We’ve already posted on the confrontation between Utah cattle rancher (and melon grower) Cliven Bundy and the Bureau of Land Management (BLM). Yesterday, Mr. Bundy declared a range war. So far . . . nothing. But reports coming out of the area – including intel from former TTAG contributor and talk show host Bryan Hyde – speak of a huge BLM presence outside the Bundy Ranch. The BLM’s deployed at least 100 agents to round-up Mr Bundy’s cattle from federal lands and ship them off to auction. The feds have called in sharpshooters (not snipers) to aid in their rustling court-sanctioned financial recovery operation. I’m sorry, but that’s insane on all sorts of levels. There are more than a few ways this could go wrong . . .
The BLM is shipping Mr. Bundy’s cattle to northern Utah for auction. Sheriffs in nearby counties are not well pleased with the idea of allowing “stolen” cattle through their jurisdiction. Could you imagine some kind of roadblock by local Sheriffs turning the feds around? I could. Could you imagine that getting out of control? Jesus, I hope not.
Equally, it’s possible that Bundy and his peeps will attempt some kind of rescue operation to recover cattle on federal lands before they’re sent packing to the packing house. In both cases, a confrontation could turn ugly. Bundy is armed, but we don’t know what with. And I hope we don’t find out in unfortunate circumstances.
As I reminded Bryan, keep in mind that Waco and Ruby Ridge happened before the Internet. Back when mainstream media was the media, when the story of federal tyranny could be filtered and forgotten. Those days of electronic “First Amendment Areas” are done.
At the same time, there’s a strong anti-government mood afoot in these United States. Any injury to Mr. Bundy would stiffen the resolve of gun owners in Connecticut, New York and Maryland to [continue to] resist registration. And lead to God knows what.
Watch this space.
Outstanding!
Ok where is the Onyks 89S pistol actually sold here in the US? I only read of this.
Those aren’t snipers, but sharpshooters. Snipers would remain unseen, and are absolutely terrifying… if you’re on the receiving end, that is. Let’s hope it doesn’t come to that regardless.
Not really on topic, but I really love that picture. That little dog looks really happy.
Ammoland uses that same pic sometimes. The URL would indicate it originally came from OCDO, but I’ve never seen it there.
The rate we’re going, pretty soon they’ll be using SWAT raids for tax audits. Nothing much would surprise me at this point.
Yuh. Kind of feels that way.
No way the Bundys are going to win this one, but I hope to God they lose in a courtroom, not in a gun fight.
They’ve lost in the courtroom. They have no further legal recourse.
Which means that the feds have every legal right to do exactly what they are doing, and Bundy has no one to blame for his predicament but himself. He has no “constitutional right” to graze on federal lands for free. Other than the highly questionable “free exercise” zones, there are no constitutional rights implicated by Mr. Bundy’s plainly contemptuous misconduct. This is not a constitutional rights case, but instead a simple property rights dispute that the courts have resolved against him. Game over. Had he exercised his right–and obligation–to remove the cattle from land he had no right to use, there wouldn’t even be an issue as to the cows. He is nothing more than a squatter. He reminds me of all the people who contend that the income tax is unconstitutional–and we know where to find them. (Wonder where Wesley was locked up–I will never understand why he followed the tax avoidance advice of a man who doesn’t practice what he preaches.)
C’mon now. Your google-foo is strong enough to find the particulars of this case.
Well they may be getting ready to attack? Maybe not. You make the call.
If it comes down to an actual gunfight then you can expect the media to be all over it with the Bundys labelled as domestic terrorists and MAIG and MDA will use it to continue their treasonous efforts.
If they moved ten feet to their left the would have concealment. I am betting they are not even LE.
Don’t be so dense. It is obvious that they WANT to be seen. It is called “intimidation.” Moreover, they are not on Bundy’s property, but on federal lands where they have every right to be–and Bundy’s cattle do not.
Yeah. The defenders of this think that their subservience. Look only to Hitler’s German, or Romania.
As soon as the “common people” figure out the nature of this game, there’ll be hell to pay.
