New for 2015 and in stark contrast to some other companies, Taurus gives you wings. Well, they’ve given the TCP wings. For those with diminished finger, grip, or arm strength and/or limited dexterity, it can be quite difficult to rack and manipulate the slide on a semi-automatic pistol. Folding wings on the TCP allow for an AR-15 charging handle-like grasp or for pushing against a solid object (or your belt, pocket, etc) to very easily and confidently rack the slide. The Model 85 revolver now has a convertible hammer. And the View has 100% less View. Photos and details follow. . .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_LFr5hBZps
In the video above, a Taurus factory rep gives us the highlights on these new features.
With a quarter turn, the hammer spur can be removed from the hammer. Off for sleek concealed carry, on for single action shooting at the range. It clicks in there solidly so I think there’s some sort of detent or spring system holding it in place.
Above you see the Curve’s “Bore-axis sighting system for instinctual shooting.”
Calling the Curve a TCP in a new suit isn’t actually much of a stretch. It’s mostly the same internally and functionally, even down to the magazine body, internal hammer, and really smooth and quite light trigger. It will be available with and without the integrated light and laser.
That’s the View. Only not. Gone is the Lexan sideplate, and in its place is a decidedly opaque piece of metal. Robert from Taurus called it the “Non-View” but I’m thinking that’s a working title. Still, a hand hammerer by any other name would smart as sweet. The grip reminds me a bit of a chicken drumstick, so I’m going to suggest Taurus names it the “Thunder Chicken.”
Rather than wings, one could just go for the H&K VP9. My wife has arthritis in her hand and elbows. The VP9 is a breeze for her to rack. The V9 does have little tips on the end of the slide which help the grip. Easier recoil spring is the most helpful.
Her next pistol planned is a CCP. 🙂 All the other compact 9’s have stiffer springs than a full size 9.
look at waltherforums. the ccp seems to be a piece of junk.
Mine was fine but considering the severity of complaints and how many there seem to be, I’d certainly wait a while before considering buying one and I’d inspect it closely before actually purchasing.
The Sig 238 and the S&W mousegun(shield?) also have very light actions as well. I ran into that problem helping an x-gf find a pistol she could use well. Those two were easy for her.
Cool story bro… Now if they made guns that worked properly I would be impressed.
Yeah, with decent triggers too.
Real rocket science there. At least to Taurus.
John
For the record, my TCP has been flawless and it’s generally a very solid pistol although I think it’s fair to say there is a higher percentage of “lemons” than with some other brands. The TCP has an excellent trigger though for sure.
Funny, mine works fine.
Maybe you should get with the times… bro.
I’ve had to send back more S&W pistols than Taurus pistols. I’d buy a Taurus over a smith.
New from Taurus, guns you don’t want for problems that don’t exist or have better answers.
And now, a list of things a Taurus board meeting has never included?
How is someone supposed to hold on to a TCP with diminished hand strength? How are they expected to unfold the wings? What’s wrong with a cocking handle affixed to a regular weapon? Why are you looking at the lockwork while you’re shooting? Does printing in good holsters really cause a huge issue? Should we improve parts availability and quality control? Do Brazilian waxes remove too much hair?
Damn, that was my post and its posted under some lame Jesse name. Honestly, what is this, full house, I’ve got full on knife hand, aneurism vein popping fury right now
Still just a Taurus. Half are probably broken before shipped and the other half break before making it to the range.
Yeah, Taurus kinda has a shitty reputation, but I’m diggin’ some of these designs. Even if they are incredibly ugly, I think innovative designs are good for the industry.
The Taurus Curve is more like the Taurus Turd.
And yes, there’s something weird going on with your comments autofilling something that isn’t mine into the name and email fields.
John
I think people will be losing alot of those hammer spurs. Each gun should come with a bag of replacment spurs.
Also, this is not my name.
Somebody else’s name and email are showing up when I comment (I deleted it and replaced it with my own) which means my name and email is probably being shown to others and it is not cool. Fix it, or shut off the comments.
I guess I am the only one who sees these ideas as useful. The option of removing the hammer spur for concealed carry and replacing it for range time or open carry is sweet. The wings could be better designed I guess, but if they function that is a great idea. I have seen similar fixed wings (lol) for a few pistols, but wish they were more readily available. My wife would be a lot happier with her sr9c with an easier grasp for racking the slide.
I own two Tauri, a 605 and a pt1911, and both work well right out of the box. Maybe I am just lucky.
Taurus has some neat ideas there. Someone at that company has some creative brains.
I would say “Beware of novelties” though. Sometimes when a company stocks their product full of novelties, it’s because they’re compensating for something.
How is someone with limited grip strength or dexterity supposed to get those little wings folded out when the crap is going down?
True. Which is why a couple flared wings fixed in place would probably be better. There is someone who makes a product that does that, meshes with the serrations to hold in place.
I am pretty sure the point is to use them way before the crap goes down and carry the gun loaded.
Yeah. It’s so you can chamber a round at home then you put the wings down and put it in your holster. Then when you’re done carrying you can unload the gun with the help of the wings.
