New from Taurus: 22PLY and 25PLY Pistols

1. I have the 22ply. *shrug* I got it cheap. It is what it is. Don’t run hollowpoints. The DA trigger is the worst I’ve ever pulled. It rides great in a pocket and it has a real safety. There – you’re all caught up.

2. Beretta 21 Bobcat?

   http://www.berettausa.com/products/model-21-bobcat/

   • Or Beretta 950 Jetfire?

     • I believe the smaller Beretta’s are single/double action. At least the slightly heavier 3032 Tomcat is. The Taurus models are double action only, if I am not mistaken.

       I have heard that the small Tauri are not very reliable, something that is quite necessary with a small caliber pistol.

       • The new 22ply is a lot more dependable than the older pt22’s. You do need to run about 100 rounds through it before you can trust it. Mine loves the CCI minimags. The hollow points don’t matter. The trigger pull is horrible but gets better as it breaks in. After three misfeeds in the first 50 rounds I haven’t had another since. I have run almost 500 rounds thru this pistol and clean the barrel and ramp after I go to the range. I carry mine in an ankle holster for my backup. I bought this pistol mainly because of the ammo shortage. 380acp, 9mm and 45scp are non-existent and I don’t want to use up the ammo I have.
         It was worth the money.

3. I had a Taurus PT-25 and sold it. The gun broke on the new owner, cheap metal. I would not trust this thing either.

4. Am I the only one who saw the picture and thought “PEZ dispenser chambered in .22?”

5. I think that when I was a kid one of my squirt guns looked much like the Taurus PLY pistols.

6. Able-bodied men often forget (or ignore) the fact that some people can’t handle the recoil of a .38, or even a .32. That group includes women who have very small hands and people who have arthritis. For people who are in that group and want the ability to defend themselves, a .22 or a .25 is the only answer. It’s also important to remember that a small caliber offers low recoil for a better chance at quick and accurate follow-up shots. These Taurus pistols differ from the Beretta models in that they’re double action only–a simpler configuration, even if the trigger pull is longer. Time will tell if these polymer versions of the PT-22 and PT-25 are reliable and durable, but the early reviews are mostly positive.

   • to you I say baretta 21. all steel, quality manufacture , time tested, and mine has never had a FTF.
     this type of gun must go bang and feed every time. that ‘s why I picked 25 over 22. slick fmj bullet and center fire priming.

     If the very limited 25 is what you want, I think its the best choice.

     • I used to have a pt22, a Tomcat 3032, and still have an Inox 21 ( SS Slide & Barrel)
       The Berettas all had aluminum frames (steel slide & barrel). I think my Taurus pt22 had an aluminum frame.
       I get the idea plastic is lighter, and corrosion-resistant, but, it seems most Plastics are bigger, adding bulk. I wonder if that is where carbon fiber enters the picture?

7. I’d be willing to take another stab at one, but it better be inexpensive.

   • About $200.

     • Or $800 profit if you planted it on someone and ratted them out in Newark.

       • Too funny

8. You’ve got to remember, Taurus is based in brazil and middle and south Americans tend to go full retard on caliber selection. They are just pandering to the market.

   • Actually, we Brazilians would love to have larger calibers like we can have here in the states, but the government restricts them to law enforcement and the military.

   • Mine is made in Florida

9. “We hear of an unfortunate woman who, during a nighttime asthma attack, confused the small handgun she kept under her pillow with an asthma inhaler and proceeded to relieve her symptoms. It was not a fatal mistake, partly because she used a .25 ACP, which everyone knows is not sufficient to clear sinuses.” Jeff Cooper.

   • love jeff, but in real life real close , people get distracted from attacking you if you shoot them a few times. I am old(er) and there were no micro 9’s when I got mine. I handle it very carefully, if you accidently shoot someone with it they could die.

   • Perhaps you would like to stand a few feet away while I take my Taurus PT-25 and try to “clear your sinuses” for you?

     I have yet to find any hard asses who measure their penis size by the caliber of the gun they carry who are willing to get into a gun battle with me at a 10 foot shooting distance with the gun of their choice but with me getting the first shot with my .25.

     Point being my reason to carry a pistol in the first place is to save my life. Given the racket the PT-25 makes it is generally going to let me fire 4 or 5 shots as I run for my life. Yes, there are circumstances that a bazooka would be a better choice for a weapon but they don’t fit quite as comfortably in my front pocket. The PT-25 is so easy to slip in the pocket, weighs little for the protection it offers, has never/ever not fired with any ammo I used and I never forget to take it with me. And that last sentence is the most important part of all because it doesn’t matter what the caliber of the pistol if it is too big to carry comfortably there will be times you just say “Screw it, I ain’t hauling that hunk of lead with me today”.

