Of all the liberal media wailing over last Tuesday’s win by Donald Trump in the presidential election, an analysis posted at Huffpost.com was perhaps the most interesting—mainly because while bemoaning what a Trump presidency might mean for gun control, the outlet did a good job outlining why most gun owners supported the former president.
In the piece headlined “What A Trump Win Means For Guns” and under the subhead “The election deals a major blow to the movement to reform gun laws,” author Roque Planas started by perpetuating a lie that most in the “mainstream” media use quite often.
“The movement to expand gun rights gained further momentum Tuesday as voters returned Donald Trump to the White House,” the story stated. Of course, gun rights don’t need any expansion. The problem is that many government entities don’t recognize the Second Amendment. Forcing governments to recognize that doesn’t expand rights; it simply ensures the Second Amendment receives the respect it deserves.
The Op-Ed continued: “Trump’s election promises to make the burgeoning Second Amendment movement stronger. On the campaign trail, Trump promised to roll back the few executive-level reform efforts that President Joe Biden attempted to push through using the ATF’s rulemaking authority.”
Of course, that’s also a good thing. From the “pistol brace” rule to redefining who is “in the business” of selling guns, these rules should be rolled back, and sooner instead of later.
The story also bemoans: “While Trump’s election dooms already-stalled reform efforts at the federal level for another four years, it remains an open question how a second Trump White House will shift the debate.”
Over the weekend, that “open question” received a few answers. Trump is promising to sign a national concealed carry reciprocity bill if Congress can manage to pass one. And while the results of the U.S. House election are still coming in, Republicans are getting close to the 218 seats they need to retain the majority and increase the possibility of a reciprocity measure making it to Trump’s desk.
The Op-Ed also pointed out yet another reason most gun owners were in the Trump camp—his pro-2A running vice presidential candidate—and bemoaned the fact that he had once called for abolishing the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF).
“Trump’s running mate, Sen. JD Vance (R-Ohio), however, has built a track record as a gun enthusiast and Second Amendment absolutist whose views may prove influential,” it stated.
“While running for his Senate seat, Vance accused the ATF of spying on Americans by creating a database of gun transactions—a claim that PolitiFact has rated as false.”
The author wrapped up the Op-Ed by quoting the head of a prominent gun-ban group trying to be positive, even though most anti-gun advocates realize they are likely in for a rough four years.
“We know, like the vast majority of Americans, that this should be a country where Americans are free from gun violence,” said Emma Brown, executive director of Giffords Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence. “We have every expectation that the Republicans and Democrats that we have worked with to notch all of these wins over the last decade will continue to work with us to secure that progress that is supported by the vast, vast majority of Americans because it is lifesaving and needed.”
In the end, what was intended to be a scare piece for gun-control advocates was yet another good explanation of why Americans voted the way they did and elected Trump to another four years in the White House.
It’s only twenty seven words long for a reason.
The one way to make the Second Amendment stronger is to make Gun Control weaker. To do that requires Gun Owners to Define Gun Control by its History for the masses who have been led to believe Gun Control is the cat’s meow. Failure to Stand and Define Gun Control by its History is on full display for all to see in this video…connect the h…
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nope.
Thank you for the Colion Noir clip.
It was all about the economy. People are frustrated and desperate. harris/biden destroyed the middle class and allowed millions of illegals to come in and take jobs from the poors.
I went to gas up my car yesterday. 4.10 a gallon. Bad enough in my Toyota. But the guy next to me owned and operated a tow truck. 140 bucks to fill it. He was pissed and sick at the same time.
Guns are important. But without that economic desperation we might have had harris in office.
jwm, I noticed yesterday that gas prices in my county have dropped about .10 cents a gallon since election day. Informal survey, of course. That puts it around $2.80 a gallon if you stay away from the interstate.
Ours was down a dime since the election. Still too high. This is the people’s paradise of CA. A studio apartment will cost you two grand a month.
