More modern samizdat art from the new media. This poster succinctly portrays the gun grabbers’ strategy of disarmament by a thousand cuts, or incremental confiscation. The strategy worked in England and Wales (and, one could argue, medieval Japan), but it’s not working in the United States. The current approach is to make guns costly and difficult or impossible to use without severe legal impediments. This is supposed to lead to reduced levels of gun ownership. When gun ownership drops to the point where it becomes politically ineffective, then wide scale confiscation becomes possible . . .
Until that point, incremental confiscation is the name of the game. This is done by expanding the classes of people prohibited from owning guns, incrementally increasing the kinds of guns that are prohibited (too big or too small, too effective, or not effective enough, or scary looking), and aggressively confiscating firearms from people when they or their guns become a member of one of the prohibited classes.
But in the United States, the gun culture has vigorously fought back by making guns more utilitarian through concealed carry laws, as well as enactment of castle doctrine and stand your ground laws. Gun confiscation can only be sold when defense of self and others is de-legitimized. But gun ownership is up, not down, and the total number of guns in the United States is now approaching 400 million, about double what it was 30 years ago.
At the same time, the murder rate has been cut in half, putting the lie to the central claim used to market gun prohibition: more guns = more crime. It turns out that guns either have little effect on crime, or as John Lott endeavored to show, more guns = less crime.
So the civilian disarmers are left trying to market blatant lies, such as “there is an epidemic of gun violence” or “semi-automatic assault rifles are the weapon of choice of criminals.” Both are demonstrably false.
The new media, as exemplified by the poster at the top, means the decidedly anti-gun mainstream media no longer have an oligopoly on the dissemination of information. That’s why they are losing.
©2015 by Dean Weingarten: Permission to share is granted when this notice and link are included.
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Geeze,
She almost looks human!
More bovine, actually.
I wonder if she “Moooos” while she’s getting stroked!
Reading this put a huge smile on my face. Biggest smile all day.
Biggest smile in a while, actually.
Look for a copy of that poster hung on the wall of my office Monday. Sure as shit.
The angle of that picture makes her look unhinged… I love it
+1 If she believes all that utopian rainbows and unicorns gun control emoting gibberish she is unhinged…. From reality…
That picture of Shannon Watts is pure gold. Bearingarms.com uses it every single time they reference her or her ridiculous organization.
I always just preferred keeping it simple:
To the anti’s: Go F Yourself! Come And Take Them.
I already have the permits, receipts, background checks, stamps, trusts, licenses, fingerprints, and photos to have what I have.
My firearms have killed no one. Not even the “evil black ones” that can shoot down airliners and penetrate through schools that your so afraid of,.. Re: Jesse Jackson.
Ya know with the folder thingy.
Enough. Not one more damn inch.
Were not unreasonable. I mean no one’s gonna eat your eyes.
“We’re at an impasse here, maybe we should compromise…”
She does have something of a shambling politi-zombie air to her, doesn’t she?
I never expected to see JC posted on TTAG.
Oh good grief. I just ate lunch, then had to see that?
You gotta admit it looks better than D. F. or H. C.
Now there’s a low bar…
“Oh good grief. I just ate lunch, then had to see that?”
Geeze, Tom!
Show a little consideration for Dirk’s feelings, willya?
+1 If she believes all that utopian rainbows and unicorns gun control emoting gibberish she is unhinged…. From reality…
Glad to see you mentioning John Lott!
BTW, he has more books out than just More Guns, Less Crime. I recently picked up a copy of Freedomnomics.
The crazy eyes are strong with this one.
Good effort. Right idea. Here’s a shorter variation, which might be a teaser in front of the longer inventory:
“Nobody is trying to take your guns. We’re just trying on the sly to make it impossible to have them because we can’t get a ban when people know what we are up to.
For the people! Which ain’t you.”
Here’s some edits on the long form, that still need some work, but there are some good ideas in there:
“Nobody is trying to take your guns. We only want to make them more expensive & harder for you to get, make you register them, restrict transfers, ban certain guns (retroactively, if we can), limit magazine capacity, prohibit carrying them, ban ammo (again arbitrarily and retroactively),
make other arbitrary laws, impose other burdens like on-demand inspection, movement or carry notification, and storage requirements (a burden, reason for burdensome inspections, and opportunity to trip-up: this one is a three-fer),and, if we catch you violating any of these made-up rules, then charge you under any of this as summary punishment just for having a gun, and if we manage to win a conviction, throw you in prison… at which point we will take your guns.”The big deal here is *never*, (never, never, never, never, never) give them a pass on the misunderstandings, or “good” intentions motivating what they do, but *always*, (always, always, always, always, always) call out the actual consequences they’ve created. And don’t take the bait of asserting what their motives are, no matter how sure you are. Like this: “You’re not dumb, so you must have meant to do that (“accidental”) bad thing.”
