NBA President Issues Next Steps in “War on Police Brutality”

1. Crack kills. Even funnier is she used her work email to send this. I would hate to be the managing partner at her firm having to explain to institutional clients this drivel, esp demanding Congress hold hearings with less than 8 working days left, or a petition for the Justice Dept to force an indictment (suggesting our system is subject to personal whims and public sentiment) and my favorite, a petition to remove Darren Wilson’s MO license to be a cop without, I dunno, looking up these standards and requirements first.

   I am ashamed to be a member. I need to ask for a refund.

   • You have to take one for the team on this.

   • Dirk man.. wow.. She really lost her mind on this one.
     You owe me drinks for forcing me to read that email lol

   • Somehow partners get away with doing crazy lefty pro bono crap at my shop, and those of us who don’t agree seem to just stay silent. No large corporation or bank is every going to complain about their lawyers taking on stupid lefty causes at no cost But if a firm, acting for a paying client, defends traditional marriage, the gates of hell will open up and all the usual suspects will use secondary boycotts to crush that firm.

     • Yep. It’s what I say. Liberal/Progressives is a cult of death. The death of a culture, of a society, of a people.

       But this type of self-destructive society destroying belief system isn’t new. Look at the end of the Roman Republic. The same actions were going on then as well; Infanticide, the destruction of the family, a large population on the dole, a large “professional” military and the people no longer expected to be a trained citizen soldier, what was considered sexual perversions being embraced as the new normal.

       There is nothing new under the sun. It doesn’t exactly repeat: but it does rhyme.

     • Worse yet, many firms coerce contributions from associates and income partners for their causes and do so blatantly. If I ever cross-over to the dark side and become a plaintiff’s class action attorney, I have ready-made wage and hour suits against a few firms because of how draconian they are in coercing contributions. Law firms, ironically, can be really stupid employers.

   • Dirk,

     Does she actually have any understanding of due process? What does she think DoJ should do if there isn’t evidence for an indictment? Indict anyway, waste court time and start another round of violence when the inevitable not-guilty verdict comes?

     And why the boycots of those stores? No reason is given, just random “targets of opportunity?” I suspect it will do more damage to the customers than to the stores. I sure hope none them are Thompson Coburn customers.

     And sorry. Congress has no business legislating on local police affairs. Some of the ideas are good, like body cams, but those are local concerns and the federal government has no business being involved. Didn’t she read the Constitution at least once in law school?

     Dirk, I’m also in the St. Louis area. Can you send me a copy of the original email? I’d love to give the TC firm a phone call with a follow up email. 🙂 As a well educated, professional Mexican-American minority, that is.

     • send Dan Zimmerman your contact info and he can get it to me.

       and apparently, they have put their “BEST” face forward. . . . . not exactly client friendly. http://www.thompsoncoburn.com/

       But I digress, here is the management committee for the firm:http://www.thompsoncoburn.com/firm/management.aspx
       I am confident they would love rousing and positive emails for Thanksgiving. . . . . Gobble Gobble

   • Do you know what type of law this crazy lady practices surely it can’t be criminal law. I am also curious if she can be remanded to remedial truing in how prosecution of a criminal case works, standards of proof etc.

2. New laws, good idea. Indicting every cop involved in a shooting because you don’t like existing laws, very bad idea.

   • New laws are generally a bad thing. We’ve already banned all the bad stuff, and lots of harmless stuff.
     What they need to do is repeal the laws, regulations, or whatever they are, that protect cops from the existing laws against murder, assault, etc.
     All police brutality cases should get investigated by a grand jury, just like the Brown-Wilson case. Then the self defense shooters, like Wilson, can get exonerated, and the guilty prosecuted and imprisoned.

     • Amen to that. We have way too many laws. Rand Paul is one of very few politicians advocating less laws and less government.

       I’m a little tired about the “black justice” crap. Justice is supposed to be colorblind. I want justice for the a$$holes burning down the city and looting stores, regardless of their color.

     • Change laws, new laws, repeal laws, I don’t care whatever works. A grand jury is almost always a political stunt. Prosecutors just need to have the balls and common sense to do the right thing. Mcculloch knew Wilson was clean but decided to go the stunt route. It was just a show, grand juries aren’t designed to investigate.

