New York Prosecutors Propose Reducing Jail Time for Gun Crimes While Gun Crime Soars

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Dan Zimmerman
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This really is quite bizarre. On the one hand, we hear progressives telling us that it would be a disaster for public safety if the Supreme Court were to strike down any of New York’s draconian firearms laws. On the other, we hear progressives proposing the abolition of serious punishment for violating those draconian laws. How can this possibly make any sense? In effect, the people who wish to run New York are arguing that the city ought to have the toughest laws in the nation, but that those laws will not be meaningfully enforced against criminals. Say what you will about the looser firearms laws that obtain in, say, Texas, but at least nobody in that state is suggesting that prohibited persons should be treated leniently.

Second Amendment advocates such as myself often argue that, in practice, gun-control activists are much more interested in going after law-abiding people than in targeting criminals. By rigorously enforcing its laws, New York City has long served as an exception to this rule. If it, too, descends into magical thinking and lax administration, it will make a farce of its claim to practicality — and, in turn, of the false-but-popular idea that governments in big cities have a compelling interest in safety that outweighs the protection of our right to keep and bear arms.

— Charles C.W. Cooke in On Guns, New York Wants It Both Ways

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  1. In effect, the people who wish
    to run New York [City] are
    arguing that the city ought to
    have the toughest laws in the
    nation, but that those laws will
    not be meaningfully enforced
    against criminals.

    And that makes perfect sense when the primary objective of the Ruling Class is to consolidate/expand their power and wealth–which necessarily includes creating mechanisms to exert leverage/control over their political enemies.

    Note: common criminals are not political enemies of the Ruling Class. In fact the Ruling Class looks at common criminals as allies in a certain sense since the Ruling Class can use the actions of common criminals to justify increasing the Ruling Class’ power, control, and budgets.

    • Per Ayn Rands observation back in 1957:

      “Did you really think we want those laws observed?” said Dr. Ferris. “We want them to be broken. You’d better get it straight that it’s not a bunch of boy scouts you’re up against… We’re after power and we mean it… There’s no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren’t enough criminals one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What’s there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced or objectively interpreted – and you create a nation of law-breakers – and then you cash in on guilt. Now that’s the system, Mr. Reardon, that’s the game, and once you understand it, you’ll be much easier to deal with.”

      ― Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged

      • Perzactly what the Gunny quoted!

        Power and greed are the Prime motivators of the oligarchs who would rule us.

        • That includes Regulations by various Agencies (ATF, etc.) in addition to “laws” passed by local, State, and Federal authorities.

  2. And they say the left killed comedy.
    DeBlasio and Co. are the funniest improv crew since pre-woke UCB.

  3. These ‘prosecutors’ got their brains from a box of bloomberg’s cracker jacks. The more the screw the people the more bloomie loves them.

  4. Having any law at all becomes pointless. The end result is just busy-work. Why even bother? Just remove all government/law enforcement and let the people do whatever they want however they want. No matter what. Complete and total anarchy.

    These places WILL destroy themselves.

    • But at least we are not racist………….and we legalized pot…………please someone move here. Yeah I fully expect we will have a tax revenue shortage worse than current hit the problem area soon.

  5. The laws don’t exist to prosecute criminals, they exist so they could enforce it if they wanted to.
    You are a political enemy? You already broke 50 laws by just being there and breathing, so they can prosecute you. If they want to. So you better not disagree with the glorious leader!

  6. Meanwhile, if you’re a law abiding citizen who makes an obscure mistake by violating one of their confusing and draconian laws, they will make an example out of you and push to prosecute you to the fullest extent of the law.

  7. I think it’s a great idea. as in
    NEW York says its against the law to shoot somebody however we will do nothing about it if you do.

    • But only if you are nonwhite. The underclasses requires leniency since their circumstances are a function of inherent racism, you see, while white folks have all that privilege and there is no reason not to enforce the letter of the law.

  8. The Left doesn’t want to hold their favorite pets accountable or responsible for anything.

    • Jimmy Beam….The first time I noticed that the demoncrat party loved criminals was during the Jimmy Carter regime. He was the first president that I knew of that said we should be ashamed of our prosperity and our great country. He was the first apologist that I am aware of that went around running down our country while overseas visiting other countries.

