creed) individuals belonging to, or relying on the democrat party is like chickens depending on Col. Harlan Sanders….

   • whoah everybody looks like we got a badass over here.

     • Woa everybody we have “Libtard Troll in here Woa every body tell this busy beef to take a hike!

       MaddMaxx made sense and you don’t You Mental disordered DemoRat Torie!

     • looks like we got a badass

       They do still exist, maybe you’ve never met one, but in this “snowflake” world there really are still badasses…

   • I feel like this is an attempt to not only get around the 2nd amendment, but also get around the fourth amendment. Because they have to have probable cause to come in your home. So how would they be able to check to see if people are in compliance, unless they break the 4th amendment. These democrats will stop at nothing to destroy our constitution.

2. My firearms are locked up.

   I’m my house. The front door is locked. They seem not content on the number of layers of security that is needed. What’s next? Guns inside of safes need trigger locks too?

   Lastly. It’s my home. Why are they trying to dictate how I manage my home. Go away regressive nanny statists.

   • Anonymous, “What’s next? Guns inside of safes need trigger locks too?”
     Yes, I think you are exactly right. The left will never be satisfied.
     I predict the 10 round magazine capacity limit will also be reduced until zero is attained.
     Just wait until they discover 10+1= 11!
     They will argue that most revolvers only hold 5 or 6, so you don’t need more than that in a semiauto.

     • and when that is proven not to stop determined thieves, they’ll want us to have a gunsafe within a gunsafe and a trigger lock.

     • That’s why the NY SAFE Act mandated no more than 7 rounds. (That provision was found to be unconstitutional, a I recall since there are a lot of pistols for which no 7 round mags exist. So now you are only permitted to load seven.)

       • I carry 2 15 rd. Hellcats. If dems ever outlaw semi-auto I will carry 3 Airlte PD snubs. Not a big deal. I wear a thin nylon vest and pop the guns in the pockets. No holster, no lint problems, ready to go.

         If I carry auto I put nothing else in the pocket other than the pistola. Been doing it for a decade. Still got my twig and balls in tact. But was never worried with the snubs anyway. Before I got the Hellcats, It was 2 Glock 43’s. Butthe Hellcats are the king. Virtually same size as the G43 and double the cap.

3. Im not taking ‘safe storage’ advice from these people after Kabul.

   • “Safe storage” is loaded and next to me…

     • Funny you should say that. SF has an ordinance, upheld by the Ninth and cert. den., requiring all firearms to be locked up unless on your person. The ordinance applies whether or not you have children or even if you live alone.

       • That is no good for me. I got guns in almost every room of the house. Even bathrooms. Only time ‘in the house’ I carry is when I go outside for a sauna. Then carry a little stainless snub. Even have guns in the shed. Never more than 2 or 3 feet from a gun…loaded and ready to go.

       • The 9th is in Occupied Territory owned lock stock and barrel by the Pelosi Newsome Brown Clan since Reagan Left Office The Only Peace CAlif Ever enjoyed until Ronnie Passed and that Newsome’s most favorite Quote is What Goes in Calif goes the Nation And that Stubborn SOB won’t leave like an Alabama Tick won’t let you pull its head out were it bit you;-)

       • Newsome’s most favorite Quote is What Goes in Calif goes the Nation

         Yeah it just got interesting in the CA recall, People will be permitted to PRINT their own ballots at home AND the state still intends to mail out ballots to EVERY registered voter in the state (dead OR alive)… Doesn’t make much sense unless you are a feckless Democrat Governor desperately trying to keep his job, when all else fails, “cheat”…

4. “Safe Storage” of lifesaving property (gun, fire extinguisher) is accessible storage.

   If you want to guarantee the safety of people who fuck around with others’ lifesaving property by punishing the victim of that crime, FOAD.

5. all the fuds are lining up to get their new safes!!! seriously tho, fuck off to these american talibanians

   • Some people have accused me of being a “fudd” because I own a few lever guns, revolvers, shotguns, and front stuffers. I just smile, nod my head, and ignore them. They don’t know what I’ve got, and I’m not about to tell them. 🙂

     • Do you think those things are all anyone else should be able to own?

       If the answer is no, then you’re not a Fudd.

       • Of course the answer is no. I don’t care what anyone owns —– as long as mine are bigger and meaner. 😉

   • Actually I could use another (bigger) safe. I am not home during the day, and I don’t want expensive items disappearing. I’ve run out of room. Plus I have nowhere to securely store the ammo, and as we all know, that stuff is worth real money these days.