“That’s not a bug, it’s a feature.” may be true – no, Virginia, random, on-demand home inspections for “proper” gun storage aren’t about safety. BUT, if you say that, you have to make the case. If you point out the consequence, without claiming to know their motives, now *they* have a choice. They’re dishonest, or dumb. (Why not both? This works better if both horns of the dilemma are true.)
“Wow, that doesn’t seem to be working out so well.” is a great opener. If they’re dense, follow by: “Oh, so you meant to have, say, roving patrols of DEA agents covering >60% of the US population, shaking down arbitrary travelers for whatever’s in their pockets or cars? Why’s that?”
The similar inevitable abuses under various gun-wrangling regimes are too many to inventory. BUT make them own the “unanticipated” abuses of the regimes they propose.
Don’t start big, but be willing to go big if that’s where the conversation goes: “So, how many desperate single mothers is it OK to keep from fighting back, because “one gun death is too many?””
Man, surely that will give Dirk second thoughts…
Dean,
Great image.
A truer mission statement and representative characature of the antis could be made.
‘…could *not* be made’.
Ick-I just ate. I’ve seen this before but with the Hildebeast jabbering away…
I think that gun crime is on the rise in Europe and Australia…you have to dig but you can find news stories..there were two drive by shootings in Britain, and a jewelry store owner was shot and killed…..
I think gun crime in Europe is on the verge of being like Miami in the 80s..it is just now starting to go up…..
What will they say now that they have confiscated guns…if the gun crime rate increases?
I can’t speak to Europe or Australia, but I do know that up here in Canada, in Calgary, there were 80 shootings this year, and all were conducted using illegally obtained (mostly smuggled) handguns. All those fine laws certainly haven’t stopped the criminal minded from having their little gang war. The recent fearmongering by the RCMP about the SKS, Vz.58 and M305 doesn’t change how none of those rifles are being used. The Liberal’s campaign promises about making handguns harder (for licensed owners) to buy doesn’t change how none of the criminals bothered with licenses.
As for what the anti-gunners say, well, they don’t say much about what’s going on. They just point at the USA and make up stories about it in an effort to take the guns from the licensed and law-abiding owners here in Canada. I suppose the only real answer they give is the spluttered “b…b…but it could be worse!”. I wonder if the woman who got carjacked (at gunpoint) earlier this week, or the people forced to dive for cover on a busy pedestrian walk (as gunfire rang out), or the guy nearly run over by a murderous driver agree.
I laugh when they trot out that old, tired line. I really do. Right in their faces. Then, I point out all the people who do, and watch them stumble and stammer and run away.
Fmr. President William J. Clinton does.
“And we should — then every community in the country could then start doing major weapon sweeps and then destroying the weapons, not selling them.”
“When we got organized as a country and we wrote a fairly radical Constitution with a radical Bill of Rights, giving a radical amount of individual freedom to Americans …And so a lot of people say there’s too much personal freedom. When personal freedom’s being abused, you have to move to limit it. That’s what we did in the announcement I made last weekend on the public housing projects, about how we’re going to have weapon sweeps and more things like that to try to make people safer in their communities.” – MTV’s “Enough is Enough!”, 22 March, 1994
“We can’t be so fixated on our desire to preserve the rights of ordinary Americans to own firearms … that we unable to think about reality.” – USA Today, 11 March, 1993, pg. 2A
“If the personal freedoms guaranteed by the Constitution inhibit the government’s ability to govern the people, we should look to limit those guarantees.” – 12 August, 1993
“You know the one thing that’s wrong with this country? Everyone gets a chance to have their fair say.” – From his speech in Philadelphia PA City Hall Courtyard, 28 May, 1993
“There is no reason for anyone in this country – anyone except a police officer or military person – to buy, to own, to have, to use a handgun. The only way to control handgun use in this country is to prohibit the guns.” – While signing The Brady Bill, 1993
“The purpose of government is to rein in the rights of the people.” – MTV, 1993
“I feel very strongly about it [the Brady Bill]. I think – I also associate myself with the other remarks of the Attorney General. I think it’s the beginning. It’s not the end of the process by any means.” – 11 August, 1993
Senator Dianne Feinstein (D – CA) does.