     • When I have been asked on this case my response has always been that as a c.c. I would be sitting in front of the grand jury for sure if the situation was exactly the same. But my name wouldn’t have been withheld for so long. What is fair for us is what is fair for everyone. The only new law that I would love to see passed is the body cameras. I talked to a couple officers where I live and thy said that they already have cameras in the car and it hasn’t been a problem. They said they have nothing to hide.

3. Fourth rule of Nature:

   Whether or not your A_ _ is dumb, don’t breath through it.

4. From 8:09 pm until 12:39 am for a week. (The month and date of Michael Brown’s death and four hours his body laid in the street)

   Are basic math skills not a requirement in the legal profession?
   By reading her email, I’ve determined that basic grammar and punctuation skills are not.

   • Yeah – she’s also unclear on federalism and the concept of double jeopardy (yes, I know why it’s technically not DJ, but any lawyer who actually cares about civil rights should be offended at the way the Feds do an end-run around the concept).

     • You’d better go read up on double jeopardy again. First, Wilson hasn’t been charged with a crime, nor tried for that crime, hence jeopardy has not attached. Second, since the state and federal jurisdictions are separate, a state charge does not preclude a separate federal prosecution for a criminal civil rights violation. For example, a Byron De La (Delay) Beckwith, who murdered Medgar Evers, was found not guilty of that murder in a Mississippi state court but was successfully prosecuted for the civil rights violation decades later.

5. Wow, seriously? Perhaps she needs to be brutalized by a upstanding member of her black community…so she can see where the real problem lies.

6. The Atlanta boycott list: “Lottery, Macy’s, Target and Bed, Bath and Beyond”

   Commas save lives, people.

   • Target and bed? I don’t think naptime at the range is a good idea.

     • I’ve heard it proposed that one should be acme to train that way. Wake up, get the gun and shoot the target to give an idea of the certified one would experience.

     • I have ME (Chronic Fatigue Syndrome), so yes, a nap before a firing session would set me up nicely. If I do anything requiring undue effort, whether too much exercise, my tax return, or dealing with a dimbulb at some essential service organization, I need to have a lie down afterwards to recover from the surge of adrenaline and other tension byproducts that poison my system.

       Sometimes I know it’s not worth the after effects, so I let a lot of hassles just go. You can’t cure stupid in other people, after all, and sometimes my own stupid gets in the way.

   • Oxford commas save lives. i.e. “Lottery, Macy’s, Target, and Bed, Bath, and Beyond”.

     • Heh. Beat me to it. I’m a big fan of the Oxford comma. But when items in a list have internal commas and conjunctions, semicolons are the best way to avoid confusion.

       • I am also a fan. Vampire Weekend be damned.

         This reminds me of a joke about a panda…

   • Macy’s has been an NBA sponsor in yrs past and Meanes list Kroger as a client. I may have to make some calls. 🙂

7. Thank you Dirk!

   A ray of light was needed.

8. If at first you don’t convict, try, try again.

   • “If at first you don’t convict,”

     Do a better job next time fabricating evidence.

9. When she says “Lottery”, is she talking about a chain I’ve never heard of, or does she mean not buying lottery tickets? If so, that is a very sad social commentary about her recipients: they buy so many lottery tickets, that ceasing to do so would be a significant action. But I guess that goes hand-in-hand with my prior comment about her poor math skills.

   Also, what’s with the boycott on Target, BB&B, etc.? Did they come to the defense of Wilson, or do something else that would justify explain singling them out?

   • I wondered that myself, as I have never heard of them and wondered what kind of Lottery they were proposing.

     “Spin the wheel and see which retail chain the NBBA (<-Typo intentional) will be boycotting."

10. Conspiracy: /kənˈspirəsē/ noun
    1. A secret plan by a group to do something unlawful or harmful.
    2. The action of plotting or conspiring.

    This looks like character assassination and harassment at the highest level; when judges conspire to ruin a man who has already been cleared of a crime, justice has truly given way to tyranny and despotism. I am no lawyer. I drive a semi. My opinion on legal issues holds little strength, if any. But, in my common sense opinion, if these people succeed at what they are attempting to do, they will have constructed new inroads to the formation of a slave state.

    I am no fan of police brutality, but I am equally disgusted with judicial corruption.