Be looking for herr newsom to try a run at the white house next.
jdub, huffpo is saying why gun owners voted trunk, not that we put him in office. border, economy and energy, as you said, were undoubtedly the key concerns. as well as an enormous repudiation of legacy media.
We helped to put him in office. But honestly, harris and folks like miner49er did a lot more to put him there.
I was in the Journalism course in MU decades ago. There never really has been a trustworthy mainstream media. Now we have tech that allows us to bypass it altogether. Good for us.
i saw it put as the few informing the many, as opposed to the many informing the many.
The voting public realized they were being gaslighted because what they saw and experienced didn’t match the political rhetoric on crime, cost of living, energy, border security, and illegal immigration.
Watch out for reprisal actions by dacian and miner’s antifa buddies similar in style to Mandalay Bay.
I don’t think I’ve seen an article from Jennifer the last 8 days. Is she somewhere else, busily making a wild screed to post online, like so many others we’ve seen?
She had one 2 daze ago. “Buy a gun” as it were. Anywho it’s not just gats but a myriad # of other issues folks voted for DJT. I for one didn’t want to hear Kamaltoe cackling🙄
cankles voice and the hyena’s cackling are the sources of nightmares.
She could shave her head and cry a waterfall -but swearing off men would be an empty gesture coming from her.
Just one more marxist twit to ignore.
“While running for his Senate seat, Vance accused the ATF of spying on Americans by creating a database of gun transactions—a claim that PolitiFact has rated as false.”
False? Oh yeah?
Is that why the ATF asked for money to increase their capability of digitizing 4473’s into a searchable database?
Is that why ATF shows up at peoples homes, without warrant, months after a purchase to look at guns previously purchased with records from a database of 4473 purchase transaction record that were by law supposed to have been destroyed not longer than 72 hours after the transaction?
Is that why ATF suddenly comes up with some 4473 purchase transaction records over three years old so they could raid the home of and essentially ‘murder’ Bryan Malinowski by use of an ATF created situation with zero probable cause for actual charges or evidence or charges that he had actually committed a crime?
Ya mean all this didn’t happen because the ATF does not have a database of gun transactions and are not using such a database to spy on gun owners?
PolitiFact, facts and evidence rate your ‘false’ as 100% false.
politihacks.
.40 – good rundown BUT ya left out the FACT that the bats admitted fairly recently that they have almost a BILLION (likely more by now) firearm transaction records ‘on file’. Never mind that they are specifically prohibited from establishing and maintaining such a data base.
Well, there are hundreds of examples of the ATF maintaining a database and using it to spy on gun owners but I wanted to keep it short.
And heck PolitiFact, every time the ATF traces a crime gun serial number how do you think they are able to do that..ya think they have some little elves rummaging through stacks of paper looking at each one? The ATF serial number trace time went from ~6 hours in 2020 to less than 5 minutes (if the record is already digitized) in 2023 because they had digitized more records into a database. People say these are just pictures so would not be searchable…that was mostly true in 2020, but in 2022 they started using an OCR set up and now scan the records in such a manner as to be searchable via a database.
The response from ATF on this is…”ATF does not maintain a federal gun registry for firearms that fall under the Gun Control Act, and none of the records ATF maintains relating to those firearms may be used to create such a registry,”
Note the careful use of the word ‘registry’. A “registry”, the term is ambiguous because a “registry” is not defined for the form it can take. So its a safe term to use in such a response because the law says “registry” but doesn’t say the ATF can not have a database not being used as a “registry”.
The specific term Vance used was ‘database’ of gun transactions.
PolitiFact, facts and evidence rate your ‘false’ as 100% false.
clarification for : “…but doesn’t say the ATF can not have a database not being used as a “registry”.
for example, archival purposes. The ATF skirts the “registry” and ‘searchable database’ wording and law by doing it as ‘archival’ which the law does allow them. This is, for example, how they come up with records to visit a person home months or years after a purchase or how they did it for Bryan Malinowski – a searchable ‘archival’ database.