     • I’ll store your extras for you. Send ’em over and I’ll take real good care of them!

6. All of my guns are “safely” stored.. The G29 is “safely” placed in a holster attached to the back of the end table to the right of my recliner, a 38 Special is “safely” stored in a holster attached to the inside of the vanity door in the master bath, my P90 Ruger is “safely” stored in a holster attached to the mattress on my bed.. A 12 gauge pump is “safely” stored beside the bookcase top on my dresser, a 9MM in the kitchen, another 9MM in the second bath, ARs in bedrooms 2 and 3… The rest? My hunting rifles and high end handguns are locked in a safe and the other ARs and AKs are in two locked gun cabinets (all locked and loaded)… Oh yeah there is the compact 9MM in the ankle holster that is with me every waking minute of my day… I am absolutely confident that no harm will come to any of my guns but I do appreciate that this guy is worried about their safety…

7. 🖕your mandates!! We live by that piece of parchment that was drafted a while ago!!! They also mentioned people like YOU.

8. Do these people ever ask themselves how these proposed laws should be enforced? There are only scientific wild ass guesses as to how many households have guns. Perhaps half or more of the US households have firearms. I really doubt that many non-gun owners (there are always a few on the extreme fringe) really want the Gestapo/Stasi/NKVD tactics required to go door-to-door and enforce such a law.

   • No enforcement. They’ll be “tack on” charges for zealous D.A.s to make examples of people arrested for other crimes.

     “So, Mr. Patriot, we have you charged with potential tax evasion, and a search of your residence resulted in the discovery of several firearms that the ATF recently ruled are prohibited, as well as the absence of any State-approved storage procedures. The charges for the latter will add 6 months for each exposed firearm.

     Of course, this can all be reduced to a misdemeanor if you’re able to provide us with actionable information on [insert name of another targeted individual]…”

9. Either way (NSSF & Government) safe gun storage is coming and gun owners better get with the times.

   Be thankful you don’t live in Israel. They are so much more serious about gun safety and storage.

10. Feds: we don’t have enough agents to enforce anything

    Also Feds: let’s inspect 300,000,000 homes

    Well, now that I’m identifying as Muslim when convenient I can’t let pork into my house anyway cuz Allah.

    • Also Feds: let’s surveil 300,000,000 Americans via their cell phones and monitor their social media with 24/7 algorithms to harvest catch phrases.

      FIFY

11. Shire Man
    I imagine they are dreaming of the English system where you have annual inspections of your safe that you pay for as part of your license. Plus usually one surprise inspection every two years on average.

    Just get rid of the scary guns then the rest next time.

12. So…free gun safes for all gun owners? 50+ gun size minimum? Tax credits? Rebates?

13. Dorky bills at the state and federal level are teaming with abundance all the time. Much of the time they garner little attention unless they are super extra dorky as gun bills usually are.

    I’ve said repeatedly on TTAGs that ignorant bills are a common occurrence and hardly something to get our nipples frosted over.

14. First few in the door are going to be wishing for ar500 cups and Kevlar jock straps. Door to door inspections hahaha.

15. No one will check your house for safe storage compliance. What they WILL do is prosecute the shit out of you if a kid gets your gun or it is stolen.

    • ^ this

      • Simple solution –

        Don’t have kids… 🙂

        Oh, wait…

    • “No one will check your house for safe storage compliance…”

      Agreed. What posters here seem to be missing is the circumvention of PLCCA, which I believe is the primary goal. Stop falling for the smoke screen and the obvious low hanging fruit offered by the gun banning industry.

      To negate PLCCA under the guise of “gun safety” would be their desired end result- no one will ever know how you store your firearms unless/until someone breaks in or someone rats you out.

16. Why hasn’t The Gun Industry Woken up and be proactive in fighting these congressmen. The FBI just bought 5 million dollars worth of ammo from Winchester. IF Winchester said NO. How would that affect the industry? STOP Selling to LEOS and The Gov’t see what happens. If they want to ENDANGER THEIR Industry, Endanger them back. The Gov’t want to crush their business, run them out and quit by any means, make the Gov’t care about where they get the ammo and guns from. and not securing your guns is a FEDERAL Offense? pfft. Wake up People VOTES These Clowns OUT.

    • It’s a noble thought, but any company that broke ranks would essentially be gifted a monopoly by its former competitors.