WB, what on earth are you talking about. Bundy never owned the land. He did not have a lease on the land. His forebears did not own the land, nor did they have a lease on the land in question. The family simply convinced themselves that they had somehow gained the right to graze cattle on the federal land because they’d gotten away with it for a few years. It might be the worst case I’ve come across of a rancher trying to convert the “Sagebrush Rebellion” politics into a personal land grab. And no, his family was not even in possession, let alone owning title, in 1848.
I certainly welcome this hearing and thank the witnesses for interrupting their schedules, on short notice, I understand, to appear before the State Senate.
However, this is just a political ploy by the Lt. Governor, David Dewhurst, to bolster his 2A bona fides. You see, he got walloped in last year’s U.S. Senate race, losing to Texas hero and 2A palladin Senator Ted Cruz.
This year, running for re-election to his curent Lt. Gov. office, he drew several challengers in the GOP primary last month. He finished a distant 2nd, but with no man gettinh a majority, that showing forced a run-off next month. He lost last year in a run-off against Sen. Ted Cruz, and that was with Dewhurst having led in the primary.
He’s had decades and decades to act on 2A issues and Dewhurst has done jack squat. This is a hail Mary pass by a dssperate career politician who doesn’t have the sense to retire with dignity.
“However, this is just a political ploy by the Lt. Governor, David Dewhurst, to bolster his 2A bona fides.”
That was my take on this as well.
He was told 2 decades ago that he was not longer able to graze his cattle there. He spent 2 decades thumbing his nose at the law. That it took the Feds 2 whole decades to get around to enforcing on it is the sad part.
Too bad so sad he should have followed the rules.
No, he’s not “Cheering President Obama”. He’s merely stating some relevant facts. Here’s another one – not too long before our War for Independence, John Adams DEFENDED a group of English Soldiers who fired on a crowd of people (and killed several). Adams argued the soldiers were justified in firing, based on the circumstances. He argued self defense. Did this make John Adams a stooge of the crown? No. He merely valued right and principle over partisan arguments.
That’s what WE need to do.
And Bundy has kind of been breaking the law for, oh, 20 years now. This isn’t his land that he’s being forced off of.
His family has been on that land for over 100 years. Only 20 years ago the BLM told him that he couldn’t graze his cattle there anymore. The government’s court agreed with the BLM. Who is in the wrong here? I would say the EPA and the BLM are overreaching, and that Mr. Bundy decided 20 years ago that he would not comply with an unlawful seizure of his property rights. This is an “eminent domain” issue, and the government’s reasons are not adequate to justify it.
Can’t escape that escalation feeling. Its like everythings picking up the pace to get it on.
I don’t like this one bit.
Question not being asked:
Why does the BLM have teams of snipers/designated marksmen/sharpshooters?
Did I miss something somewhere? I mean…Social Security has armed personnel, NOAA has armed personnel, the BLM (apparently) has armed personnel.
Do *all* government agencies now have sworn (presumably) officers in their employ?
WTF, over?
Just hope they do better than the idiots in AL, we have “open carry” without a permit. But you still can not have your loaded pistol in your vehicle without a permit, so if you want to walk everywhere you go I guess you are okay. Makes absolutely no sense at all, other than the fact that the Sheriffs didn’t want to lose all the revenue collected from the sale of CCW permits!! Good Luck in TN!! Maybe your lawmakers have better sense, but I wouldn’t really count on it.
I’m not really following the case, but it seems that if it’s federal grazing land, then it’s their property to do with as they please. If the rancher’s permit was not renewed, then who is he to trespass and keep grazing on someone else’s property?
As for the one in custody, I don’t know the details, but it seems they should charge him or release him. The way the reporting has been, it makes it sound as though he’s been hauled off to Gitmo or spirited away overseas to some CIA rendition facility and held incommunicado.
How was he able to open or conceal carry in Yosemite? That’s located in California
So you can’t do whatever you want on property that isn’t your own?
Weird…..
Cows, ranchers, sharpshooters…. its all quite the mess.
What bothers me the most about this whole issue, and that picture above sums it up best…… First Amendment Area?
So not only do our rights have limits, but they can turned on or off in certain areas? Or confined to this area or that area but not in between?