What they’ve probably done is create an index which links to a scanned image, probably PDF, of the 4473 page. The page can then either be visually read or searched using various tools.
It depends on what your meaning of the word “is” is.
Many FFLs now have the 4473 on computer, and the buyer fills it out on a terminal or tablet. Digital right out of the chute now. That’s a couple clicks away from being a database.
THEREFORE do not purchase from such an FFL/retailer. No more Cabelas/Basswhores.
All the FFLs around here use terminals, even the small ones. The last one to use paper was shut down by AFT 3 years ago. AFT is pushing it hard, saying it helps prevent mistakes. That they will use to shut them down.
Note: for those that don’t know what ‘OCR’ is – it stands for optical character recognition.
Clarification for: “but in 2022 they started using an OCR set up”
What I mean for this is wide scale use. Prior to that they did start using OCR, in 2020 after Biden was elected they did start using OCR systems even more. But its use expanded in 2022 to wider scale use as Biden’s declared war on gun owners intensified into a new stage.
The ATF uses high-speed scanners using optical character recognition software (OCR) to scan “gun transactions” records into a searchable database.
When Vance “accused the ATF of spying on Americans by creating a database of gun transactions” – he was being 100% factual. It is true the ATF is ‘spying’ on Americans by creating and using a “database of gun transactions” – American citizen gun owners are Americans too.
And their ‘unsearchable’ database is up and running. I mean how else could they track down the first shooter and gun used by the assassin IN UNDER 30 MINUTES?
BATFE Director LIED to Congress, claiming their ‘database’ was not searchable, and to find an individual transaction would take hours if not days to go through boxes of records.
Politi “facts” has zero credibility.
I thought the ATF wasn’t supposed to be in the rule making business. Did Chevron not make that clear?
Another case of a government doing as they please because they can all the while ignoring the principles of right and wrong.
Moreover, this is evidence that the Washington government does not care about the rights of those who oppose them relative to the 1st, 2nd and 4th amendments.
Worse than that, they choose which of the 27 ratified amendments to abide by, and treat most of the 6 un-ratified ones as gospel – for example, the ERA was never ratified. Then, when a ruling against “Their Side” is handed down, they completely ignore the ruling as ” a product of conservative madmen and women on the bench”. No wonder well over half of the country feels we are sliding ever closer to The Abyss
Trump announces Musk, Ramaswamy to lead new Department of Government Efficiency.
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I might be able to like the idea for awhile, but I wonder how long until it becomes the Department of Government Efficiency Department?
“I wonder how long until it becomes the Department of Government Efficiency Department?”
Nice!
Politifalsenofacts Read and abide by the Second Amendment, stop abrogating the Bill Of Rights.
“Musk, Ramaswamy to lead new Department of Government“
Hilarious, a foreign-born billionaire and a billionaire immigrant anchor baby, I couldn’t make this stuff up!
And an NYC billionaire president, rejoice working folks and bow to your globalist elite masters!
“Tough for Americans? Elon Musk says if Trump wins U.S elections there will be temporary hardship for all
In a dramatic turn for the 2024 U.S. presidential race, Tesla CEO Elon Musk, who has invested over $130 million to support Donald Trump’s campaign, has warned that a Trump victory may bring “temporary hardship” for Americans.
Oct 30, 2024, 11:40:00 PM IST
Tesla CEO Elon Musk, who has pledged over $130 million toward Donald Trump’s 2024 presidential campaign, recently stated that a Trump victory could lead to “temporary hardship” for Americans.”
Gas prices today in West Virginia are $2.44/gallon, we’ll check back in after 12 months of President Elon Musk’s economic policies and see how we’re doing.
“Sam’s Club
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And yet even if everything you said was actually true and how you attempt to portray it we would still be seeing an improvement. Your heros fucked up bad.