      • That company would suffer the consequences for that.

        • Most of the populous states are anti-gun, as are the major cities in pretty much every state. The “consequences” of exclusive access to government contracts in NY, CA, IL, Atlanta, Philadelphia, etc. (not to mention the current Federal regime) would most likely be financial independence of the private market.

          They could probably also count on the patronage of Fudds with their “I enjoy guns and shooting, but maintain a nuanced, neutral, or even favorable attitude toward people who want to end life as I know it for doing so” attitude.

        • Totally agree. Our private sector needs to start cutting off our government that has no interest in defending those same companies let along the people’s rights.

          That “gifted monopoly” would be short lived. When we gave “Amtrak” the gifted monopoly of passenger rail, it was bankrupt instantly and exists only because its government funded.

          If the private sector would start defending its interests as well as the interests of its consumers and CUT OFF government entities that exist for no other purpose than hurting American constitutional rights, and government had to buy its ammo and firearms from China (the lefts apparent ally at the moment) at least it would make even more apparent where its allegiance lay.

        • Kyle,
          How bankrupt are Ruger, Springfield Armory, HK, or S&W? How many “POTG” in comments sections jump all over any brother shooter who dares to “politicize” a “gun discussion” by bringing up their antics?

    • not securing your guns is a FEDERAL Offense

      Yeah, unless you’re the Government, then it’s okay to leave billions of dollars worth of firearms, ammo, accessories, Humvees, fighting vehicles, Blackhawks, attack aircraft and a whole fucking Air Base with two runways and a fully functional tower and Radar Air Traffic Control Center to a Radical Islamic fundamentalist terrorist group that runs around all day chanting “Death to America”… Then it’s “oops my bad”, but it’s not a big deal, there are ONLY 75,000 or so of them, what can they do? I would really like to have had a case of those ACOGs and some new night vision stuff, but most of that will wind up in China…

      • It’s all good. The Big Guy said so.

      • 18 U.S. Code § 2381 – Treason

        “Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason…”

        (https)://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2381

        • Too bad no one will EVER face criminal charges for this… UNLESS the Dems put together a “commission” that can somehow pin this on Trump (you know they’ll try) THEN we’ll see a trial….

17. Is McEachin the same guy that was afraid that island would tip over? or was that another stupid democrat politician?

    • With millions of people owning gunms, it’s my concern, my concern is, that with everyone buying safes, safes for their gunms, safes are heavy, it’s my concern with everyone buying safes America will become to, to heavy and capsize.

      • That never fails to make me laugh.

18. well, reading the comments has certainly solidified one things.

    The government wont stop, and we Will be in open rebellion sooner rather than later.

19. So, we are going to hinge the US Constitution on companies that manufacture safes. Lol…too much intelligence!

    These people are crazy. They tried this using Facebook in New York for background checks.

20. What gunms?
    No they didn’t drowned, I sold them all before the universal background check thing to a guy named Richard, go talk to him, oh I forgot he died last year. Well so much for that. No gunms no gunm safes, cant help you sorry.
    .
    When Americans fear their government it’s time to change the government that promotes that fear.
    Dictatorship and freedom do not go hand in hand.

21. So what was the sneaky bit about the PLCAA?

    • Brushing your teeth and rinsing your mouth twice a day helps to control placka.

22. Larry Keane you FLUNKED the test on constitutionality of safe storage laws. Do your HOMEWORK next time.

    quote———————-Fast forward and Rep. McEachin introduced H.R. 4836, the Firearm Owners Responsibility and Safety Act. The fact that the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in Heller in 2008 that Washington, D.C.’s, mandatory storage requirement for firearms while in the home violated the U.S. Constitution doesn’t seem to matter to Rep. McEachin.————quote

    Constitutionality of Safe Storage Regulation
    Arguments that safe storage laws would necessarily violate the Second Amendment, as established in District of Columbia v. Heller, 554 U.S. 570, 128 S. Ct. 2783, 171 L.Ed.2d.637 (2008) are unavailing. In Heller, the United States Supreme Court considered a challenge to the D.C. law that “totally ban[ned] handgun possession in the home,” 23 and “require[d] that any lawful firearm in the home be disassembled or bound by a trigger lock at all times, rendering it inoperable.” 24 Ultimately, the Court held that law-abiding, responsible citizens have a right to keep a handgun in the home for self-defense. 25 At the same time, Heller made clear that the Second Amendment is not unlimited, and laws restricting commercial sales are permitted. 26 Under this framework, the Court held that D.C.’s law was unconstitutional because it required residents to render their handguns completely inoperable, thereby infringing the Second Amendment right to self-defense. In contrast, Courts across the country have routinely found that safe-storage laws that require practices such as keeping firearms in locked containers or using trigger locks do not infringe on self-defense rights.