WTF!
is that first amendment picture real? i thought that was a photoshopped joke.
It is real, I’ve seen some coverage of this on the local news, since it’s been drawing some controversy here in Utah. The people the sharpshooters are pointing at were outside the cordoned off First Amendment Area where they were allowed to protest or record the governments actions, which is why they were being tracked with rifles. Those cameramen can count themselves blessed Lou Horiuchi doesn’t work for the BLM.
Nope (Lon) Horiuchi works (last I heard) for the statist wheel-cog known as H-S Precision. They sell mainly to the jackbooted crowd, and are quite proud of their resident assassin as their marketing boy.
http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/sandoval-chastises-blm-its-atmosphere-intimidation
It is also bothering the governor of our state. To me this is the biggest problem, the federal government restricting our First Amendment rights to freedom f assembly by using ARMED forces.
I may be forced to move to Texas soon if this passes. All my wife’s family is there.
Feds….Imagine that…..
I’m a fan of the caliber. That said, I found the handgun grip to be uncomfortable. It’s just a bit too big for me to get a comfortable grip. My PS90 now is a different story. I love that rifle.
Can somebody please explain WTF a “First Amendment Area” is?
Came about a decade ago under Bush II. They were called “Free Speech Zones” miles away from his appearances, where those who disagreed with him were kept behind chain-link to voice their opinions.
I loved my FDE FiveseveN and OD PS90 combo. I loved selling them for $7200 during the height of the derpitude even more. I always said I’d buy again when the prices came back down (they have) but have found other items more interesting (for now).
The thing that’s great about both are the ultra-fast followup shots….you can easily point shoot and walk your rounds in like you can with a 22LR. At $.45/rd, that’s probably not the most fiscally responsible way however.
FN Five-seveN: recoils like a 9, but sounds like a full-house 10.
gander prices are high. if they wanted to sell more guns/stuff they would price them at market/lower prices.
Got that right. The store in my area is way overpriced on firearm. Used are typically twice what should be. Maybe they want to dicker? Overpriced shotgun ammo by the case and the rest of the shelves filled with empty 7.62 steel ammo cans @ $20ea
Ding ding ding! Where I live, there’s a Gander Mountain in the same shopping center as a Cabela’s. The latter is always doing much more business, so much so that I’m not sure how the Gander Mountain store stays open. I go into the Gander Mountain much less, and have hardly bought anything from them, and everyone else seems to be doing the same.
GM has pretty much the highest prices on guns of anyone in my area, as well.
Gander isn’t too prominent in Texas. There are only about three locations in the greater Houston area. I wouldn’t expect one on every corner, but still.
You guys are right, they are expensive, which I’ve never understood. They have huge gun inventories even in just their regular stores. The entire back wall is a counter, plus half of the adjacent wall, too. New and used. Yet, they’re always a good 10-20% higher than Academy right down the street for common models.
Their ammunition is expensive, too, but they do seem to have the widest variety out there, in terms of brands, calibers and type. My experience with their shotgun shells is different, though. Very affordable whether in bird or buck sizes.
One big plus for Gander, though, is that their stores here have little conference/training rooms. They make these available for free to, among others, local Friends of the NRA groups for meeting, planning events, etc.
I have a hard time seeing how Gander stays in business. The one closest to me is across the street from an Academy Sports, within a few miles of a Bass Pro shops and god knows how many WalMarts are nearby. Every one of those stores (even Bass Pro!) completely spanks them on price.
I was looking for a limb saver recently… WalMart – $21, Academy – $29, Gander – $39. That kind of price discrepancy is pretty much across the board at Gander Mountain. Nice place to browse, considering the selection and the fact that the one near me is usually never busy, but it would take a hell of a deal to get my to buy something.
Having been raised on a farm and dealt with zoning restriction being placed after ownership happened, and a few illegal actions on the land, I have great sympathy for folks who are told by govt how to use their property . Until the people get fed up and change things one way or the other.
Due process is only for those damn 1%ers.
Mr. Bundy had due process. He had his day in court. He lost. Don’t try to make this out to be something it isn’t.