    • It is written by the Prophet of Progressivism Karl Marx. Criminals are ideologically close and citizens (or bourgeoisie, which incidentally translates as “urban dweller”) are ideologically apart.

      In the Soviet Union’s gulags criminals received favored treatment and were even used by the camps as enforcers. It really sucked to be a political prisoner because you were on the bottom of the food chain.

  9. If I was a NY politician, and I wanted to reduce ‘gun violence’, I would let criminals who committed gun crimes walk free without repercussions.

    • Wait you are not giving them a place to live, food to eat, and additional money to spend? You are too racist to represent NY. Kidding but less of a joke every week. Oh and free college forgot about that budget buster from two years ago.

  10. More of the same. People commit gun crimes in a disproportionate number and therefore end up in jail for these crimes, then SJW’s claim racism. Empty the prisons of violent criminals to make more room for honest law abiding gun owners. It only makes sense to a liberal.

    • California is now releasing 73,000 state prisoners (i.e. convicted felons) early, of whom 20,000 have been convicted of violent felonies. Something to look forward to.

  11. We might be able to work with them on that –

    Starting with NFA violations, perhaps? 😉

  12. Of course they are. They want the gun crimes to increase so they can justify more restrictions/confiscations.

  13. I for one applaud the efforts of states like NY, California and Oregon to eliminate legal barriers against criminal. Making it easier for criminals to break laws and not face consequences will draw them like flies to fresh cow shit. Turning those states into even bigger Shit Shows than they already are. Thus where will criminals migrate? To states that actually enforce laws and penalize criminals or states like NY, California, Oregon etc. While this is bad for Law Abiding Citizens in these states. Maybe it will force them to get off their dead ass’s and do something to change who’s running the Shit Show to Hell. Votes have consequences and it’s time a lot of people are forced to face that fact.

  14. So you create all sorts of Laws to prevent city citizens from carrying their own protection. Then you do not keep criminals in jail when they break the same Laws. Citizens, disarmed. Criminals, well armed. See the Very Bad trajectory here?

    • Not when your End Game to control over the Sheeple. It’s all about the End game and to these people the End always justifies the Means.

  15. It’s hilarious to me how much effect the UK music scene has had on the US, particularly the “British Invasion” of punk music.

    I would doubt rather strongly that virtually any of the people tagging “A.C.A.B.” on buildings these days know the origin of the term comes from Oi! music, specifically a 1979 song by a British band called The 4-Skins, a song called, shockingly enough “A.C.A.B.” which stands for, again quite shockingly, “All Coppers Are Bastards”. A less than two minute song that lives on today in shitty graf yet virtually no one knows of the song itself.

    ANTIFA and Skinheads?! not something the MSM would ever discuss lol.

    I would further doubt VERY strongly that many people realize how the blending of Hippie, Mod, Punk, Rocker, Ska, Reggae and HipHop culture are responsible for a lot of the oddities like the #MeToo and #BelieveHer movements.

    In fact, I’d trace a lot of the current issues with sex back to a mixture of Mod, Punk and Hippie culture back 50 years ago… an oddball blend that makes little sense unless you consider how music and movie promotion works and realize that these ideas can’t coexist with each other in the same mind without producing cognitive dissonance. In fact, just Punk’s view on females requires an IQ above 100 and the ability to live with some rather Viking-esque ideas in your head.

    Weird how in 1990, or even 2000 a girl with blue hair was probably hot, capable of quoting Nietzsche and other philosophers verbatim, willing and ready to actually debate in a mostly civil way and, failing that, could kick the shit out of a lot of guys she met but even if she lost would laugh about the bruises and the shiner.

    Today, that hair is probably on a disgustingly obese girl in a university LGBTQ department whining about equality, but if she ever actually got it she’d cry about the outcome and switch to demanding equity. Hell, she might even be one of the professors.

    But whatever. Understanding where today’s problems came from isn’t cool to 99% of anyone and even if they were understood they wouldn’t be fixed.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkfwgoQTyrA&feature=emb_title

    • UK had their useless, boneidle, ghetto trash decades before antifags arrived in the US.

        • Oh, and nevermind the sex pistols your understanding of history on this topic is bollocks.

          The precursor to ANTIFA had people throwing firebombs at workers who cross strike lines in Chicago in like 1883.

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