Savage Introduces Fox A Grade Series Side-By-Side Shotguns

1. Must. Not. Spend. More Money…on…. pretty wood.
   Damnit.

   • Seriously, I make it through the 90s without spending a dime on hookers and blow and now I’m going broke buying dead trees? Jesus…

     • The serenity prayer is of little protection in the face of such temptation. My drug of choice lately is mammoth ivory. I find myself sneaking peaks of what’s available late night and hit alt-tab when my wife walks in the room. I tasted blackwood this week. Sooner or later it is going to be swamp kauri too.

       • We had to offload all of out mammoth ivory at the shop before July 1st.
         The low information voters in the state decided you couldn’t buy it or sell it to protect endangered species…

       • Um? Mammoth? Endangered? I need a lie down now.

       • What I didn’t get about this anti ivory movement was the burning of those huge ivory piles in Kenya last year. Selling it would have flooded the market and lowered the price somewhat and thus some of the motivation to poach more. It would also have provided income to help the poverty stricken people there. I love ivory, but even I wouldn’t kill an elephant to get it, but if it is already dead, I don’t see any ethical problem. I am buying mammoth ivory at the rate of 4 – 6lbs per year so that I will have a supply for all of my grip needs in the future. The stuff I have gotten is not to mineralized and machines excellently. You can easily get enough for a 1911 for a couple hundred bucks at the most and it looks and feels wonderful.

       • There was a posting online by a mother asking why the eclipse next week was scheduled for them kids would be going back to school.

         They’re out there – and they vote.

2. That…..is a sexy gun. My recent move to Montana might require a new upland bird gun.

3. Aw, I saw Savage and thought someone had finally made a budget friendly side-by-side. Just because you can get a pump gun for less than 200 now doesn’t mean side-by-sides aren’t fun.

   • You’re thinking of a gun like the Savage 311.

     A Fox-made shotgun, either AH Fox or Sterlingworth, is not a 311. They’re not in the same league of gun.

4. Another Power ball fantasy gun

5. Thidwick The Big-Hearted Moose is easily Dr. Seuss’s masterpiece.

   • “i had trouble in getting to solla sollew.”

     mr. geisel puts forth a fine argument for self defense. he basically says don’t run from your problems, pick up a bat and have at it.
     pretty elusive title for a seuss book. recommended.

6. I had two Fox shotguns, an A and a B. The B was really nice but I sold them both years ago when I finally admitted to myself that I shot an over and under far better than a SXS. I think they were the best made American shotgun of the era, better than Parker. They remained tight through decades of use.

   Anyway it is nice to see Savage is making the Fox again provided what they are making is a real Fox. Back in the 1960s they marketed a shotgun they called a Fox that was really nothing more than a Stevens with better wood. A piece of junk really. I know, I owned on of those too.

7. Can they not spell gauge correctly??

   • For $5k, you get to spell it any way you’d like.

   • Your thought-crime has no effect on them. The dictionary is fascist.

8. Unabated lust, unrequited love. Except in my wildest dreams…..

9. Ok, I’ll bite, where is this made? Turkey maybe??

   • Connecticut Shotgun makes A.H. Fox, so these might be rebranded as Savage. CSMC makes a lot of other shotguns, like DP-12.

   • I would assume they are still made in New Britain, CT, as they have been for a long time. But I’ll ask.

     • Verified. Still made in Connecticut by Connecticut Shotgun. That makes this a pretty damn good deal.

10. Yessss!. Quite!

    A piece of artwork that is capable in the field.

    In the “lust” category like the Beretta Paralello.

    http://www.beretta.com/en-us/486-parallelo/

    Decisions ….decisions….

11. My Mossberg 500 combo with 2 barrels cost me less than the sales tax on this gun. I think I will keep it and not buy a double barrel I don’t need.

    • I think most of us have guns we don’t “need”. whats one more? I’ve got at least 3 Glocks and a couple SIGs i don’t “need”. At least this one would be a gun i didn’t need that looks good. I’m also accepting donations the fund this purchase.

    • This gun is not about utility at bargain basement prices. It is about art, and as art, no one needs it but many desire it. Some people will pay millions for a Rembrandt or Chagall, others will merely shrug and buy a velvet Elvis. Each to his own. If I were rich, I’d buy this just because it is beautiful, not because it can be used to hunt birds.

      • Mark, you had me nodding along with you all the way… then you hit me twixt the eyes with “Velvet Elvis.” I thought, “Crap, I’m the ‘Velvet Elvis’ gun guy!”

        Hmm, might just change my moniker on here… sure, since I have to type it every time now!

        • I prefer Dogs Playing Poker myself. But then I have refined tastes.

12. They lost me when they didn’t make a 16 bore.

    • Galazan (aka CSMC) is making AH Foxes in 12, 16, 20, 28 and .410. The 12’s above are very plain-jane.

      The higher grade guns are available in 16 gauge to .410 bores:

      http://03ca987.netsolhost.com/ctshotgun/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/FoxCatalog.pdf

      • But are they rated for steel shot? CA resident, here.

        • I don’t know. Krupp steel barrels are an option, according to the catalog.

          I’m sure CSMC would be able to answer this.

13. Buy a Dickinson (Turkish Akus) SxS for $2000 at Cabelas and save the 3 grand for more guns or a hunting trip. They are quality with good looks. Do some research and you will find they get top railings for best SxS for the money. When an American company makes a quality side by side for a reasonable price I will buy one, but until then, looks like the Turks get my $$.

    • $5000 for a quality double-barreled gun with excellent finish and nice (but not extraordinary) wood is in the ballpark of what I’d expect.

      The “best gun” variants of the AH Fox guns that CSMC is putting out cost many thousands less than British or European (esp. German) best guns. In their market, they’re priced pretty well.

14. Looks like a touch under $4300 on GunBroker. Pretty fair price for Connecticut shotgun manufactured SxS. It’s a thing of beauty!

15. That’s not a bad price, considering what it would cost to buy a AH Fox kit (made of genuine NOS Fox parts), barrels, stock wood, etc – and have a gunmaker/gunsmith turn the kit into an AH Fox for you.

16. Uh, had no clue that Fox shotguns were as high dollar as they were.

    As it is, I have an old Fox 16ga SXS of my grandfathers sitting in the safe. I doubt it’s worth much, not that I’d sell anyway, but seems it’s worth looking into.

    • IMHO if you’re going to have a dedicated upland bird gun it should be a 16ga.

    • If you haul out the shotgun sometime, have a look to see if it says “AH Fox” or “Sterlingworth” on the receiver.

      The Sterlingworths aren’t worth lots of money – perhaps $800 to $2500. AH Fox shotguns – well, those can be a different issue.

      If you haul it out, flip me the s/n with “XX” for the last two digits in an email and I’ll look in my Blue Book and other references what I can determine.

17. CSMC may “make” the gun, but i’ll bet it’s assembled in the US from Turkish parts. Too bad they didn’t mention the weight because if it’s a feathery 6-7 pounds it’s gonna belt you pretty good. Nobody has yet figured out a way to make all that fine checkering and fancy case hardening reduce recoil. However, if you’re just going to prance about the heath in your tweedy best while seldom pulling a trigger you’ll probably be ok.

18. All that money for a firearm that contains NO plastic? What a rip off.

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