In Oregon in the 80’s there were bumper stickers you would see occasionally in rural parts of the state. They said: Poland has Martial Law, Oregon has LCDC. This event reminded me of that.
http://www.oregon.gov/LCD/pages/lcdc.aspx
I have two Five-seveNs. It’s my carry gun 95% of the time. The other 5% is a .45 ACP or .40 S&W depending on circumstances.
As for ammo prices, I buy cases when I can get it for $0.30 – $0.35 a round (FN 197SR plinking ammo). Unfortunately FN had some manufacturing slowdowns for a while, then the whole Obama/Sandy Hook thing happened and everything dried up. I still have about 1,000 rounds left, but need to replenish soon. I use EA ammo for SD.
It’s plentiful around these parts. My last case was I think 20 bucks a box.
Even the local department store has plenty. But their price is 25 a box.
Well, I’m sure that this continuing prohibition will most definitely stop the next whacko from opening fire on a military base… I mean, after all, it’s written right there in black & white (and all CAPS no less) that he’s simply NOT allowed to have guns on base!!
So take that, you mass shooter!!
According to the LA Times website “Though initial reports indicated the injured officer was wearing a ballistic vest when he was hit, LAPD Officer Bruce Borihanh said Tuesday that was not the case. Beck later said a mushroomed bullet led police to believe a vest had stopped one of the rounds.
Instead, Beck said, the bullet hit a backup pistol in the officer’s left pocket.
It was “truly a miracle,” the chief said. “Having that backup gun saved his life.” ”
(Just not in any way he likely ever imagined.)
I’m a leftist who loves guns.
Rule #1 of how the world works: The law don’t mean shit if you have the right friends.
This rancher does not have the right friends.
Therefore the people who do have the right friends will be able to make happen whatever it is they want to have happen to his property and person.
Unfortunate, but there is nothing new under the sun.
Reading other news reports on this, the BLM folks are saying they have been getting threats and the contractors hired to move the cattle have received threats, hence the show of force.
Believe it, or not. Question the Fed’s tactics if you like. But there’s more to this than a bunch of gov’t thugs beating up on an old white guy.
No one has fired a shot so far. Let’s pray cooler heads prevail on all sides.
Local towns people should deny the feds gas, food and lodging and any other support they need.. make it as hard for them as they can…
Carry cross draw @ 2:00. Being LH, works great seatbelted in vehicle, hides well in CCW. I have done some quick draw in shoot outs, (tournament) on left hip. In real life the guy that makes the first move WINS every time. In my younger years we practiced this method and almost every time the guy that makes the move is the guy that goes home. So carry where is best suited for yourself. Be safe and watch out for the BG.
Oh my word, that anti-gun Senator… He can’t honestly be that ignorant unless he works at it, can he?
I feel that if the Feds don’t back their arrogant asses down , that they will cause a situation that will probably end up in a true range war , but of course they will blame it on the citizens , that they will undoubtedly have to fire upon due to them being pushed too far , I used to be a deputy and I can tell you that I did not like having to work with about 90% of these bureaucrats at all , they walk all over everyone’s rights and don’t care because they have the big government behind them , but more people are waking up to this federal abuse of citizens rights in this nation , there is the push now from every direction trying to force the people to bow to the will of the power hungry in DC . Be prepared and ready . Keep your powder dry .
Listen closely; “I pay more taxes to have less freedom” the highest taxed areas in the US have the most restrictions on its people. NY; Stop and frisk. NJ: 10 round restriction. Commifornia; Micro stamped firing pins ? The only people who need to be controlled are the angry liberals that are all pi$$y over us not doing what they say. Look at Arizona, where I am. It is the gun friendliest state in the country. Phoenix is also the 5th or 6th largest metro area. We don’t have traveling actors making movies to take our freedoms. WAKE UP MY BROTHERS AND SISTERS !
Almost there just need their state House and the governor to sign off on it ,then it will be a done deal , as for most other states ,it will come in time . Be prepared and ready . Keep your powder dry .
I would like to inject a bit of reality here. Most posts don’t indicate personal experience.