    In 2014, the Ninth Circuit, for example, upheld a safe storage law, San Francisco Police Code section 4512, noting that “[u]nlike the challenged regulation in Heller, section 4512 does not substantially prevent law-abiding citizens from using firearms to defend themselves in the home. Rather, section 4512 regulates how San Franciscans must store their handguns when not carrying them on their persons.” 27 The Ninth Circuit, therefore, found that requiring people to store their handguns “in a locked storage container or with a trigger lock when not carried on the person is substantially related to the important government interest of reducing firearm-related deaths and injuries.” 28 Ultimately, the U.S. Supreme Court declined to review the decision, so the Ninth Circuit’s reasoning still stands.

    In addition to San Francisco, several other cities and states have also passed safe storage laws that courts have likewise upheld. In 2010, for example, the Massachusetts Supreme Court upheld a state law requiring firearm owners to either secure weapons in a locked container or equip them with trigger locks “does not require that firearms in the home be rendered and kept inoperable at all times and does not prohibit a licensed gun owner from carrying a loaded firearm in the home” it does not violate the Second Amendment right to self-defense.” 29 And in 2012 a New York court found that a New York City law requiring firearm owners to render weapons inoperable by using a safety lock when they are not in possession of the weapon did not violate the Second Amendment, noting that “[u]nlike Heller and McDonald v. City of Chicago, 561 U.S. 742 (2010), New York City’s ‘statute and regulation do not require a licensee to keep any firearm in his possession unloaded and locked.'” 30

    Respectfully submitted,
    Joshu Harris, Chair
    Standing Committee on Gun Violence
    February 2020

    Addendum:

    Certainly the horrific deaths on average of 1,300 children each year and many more times the permanent crippling’s influenced the courts after the Heller Decision to modify it.

    • “Certainly the horrific deaths on average of 1,300 children each year and many more times the permanent crippling’s (sic) influenced the courts after the Heller Decision to modify it.”

      To be clear- you are posting a stat claiming that an average of 1300 American children die from ACCIDENTAL (and somewhat-likely, preventable) shootings every year in the US??

      From what reliable source are you coming up with this stat?

      Quote and document, please.

      My research would show your number claim would HAVE TO INCLUDE the intentional deaths caused by gangbangers/juvenile hoodlums and would also include “children” up to the age of 21 in these cases- hardly children, more like hardened criminal sociopaths…

      • quote————–To be clear- you are posting a stat claiming that an average of 1300 American children die from ACCIDENTAL (and somewhat-likely, preventable) shootings every year in the US??———————-quote

        Come on quit playing Right Wing smear games. The 1,300 figure is found on quite a few accredited news sites just bother to google it. Again quit paying games even a child can look it up in minutes.

        Below is one of many links on the 1300 figure and you are trying to insinuate that when kids kill kids it would not be prevented. Well it can whether we are speaking of mass murder or drug gangs as all too often the drug gang kids and or mass murderers get their guns right from home. News reports are full of examples.

        https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/nearly-1-300-kids-killed-guns-each-year-study-finds-n774086

        And now you are playing the numbers game. Example: The Far Right claim that if only 1,299 kids are gunned down instead of 1,300 that is acceptable because if we have not reach the saturation point so then “who cares its all irrelevant”, well try saying that to grieving parents.

        Children are rarely hurt or killed by guns in other developed countries, the researchers pointed out.

        More than 90 percent of all children aged up to 14 who are killed by guns in high-income countries are killed in the U.S., they noted.

        “Firearm-related deaths are the third leading cause of death overall among U.S. children aged 1 to 17 years, surpassing the number of deaths from pediatric congenital anomalies, heart disease, influenza and/or pneumonia, chronic lower respiratory disease, and cerebrovascular causes,” Katherine Fowler of CDC’s Division of Violence Prevention and colleagues wrote.

        And note that many murders including mass murders (stoneman, douglas highschool Florida, Sandy Hook etc, etc.) happen because Children have easy access to loaded guns left unattended so yes LIVES DO MATTER EXCEPT OF COURSE TO THE FAR RIGHT who prove that to them life is cheap and expendable whether it be from lack of affordable health care or children’s lives lost because of irresponsible Right Wing Adults who are to lazy and shiftless to keep deadly weapons locked up.