    • It turns out that “rule of law” is actually “rule by judges,” and once again we can’t escape being ruled by one or more members of the human race. The trick is, which one shall rule?

11. Uh, you cannot claim a copyright in a short phrase like “black lives matter” so the use of © is inappropriate. But under certain circumstances it could be a trademark or service mark for which you would use a ™ until registered, and then a ®. Maybe she should run her drafts past the trademark and copyright lawyers at Thompson Coburn.

    • Black lives matter, but not as much as cashing in apparently.

      • So only black lives matter then? I hear about all kinds of different colors being gunned down. Why single out black’s. Thats racist.

    • And if there is a TM involved, what about the National Basketball Association or the Bureau of Land Management? They probably have a better claim to those acronyms than this lady does.

12. Black lives matter, huh? Where’s the outcry over DeAndre Joshua being murdered during the riot…er… protests? Nary a peep.

    Speaking of which, where’s the outcry from them over the looting, arsons, carjacking and muggings?

    Here we have an organization of defense lawyers suggesting we ignore the mechanisms of the justice system if they do not replicate the result the mob wants. Back in the day, we’d call that a lynching. One wonders how they’ll like it when their clients are subjected to the same sort of mentality.

13. Somebody enlighten me as to how a boycott has anything to do with this. WTF do Macy’s Bed&Bath or Best Buy have to do with this??????????

    Why did I waste time even reading that crap.

    • Meh. Boycotts don’t work anyway.

14. “End the school to prison pipeline”

    I have an idea how to do that.

    http://www.quickmeme.com/img/09/09d83eb1288edaf2ba56ea88316cd73a525ebd3ce24b18c2f304d76a6b8d27f0.jpg

    • That made me truly LOL.

    • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QR465HoCWFQ

      • Now that made me LOL. Chris Rock has had a few progtard moments, but when he’s on target, he is REALLY on target.

15. As a gun owner of color, I am stupified in equal measure as angered by this nonsense. Is this what MLK JR, Malcolm X, and so many others died for?

    So that a pox on society who just happens to be darker then the lawman who stopped him is elevated as a cause for equality?

    Is this what the marches in Selma were for? Is this why so many people of white, black, and other races suffered and died for ?

    Is the elevation of a scumbag now the symbol for minority solidarity?

    If he is, then the cause of equality is lost, and those lives have been laid down in the name of lawlessness and cruelty .Our Constitution has granted all people equal representation before all Creation, whoever you hold that to be. I’m waiting for the day when black people in a position of power start acting like it.

    • Well said…appreciate your point of view.

    • The worst part is there are so many incidents of unjustifiable police violence (including killings) against blacks that there was no need to latch onto this case of an apparently justified shooting.

      What made this story big news, while the guy shot walking down a hallway by an NYC rookie who claimed his gun malfunctioned (while pointed at an innocent man’s heart?), or the cases where NYC cops emptied multiple magazines into a black man, and other such cases of actual police brutality get ignored?

      • That’s the thing, I heard today someone mentioned the NC trooper who shot a man reaching for his wallet on a traffic stop. Now that’s a clearcut bad shoot, but the problem is they don’t want clearcut because you can’t do anything with it except say it was a bad incident or officer.

        • Correct. Clearly bad shoots will unify, and unity hurts the cause. They need to be able to point a finger and scream “RACISM!” This requires a plausibly good shoot to create a difference of opinion that can be represented as running along racial lines.

      • To be fair, it looks like the NYC stairwell shooter will face charges, but this is only from browsing headlines briefly.

        Clear cut case of negligence resulting in a homicide, in my opinion, unless some evidence of deliberate intent comes to light.

    • Interesting book by gent named Kevin Jackson, called Race Pimping. I believe he also has a website of the same name – racepimping.com

      The interesting thing (or maybe not depending on your analysis) is that he’s the polar opposite of Michael Eric Dyson – save for the color of his skin – Jackson’s actually darker.

16. When is she calling off the Ferguson Intifada? There still may be a couple of buildings that haven’t been turned crispy. And then maybe she can work on Chicago, St, Louis and other B-on-B crime cities. Giuliani was right — white police officers wouldn’t be there if black people weren’t killing each other.