A friend brought his Marlin 15Y 22 mag to the range. He was firing 22 LR in it for quite a bit. I noticed the swollen cases and checked the barrel markings. sure enough, 22 LR in a 22 MAG. No explosion, no split cases, nothing unusual at all. Even decent accuracy. He’s had it for years and never used anything except 22 LR.
We corrected him, warned him to clean it out and check for a carbon build up. After cleaning no problems were noted.
I just watched a video on gunblast.com where a Little Badger in 22 MAG was repeatedly fired with 22 LR with no problems. He did point out the swollen cases but no problems came up. I suspect that the company uses a 22 LR blank for both calibers. Cost point almost demands it.
I just got my Marlin 982S 22 MAG bolt action, clip fed rifle out and checked. It will cycle 22 LR & shorts. Even mixed magazine fills. I will take it to the range and try it for myself. I expect it to work fine. I suspect accuracy will be average at best. Marlin probably used a 22 MAG blank because it is a more expensive rifle.
I like to make my own informed decisions based on best advice, logic & safe testing.
I reload “NONRELOADABLE” steel (Wolf) and aluminum (Blazer) cases. If they have a single flash hole, I reload them. I carefully tried the 45 ACP cases in a Ruger New Model Blackhawk because of its strength. Aluminum reloads once. Steel reloads 3 times.
I also had a container to store all the powders I didn’t mark properly for later disposal. I mixed it 50-50 with Bullseye and loaded up some midrange 38 SPL rounds using Bullseye data. I reasoned that Bullseye is the fastest powder I use, so it should be fine. It worked great. I fired the loads in a 357 just to be safe. I was able to reload 38 SPL in the middle of the ammo drought.
Do I recommend you trying it? NO! My guns, my components & me trying it out. Was it unsafe? I don’t think so. But I have reloaded for 40 years and I reload for over 50 calibers. I’ve had to come up with loads for obsolete calibers and make my own cases out of available brass.
Now, having said all that: use the right ammo and be safe.
P.S. I am also an NRA Certified Instructor and I teach use the right ammo!
I’m bored, so I’m gonna say it again: CREATE A TAX CREDIT FOR THE ONE-TIME PURCHASE OF A UL/DOJ APPROVED GUN SAFE. If the safe comes with a tax credit, it would be cheap if not practically free. If it’s practically free, why not buy one. If you have one, why not use it. If you use it, kids and burglars won’t have access to your guns. QED accidental shootings and stolen guns go down. The government pisses away trillions on dollars on useless bullshit. This might actually make an appreciable difference. More so than the $10K for a friggin hybrid.
“sold both Fort Hood shooters their guns ”
Presumably, they had their proper permission slip from Der Fuehrer, right?
/sarc
That super slo mo was totally bitchen.
That support stand was hit around 5 times while that ear piece was spinning in the air. Way cool.
GM is about the only large gun shop in my area. Prices on guns aren’t too bad, in fact I got a few good deals on a pump shottie and lever action rifle. Selection ain’t bad but ammo prices are a total ripoff. Walmart and Bass Pro are way, way cheaper. About the only ammo I buy from GM are the 7.62 spam cans. Still high but competitive once you figure in shipping.
Once nicety is they have the GM academy training facility and it is the cat’s meow. Virtual range, live fire range, shoot/don’t shoot VR simulator room, classrooms, etc. Even our local LEO’s use it because its just that good.
I’m sorry, I just don’t understand how the federal government can own land. Shouldn’t this land belong to the state? And shouldn’t the state auction the land off to private individuals… or something?
The federal government has no business owning land.
Its kind of nuts, seems like over a 1/3 of Nevada is owned by the federal government. Everything not owned was given to the feds when Nevada became a state.
http://nationalatlas.gov/printable/images/pdf/fedlands/NV.pdf
If you buy one you will be very pleasantly surprised .
Gander Mountain prices are high, often above MSRP, but they do have some good sales and exclusives.
I like the FiveseveN, often carry it. I would like a bolt gun for it.
Agree with the Tokarov, a modern pistol for it would be great.