        P.S. I know you will start screaming about age in the two mass murders by deranged young people I mentioned but these young people were under the supervisor and care of adults who failed in their responsibility to keep guns locked up. So what the hell does it matter whether the deranged kid was 17 at Sandy Hook or even 20 as in the Florida shooting. The guns were there for them to use. Will the grieving parents at Stoneman Douglas say “Gee I do not feel so bad because the kid who killed students was not 17 like at Sandy Hook, he was 20 so who cares.

        I would say the insanity of it all is that these days mass murder and kids getting killed at home with loaded guns are now considered everyday normal.

        You were insinuating that murders of kids by kids could not be prevented. Hogwash, no law is perfect but Far Right insanity screams you must throw out the baby with the bath water if a gun law is not 100 per cent effective. Give us all a break and admit to reality, the stats of other countries prove we do not value human life as they do whether it be deaths from lack of health care or gun related deaths.

        • You can filibuster all you want around here but your numbers have no sound basis. Accidental deaths and injuries of young people by firearms do not even make it on the radar of the CDC nor NSC and everyone with a clue knows it.

          You can also “mention” as many anomalous incidents as you desire, but the facts are: Firearms accidents among all age groups are at an all-time low in the US, which is really phenomenal considering how many more firearms there are now in the hands of American citizens in 2021 than there were in say, 1968, when the first real US Govt push to turn the US into France or the EU in general started. But I have to hand it to you- posting an NBC News story as proof is pretty good if you’re dealing with the uninformed. Why not something from CBS (emphasize the “BS”)- after all, they also had W Bush’s Nat Guard record, and 60 Min did a Bang UP job on exploding Chevy truck gas thanks. Think it was NBC News years ago that had to get a cop to explode a watermelon with one of his handgun hollowpoints for the video when numerous attempts to create the same scene with an AK 47 clone shooting FMJs would only pass through with little visual affect.

          In the least, Mr. Neuman, come around here with some real figures. And yes, it may be possible to prevent the gangbangers from killing each other, or more likely, unintended passersby, but it would require locking them up before they ever killed or injured someone until they are, say, 35 or so and I’m sure a woke progressive like you seem to be would not favor such measures.

          An even better start would be to lock up the likes of DiBlasio, Lori Lightfoot, Galvin Newsom and other woke progressive leaders in some form of nut house where they could no longer institute policies that literally kill off those for whom they were elected or appointed to represent.

          Looking back, this article concerned the forced safe storage of firearms. Forced or not, no law passed will ever result in thugs, criminals. gangbangers and other outlaws to finally become productive members of civilized society. They are breaking countless laws and regulations long before they break the ones that make it illegal to assault or murder someone. They do this knowingly, willingly and wantonly and you know it.

        • Craig your diatribe would not fool a 5th grader. You are screaming from the rooftops “Its better to do nothing because I am too paranoid to think clearly, logically and sanely”.

          Yes with the usual Far Right ignorance. paranoia and the wave of a hand you scream “Do not confuse me with the facts it does not fit my paranoid political agenda and I do not give a fk how many kids get killed because it did not affect my family”. Normal sane people would be ashamed to make such a statement.

          Dear Political and historical genius did it ever occur to you that in that thimble size cranium of yours that there is a reason every civilized nation on earth has safe storage laws and there is a reason they all have way lower child deaths from firearms or is this getting way to complicated for you. You reject the stats, you reject the history of other countries and you reject pure common sense and all logical thinking as well.

          Tell us dear political genius how were foreign countries able to have such success and why have we failed to protect our children. Answer: The Far Right regard human life as cheap and expendable, they are too stingy to fund any such programs and above all it is impossible to reason with mentally ill paranoid people.

          And your laughable diatribe on not being able to do anything about crime again proves you are an historical moron. Even the Brady Bill that was raped by the NRA and was only allowed to vet new gun purchases stopped 2.1 million nut cases and criminals from buying new guns over a 20 year period and that is not an up to date count and if it had not be raped by the NRA it would have vetted out at least 6 million if it had been legal to vet second hand purchases but you scream again and again “Lets do nothing because nothing will work”. Sorry sane people know otherwise because they have the facts.