    • This has more of an edict tone/narrative from Pammy. I think Fatwa or Fatawa (plural) may be more accurate than intifada.

      • Who are you calling a Fatwat?

17. You know the rub here is that there IS a problem with police brutality and over militarization… problem here is the issue that started the riots in Ferguson IS NO ONE OF THEM.

18. With all due respect for all those of any race not involved in this horse hockey…aside from all the rather glaring legal and punctuation errors she makes…does she really think that any large group of modern people, addicted to their shiny technology, are going to give it up for an hour, let alone for the periods she suggested?

    Also, in my retail experience, blacks are big fans of Black Friday sales. If they need a something on a deal price, they are not going to pass it up.

19. WUT??? The lottery? 80% of the folks I see play are black. Don’t see a lot of traction there. Sorry you have to interact Dirk. That’s one rough lookin” gal…

20. Having worked the cj system and with inner city youth for almost 20 years I have to comment on the disconnect that exist among elitist blacks. On the streets I see Michael Brown’s every day. And he isn’t just black, he’s white, Asian, Hispanic, but he lives in impoverished neighborhoods, is on probation and doesn’t go to school because his parents are not present or are so dis functional it’s unreal. They are illiterate, high most of the time and cannot pass a drug test. They cannot hold a job in fast food. If they do pay their restitution it is often with large bills they pull off a roll and it reeks of pot. I’ve seen 14 yr olds with weapons charges, who the court coddles and let’s off light. THis youth shirked off being an innocent and nice boy a long time ago and was a violent thug. Progressives like the one above don’t care. They invoke race and ignore stats on black on black crime.

21. When is the Dept of “Justice” going to begin the “Civil Rights” investigation of the NBA, NFL, etc for discrimination? A shocking lack of diversity and obviously intolerant.

22. So, with all the actual criminal (criminally negligent homicide at the least) police killings, the lawyer’s group wants to hang its hat on an apparent good shoot???

23. “National Police Brutality Day”

    Isn’t that what she’s against, yet she wants a day of it?

    Holy crap.
    /sarc

24. Whether it’s Trayvon Martin or Mike Brown, people who refuse to see the truth that neither instance was some great injustice only show their racism, idiocy, or both. In both cases, the dead man attacked the shooter, in both cases, the shooter rightfully defended themselves from the attack and in both cases, people who should know better jump on the racial injustice bandwagon. All this does is take away the legitimacy of real racial injustice as they start appearing to be boys who cry wolf. Pick a true case, protest that peacefully and maybe someone will start listening and real change can occur, until then all you do is line the pockets of big media and race baiters like Jackson and Sharpton and nothing else will change.

25. Perhaps one of the few times law enforcement should exercise it’s “no duty to protect”.

26. I guess a Law degree isn’t what it used to be.

27. I just don’t get it. I read earlier today someone claiming that Brown was shot after ‘scuffling’ with the police. Scuffling? They found his DNA on Wilson’s gun. There are plenty of example of police using excessive force, why are so many people going nuts over a good shoot? How do they think Wilson should respond? If someone assaults a cop and tries to take his gun, the only way they will avoid getting shot is if the cop misses. With all of the questionable police shootings, why did so many people choose this shooting to have their coniption over?

    • I think the narrative started so strong (and false) that there was no stopping it.

      Here’s an article about how it started going bad from the beginning: http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2014/11/24/mike-brown-shooting-understanding-the-acquital-and-how-the-media-again-got-it-so-wrong-the-initial-media-witnesses-were-false/

28. They’ll have to start start calling in black cops every time they stop a black suspect. Like when they call in a female cop to search a female suspect. Maybe we should go back to segregation. Perhaps, then, these types would be happy.

29. My wife listened to Nancy Grace this afternoon (whom we both despise), and was unfortunately persuaded by Nancy’s belief (as a former prosecutor) that Wilson was not justified in shooting because he was not significantly injured when punched by Brown, and therefore had no reasonable fear for his life.(Sadly, there are any number of prosecutors who hold similar views on self-defense.) It didn’t seem to make any difference that Brown had committed a robbery ( a felony), that he’d attacked a police officer (another felony), and was shot and killed when it appeared he was attacking the officer again (a third felony). I just don’t get it.