“Banning guns addresses a fundamental right of all Americans to feel safe.” – Associated Press, 18 November, 1993.
“If I could have gotten 51 votes in the Senate of the United States for an outright ban, picking up every one of them; “Mr. and Mrs. America, turn ‘em all in,” I would have done it. I could not do that. The votes weren’t here.” – 60 Minutes on CBS, 5 February, 1995.
“The National Guard fulfills the militia mentioned in the Second amendment. Citizens no longer need to protect the states or themselves.”
Senator Frank Launtenberg (D – NJ) did.
“We have other legislation that all of you are aware that I have been so active on, with my colleagues here, and that is to shut down the gun shows.”
He died in 2013.
Fmr. Senator Howard Metzenbaum (D – OH) did.
“No, we’re not looking at how to control criminals … we’re talking about banning the AK-47 and semi-automatic guns.” – Constitution Subcommittee, 2 February, 1989
“I don’t care about crime, I just want to get the guns.”
“What good does it do to ban some guns. All guns should be banned.”
He died in 2008.
Fmr. Representative Charles Pashayan (R – CA) does.
“All of this has to be understood as part of a process leading ultimately to a treaty
that will give an international body power over our domestic laws.” – United Nations Small Arms Conference, 2001
Fmr. Senator H. John Chafee (R – RI) did.
“I shortly will introduce legislation banning the sale, manufacture or possession of handguns (with exceptions for law enforcement and licensed target clubs)… . It is time to act. We cannot go on like this. Ban them!” – Minneapolis Star Tribune pg. 31A, 15 June, 1992
“Mr. President, what is going on in this country? Does going to school mean exposure to handguns and to death? As you know, my position is we should ban all handguns, get rid of them, no manufacture, no sale, no importation, no transportation, no possession of a handgun. There are 66 million handguns in the United States of America today, with 2 million being added every year.” – 11 June, 1992
http://thomas.loc.gov/home/LegislativeData.php?&n=Record&c=102
He died in 1999.
Then-Senator (now Vice President) Joe “Buckshot” Biden (D – DE) does.
“Banning guns is an idea whose time has come.” – Associated Press, 18 November, 1993
Representative Jan Schakowski (D – IL) does.
“I believe…..this is my final word……I believe that I’m supporting the Constitution of the United States which does not give the right for any individual to own a handgun….” – Recorded 25 June, 2000 by Matt Beauchamp
“We want everything on the table. This is a moment of opportunity. There’s no question about it…We’re on a roll now, and I think we’ve got to take the–you know, we’re gonna push as hard as we can and as far as we can.” – The Global Dispatch, 12 March, 2013.
http://www.theglobaldispatch.com/illinois-rep-jan-schakowsky-says-assault-rifle-ban-just-the-beginning-moment-of-opportunity-and-seeks-to-ban-handguns-70067/
http://youtu.be/BVz2lHODQvs – Interview by Jason Mattera
Fmr. Representative Major Owens (D – NY) did.
“We have to start with a ban on the manufacturing and import of handguns. From there we register the guns which are currently owned, and follow that with additional bans and acquisitions of handguns and rifles with no sporting purpose.”
“Mr. Speaker, I rise to introduce the Public Health and Safety Act of 1993 on behalf of myself and nine of my colleagues: Mel Reynolds, Bill Clay, Jerry Nadler, Eleanor Holmes Norton, John Lewis, Nydia Velazquez, Ron Dellums, Carrie Meek, and Alcee Hastings. This legislation, first introduced in the Senate by Senator John Chafee, would prohibit the transfer or possession of handguns and handgun ammunition, except in limited circumstances. It would go a long way toward protecting our citizens from violent crime.
The need for a ban on handguns cannot be overstated. Unlike rifles and shotguns, handguns are easily concealable. Consequently, they are the weapons of choice in most murders, accounting for the deaths of 25,000 Americans in 1991.
A 6-month grace period would be established during which time handguns could be turned in to any law enforcement agency with impunity and for reimbursement at the greater of $25 or the fair market value of the handgun . After the grace period’s expiration, handguns could be turned in voluntarily with impunity from criminal prosecution, but a civil fine of $500 would be imposed.