          Run now to your room , hide under your bed with your assault rifle and pray the commies do not invade tonight, and hope all the other heavy firepower in all your other rooms does not fall into the hands of kids or criminals and if it does “Who cares I am safe in my bunker and I touch no one and no one touches me”. What a way to live, if you can even call that living, sane people do not.

          Quote——————Looking back, this article concerned the forced safe storage of firearms.————quote

          Again your paranoia forces you to twist the facts to your own agenda. In other states that already have such civilized laws you can indeed keep a loaded gun on your person and in many you can keep a loaded gun locked in a safe which if you do not lie your head off, as usual, the weapon can easily be accessed in only a couple of seconds at most and if the law says it must be unloaded dear genius how long does it take to slam a magazine in a pistol or rifle?????

          Again only the sane people realize that being invaded in your home is really a rare occurrence as criminals usually wait till they are damn sure no one is home, they are cowards and are not about to storm an armed hornets nest. They do not even know the lay of the house so to argue that you would not have enough time to access a firearm is only the ratings of a person suffering from the usual Far Right paranoia. Its totally impossible to argue with such people who are totally off their rocker.

        • Too much to bother reading when you cannot provide adequate, provable and acceptable statistics nor real sources.

          If firearms accidents and safety were really issues confronting the American people, all of the Draconian measures being proposed here and more would have become law long ago. “Firearms safety measures” is just the most recent of a long litany being tried out by leftist bedwetters- literally throwing any and everything up against the wall and hoping it’ll stick.

          It used to at least scare some of the suburban soccer mom-types but the woke rioting of 2019-20 killed that off. After seeing these creeps coming into their own neighborhoods rather than just watching them invade someone else’s on the TV news that would report them turned believers into tens of thousands who would have never considered buying a firearm for any purpose. These chicks are now some of the biggest customers for self-protection firearms and training.

          What- you worry?

          You’re losing and you know it. If not, there’s always lithium…

23. Yeah, mandatory “Safe storage” laws did such a great job for the Carpenter family in Merced, California…

    • Hey, another $26.55 and a mouthfull for “cut’n’paste, now gimme’ a taste” dacian.

      • LMFAO! Good Lord, get ’em Pb!

        • We now return to our regularly scheduled idiot…..

    • quote——————The Rookie August 19, 2021 At 23:37
      Yeah, mandatory “Safe storage” laws did such a great job for the Carpenter family in Merced, California…——————quote

      Brilliant comment. According to your warped philosophy we should also do away with laws against murder, rape and robbery because they too do not work 100 per cent of the time either.

24. When politicians try and put into law things that have already been deemed unconstitutional, they should be held personally responsible for the Legal fees to sue to overturn it.

25. No background check needed? They knew one month ahead did nothing to secure weapons. But the satanic libby pedophiles want your guns?

    Today the Taliban have American Assault rifles with thermal sights and night vision goggles thanks to Joe Biden and his woke generals.

    Dont forget the RPGs!!

    Fully automatic weapons folks for free!!!

    While oh that nasty AR with a pistol brace you can’t have.

    • Not to mention a few hundred shoulder fired SAMs and who knows how many drones…. The Pentagon says MEH… they don’t know how to use half that shit, guess what Geniuses, the Chinese and the Russians do… And they’ll be happy to show their new found buddies exactly how that shit works…

      • Probably the U S A will be tied up in a War with Muslim terrorists and China will take Taiwan.
        9 11 didnt slap America hard enough. As crazy as it sounds I believe a War on American soil would bring back the unity in United?? We could only hope.

        • War on American soil would bring back the unity in United

          Doubtful, groups like Black Liars & Murderers, ANTI Freedom Assholes, Democratic Socialists and American Communist party would likely side with invaders… I would just get to my mountain shack and anyone that advances on my property without notifying me first will be fair game and I will continue to get them til they get me… I will not go quietly…

        • “As crazy as it sounds I believe a War on American soil would bring back the unity in United?”

          I hope not. It might be very difficult to decide with whom one should b doing battle… My sister, for example, would not be on “my side”…

26. Dang, Cosby lost a lot of weight in prison.

    • LOL that made me laugh.

27. “Every age and generation must be as free to act for itself in all cases as the ages and generations which preceded it. The vanity and presumption of governing beyond the grave is the most ridiculous and insolent of all tyrannies.”
    –Thomas Paine

28. We need the Safe Storage of Senators and Congressmen, for their wayward mouths have killed more people through our history than privately owned guns have.

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