When Yugoslavian nationalist Gavrilo Princip plugged Arch Duke Franz Ferdinand in Sarajevo, the follow-on effects were calamitous. To say the least. If Aryan supremacist Mark Colborne had been successful in ventilating the Prince of Wales as he’d planned, it seems safe to say that the reaction would have been a little less dire. As the would-be assassin wrote, “Take down a silent rifle, take up a good stalker potion and put a bullet in Prince Charles’s head. He is protected but not too protected. I would sacrifice my life for that one-shot kill.” . . .
While the biggest problem the UK would likely experience at the news that Charles will never be king might be excessive awkwardly inappropriate celebration, murder is still a crime in The Land of Hope and Glory.
“If I had the right weapon, like a military-grade sniper rifle, I would take out Prince Charles for the sake of the Aryan people,” he wrote. “The first chance I would get, with a rifle, if he crosses my path is to murder Prince Charles.”
Just how Colborne would get his mitts on a rifle given Blighty’s strict gun control is an open question. Rest assured, though, it does happen. He’s currently in the dock at the Old Bailey, where prosecutors are claiming he was planning a mass casualty attack as revenge for being bullied as a kid due to his red hair. Thankfully we don’t have wack-jobs like that over here.
Planning a murder because he was bullied.
Good grief. This just proves he’s insane and should never be in public ever again.
It merely proves that he’s an a$$hole. I’m not so quick to jump to the “insanity” defense. James Eagan Holmes, for example, should be in the death row express line.
I believe in mental insanity but it’s almost a distinction without a difference. I don’t blame a rabid dog for being sick but I don’t try and hug it back to health, either.
Excatly you take it behind the shed and put on in it. Plenty of old yellas being supported by good tax dollars. However much your round of choice is just donating ammo to the cause would help reduce taxes. No sarcasm here dead serious.
Unfortunately for this guy, Aryan supremacy isn’t a fashionable PC cause yet, despite the strong re-emergence of Anti-Semitism in Europe. So he won’t be getting any sympathy from the elites looking to mitigate his actions like the Tsarnev brother.
But, this is a reality that people have been indulged in the “if it makes you feel good” non-judgmentalism for decades now that they will be more lashing out. Take Eliot Rodger and Karl Halverson Pierson for examples. Eliot thought beautiful women should be throwing themselves at him. Reality clashed with his belief and he struck out for revenge for his perceived slights. Karl was demoted or kick off the debate team. So being a good socialist, he decided the way to win was to try to kill his coach and killed an innocent classmate instead.
While each of these individuals are primarily responsible for their actions, the culture enabled their disconnected mindset. Life is unfair. When life was perceived as too unfair for these sheltered coddled individuals, they didn’t think twice about their murderous actions. There are more out there nearing a boil over point.
+1. Another loose screw, just like Elliot Rodgers, the rich kid who was pi$$ed he couldnt get laid. So he laid in wait to knife his room-mates, shot sorority girls on the sidewalk, and drove his BMW over skateboarders in the street in Isla Harbor.
Gavrillo’s bullet had as much to do with the first world war as the Gulf of Tonkin had to do with our escalation in Vietnam. Not a damn bit, other than to make a pretense.
The assassination of the Arch Duke was, as you stated, an excuse for something that was already in the works. The Germans, the Russians and others in the area were all hungry for more land and afraid of the others grabbing land that they thought should be theirs.
Princip was too young (by a month) to receive the death penalty, but he and all six of his co-conspirators were inflicted with tuberculosis. He died in prison in 1918 having never accepted that he had unleashed all that carnage, and he was completely right.
The Prussians had fought a war of expansion every 30-40 years since the 1600s and they hadn’t fought one since 1871. The Austrians had their sights on Serbia. The Russian Empire considered itself the defenders of the Slavic peoples and were allied with France. Briton could have stayed out of the war but the best way for a German army to march into France was through Belgium. Etc. Bottom line is that the war was a war of German and Austrian aggression.
“Briton could have stayed out of the war…”
Yes, they *could* have, couldn’t they? So please remind me again who the war-mongers are…
At least Germany had the obligations of a mutual defense treaty with Austria; what is Great Britain’s excuse?
And for the historical ignoramuses who think the arch duke’s assassination had nothing to do with the war, let me remind you he was next in line to the throne. In essence, the equivalent of a president-elect, for us.
If an assassin, backed by a foreign government, had killed Obama before his inauguration, do you really think we would have done nothing in response?
Learn a little history buddy. Austria wanted to destroy Orthodox Serbia. Russia could not let Austria control Balkans. Germany gave Austria a “blank Check.” France gave Russia a blank check. The UK tried to stay out and even went so far as tell the Germans that if they stayed out of the Channel and at worst technically violated Belgian neutrality they would stay neutral. Germany did more than a technical violation of Belgian territory. This triggered the treaty guarantee of Belgian sovereignty.
You made it too complicated. It was nothing more than a family fued. Same family in Germany Russia and england a bunch of Jewish Germans. Not to say the UK royal family is Jewish they clearly are not but their ancestors were.