Exemptions from the handgun ban would be permitted for Federal, State, or local government agencies, including military and law enforcement; collectors of antique firearms; federally licensed handgun sporting clubs; federally licensed professional security guard services; and federally licensed dealers, importers, or manufacturers.
The Public Health and Safety Act of 1993 represents a moderate, middle-of-the-road approach to handgun control which deserves the support of all members of Congress who want to stop gun murders now.” – Congressional Record, 10 November, 1993
http://thomas.loc.gov/home/LegislativeData.php?&n=Record&c=103
He died in 2013.
Representative Bobby Rush (D – IL) does.
“My staff and I right now are working on a comprehensive gun-control bill. We don’t have all the details, but for instance, regulating the sale and purchase of bullets. Ultimately, I would like to see the manufacture and possession of handguns banned except for military and police use. But that’s the endgame. And in the meantime, there are some specific things that we can do with legislation.”
Fmr. Representative Craig Anthony Washington (D – TX) does.
“This is not all we will have in future Congresses, but this is a crack in the door. There are too many handguns in the hands of citizens. The right to keep and bear arms has nothing to do with the Brady Bill.” – Mark-up hearing on The Brady Bill, 10 April, 1991
Fmr. Massachusetts State Governor and State House Representative Michael Dukakis (D) does.
“I do not believe in people owning guns. Guns should be owned only by [the] police and military. I am going to do everything I can to disarm this state.”
Fmr. Representative Henry Waxman (D – CA) does.
“If someone is so fearful that they are going to start using their weapons to protect their rights, it makes me very nervous that these people have weapons at all.”
Fmr. Representative William Lacy Clay, Sr. (D – MO) does.
“The Brady Bill is the minimum step Congress should take…we need much stricter gun control, and eventually should bar the ownership of handguns, except in a few cases.” – St. Louis Dispatch, 6 May, 1991
Senator Charles Ellis Schumer (D – NY) does.
“We’re here to tell the NRA their nightmare is true! … We’re going to hammer guns on the anvil of relentless legislative strategy. We’re going to beat guns into submission!” – NBC Nightly News, 30 November, 1993
Representative Shiela Jackson Lee (D – TX) does.
“I would personally just say to those who are listening, maybe you want to turn in your guns.”
Fmr. Representative Mel Reynolds (D – IL) does.
“If it were up to me, We’d ban them all.” – CNN Crossfire, 9 December, 1993
Fun Fact: Mel Reynolds resigned from Congress in 1995 after a conviction of statutory rape.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=10770284
Fmr Representative Stehphen J Solars (D – NY) did.
“Mr. speaker, we must take swift and strong action if we are to rescue the next generation from the rising of tide armed violence. That is why today I am introducing the Handgun Control Act of 1992. This legislation would outlaw the possession, importation, transfer or manufacture of a handgun except for use by public agencies, individuals who can demonstrate to their local police chief that they need a gun because of threat to their life or the life of a family member, licensed guard services, licensed pistol clubs which keep the weapons securely on premises, licensed manufacturers and licensed gun dealers.” – 12 August, 1992
http://thomas.loc.gov/home/LegislativeData.php?&n=Record&c=102
He died in 2010
Fmr. U.S. Senator and Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton (D – NY) does.
“I’m personally all for taxing guns to pay for health care coverage.”
“The first step is to take weapons off the streets and to put more police on them. The Brady Bill, which my husband signed into law in 1995, imposes a 5-day waiting period for gun purchases, time enough for authorities to check out a buyer’s record and for the buyer to cool down about any conflict he might have intended the gun to resolve. Since it was enacted, more than 40,000 people with criminal records have been prevented from buying guns. The 1994 Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act banned 19 types of military-style assault weapons whose only purpose is to kill people.”
