No-Knock This

July 13, 2011

Another home invasion occurs in Phoenix Wednesday morning, after three men wearing masks and carrying guns showed up at the front door of a house claiming they were police officers. They then kicked in the door of the house, which is near 22nd Street and Thomas, police said. The suspects stole wallets and other personal items from the people inside the home. The three left in a car that was also stolen from the home, police said. There were no injuries. Police said there were three family members inside the house at the time.

25 COMMENTS

Tim July 13, 2011 At 10:36

I wonder what the statistical likelihood is that either an home invasion or police raid would occur, in general. My guess the numbers would be pretty close, 50/50 call – I guess we should just flip a coin with our response.
ExurbanKevin July 13, 2011 At 10:50

A few thoughts from a Valley resident on this…

22nd St. + Thomas in the the middle of a Hispanic barrio. This is drug and/or human smuggling related., using tactics pioneered in the streets of Sinaloa or Juarez. I’m guessing the “police” were actually ATF agents looking to recover some lost property. 🙂
irock350 July 13, 2011 At 11:10

And this is why you install kick-proof doors in the Barrio/Ghetto. Metal solid core doors with steel door frame reinforcement and a heavy duty deadbolt, behind an iron safety cage they may get in but it will take a blowtorch and a truck.
- Joe Grine July 13, 2011 At 12:14
  
  Or just move to somewhere safer.
  - Chaz July 13, 2011 At 12:28
    
    If you can afford to do so.
    - ExurbanKevin July 13, 2011 At 12:37
      
      *ding*
      
      This is the correct answer. For the vast majority of the people who live in that neighborhood, there either isn’t anywhere else to go to, or anywhere that’s less dangerous. It’s a question of a 1200 degree frying pan or a 1200 degree fire…
- Dave July 13, 2011 At 18:31
  
  Trouble is, if you’re living in the Barrio/Ghetto, you’re probably renting; landlords tend to frown on tenants doing stuff like that. Also, anyone who can afford all those home upgrades can probably afford rent in a better neighborhood.
- Sean July 13, 2011 At 22:13
  
  +1
  
  ANYWHERE.
JOE MATAFOME July 13, 2011 At 11:41

We’ve had a several home invasions in Lil Rhody over the years and it’s always had something to do with drugs. The crackheads break into the dealers home and try to rip them off.
CUJO THE DOG OF WAR July 13, 2011 At 12:30

I still like the idea of a trap door and pit at the front door. You could keep them like the “milkman room” in Monty Python.
Marty July 13, 2011 At 12:43

That officer is holding a very nice looking AR! Looks like a piston model. Any ideas?
Oh yeah, what was the story about again… ADHD gun nut here..
- Bob H July 13, 2011 At 14:10
  
  It looks like an SBR. Unless the mechanism extends into the stock…
- TTACer July 13, 2011 At 14:20
  
  That’s a Patriot Ordinance w/ monolithic rail for extra taticoolness.
  - Marty July 13, 2011 At 14:34
    
    The upper looks like POF, but what about the lower’s logo?
    Thanks…
    - Bob H July 13, 2011 At 16:02
      
      Here. It is a POF SBR.
      http://www.pof-usa.com/p416/p416119sx.htm
      They’ve added a foregrip, a kidney-shaped sling attachment to the stock, and a sight.
      - Marty July 13, 2011 At 16:37
        
        Hey, thanks for the effort and obviously you are right! The Phoenix Police Rifle logo was confusing me. Pretty sweet rifle…
        Thanks again
Ralph July 13, 2011 At 12:57

Hint: When the cops tell you that they don’t need no stinkin’ badges, they aren’t cops.
Sid July 13, 2011 At 13:29

Cujo, that made me laugh out loud. Not LOL text, but actually laugh.

Joe, what a sad day when even drug dealers have to protect themselves and their products from criminals….. sad…..

A kick-proof door only works on the one doorway. If your windows and doors are not all brought up to “kick-proof” then you are wasting your time. You know when you are in the high crime area because of the bars on windows and doors.
- CUJO THE DOG OF WAR July 13, 2011 At 14:27
  
  Yep, bars on the windows and doors and a bail bondsman next door to every check cashing joint. A sort of rob and release/before and after symbiosis.
James Felix July 13, 2011 At 14:24

Sounds like a job for the Zombie Proof House!
Derek July 13, 2011 At 15:40

That’s it, it’s official. I’m shooting anyone and everyone who kicks in my front door. I don’t care what time it is, what they shout, what they’re wearing, or how many there are. I had reservations about this scenario before, maybe I could steal a peak out the bedroom window and look for cop cars. Maybe, I’d shout down the hall or around the corner that I was armed and demand identification, but no longer. No hesitation, no trepidation. If my front door ever gets kicked in while I’m home, then there’s going to be lead flying one way or another.
- Bob H July 13, 2011 At 16:04
  
  Which is why we all fear SWAT type mistaken raids on our homes.
  - Nicholas Dixon July 13, 2011 At 17:27
    
    If they’d just double check the addresses…
    - Bob H July 14, 2011 At 10:58
      
      and didn’t believe lying junkies and others who will say anything to get their charges lessened…
- SeeSpotRun July 14, 2011 At 21:33
  
  Careful Derek….God forbid this actually happens at your house…your public comments will likely be used against you in your trial. I see many comments like this on these forums and a lot of chest beating…all of which may come back to haunt you.
  
  Those who understand the litigious and sometimes ill-conceived laws of the land will also understand to zip the ol’ pie hole unless one wants to try and dig out from some very premeditative comments.
  
  If you’ve taken a CCW class (with a legal slant) or any home defense training, you’ll be very aware of the ramifications of talking, blogging or commenting about scenarios like this. As for me and my house, I shut my mouth – always.