It is ironic how they even got into power but then again the helzberg clan was partners with the rothchilds
Wow I didn’t know that Kaiser Bill was a Jew! The crafty Jews stabbing themselves in the back in 1918.
SD3, by your logic it was America and it’s coalition of allies that were the war mongers when we pushed Saddam out of Kuwait. You’re ignoring the invasion and brutalization of a neutral country (Belgium) allied to England. And you’re ignoring the same in Serbia which brought Russia to declare war on Austria. There’s a reason they called them the German and Austrian EMPIRES. In order to be an empire you need to conquer and subjugate other nations. Germany and Austria wanted to seize the Balkans. Small nations cannot exist without being allied to larger nations. England, France and Russia had no interest in expanding their territories.
I’d also add that while the Archduke was the heir to the throne held by his 83 year old uncle, he was not very well liked among the royals at all. He was considered weak for wanting to give the subjugated peoples a greater voice in governance and worse, he married below his station. He was the black sheep of the family. The assassin and his co-conspirators had been captured and brought to justice. There was no reason to invade a foreign country over his death.
Pretty much agree with what you say but Germany called itself and Empire because it was cool. They had little ot no interest in Balkans for its own sake. The Kaiser did hesitate in the end but when Russia mobilized he gave in to the Generals who were working to a very complex railway timetable. Max Hastings tried to prove Germany at fault after all because of the so-called blank check to Austria. His case fails because the French had no real interest in the Balkans but gave Russia and equally blank check to respond to Austria..
Bear in mind the German nation was in itself a Prussian empire. The Kingdom of Prussia had fought for 3 centuries to conquer it’s Germanic neighbors, and that process was only completed with the unification in 1871. Aside from Alsace-Lorraine, Germany’s colonies were overseas, unlike Austria-Hungary which subjugated a number of it’s European neighbors. But it was just as much an Empire as England was.
Germany’s interest in the Balkans centered around the Berlin to Baghdad railway. They didn’t care if the Balkans belonged to them or their ally, Austria. The railway secured Germany’s access to oil and needed to be controlled in it’s entirety by Germany and it’s allies, Austria and the Ottoman Empire. Depending on their ports was problematic because they could easily be closed off by the superior British navy. Serbia needed to be secured.
As far as France’s blank check to Russia, it was a check that probably had to be granted. Even if France and Russia hadn’t been allied it wouldn’t change the fact that Germany was a nation sandwiched between two adversaries with no natural barriers to invasion. France could mobilize much faster than Russia. Germany couldn’t risk peace with France while waging war with Russia for fear that France could wait until Germany was weakened by the Russians and jump in. And France knew Germany couldn’t risk it. A similar situation came up when Hitler decided to invade the Soviet Union. After the failure of the Battle of Britain, Hitler figured he had 2 years (he actually had 3) before England and America invaded France. After they had established a front he figured Stalin would smell Germany’s weakness and invade. So he thought he could take out Russia before the allied landing. This was before we even entered the war, btw. So much of history is dictated by geography.
Sorry, but France did not have to go war over the Balkans. Germany mobilized in response to Russian, not French mobilization. A German move to the West not inevitable if the war was confined to Eastern Europe. It would have been like the Crimean War without French or German involvement. Both Russian and Austria were military incompetent and the war would have bogged down very quickly leading brokered peace. The only competent player in the Balkans was Serbia and the kicked Austria’s butt `1914. Austria moved because the Kaiser said he would back them and Russia mobilized in surety that France would follow suit thus forcing Germany to fight on two fronts.
Now that we, in our superiority, have gone beyond such silly little wars, we have completely unencumbered population growth instead, setting us up for either a pandemic, global starvation, or nuclear war to decrease the number of people on the planet, previously controlled by pissant wars and minor epidemics. Let’s not congratulate ourselves too much, until we discover how much our wonderfulness is going to cost.
Sorry tdiinva, the German Empire was invading France with or without a declaration of war from France, just as surely as it invaded Belgium without a declaration of war from that nation. It was called the Schlieffen Plan. Germany was stronger than France and stronger than the Russian Empire, but wasn’t strong enough to take on both at the same time (which is why France and Russia allied themselves to each other in the first place). However, mobilizing the Russian army would take so long that Germany figured it could crush the French before they could mobilize, avoiding a two front war. The plan would have worked if not for the tenacity of the Belgian forces and the small but well trained British Expeditionary Force. Perhaps if the Prussians had been more conciliatory in 1871 there could have been friendly relations and trust cultivated, but as it was, France and Germany and Russia and Germany had adversarial relationships. France couldn’t trust in Germany’s good will because Germany couldn’t afford to have any.
As far as comparisons to the Crimean War, well there just aren’t any. Russia’s relationship with Turkey was not, is not and can not be anything like Russia’s relationship with Germany. Russia has year round ports in 3 locations, the Baltic – which can be cut off by either Germany or Britain, Vladivostok – 6,000 miles from the European theater, and the Black Sea – at the mercy of Turkey cutting them off at the Bosphorus. France and Britain came to the aid of the Ottomans out of fear that Russia would become too powerful, a reasonable fear given Russia’s advantage in population, territory and natural resources. By 1914 though, Russia had grown weak. When two of your natural adversaries fight one of your other natural adversaries, it’s best to let them duke it out.