Fun Fact: There is no evidence, empirical or otherwise, that suggests that the federal “Assault Weapons” Ban had any effect on crime whatsoever. It’s been suggested that the extremely low prosecution and conviction rates (0.05% and 0.017% respectively for 2010) of background check failures actually speaks to an extremely high (93%) false positive rate. SOURCE: Enforcing The Brady Act 2010.
https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/bjs/grants/239272.pdf
“If you own a gun… make sure it’s locked up and stored without the ammunition. In fact, make it stored where the ammunition is stored separately. We’ve made some progress in the last several years with the Brady Bill and some of the bans on assault weapons, but we have a lot of work to do.” – “Good Morning America”, ABC, 4 June, 1999
“We have to do everything possible to keep guns out of the hands of children, and we need to stand firm on behalf of the sensible gun control legislation that passed the Senate and then was watered down in the House. It does not make sense for us at this point in our history to turn our backs on the reality that there are too many guns and too many children have access to those guns-and we have to act to prevent that.” – National Education Association in Orlando, 5 July 1999
“We will not make progress on a sensible gun control agenda unless the entire American public gets behind it. It is really important for each of you [kids] to make sure you stay away from guns. If you have guns in your home, tell your parents to keep them away from you and your friends and your little brothers and sisters.” – South Side Middle School Forum, Nassau County, 15 July, 1999
“I stand in support of this common-sense legislation to license everyone who wishes to purchase a gun. I also believe that every new handgun sale or transfer should be registered in a national registry, such as Chuck is proposing.” – CNN.com, 2 June, 2000
“We need to stand firm on behalf of sensible gun control legislation. We have to enact laws that will keep guns out of the hand of children and criminals and mentally unbalanced persons. Congress should have acted before our children started going back to school. I realize the NRA is a formidable political group; but I believe the American people are ready to come together as a nation and do whatever it takes to keep guns away from people who shouldn’t have them.” – http://www.Hillary2000.org, “Gun Safety”, 9 Sepmtember, 2000
“A month after the Columbine shootings, Bill & I went to Littleton Colorado to visit with the families of victims & survivors. The Columbine tragedy was not the first, nor the last, episode involving gun violence at an American high school. But it ignited a call for more federal action to keep guns out of the hands of the violent, troubled and young–a lethal combination. Bill and I announced a proposal to raise the legal age of handgun ownership to 21, and limit purchases of handguns to one per month.” – Living History by Hillary Rodham Clinton, p. 503-504, 1 November, 2003
“He had been involuntarily committed as a threat to himself & others. And, yet, he could walk in and buy a gun.” While Seung-hui Cho did have a court-documented history of mental illness that should have made him a ‘prohibited person’ because he was found to present “an imminent danger to himself as a result of mental illness“ in a ruling dated 14 December, 2005, the judge did not check a box that would have declared Cho ”an imminent danger to others.“ Additionally, the judge declined to involuntarily commit Cho and instead sent him to out-patient counseling. – FactCheck, 2007 South Carolina Democratic Debate, 26 April, 2007
“I am against illegal guns, and illegal guns are the cause of so much death and injury in our country. I also am a political realist and I understand that the political winds are very powerful against doing enough to try to get guns off the street, get them out of the hands of young people. I don’t want the federal government preempting states and cities like New York that have very specific problems. We need to have a registry that really works with good information about people who are felons, people who have been committed to mental institutions. We need to make sure that that information is in a timely manner, both collected and presented. We do need to crack down on illegal gun dealers. This is something that I would like to see more of. We need to enforce the laws that we have on the books. I would also work to reinstate the assault weapons ban. We now have, once again, police deaths going up around the country, and in large measure because bad guys now have assault weapons again.” – 2008 Democratic Debate, Las Vegas, NV
Fun Fact: The death of police officers in the line of duty have been steadily going down along with violent crime rates since the 1990s, and so-called “assault weapons” – which do not even exist – account for less than 1% of all homicides and an equally small percentage of officer deaths.
“I will be a good partner, for cities like Philadelphia, as president. Because I will bring back the so-called COPS program, where we had 100,000 police on the street, which really helped drive down the crime rate and also helped create better community relations. I will also work to reinstate the assault weapons ban. We had it during the 1990s. It really was an aid to our police officers, who are now once again, because it has lapsed–the Republicans will not reinstate it–are being outgunned on our streets by these military-style weapons. I will also work to make sure that police departments get access to the federal information that will enable them to track illegal guns, because the numbers are astounding. Probably 80% of the guns used in gun crimes got there illegally. And under the Republicans, that information was kept from local law enforcement.” – Philidelphia primary debate, 16 April, 2008
Fun Fact: The police have unfettered access to machine guns and explosives. Under the Department of Defense’s 1033 program, even city morges get fully-automatic M4s, burst-fire M16s, and even grenade launchers. Whether or not they even want them, and many don’t, is irrelevant as there isn’t any echanism to refuse receipt of or return any of it. Contrast this with the 9MM and .380 ACP handguns that make up the vast majority of “crime” guns, according to BATFE E-Trace data. Said E-Trace is also never “kept secret” for law enforcement, either. Tracing a gun is also useless becaue 1.) it can’t and won’t tell you where it’s been, how it got there, and how long it was there and 2.) there is no difference between a so-called “crime” gun and general “trace data”. That data is also never purged. Once a gun is entered into the E-Trace system, it stays there forever.
