The venerable Magpul UBR is a staple of the modern battle rifle build. Featuring solid construction and a tough-as-nails mechanism, the stock is a great option for those with a firearm they intend to beat to death. I put one of these on my original competition rifle build and absolutely loved it. But that didn’t mean there weren’t ways it could have been improved. Apparently Magpul felt the same way, and for SHOT Show they’re releasing their brand new UBR 2.0 . . .
From their email blast:
The UBR 2.0 is an adjustable stock for the AR15/M4, designed to offer the same strength and stability as a fixed stock with a consistent and comfortable cheek weld in any position.
An update of the revolutionary Utility/Battle Rifle (UBR) stock, the UBR 2.0 features a fixed cheek piece to provide a consistent cheek weld in any of its 8 positions, and is compatible with Carbine as well as A5-length buffer systems. Designed to accommodate large bore AR calibers and withstand severe impacts, the UBR 2.0 comes standard with front and rear QD sling attachment points, two footman’s loops, the ergonomic MOE SL™ angled-toe rubber butt-pad, and customizable storage compartment.
MSRP: $199.95
Made in U.S.A.
Looks good, and at $199 it’s slightly cheaper ($30 less MSRP) than the previous version.
But does it weigh less?
This. I love my UBR on my 6.5 Grendel precision AR, but man, it is one hell of a boat anchor.
I find it balances my 20″ medium profile perfectly. I tried an A1 stock (love the LOP) but it was too light.
Either the email or the YouTube vid claimed 20% less.
I’ve been eyeing up a current gen (can be had on sale for ~$200), and while 2.0 seems better, is it really? I can wait for 2.0 if it’s better.
If 2.0 launches at the same price or cheaper you’re better off buying it. Unless some serious flaw materializes it looks to be the original UBR on a diet.
I use their FCS and at 8.9oz it is heavier than I want. I have an Ergo F93 that I got 50% off and will only use that on something like a prairie dog gun. Too heavy and will collapse if you beat on it, so only for lazy sport.
UBR 1.0 – 26.1oz
UBR 2.0 – 21.3 oz
CTR – 8.8 oz
Yes its lighter but still almost a pound heavier than a CTR.
The UBR replaces the buffer tube (receiver extension) so those weight stats aren’t exactly correct.
Add the weight of a CBR plus a standard buffer tube if you want to compare.
A mil-spec buffer tube should be at about 4 oz. So UBR is still 70% heavier.
Been thinking about one of these for my SBR. It might actually benefit by having some more weight in the butt…
Apparently by 5 oz.
How much does it weigh? That seemed to be the only issue I had with the original.
Still about $100-75 too expensive for what is a essentially a bit more plastic added to any other Magpul stock. That being said, I’ve got the 1st gen one.
Not really. The cam lock system is not used on any other stock that I can think of (outside of the UBR). That is what gives it the feel and silence of a fixed stock (and weight).
UBRs are not plastic
I like it, especially the $50 cheaper price tag.
We really need to know comparitive weight. The new release is great, but the reduction in weight would be the only reason for most of us to even think about it.
The more and more complicated stocks get, not to mention expensive, the more and more I want to go back to solid (standard) stocks.
OLD: 26.1 oz.
NEW: 21.3 oz.
Difference: 4.8 oz.
Sources:
https://www.magpul.com/products/ubr-collapsible-stock
https://www.magpul.com/products/ubr-2-0-collapsible-stock
Bless you sir
The real question is does the weight INCLUDE the receiver extension? If it does, subtract ~4oz from the figure to get the weight of the stock.
EDIT: It does include the weight of the RE…but I’m not understanding if Magpul says it’s compatible with A5 BUFFERS or the A5 TUBES as well.
UBR 2.0 Collapsible Stock
Weight, w/Receiver Extension: 21.3 oz.
Length: 8.5-12.5 in.
Width, max: 1.7 in.
LOP Adjustment Range: 4.0 in.
LOP, M4 Collapsed: ~11.6 in.
LOP, M4 Extended: ~15.6 in.
Brownell’s description says its compatible with A5 (buffer and spring) or carbine (buffer and spring) with spacer.
Still too expensive.
From an aesthetics standpoint, I’m still liking the more angular and bold Gen1 UBR.
Why? Does it match your high heels?
It’s for a gun, my friend, not a fashion statement.
Why can’t it be both? That’s the point of customizing a gun. To make it fit, function, and look how an individual wants it.
By all means.
Because no one in the firearms industry cares what their products look like before the release them for sale, especially Magpul.
We can’t use telescoping rifle stocks on our evil black rifles in MA. However, while I understand and appreciate the utility of an adjustable stock, I still prefer the solid A2 stock. It just feels good and, fortunately for me, the LOP is ideal.
Do the MA gun overlords allow those “shoulder things that go up”?
There are options for those who want a shorter A2-style stock. For starters, you can get the A1-style stock from CavArms. Then there is the super-short RRA entry buttstock. If you’re not specifically married to A2 look, ACE stocks are great. and come in a variety of lengths. And for the budget minded, there’s the fixed Magpul stock.
I personally have been waiting for a UBR 2.0…and this is slightly underwhelming. But I may still jump on one though if the time/price is right. Can’t wait for the cheap gen 1.0 UBR’s to start popping up on ARFcom though.
As noted above, it’s lighter than the 1.0 but still not “lightweight.” Availability will be late spring. TTAG has a T&E sample spoken for so we can beat one up and test it out and such. Again though, late spring on that.
Do you know if the Receiver Extension still proprietary to the UBR?
It was on version 1, it came with it. Looks like 2.0 as well in that you can see the threads in the V2 Pic.
It’s not proprietary. RRA uses the same tube on their fixed entry length stock.
http://www.rockriverarms.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.display&category_id=299
Well, Spring 2016 has come and gone. Any news on this?
Is there anything better on the 1.0 that the 2.0 is taking off? See the 1.0 on sale at a few places and dipping below $190…
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