Void, is there a particular fact I have listed in my comment that you believe is incorrect? Would you be kind enough to provide a basis for your objection…
I’m not sure why you’re upset, after all God is on your side:
“Former My Faith Votes CEO Charged with Child Porn Possession
The eight felony counts involve images of children as young as 5 to 7 years old.
November 5, 2024
Jason C. Yates, the former CEO of My Faith Votes, has been charged with eight felony counts of possession of child pornography.
Each of the eight charges, filed in McLeod County, MN, carry a maximum sentence of 10 years in prison and a fine of $10,000. They note that Yates has a prior conviction and is a registered predatory offender.“
zuckerberg, gates, soros and many more supported the fascist left. Where did the billion dollars spent in 3 months by harris go? And where did it come from?
Gas, the cheap stuff, is 4.10 a gallon in CA. You know, CA, the state ran by your fascist party.
And yes, it will take Trump some time to unfuck what the fascist left has fucked.
Nice try, liar. Today’s average price of gas is $3.08! It was $2.11/gal on Nov. 21, 2020. Never forget that we had higher gas prices while the Puppet Admin used our Strategic Petroleum Reserve to soften the blow of the high prices! The SPR wasn’t meant for Democrat political campaigns.
This is after Democrats blocked funding when Trump wanted to fill the SPR to the brim with cheap oil! Then the Puppet was installed and brought it down to the lowest levels since 1984! Democrats hate America which means they hate Americans. They only care about political power. Try being honest for a change, Miner.
“Hilarious, a foreign-born billionaire and a billionaire immigrant anchor baby, I couldn’t make this stuff up!”
Hmmm… how odd Miner49er, since you welcome with ‘open arms’ the millions of illegals roaming around the country, tax dollars paying for it, that crossed the intentionally open and insecure border Biden-Harris intentionally set up.
You do know that Musk and Ramaswamy are both actual legal American citizens, right?
“In a dramatic turn for the 2024 U.S. presidential race” Harris and the democrat party suffered a nuclear ass stomping handed out by President Donald Trump.
And you do know that Musk is not and will not be making economic policies, right? Just more of your delusional thinking there Miner49er.
Yes, there is going to be a “temporary hardship” for people due to the economy…the damage Biden and Harris did to the economy with the lies and ‘biden-nomics’ (which my the way Kalama was in charge of implementing) still lingers and the second punch from that is due to arrive soon and that is the “temporary hardship” to which Musk is referring – the hardship as a result of Biden-Harris. Ya see, Biden-Harris were assuring their selves they would win a second term, so ‘biden-nomics’ was rolled out in two stages, the second stage was going to take place, had already been set in motion during their first term to take place during their expected second term so its still going to happen if Trump can’t stop all of it in time.
Kamala Voters Promise to LEAVE THE UNITED STATES After Trump Won!
“There’s a Fox News report out detailing how MORE THAN HALF of Kamala Harris voters are considering leaving the United States of American now that Donald Trump will be the 47th President of the United States.” (note: when you guys leave, individually each of you take an illegal immigrant with you, you really like them so why not..k, thanks.) (and also in video, un-elected bureaucrats in government holding secret meetings to thwart Trump).
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More than half of Harris voters want to relocate following Trump win: survey
Nearly 54% of Harris voters want to move to a different state or country following Trump’s win on Tuesday.
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MSN news ran a story today on how to do just that. But just because they have left doesn’t mean that they’ve renounced their citizenship; unless they do, they still get to vote.
That’s true, and there is such a thing as dual citizenship.
“…un-elected bureaucrats in government…”
i was just reading that the new op push will be to suggest that they represent a fourth branch with an independent source of power enshrined in the constitution.
“…un-elected bureaucrats in government…”
Yep, check!
“Musk, Ramaswamy to lead new Department of Government“
There’s nothing like a foreign born billionaire bureaucrat to Govern America.