30. The cynic in me wonders whether Ms. Meanes intends these
    reforms for all officers (including federal) or are some
    officers more equal than others.

31. Fuck the Bar Association. I haven’t paid them a penny for years.

32. Well, IANAL, nor do I hire them, but if I did, I would be looking for the part that says, “National Bar Association”, to file that resume in the circular file.

    Unprofessional, illogical, solipsistic reasoning, combined with borderline hysterical threats against a nonsensical list of targets that have little to nothing to do with the issue.

    This woman just managed to simulaneously lower the “brand” of black lawyers, her Association, and her employer.

    Getting your money back is the least of it, Dirk. NBA desperately needs new leadership.

33. Boycott social media — LOL! Please, nobody is going to notice or care.

    I have to laugh at the “NATIONAL ECONOMIC BOYCOTT WITH LOCAL IMPACT” list — LOL!

    5 Cities is not National. Boycotting the Lottery, Macy’s, Best Buy, Target — There is another laugh. First, most of the people who would be doing the boycotting probably rely on those places for work. Boycotting the Lottery is funny because that money goes to the states and that money often goes to schools –making that statement seems racist because that demographic is the one most likely to purchase lottery tickets — but since she is black I can say it is racist however, most of the impact is to small businesses in the communities she is trying to help — whatever!

    Boycotts never work. In case they have not been paying attention, whatever the Black community boycotts it will be quickly replaced by Hispanics so there will be no impact.

    This is all feel good BS because they happen to be in the city– in reality, it will do nothing

    Wanting an outcome devoid of the facts would make me scared to use anyone in that law firm.

34. Oh FFS. Really? What makes black lives any more important that white? Or purple? Or yellow, brown, pink, red, blue, etc? We’re all human f**king beings, damnit. Every color has their trouble makers, some more than others. And why is it that white people are always accused of being racist first? In my opinion, who ever cries “racism” first is the real racist. Although, sometimes my chronic foot-in-mouth disorder causes completely innocent comments to sound like I’m a friggin’ neo-nazi.

35. I think you’ve all been had.
    I’d like to see the original email.
    There is no mention of this anywhere else on the web except on TTAG.

    • Dan Z has the original I forwarded him. Also, Pam has a rep for foot in mouth disease. After speaking w others, we suspect she sent out a blast email and didn’t have authority to do so. Be that as it may, she still sent it from her work email and not from the National Bar. This morning she sent out a Happy Thanksgiving email. From the same email account. No – I think we have someone who has gone off the rails. Time for her to resign. The only problem is Ben Crump, yes, the guy who can’t complete a sentence, is pres-elect. He would assume office early (july/august is when new admin comes in). But that also would mean a longer period to enjoy his crazy antics. After all, it worked so well for st trayvon’s family. Or not

36. Perhaps there should be a petition drive asking the DOJ to investigate NBA for conspiracy to deprive Officer Wilson of his civil rights…

    • and that is an actual crime. . . . https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petitions

      AWESOME IDEA !!!

      • http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/42/1985

        42 USC 1985 – looks like several sections have been violated. . . . . .

37. How about a “Next step” in why African Americans should raise their offspring instead of allowing them to become thugs..

38. From Drudge:
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2852132/Ferguson-protesters-arrested-trying-disrupt-Macy-s-Thanksgiving-Day-Parade-Activists-used-StopTheParade-Twitter-organize-demonstration.html

    Would Macy’s or City of New York have a case for recovering expences from this disruption of the Macy’s branded Thanksgiving Day Parade. Would responsibility for damages accrue to the National Bar Association, and individual members on the Board, personally, as its fiduciaries??
    Or to her employer, since the incitement for the illegal action was on Thompson Coburn time, and email header?

    • The reason I mention it is both Ms Meanes and the organizer of the #Stop the Parade flashmob reference a national conference call on Wednesday, and the sudden reference to Macy’s, first of all retailers, seems kind of ….convenient?

      I’ll have to give Mayor DeBlasio credit for allowing mobs to shut down major arteries in and out of the city, including Lincoln Tunnel, the day before, emboldening the anarko-nitwits further….

    • I am certain the managing partner would LOVE to hear from you. And others.

39. Quote Don Henley:

    “Old Billy was right: let’s kill all the lawyers – kill ’em tonight”

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