Many industry types called 2016 “the year of the pistol caliber carbine,” but 2017 may beat it yet. Fresh off the presses is the following announcement about the Trojan Firearms PRO9V1 series, which is a line of GLOCK magazine AR platform carbines . . .
Trojan Firearms Introduces 9mm PRO9V1 Rifles
Phoenix, AZ – May 30, 2017 – Trojan Firearms has introduced their new line of 9mm AR platform carbines: the PRO9V1 series. These rifles are not just converted AR-15’s, but the Phoenix, Arizona based company specifically designed a pistol caliber carbine from the ground up for superior reliability, whilst still retaining the handling of the standard AR platform. During the engineering process, particular attention was given to improve the common issues found in the majority of 9mm carbine blow back gas systems.
All PRO9V1 rifles are CNC machined using high-grade aircraft billet aluminum in the lower, upper and hand rail. The lower features Teflon® coated springs and detent pins, as well as an enhanced flared mag well. The 16-inch light weight contour barrel is made of 4150V steel with Nitride finish and features a Grater Gen II 9mm tunable muzzle brake. Other great features on the PRO9V1 include a Gen II ambidextrous charging handle and the Trojan Firearms adjustable drop-in trigger group.
The two models in this new product series are the PRO9V1-G (MSRP $1,399.00) which is compatible with 9mm Glock® magazines, and the PRO9V1-M (MSRP $1,549.99) which is compatible with 9mm MBX/STI 2011 magazines. The PRO9V1-G is also available in a California 2017 compliant version (MSRP $1,449.99).
All models are currently available through your nearest authorized Trojan Firearms retailer.
About Trojan Firearms: Trojan Firearms developed from more than 30 years of high- precision machining for the aerospace and weapons defense industries. These industries require high tolerances in every product manufactured regardless of their application. The invaluable experience and techniques gained from 3 decades of success in the aerospace and weapons defense industries has translated into the manufacturing of high-performance firearms and firearms parts. Trojan Firearms takes pride in the quality and attention to detail of their American made products and to offer the highest levels of customer service. To find out more, visit www.trojanfirearms.com.
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I second your sentiment. No way am I paying over $600 for an AR platform carbine in 9mm Parabellum.
^fully agree if this thing was 1000 dollars cheaper I might be game.
I have built from parts several 9mm Glock-mag carbine and pistol builds for myself, family and friends for a lot lot lot less than that. Non-POS builds. But they are not red so…
For that kind of money, for a pcc, I’m buying a Kriss in 10mm.
That’s a lotta cheddar for a 9mm carbine that doesn’t have ‘Heckler & Koch’ stamped into it, and it’s a lot more than a 9mm AR upper and mag adapter for your existing lower.
I don’t think Kel-Tec, ASR and JR have much to worry about. You could buy a Hi-Point for every member of your family for less. Unless you’ve got a big family.
And there’s nothing wrong with a Hi-Point carbine….other than looks. Then again the digital camo version grows on you.
Frankly I’d get a PSAK-47 for 500. Steel 7.62×39 is as cheap as brass 9mm and actually works with a 16 incher.
Trojan Firearms 9mm? I’ll wait for the lubricated Trojan Magnum.
You win.
I would love to see an ar done in a magnum chambering.
Especially apt, since the article right before this recommended “always using a holster.”
Pro (just the) tip, indeed!
Trojan, Durex, whatever would have kept this optical dumpster fire from being born. If you like the visuals of the AR platform fine, but you gotta admit it looks even more cartoonish and awkward with that tiny mag in a much larger well.
Whatever stylistic continuity it had is utterly destroyed by that.
Lol very expensive for what it is. Ill stick to my sub2k gen 2.
Sub2k (gen 2) is a tough gun to shoot as a lefty. The sight alignment forces your face to be low enough that gases and residue from the chamber comes at the right side of the face. I put a cheap red dot on the top rail to elevate my face and added a piece of plastic to deflect spent cartridges, which were smacking my right shoulder. I think the next upgrade will have to be something to do with the awkward oversized, sensative mag release. My right handed friends like the gun but out of box the sub 2k is no good for a lefty
Damn sucks to hear. Yeah as a righty it’s great. Hopefully your upgrades make it more pleasant to shoot.
How do you like your sub2K? I’ve wanted one for years, going back to gen 1, but between scarcity itself and the eventual high prices once found, I’ve never gotten around to picking one up. Do you recall what you paid for yours and could you say you’re pleased with it?