   • Jeff, any perp who receives two or three rounds of .25 ACP center mass from 9 to 15 feet away ( the most common self defense distances ) probably isn’t going to care what caliber just killed him. Most folks are trained to shoot until the threat stops. I suspect a few 25 caliber holes in his chest will accomplish that goal.

10. i’d rather a jetfire update than a bobcat copy.

11. Stole the design from Beretta – or licensed it.

    S’alright – I gots my .32 Tomcat, and I know it will work. Every time.

    • Sounds like Taurus pulled….well…..a Taurus. Some of their top sellers are Beretta knock offs (Taurus 92, anyone?).

12. I have this gun and it’s been great so far. The sights are excellent and it’s very comfortable to shoot. I really like the way it looks and it’s also very light. It comes with a tip-up barrel for convenience and 9 + 1 rounds.

13. I just bought one of these and I like it. I suppose it’s always better to have the biggest gun, but I fail see why a 22LR is considered inadequate for close range self defense.

    I think being hit by one of these bullets would take the fight out of just about anyone. If it’s going to be an ongoing gun battle, yeah, I would wish I had a 44 mag. with a long barrel and a scope.

    For me it’s what will I actually carry, and even this little automatic is at the upper edge size wise of what I would call concealed and comfortable to carry in the summer heat wearing jeans and a T-shirt. The Taurus seems well made and I like the fact it has a safety rather than just relying on the double action long trigger pull to prevent firing as many small automatics do. It’s even Made in America, according to what is stamped on the barrel. That might mean “assembled in America”, but that’s better than nothing.

    Still, I want one of the tiny North American Arms revolvers which I could comfortably carry all the time.

14. I have a PLY-22 stainless and it is very reliable with good high velocity ammunition. CCI Mini Mag and Velocitors work very well. I also have a Beretta 21A in .22lr and like the Taurus just as much.

15. thaks to the last two posters who actually gave their impressions of the gun that they have actually handled and fired. I generally like TTAG as teh reviews are extensive, but this commentary is hardly noteworthy and calls into question the usefulness of the entire site. I guess I’ll have to take the “truth” about guns with a grain of salt going forward.

16. I have the Taurus as well as both the Berreta .22 and .32. I find the Taurus much more user friendly than either Berreta. Because of the safety and lack of need to rack the slide the Taurus is now my daily concealed carry choice. I have an NAA in .22lr, a Glock 26 and 19 along with a Ruger in .38o and a Taurus revolver in .22 magnum. I like them all but the PTY .22 is still the best fit for a walk around firearm for my use. My wife and daughter each have several compact firearms for concealed carry but each has, after a lot of comparison range use, opted to add a Taurus PLY for daily carry; easy to use, very reliable in our collective experience, and nine rounds. wife previously carried either her Smith and Wesson revolver in .22, a Taurus revolver in .38 or her Taurus .380 semi-auto. Even in my Vietnam days, a .22 was a constant companion. I suspect you might like the tip- up, DAO Taurus if you get to put some range time on one. For us, the bigger calibers are house favorites (urban, usual crime area) and the .22 travels with us.

17. This pistol is great for people with weaker hands. I have a newer pt-25 poly, and the trigger isn’t bad. I bought it with the significant other in mind, because she has smaller hands. After shooting my colt detective special and PK380, I bought that, and she said it’s perfect. A polymer revolver would have probably broken her wrist. The 22lr has killed a whole lot of people, these pistols have a niche that they fill quite well. That being said, I just carry mine because I am lazy and don’t feel like carrying anything bigger in the central Florida summer.

    • I agree, I bought my daughter-in-law a Ruger LCR and she couldn’t handle the standard 38 loads. Got her a LCP in 380acp and she could barely handle it. She could not rack the slide. This little 22 was the answer.

18. I just purchased a pt25 for my wife. I have shot 500 rounds through it without a single ftf. The gun shoots nice and accurate. I feel it is a very nice gun for the money.

19. Bad gun

20. I have a PLY22 and a Beretta Bobcat and a Ruger LCP II 22, of the three the Taurus is easily the most reliable but the cheapest feeling, it was the cheapest of the three so that’s not a deal breaker. The posts above saying it was copied from Beretta make it sound like a knock off, the truth is that Beretta built a lot of firearms in Brazil and turned over all equipment to Brazil when they left who then gave it to Taurus who also eventually acquired Rossi with their smith and Wesson machinery, Taurus builds pistols and revolvers, some on old Beretta and Smith and Wesson patterns, but so does every other firearms manufacturer, they all borrow from designs of other manufacturers. Taurus makes some real winners and some duds, so does everyone else. I think my copy of the PLY22 is great at being a reliable pocket pistol, it carries less than the Ruger but has proven to be more reliable with CCI ammo, it weighs less than the bobcat and is also more reliable. The merits of a 22lr pistol can be argued on another day but for being a 22 pistol the Taurus does well.

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