I’ve been to 3 GM’s in Pennsylvania, and each looked like the other, empty shevles, torn up floors, bad lighting. It looked like they bought existing stores, put up some pretty signage out front and then didnt spend a dime inside. They definitely didnt look like the one pictured!
I have not registered my girlfriend…or my golf clubs
Where does the US CONSTITUTION talk about dogs or cars? Its VERY clear about SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED. Nowhere does it say you have the right to have a car or dog, but arms…YES, its VERY clear about that issue.
Was it one of those dreaded hi-capacity assault knives? I hear that they
NEVER run out of ammo! The horror, the horror.
Sad thing is that even though this is a tragedy the anti-gunners will use this to say ” see only 20 people got injured nobody died because he did not use a gun if he did it would have been way worse” to them death is the only thing that matters if they can’t dance on graves then its not important
Wow, really..I don’t know how you can equate the two weapons. If the kid with the knife had a semi-automatic weapon, there could have been many, many more deaths. Some kind of twisted logic, more weapons in a school make everyone safe.
Twisted logic is when more bad guys have weapons, it makes everyone safe. When bad guys have weapons, and thus more weapons are introduced as good guys have them to counter bad guys, then folks are safer.
When you need a new safe to make room for more.
1: You use Hoppe’s #9 for cologne
2. You have buckets of empty brass, but you don’t have a reloading press……yet.
3. You can’t remember birthdays, anniversaries, phone numbers, or half of your in-laws names but you can describe all the world’s small arms, calibers, years of service, and relative effectiveness without hesitation or having to crack open a reference manual.
4. A sexy, beautiful woman asks you “Is that a gun in your pocket, or are you just happy to see me?”. Sadly, you have to tell her it’s a gun.
Did the stabber buy his Ginsu on the Internet — without a background check? Thought so.
Robert – You need to redact the phone numbers in the MSG.
This is about the stupidist dumbest most progressive indoctrinating crap that I have seen from these progressive losers in about, well, about 15 minutes.
When someone tries to insult you by calling you a gun nut, and your only reaction is “K. And?”
Since he’s technically been “on” the land “illegally” in full view of the injured party (Feds) for 20+ years and nobody has done jack until now, can he invoke Squatter’s Rights?
A big nod to Georgia Carry who fights every day to RESTORE 2nd amendment rights in Georgia to law abiding citizens.
BTW some corrections you can have a concealed carry permit without target practice permit.
But is pointless since it let’s you have only 3 guns and buy only 50 bullets a year for all 3 guns….
The cost for a target practice permit is just 10$ after spending 100$ for the basic weapon license everybody pays 10$ for the benefit of buying as many guns as you want and as many ammo as you want and letting you carry it in the trunk without a police chief permit.
Additionally conceal carry lawyers are not on shortage they are practically in every county/city the cheapest one charging 650$ for his legal fees + the 200$ for the conceal carry permit fee for the state. Additionally you can do the process pro se. Without a lawyer but I tried it and the judge basically asked me how much I earn/what do I work on. When I told him software engineering he said yeah you have to pay a lawyer… I didn’t feel like arguing with him but his making sure his good buddy lawyer friends are getting customers.
You can acquire all 3 licenses for 1,120$ it’s expensive for what the cost should be (free) but is not thousands of dollar.
Have a standing offer to live in PR for very little $. After reading this article there is NO f@@@ing way. Oh well I probably couldn’t handle tropical weather.
I have better ideas for Archie`s demise. Killed by a terrorist bombing or killed by a drone strike after posting statements online not pleasing to the government.
I’m going to agree with the ATF. Don’t agree with when they came to the conclusion or how they enforce it. Post raid explanation and confiscation shows weak leadership.
The biscuit, ID’s what material to remove without jigs. The 2 step molding process establishes that the second injection in fact molds around the biscuit and creates a clearly defined cavity.
The standard 80% unit has no cavity or clearly marked area to cut.
Personally I agree, but it’s probably more of a way to fuel us gun nuts into buying 100x more ammo and supplies than we need. I have bought like 2,000 rds of bullets over the last two years because they are out of stock most of the year. if I live another 60yrs I will never shoot 1k rds of 270, 308, and buckshot. Even if doomsday came to pass, I would probably starve before killing 2,000 of my plundering neighbors. We are dumbasses scared into buying far more guns/ammo than we need.