I paid 350ish for mine. The gun needs some tweeks for left handed people as mentioned above. I was on a waiting list for a gen 1 when my lgs said that kel tec sent them a gen 2 so I took it. It’s a good if quirky shooter. I wouldn’t want to engage targets past 200m. I would buy it again but I don’t love it. 3 1/2 -4 out of 5
350 and I am very pleased. It’s a pleasure to shoot and the folding feature is both cool and useful. I’ve had both gens. Gen II is a definite upgrade. Well worth it if you can find one lol
I don’t even want to hear about 9MM carbines. I want a .40 carbine and the sooner the better. I don’t know what the latest rage is about 9MM but it pales in comparison to the .40 caliber. These companies can market all the 9MM they want but they won’t get my money until the offer a good and solid functioning .40 like I want.
Like LCSW said… Sub200 g2 in .40
Mine takes the Glock mags. And an offset red dot.
Runs like a sewing machine and accurate also.
Plus, that folding-in-half-fits-in-a-back pack-thing is just sugar on top.
Indeed it is. My Sub2K Glock 22 model is sweet as can be and one of the most accurate weapons I own.
Fits in to just about any case or pack imaginable and nobody has a clue what it is. Goes well with my model 22 and model 17 pistols. Best bugout system there is.
Lone Wolf makes a .40 Glock-mag-fed AR.
I have one of the 9mm models, works fine.
I agree! There definitely is a need for more 10mm carbine options.
Wow I can get 3 Dpms Ar’s for that many bucks! Stunningly expensive…
“…..whilst…..”? Who the fnck do these people think they are?
I am with IronHead — I want a carbine chambered in .357 Magnum in the worst way. If one were available for $500, I would buy it instantly.
Something about a 20 round magazine with 158 grain goodness exiting the barrel at 2,150 fps or 125 grain goodness exiting the barrel at 2,300 fps gives me chills. Talk about an incredible short range home-defense platform!
(Note: those 158 grain bullets would still be traveling at about 1,700 fps and retain over 1,000 ft-pounds energy at 100 yards!)
I have two carbines in .357 and neither gets more than 1900 fps from an 18 and 19 inch barrel using the same Fed load 158 grain SWC. Even my handloads won’t get any decent accuracy at 2K fps.
As to the 1K fpe at 100 yards, you may want to check your ballistic tables again.
Personally, I’d love to have some of your magic bullets.
I like PCCs, but sticking a buffer tube on a PCC that doesn’t need it means that the stock won’t collapse flush with the receiver, and that’s a deal breaker.
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Pfht. Makes me think of the guns from the game ‘Borderlands’ and the garish colors schemes from the various weapons in it.
Why is it so expensive?
I don’t think that this thing is stupendously expensive, but it costs exactly as much as CMMG Guard (which is a delayed blowback), or a Kahr’s Thompson, while not bringing anything amazing to the table, like a delayed blowback. The competition from the likes of JRC is going to be very difficult for this gun, I’m afraid.
It’s funny that the press release includes a bogus phrase “blowback gas system”. It also touts teflon-coated pins, but neglects to mention if last round hold actually works on this gun (it does on CMMG).
I’m planning to buy a PCC this year, but leaning towards CZ Scorpion Evo3. Being able to use cheaper glock mags is great and all (btw: why is the one that uses more expensive magazines more expensive?) but every AR-pattern PCC I’ve seen at a match has malfed at least once.
Naturally- with all variables considered, the Scorpion is the “best” 9mm pcc on the market. Period, end of story.
Scorpion is a solid gun, more then the kel tec or hi point but much less then this gun and it’s a purpose built pcc
Of course “variables” takes into both price and format flexibility. The scorpion can come in both carbine and pistol length, which then can either be braced or file a form 1.
I think the price is a little high for a manufacturer I’ve never heard of. I’m not saying their price isn’t justified for what they have in it, just that off brand firearms, with little reputation, can sometime be “interesting”. I gladly paid that kind of money for my JP GMR-13, but that’s from JP.
…they cost HOW much?!?!?!
Methinks they may have priced themselves out of the market.
My Beretta CX-4 cost me about half of what they want for that thing, it likely shoots just as well, and it damned sure is better-looking.
I’d love to buy a 9mm carbine, so long as it takes Glock magazines and has its own cool look. That is, I don’t want just an AR chambered in 9mm. I want something that goes a different direction and shakes up the styling a little.
Durability is expected, but over-engineering that drives the price into high three figures or even over $1,000 won’t do.
I’m not saying the Trojan pcc here isn’t good–I don’t even know them–but the specs are outstanding. However, the product development outcome here clearly reflects the influence of engineering and manufacturing personnel’s government contracting experience, and not sales and marketing input for the consumer market.
I’d totally get one. At $600 or less.
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