A lot of folks are calling it a novelty but I think there’s a market for it. Smaller women, older folks, etc are going to appreciate this and it does actually work. The TCP is a controllable, fairly light-recoiling pistol with a light, smooth trigger. The slide is actually pretty easy to rack but it is the stumbling block for a “weak” person. These things will serve a real purpose there. Heck, I purchased a few pistols, including my HK P7, off of an older gentleman who was selling his entire semi-auto collection due to a lack of finger strength. He could no longer manipulate the slides. I’m quite confident he wouldn’t have had an issue with this pistol.
But yes, I’d agree with some comments that it likely isn’t very easy to deploy the wings if you have bad arthritis. Not really sure. They poke up just enough that all you really have to do is drag a finger across the top of the slide, rather than requiring you to actually “pick” the top of the wing and pull it out. But who knows. Might be difficult to see and do if you’re old and have bad arthritis. It’ll help a big group of people though for sure.
I’ve seen something similar advertised aftermarket for Glocks too, I’ve heard they work wonders, but they don’t fold.
Seriously, everyone hates how the curve looks. And by everyone I mean (mostly male) gun enthusiasts. If it came in colors, and had a more style-friendly brand name (like Beretta, or, better, Gucci), my wife would love that thing.
You can give Taurus crap but they are the only company trying new things right now.
Bingo. A lot of the stuff might not be game-changing but at least they’re trying to innovate, something sorely lacking in handguns right now.
I made a comment on the story about no more Colt revolvers. If Colt would try being innovative like Taurus they would certainly be head of the class. I REALLY REALLY hate the Taurus View…but I still want to buy one because I’m positive it will be a fabulous flop and a curiosity many years from now. Either way Taurus will accomplish thier goal….to get me, to give them money.
“Letting a hundred flowers blossom and a hundred schools of thought contend is the policy for promoting progress….”:-)
love the “wings” good idea
T.C.P = Taurus crap pistol
I hear this a lot from people who have never held or shot one. Despite being slightly embarrassed when I tell people that I own and sometimes carry a Taurus, the fact remains that I think the TCP is one of the very best, if not the very best micro .380 pistol on the market. I’ve shot most all of them and the TCP is the only one that has stayed in my safe. It has been absolutely 100% unquestionably reliable for me, is ridiculously accurate, weighs nothing, looks good, and has a truly excellent trigger that is light and so very smooth. I really wanted to like the Beretta Pico when I reviewed it, as I EDC a Beretta Nano, but it was simply not as good as the TCP. The two Picos I had went back, and the TCP remains in my safe and sometimes on my hip or in a pocket.
Shhh. The more people sling shit at Taurus, the cheaper their guns are for the rest of us 😉
the wings are absolutely genius! my sister has absolutely terrible arthritis and we have yet to find a gun that she can rack. She can fire them with some pain but its nearly impossible for her to pull back the slide. just genius
Sweet im now shooting thr bull 410
Yeah Jeremy I agree. Had 4 Tauri that ran perfectly. As a middle-aged newbie too. The spur idea is genius. Not a fan of the view but I bet they sell a lot. BTW SOMEONE IS TRYING TO HIJACK MY EMAIL AND USER NAME!
I wonder how long until those wings break off?
I am a Taurus fan boy, own 12 Taurus guns. all but 2 are semi-auto’s.
Funny thing is, all I hear is people bad mouthing them, and most have never shot one!
NONE, I repeat,None of mine have ever failed to go bang. PT145 has over 4000 rounds
through it and never a problem, no longer carry a cal smaller than 9mm but owned a TCP
for 4 years. Yes folks, it always went bang………..
I am going to venture a guess that most problems with Taurus arise from not breaking them down
and doing a deep cleaning before they are shot.
Please keep hating on them gun-snobs, just leaves more for me and others to buy, and laugh
when they function as good as a much more expensive gun.
I think the tide MAY be turning David. My next gun will probably be Millenium G2 in 9 or 40 for next to nothing. And I’ll get it to work fine. And outshoot the GLOCK fanboy next to me at the range. To this old guy the best bang for the buck. I’ve gotten all kinds of abuse for suggesting people don’t know what they’re doing…whatever.
BTW Taurus mentioned to me that prices are likely going down on most of their product line. The Millennium G2, for instance, will apparently be easy to find for sale for $299 or possibly less. I’ve seen the TCP as low as $169. I mean… these are damn low prices.
I can see using the line “grab a Taurus by the horns,” but who thought of calling them “wings”? They need to switch to selling Chevy Novas across the border.
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The removable hammer spur is an interesting idea. Just don’t lose it.
The wings on the TCP might be helpful for a small fraction of users.
The New View? “Eh.” The lexan sideplate is a gimmick, and not the reason i wouldn’t get one.
10 months later, and where exactly is this “TCP with wings”? Nowhere. Where is this “Model 85 with a convertible hammer”? Nowhere. The exact same place you can find the SCCY CPX-3, nowhere. Nice business models.
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