I spent 29 years in the Army. I still get pissed off when I read directives that are idiotic and that’s before I get beyond the fact I don’t like the premise.
3.A.6. IN ALL CASES, PRIVATELY OWNED FIREARMS WILL BE STORED IN A FULLY ENCASED CONTAINER (E.G. COMMERCIAL GUN SAFE, HARD PLASTIC CASE, ETC.) THAT IS CAPABLE OF COMPLETELY ENCLOSING THE FIREARMS AND BEING LOCKED WITH A KEY OR COMBINATION LOCK. ALL FIREARMS WILL BE FITTED WITH A TRIGGER LOCK.
3.A.7. AMMUNITION MUST BE STORED SEPARATELY FROM FIREARMS AND IN A CONTAINER CAPABLE OF BEING LOCKED WITH A KEY OR COMBINATION LOCK.
So, trigger lock and then in a lockable container also. Okay.. I have a gun safe. May I take it out of the gun safe ever? Perhaps to defend myself? To place in another lockable container so that I may go to the range?
But I don’t just have to have ONE lockable container but two, because the ammo must be stored seperately but locked also…. hmm.. what if they have matching locks with the same key? What, pray tell, do you consider “seperate”? But hold on… I don’t have to lock the containers… the containers just have to have the capability of being locked.
WTF? Don’t any of you dumb@sses have a Napoleon’s Corporal
to read your stupid missives before you send them out to the masses?
Why did the Bundy’s stop paying the grazing fee to BLM in the first place?
BLM, the USFS, Interior and others are notorious for charging way less for the pasture, or oil and gas fields or lumber to be extracted than what it would bring on the open market.
Was there some kind of financial dispute that caused the Bundy’s to stop paying the grazing fee?
Actually, Archie will live on in other Archie comic books. He just died in the Life of Archie series. My guess is that this particular Archie Comic was not make enough money, so they shot him.
I am not aware of any company that manufactures a .44 caliber semi-auto hand gun. Reporters should get their facts straight and stop interviewing the campus idiots for their opinions.
Said the student holding a dime bag…
These are the kind of kids our education system turns out, and we wonder why America is the laughingstock of the industrialized world.
It looks like most other muzzle breaks. Couldn’t one shroud a muzzle break and turn it into a supressor? If that’s the case, then couldn’t the ATF then say that all muzzle brakes are silencer parts? Obviously it’s longer, but when you have a government organization pretty much taking the law, interpreting it as they see fit, and then enforcing their intepretation of the law, then you get a garbled mess of a minefield. I’m glad Sig is standing up to them, hopefully at least it’ll set the bar for these kinds of things and rein in the ATF. I wish more companies with deeper pockets did the same, as well as the NRA.
Either this sparks a mini-revolution or the Bundys have their own reality TV show in three years. Either way, it’s just fuggin nuts.
It’s a bit hard to sympathize with someone who is sponging off of public lands.
http://lasvegas.cbslocal.com/2014/04/10/expect-to-see-a-band-of-soldiers-militia-members-arrive-at-nevada-ranch/
Yeah because the only thing this situation is missing is a bunch of guys who failed the ASVAB running around out in the desert.
A Mexican town resisting the government taking their guns. That is how the Texas War of Independence started.
That guy looks a fair amount like me. I don’t see any way for the LASD to make this right. I hate hearing about things like these.
I think it would do you well to read this. http://www.firearmsandliberty.com/kasler-protection.html
citizens arrest.
They’re not even asking questions anymore. They are following the, “shoot first and give the family a couple million in taxpayer dollars later,” policy these days. Its like winning some kind of bittersweet lottery.
Re the office of president vs the current holder of that office…
I respect the people who constructed the framework upon which the governance of this country is (supposed to be) based.
