More Gun Companies Leaving Anti-Gun States in the Rearview Mirror

1. Their hypocrisy is jaw-dropping.

   The ones who so loudly proclaim the importance of tolerance and acceptance of others not like themselves are themselves the utterly intolerant ones.

   Strange how the same folks who bristle at the suggestion of requiring a picture ID to vote refuse to extend the same courtesy when buying a gun.

   Well, if I don’t need an ID to vote, I damn sure don’t need one to buy a gun…

   • “Their hypocrisy is jaw-dropping.”

     Indeed. But I’d add self-defeating.

     • The kind of hypocrites who will fight nonstop for your “right” to agree verbatim with every tenet of leftism have a solid lock on mass media, social media, education at every level, essentially every tool for shaping public opinion; nearly every major city (even in “red” states), whole demographics, etc. Where are the defeats?

       • The left have been playing the long game since the late 50s and possibly earlier into the 1920s. Secure academia, then the media, and then politics initially covertly and then overtly. We are now in the overt phase.

       • Yes, exactly!

2. Not to worry, the whaling industry will make up the difference.

   • LOL my marsupial friend! Sorry you suck Massachusetts. Tennessee is supposedly the go to state especially for retirees(not me).

   • Hey, I keep telling my wife (she’s a fine rifle and pistol marks-woman, BTW) that on comment sections gun guys are funny as all get out.

     “Not to worry, the whaling industry will make up the difference.”

     She and I laughed our fannies off after reading the above quoted statement.

     Best,

     David and Lorraine

3. Troy hired one of the HRT hitmen that murdered Vicki Weaver. When called out on it, they had the gall to double down.

   They should not be welcomed in Tennessee or anywhere. Low information gun owners need to stop buying their products.

   • It’s always a pleasure communicating online with someone who believes all gun owners lack intelligence…

     …David W. Walters, Ph.D., Baylor College of Medicine (former Marine infantry officer, 8 years, a gun owner and active sportsman.)

     • I had a PhD, but digging holes made my back sore.

       • Gracious, in what field did you obtain your Ph.D.?

         I’m not trying to start an argument, but…?

       • @David W
         Hayfield
         I obtained the post hole digger from the farm store

     • I searched and I did not see anything related to, “all.” However you can bet your “qualifiers” there are some very stupid gun owners who are politically inept and who stand for nothing and fall for anything and who will go along to get along at the drop of a hat. And the fact is, a whole bunch of them come from the gun owner-active sportsman crowd.
       I ask you Dave…Are there some people who served in the USMC who dropped the ball and are doing time? Are there those in the medical field who have had their license to practice revoked for reasons ranging from drugs to rape to malpractice? Keep it in mind I did not say or imply, “all.”

       • Deb,

         I always respect you posts and respect this inquiry.

         Neither Marines nor medical professionals are perfect humans who never bend to temptations. Trust me, as a Marine officer I’ve put many in the brig and as a medical professional I’ve reported to authorities those who practice the sorts of excesses you query.

         In neither circumstance, military or medicine / research do such people belong. I’ve always done my part to ensure such folks don’t stay for long in their positions once their lack of professionalism is known.

         Always, love corresponding with you. You really are someone special on the net.

   • The sniper who shot Vicki was an FBI employee.

     • Horiuchi was the lead HRT sniper for the FBI in the combined agency action. He was brought up on charges 5 years after the incident and ultimately had his charges dismissed after the feds invoked supremacy clause actions and the case appeared before a new DA that didn’t feel he could try the case successfully after all that time had passed.

       • And, IIRC, a multimillion dollar judgement against the FBI was awarded to Weaver and has as yet been unpaid due to wrangling through the court system… try seeing how long you can get by with shit like that if you are late with your taxes.

       • At one time the Osage were the richest poor people on earth. I think the government still owes them money.

     • He meant to say X Marine officer.
       Weird, sometimes I’m a marine and sometimes I’m an x marine ?

4. Shockingly (/sarc), the ‘leadership’ of Massachusetts will see this as a ‘win’ in their column. They will pat themselves on the back as having struck a blow against ‘gun violence’ and ‘arms merchants of death’ and ‘weapons of war’, and will truly believe that they have Saved LIVES! by the thousands, and can thus sleep better at night with unsullied hands because of defeating Systemically Racist White Supremacist Guns.
   The economic cost is, frankly, irrelevant in the face of the HUGE gain in SocialJusticeWarrior points; Should every firearms-related business leave the state, it would be considered as a net gain that would raise individual smug levels to immeasurable heights.
   And no matter the loss in money and jobs, their constituents will still vote them back into office at the next election, because Democrats are whores. Not the good kind of whores, either; They are on a whole different level of whoredom, not seen since Biblical times in Babylon. But I digress.
   Don’t try to understand them; and don’t try to make them understand you. For they are a breed apart and make no sense.