So we still flush the traitors and petty tyrants? Your terms are acceptable glowie, hope you aren’t on the chopping block.
“…un-elected bureaucrats in government…”
Garland, Mayorkas, Dettlebach, and hundreds more including the ‘actually employed by’ anti-gun orgs people collecting government tax-payer money paychecks too in that illegally and unconstitutionally acting and deceptively named and secretive (with actions and funding not disclosable and exempt from being accountable to the American people) W̶h̶i̶t̶e̶ ̶H̶o̶u̶s̶e̶ ̶O̶f̶f̶i̶c̶e̶ ̶O̶f̶ ̶C̶o̶n̶s̶t̶i̶t̶u̶t̶i̶o̶n̶a̶l̶ ̶R̶i̶g̶h̶t̶s̶ ̶A̶b̶o̶l̶i̶s̶h̶m̶e̶n̶t̶ White House Office Of Gun Violence Prevention full of self-declared practicing marx -ist social -ists.
Yep, check!
Elon isnt a “bureaucrat”, he’s a US citizen, isnt in any office and he isn’t governing the country. Like Schwarzenegger, he can never be president unless the US Constitution were to be changed, an unlikely event.
There’s a news piece on yahoo news listing the 10 most desirable places for anyone wanting to leave the U S A. #1 Panama and #2 in many ways is of all places Mexico.
After shady voting we now have a new Senate dear leader…All three had warts some more than others…I have no idea who the guy is…
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Glad the Texas corncob didn’t get it.
You have to remember that Thune is a McConnell acolyte.
It was more then the gun control they wanted.
They love to use the content-free word ‘reform’ as a smoke screen for abolishing gun rights.
vaadu
Why would a government by the people for the people fear the people being armed?
Dictatorships or future dictatorships do not want the dictated to be armed.
Kamala said it’s not over, they’ll be back, better prepared next time.
If the BATFE hasn’t got a database of gun transactions [Illegal under Federal law], then how did they manage to identify the owner of the AR-15 used by the shooter in the first Trump assassination attempt IN UNDER 30 MINUTES.
BATFE Director Dettlebach LIED to Congress and BATF has been enthusiastically entering guns and purchasers into a searchable database.
That’s why they want background checks for private transactions.
The first step in a trace is to look up the manufacturer’s information from the serial number. This leads them very quickly to the wholesaler and then the retailer. In this case, the retailer was a closed business, so it wasn’t as if they had millions of records to search or that they had to go locate the rFFL and the paper records; they already had them.
If there is only one agent doing the search, it will of course take days. But if you assign a bunch and hand each one a part of the FFL’s history, it takes a lot less time. I’ve seen these guys working and you would be amazed at to how fast they go through a stack of records or a microfiche file. And of course, if it was an electronic record, that only takes seconds.
“If the BATFE hasn’t got a database of gun transactions [Illegal under Federal law],”
Incorrect.
Its illegal for the ATF to have a database used as a ‘registry’. Its not strictly illegal (its a grey area) for the ATF to have a database for ‘archival’ of ‘gun transactions’ records.
This is how the ATF skirts the law, they call it ‘archival’ and not ‘registry’.
It came down to which you hate worse: inflation, open borders, woke BS, & world on fire foreign policy or Trump. People got a taste of what Democrats wanted, and they hated it. They decided Trump wasn’t so bad after all.
CGA 68, NFA 34, ATF and other laws and agencies are null and void. They violate 2nd amendment, the 14th amendment and the Supremacy Clause.
Hopefully with this group of leadership being installed by Trump will be able to actually read the Constitution
and as they go line by line, agencies and laws not permitted to exist by it will come to mind and be marked for elimination and laws added to make reinstatement illegal, including no surviving agency may digitize or scan any document of any kind related to a peaceable citizen. Presumption is citizen is peaceable until found to not be by a court of law.