I can’t take anything political said by a British subject. They still have “royalty” for chrissake!
Genetics. The Brits smell a Royal and fall to their knees, trembling in ecstasy, waiting to be commanded as a subject. Millennia of selective reproduction, as those with a tendency to say “Now just a damn minute, Chinless McRoyal puts his trousers on one pasty leg at a time just like we do, forsooth!” being shortened by a full head height and no longer able to make more rabble rousers. Over here, once upon a time, genetics dictated that we give a Royal the middle finger and keep firing. I worry that blood is thinning, given the adoration of the current idiot(s) in charge.
Considering that hereditary dictatorships were the norm for the vast majority of nation-states for millennial, I find your conclusion dubious.
eat a snickers. you lose your sense of humor and ability to recognize tongue in cheek when you’re hungry.
I’ve heard people use that as a serious argument, so that was the context I read it in.
As great and insightful the founding fathers were, they somehow neglected to make the article to ban from presidential office direct family relatives and offspring from a previous president. It would have seemed to be even been more relevant back in their era. I wonder if it was discussed.
I’d back that new amendment in a heartbeat.
As brilliant as the founders were, they were blinded by their republican ideals in some ways. I don’t think they saw much problem with family members being elected to the same office, as they assumed the electoral system they designed would prevent dynastic abuses. Also, the office of the President didn’t hold nearly as much power back then – the founders always saw the Congress as the real heart of the government.
I think it would’ve been much more helpful if they had codified their dislike of political parties into the Constitution somewhere. The two-party system has done far more damage than the little bits of nepotism we’ve seen.
John Adams saw the writing on the wall in 1780: “There is nothing which I dread so much as a division of the republic into two great parties, each arranged under its leader, and concerting measures in opposition to each other. This, in my humble apprehension, is to be dreaded as the greatest political evil under our Constitution.”
Everybody knows redheads are souless. I think we also lack the ability to be witty.
I quote my ginger friend: “I’m not soulless. I’ve got tons of souls!” *points to freckles*
If you want to compare an American to the would-be Prince Chuck shooter, why not this redhead?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynette_Fromme
Just one of several loonies ?I mean she is not the only redhead that has tried to off a politician in our country. Our country is not immune to idiots like this.
Ah yes, Squeaky! I occasionally tell people that I own guns because Squeaky Fromme is a free woman. (Yea, I get a few confused looks.)
I like the way it states criminal penalty – Life in prison……criminal status – paroled
Nothing would happen-prince William would be King. They hate Charles because of Diana. Glad we ditched them in the 18th century…
Correction we kicked there sissy a$$es right back to england and their blue blooded inbreed gods
Correction of your correction. Britain decided that India was more important than North America.
France did much to win the war for us. At least they let us watch at Yorktown.
The patriot cause was never supported by more than 1/3 of the population. Most were in the middle waiting to see what would happen.
Amazing, amusing and incredible that the Brits still have their neutered royalty and give them so much adoration. It appears to me that their royals have virtually no political power. Who really cares who is the king or queen of Great Britain ? That said, the guy that wanted to shoot Prince Charles is a crazy idiot with misdirected and irrational hate issues. Lock him up and throw away the key.
Not just adoration but tons of cash too.
I think you would be surprised how much influence the European Nobility still wields from behind the scenes and through Banking institutions, Universities, NGO’s, think-tanks, etc.
Humans love their traditions, cant think of Franz without thinking of the book Unintended Consequences.
Careful, there are several books by that name, with wildly differing subjects.
We’d only notice long enough to make terrible jokes and enjoy excessively awkward inappropriate celebrations.
http://imgur.com/gallery/Yv1OC
http://www2.b3ta.com/fp-archive/host/10812870-1.jpg
It has been said that Prince Charles being crowned King Charles will be the cause of Britain becoming a republic.
Not even the Queen is enthusiastic about Charles replacing her.
Is that why she seems determined to remain queen until Charles is 90 years old?
It was British subjects (colonists) that decided (after many petitions to the King) to dispence with their subject status. So lets stop with the Brit-hate. Perhaps some think it was “U.S. Americans”. Then there was that whole 1066 AD thing. England is in a sorry state today, for sure…but we are not far behind on our current path.
There is no such thing as royalty. I just wish fewer of our own countrymen weren’t fooled by nomenclature.
Like the Clintons? The Bushies?
Brits are sort of like American leftists. They both worship parasites and like to blame America for everything.
I say that with a bit of snark. I do know several Brits who despise their monarchy traditions.
So for the sake of the Aryan people, this bloke would kill an “Aryan” prince. I think I get it.
The man will never be king anyway. Between scandals and general accusations of boobery, parliament wouldn’t accept it. Of course he’s free to do what he wants, but he’s going to be strongly urged to quietly and graciously abdicate the throne to his son William, and he’s going to do it because he’s not the sort of guy to rock the boat. He’s completely irrelevant.
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