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Well, did they earn their pay by taking the bastards out? Why didn’t the video tell us that in more explicit detail? I can’t stand sanitized war reporting.
“earn their pay”
These men sacrifice many rights that you enjoy, in order to serve in the military. Rights they won’t earn again until they are discharged, retire, or end their enlistment. Nice 9-to-5 work week at 40 hours? Comfortable working conditions? OSHA requirements? Right to Free Speech?
Our marines and soldiers don’t have many of the rights you enjoy, even when stationed stateside. And things get even worse when deployed. And you have the gall to tell them to “earn their pay?” Next thing you’ll know, I’ll hear you say they need to “earn your respect” too.
These men and women in uniform do crap that I personally don’t feel like enduring (especially overly political bull from officers and the pentagon), so excuse me for saying I don’t think they need to “earn their pay” simply with kills.
Get off your high horse. We pay them to use their skills to kill psychotic backwards religious fundamentalists. I want to know if they were successful in doing their job or not. And if so, how successful?
And you’re right. No one gets my respect just because of their position or job. If I gave all military service members respect just for being service members I’d have to give that self-righteous douchebag that basically considered himself one of the “only ones” respect too. And he ain’t getting it.
Trust me, none of us in the military give a shit if we have you’re respect or not Go back to playing your video games if you want the rest of the story
“We pay them to use their skills to kill psychotic backwards religious fundamentalists”…and American citizens designated as “terrorists” in accordance with the NDAA.
Fixed that for ya.
Nice 9-to-5 work week at 40 hours?
Most IT jobs your on call 24/7. Same with other industries too such as medicine, management, and a criminal defense attorneys, just to name a few. I’ve had plenty of after midnight jobs (when i’m 1st shift), because that is the only acceptable time to take down servers for maintenance.
Comfortable working conditions?
Plenty of other jobs have uncomfortable working conditions. Data centers and warehouses where you need a jacket. Steel foundries where you need anti-heat suits. Construction workers in the summer/winter.
OSHA requirements?
OSHA works with the military too
http://www.osha.gov/dcsp/partnerships/national/army/army.html
Right to Free Speech?
You lose that when you’re on the job in the private sector too.
And you have the gall to tell them to “earn their pay?”
They do need to earn their pay and respect. The only reason they joined the military is because they can’t get higher paying work in the private sector. How many private sector employers provide homes and 3 meals a day for their employees? Full collage educations for a field not related to their job? 100% free medical care? Rock bottom interest rates for mortgages and business loans? They are welfare queens extraordinaire.
People join the military for many reasons. A prominent one is that they come from impoverished neighborhoods, and want to advance their career opportunities in life by getting a degree while serving their country. In many cases, they knowingly do this out of a sense of honor, and because they don’t want to live a life dominated by drugs and gang violence.
People who knowingly volunteer for a job that includes the very likely possibility of death or dismemberment in the description deserve a lot more respect than the rest of us in cushy 9-5 office jobs. People like you clearly can’t grasp this concept.
A prominent one is that they come from impoverished neighborhoods, and want to advance their career opportunities in life by getting a degree while serving their country… [because they don’t want to live a life dominated by drugs and gang violence.
My parents were broke, my dad died homeless. I never had a opportunity to get a education beyond the elementary school level, because the school system threw me in special ed; the officials didnt like what I had to say. When I was 16 I was managing the computers for my school district, by 20 I was doing it for a private university, by 26 I was doing it for BlueCross BlueShield Assoc. I’m entirely self taught, I did it without joining the military or requiring any other form for welfare to advance myself.
People who knowingly volunteer for a job that includes the very likely possibility of death or dismemberment in the description deserve a lot more respect than the rest of us in cushy 9-5 office jobs.
As TTAG has noted, more people are killed in Chicago by violence than in Afghanistan. That is just 1 city, and not even the worst. Plenty of other jobs can get you injured or killed, does that mean we should put construction workers or miners up on a pedestal too?
People like you clearly can’t grasp this concept.
No, I just got ahead without requiring a government handout. I’ve been injured on the job a couple times and almost killed once; i’ve even had students try to rob me twice while working in public education environments. But you don’t see me calling myself a paragon of virtue.
The service members never took the job to honor their country, they did it to advance themselves in society.
henry, matt and you have never held back from making scathing remarks about others. while i don’t condone the remark that hold fast made it’s part of the rough and tumble here.
personally i feel that family should be left out of these remarks. as you know i’m x military and have had my share of words with matt on the subject. but i do feel that family should be off limits. that’s 1 line we shouldn’t cross.
Never looked into the regulations, but the one time I was personally ‘corrected’ by an angry Sergeant Major was for walking down the street from a unit armorers class while carrying a Mk19.
His problem? The Army designates that item as a two man lift, and I was by myself. Maybe OSHA did have something to do with it.
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Good thing somebody sitting in a CP cleared them to fire. It would be tragic if they returned fire without permission.
It would probably be a fcuking international incident. Better safe than sorry, at least with a pinko CinC that has already proven that he’d throw his grandparents under a bus let alone some buck private Marine.
nothing like the sound of a round going past your ear to remind you of how flexible your neck is. and the sound of rounds striking objects around you gets you focused real quick. won’t hurt my feelings if i never hear those noises again.
One issue that few are looking at: 1St. our troops have been in combat too long, 2nd. too much hot combat is bad for anyone, the body breaks down, and should we get into a new but very hot shooting war, look out for problems… Iran , North Korea, Syria , China, Russia, could all unite and we bite off more than we can chew, also , our Factory base has been DESTROYED by off shore industry… We may be in a bad place, we need to RESTORE our home land NOW, and we are broke!!!!!!!!!
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If you forcibly enter someone’s house, and they shoot at you, it probably means they don’t want you there. The same applies to foreign countries.
Being on a roof top for 3 days sucks! You get cramps in places you didn’t even know you had muscles.
For better or worse right now they are there, so I support them. If you don’t like the war blame political leaders not the soilders.
Yeah ok they use ephimisoms instead of saying targeted killings of the enemy. It is more PC, which unfortunately is where this country has come to. I remember seeing the Israeli bus 5 bombing pictures in an Israeli News paper. Body parts and blood everywhere. US news was all sanatized, no blood no death. Death and in some cases violent death is part of life. My children in Israel learned that very early on. If anything I have found itakes them cherish life even more because they realize their own mortality.