   • John in AK…….. As jobs and companies disappear, the state income will shrink. The tax base will be smaller resulting in higher taxes on the fewer people that will live there. Eventually the moneyed people will move away, call it the New York effect. Gradual decline from socialism, running out of other people’s money. Of course, the socialists in the District of Communists will just send them our tax dollars to prevent the enevitable implosion.

     • Getting to be most of the northeast including Maryland and Delaware (not sure on Pennsylvania). Oh and even with multiple billions in bailouts we still saw tax increases for most counties and school districts and a ever increasing pit of deficit spending. Oh and just for Albany silliness we had a mass shooting by aspiring rapper ‘jew money’ wounding 5 and killing one muslim immigrant from Oman after the Gaza ceasefire. I am sure there is a joke in there but a few hours later someone else was shot a few blocks away in an unrelated incident and we haven’t even started summer yet.

   • Well said

   • “Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. They may be more likely to go to Heaven yet at the same time likelier to make a Hell of earth. This very kindness stings with intolerable insult. To be ‘cured’ against one’s will and cured of states which we may not regard as disease is to be put on a level of those who have not yet reached the age of reason or those who never will; to be classed with infants, imbeciles, and domestic animals.” (“Theory of Punishment” in the book “God in the Dock”) ~ C. S. Lewis

5. “Don’t try to understand them; and don’t try to make them understand you. For they are a breed apart and make no sense.”

   Most of us have ideologies. Not all fervent ideologues have ideologies which negatively impact the constitutional rights of others. Anti-firearm liberals, well, do have such ideologies.

6. Ironic that the founder of Troy industries is a retired Massachusetts State Trooper.

   More ironic is that Troy Industries hired former Chicago Police Superintendent Jody Weiss — a vicious gungrabber — and Dale R. Monroe, who was Lon Horiuchi’s partner at Ruby Ridge.

   Troy might have hired Horiuchi, too, but he had already been snapped up by HS Precision.

   • Wow didn’t know that Ralph…honestly never had a thought buying anything from Troy. Jody Weiss I know about. An evil prick!

7. If they wanted to make a real difference, they’d go on to refuse to do business with states that limit their citizens rights, like when Barrett told California to pound sand over .50 BMG rifles. Oh, Massachusetts residents can’t have our products? Then neither can Massachusetts law enforcement agencies. If enough companies did this, we might actually see real change coming down the pipe.

   • While it does help that Barrett has multiple military contracts their willingness to build workarounds (even for their semiauto over here in NY) and available catalog for civilians does have them on my list for future why the hell not purchases.

8. You guys all seem to think that TPTB in Massachusetts see this as a bug. They don’t. This is a feature.

   Oh, you think they care about the tax revenue? LOL. Pull the other one.

   • It’s undoubtedly true that Massachusetts doesn’t care. However, it’s bad for business in the long term to operate in a hostile jurisdiction. Moving is just plain sensible management.

     • There’s nothing wrong with the company’s actions. As you say, it’s sensible.

       But from the State’s point of view, explaining this in terms of business makes no sense. TPTB see this as a good thing. They’re basically the same people who brought you Detroit, Baltimore and a dozen other cities. What they care about is power. If they have to collapse things so that they can lord over an ash heap, so much the better. Less riffraff to deal with.

       You can see the same thing in numerous EU countries on a variety of topics.

       • The area known as Palestine is a prime example. The Arabs deliberately keep them impoverished to suit their political ends…

       • @ Geoff
         Yup, I can think of a lot of others too.
         Cant have power unless you have someone to push around. And lordy lordy the Isrealites and Palestinians have been warring for what now , 7000 years?

9. Do you not know that that is the intent of the legislature, to force firearms manufacturers out, and if they stay it is a bonus in dollars. Only when the revenue goes down will there be wailing and mashing of teeth. Only to a small extent. That will give the legislators a reason to increase taxes though.

10. “…and Kahr Arms already has manufacturing in Pennsylvania, a move they made when New York made business there untenable.”

    You think you’re safe in Pennsyl-tucky? You’ll be out of business or packing your shit again in five years or less.

    • Taxes can suck but most of their congregation is in that state.

11. These good companies should quit selling firearms to some of these state and local police forces. And if all the companies would abide you would see some change.

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