People are brave, cowardly, principled, despicable, as truthful as they can be, dirty stinking liars, honorable, corrupt, and everything in between by turns. There is a reason that oaths of office, in this country, are made to an office or a system rather than to a person or a committee. The oath is to protect and defend the system, the framework, that allows us as a nation to self-correct and strive for greater – not the people who happen to be trying to implement its ideals (according to their understanding and beliefs).
Personally, I don’t care for many of President Obama’s policies and practices. I believe there have been better presidents. And I also believe that there are presidents more worthy of contempt for the disgrace with which they have draped the office, than President Obama.
If he goes, he’s accused of wasting money. If he does not, he’s a callous SOB who doesn’t even pretend to care.
Either way he won’t see any approval here.
So maybe we can, perhaps, STFU with the stupid comments and nicknames that make all of us look stupid and bigoted by association? They really aren’t funny, they aren’t new, and they don’t add anything.
My wife recently harvested her first whitetail deer with the same lever action 30-30 that used to be my mother’s. I have used the same rifle to good effect on hogs.
I often take a 30-30 for hogs even when I have the option to take an AR or higher power bolt action rifle. Sometimes something “in the middle” as far as capacity and power is just right. Inside a vehicle, an AR’s dangling magazines and pistol grip tend to snag and bang on everything making them sometimes hard to get into action. A powerful bolt action can be so long it’s hard to get into action and are limited in capacity and speed, which makes it less than ideal engaging multiple running targets. A 30-30 lever action is short and smooth, making it easy to get in the action, has good capacity and follow-up speed, and delivers a more authoritative blow to a target than a .223/5.56.
I may someday have to try a 300BLK as a 30-30 replacement, but not until the current price and availability issues work themselves out. I’m very happy with the 30-30 for many applications.
If you haven’t shot a lever gun in .45-70, you need to.
How to get this message to all in support of the Bundy’s and us all? Are we allowed to copy this message and send it out to others? Post it on boards, etc?
“The author makes broad claims that all gun trust attorneys use boilerplate language.”
I don’t see anywhere in the post where it is says this, there is a statement of the nature of the boilerplate-ness of the language, but lacks the qualifier that all attorneys do this, what it actually states is that “The economics of the gun business have led attorneys to love to sell gun trusts.”
The differentiation of “boilerplate” and “customized legal documents” seems more to the opinion one person to the next. I hardly think that any lawyer is starting from 0 every time they draft a commonly sold item like an NFA trust. At what specific point does it go from “boilerplate language” to ” Some attorneys use customized legal documents specifically crafted for each grantor and with detailed instructions for the trustees and beneficiaries named in the trust.” if you are are changing names and instructions from a template are you not just changing words?
I’m sure the gun grabbers are eating this up and slobbering all over this part of the book when they read it.
The constitution is good as is. We have the longest running continual government in the world. It would continue on for hundreds more if the government and people abided by the restraints that are placed on the government. If the people and government keep trying to override or outright destroy the constitution and bill of rights we will go the way of every other government before us. We probably won’t like what emerges from the ashes as I doubt it would be a more liberty and freedom minded government. All of the people who think the ends justify the means will be wondering what the hell happened and we can say “I told you so!”
Another half-assed anti-gun community organizer? I think that the Democrats have found their next Presidential candidate.
I am flabbergasted that a learned person can actually believe this in his heart, that the 2nd Amendment was applied to people “serving” in a militia only. He’s either senile or actually hoping that the populace is stupid enough to believe his argument from authority. Even a cursory glance through history and the intentions of the founders, as well as the Constitution as a whole (Article I, etc.) shows that his interpretation is bogus.
Is (in)Justice Stevens shilling for Depends, these days? Because with that book, he just dropped a pant-load.
I have a “Fix” for retired Supreme Court Justice Stevens:
Go fishing and STFU.
Nobody cares what you have to say any more.
Ha, Jokes on you
If I were a sniper on that ridge you wouldn’t see me or any other real sniper.
Those aren’t feds. They’re militia in SUPPORT of Bundy. They’re just too stupid to seek cover or coordinate with anyone else. Amateurs. If the feds had snipers there you would never see them
A common tree in Austin known to resist termites is the familiar mountain cedar (actually a member of the juniper
family).