A note on so-called “assault weapons”: they don’t exist. It’s a media buzz-word cointed by none other than the late Sarah Brady, former head of what was Handgun Control Inc.. It was and still is used exclusively by those who don’t know what they’re even talking about to confuse low-information voters. Like, Hillary Rodham Clinton, for instance.
“We’ve got to rein in what has become an almost article of faith that anybody can have a gun anywhere, anytime, and I don’t believe that is in the best interest of the vast majority of people.” Citing a number of shootings that arose from minor arguments over loud music or texting, she drew a comparison: “That’s what happens in the countries I’ve visited where there is no rule of law and no self-control. That is something that we cannot just let go without paying attention.” – “Anywhere, Anytime Gun Culture”, Wall Street Journal, 6 May, 2014.
“I believe that we need a more thoughtful conversation. We cannot let a minority of people—and that’s what it is, it is a minority of people—hold a viewpoint that terrorizes the majority of people.” – “Hillary Clinton Equates Gun Control Opponents With Terrorists”, Reason.com, 18 June, 2014
http://reason.com/blog/2014/06/18/hillary-clinton-equates-gun-control-oppo
Vermont State Senator Mary Ann Carlson (D) does.
“We must be able to arrest people before they commit crimes. By registering guns and knowing who has them we can do that. If they have guns they are pretty likely to commit a crime.”
Colorado State Senator (and Majority Leader) John Morse (D) does.
“People who own guns are essentially a sickness in our souls who must be cleansed.”
New Jersey State Senators Loretta Weinberg, Sandra Cunningham, and Linda Greenstein all do.
“We needed a bill that was going to confiscate, confiscate, confiscate… They don’t care about the bad guys. All they want to do is have their little guns and do whatever they want with them.”
http://www.examiner.com/article/open-mike-reveals-n-j-senators-contempt-for-gun-owners-confiscation-goal
Fmr. California State Senator Leland Yee (D) does.
“It is extremely important that individuals in the state of California do not own assault weapons. I mean that is just so crystal clear, there is no debate, no discussion.” – CBS San Francisco, 20 May, 2012, before he was arrested for, charged with, and plead guilty to: gun-trafficking, taking bribes, money laundering, and official corruption on 24 March, 2014.
http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2012/05/20/cbs-5-story-inspires-new-legislation-to-ban-bullet-button/
http://www.sfgate.com/file/757/757-complaint_affidavit_14-70421-nc.pdf
He has since plead guilty to all of those charges, and he is schedule to be sentenced ca. 21 October, 2015.
http://www.breitbart.com/california/2015/07/02/gun-control-politician-pleads-guilty-to-gun-related-charges/
Fmr. United States Attorney General Eric B. Holder does.
“[We have to have] as part of the gun initiative, though, an informational campaign to really change the hearts and minds of people in Washington, D.C., and in particular our young people. They are saturated with guns in media and entertainment, [and] by the entertainment industry with violence, and I think too many of our young people, in particular our young men are fascinated with violence and in particular with guns. And what we need to do is change the way people think about guns, especially young people, and make it something that’s not cool, that’s not acceptable, that’s not hip, to carry a gun anymore.
In the way we changed out attitudes about cigarettes, y’know, when I was growing up people smoked all the time. I mean, both my parents did. But, over time we changed the way people thought about smoking, and so now why have people who cower outside of buildings and kinda’ smoke in private and don’t want to admit it. And I think that’s what we need to do with guns.
… One thing that I think is clear with young people, and with adults as well, is that we jut have to be repetitive about this. It’s not enough to simply have a catchy ad on a Monday and then only do it every Monday. We need to do this every day of the week, and really just brainwash people into thinking about guns in a vastly different way.” – C-SPAN2, 1995
Fmr. United States Attorney General Janet “Waco” Reno does.
“Gun registration is not enough.” – On ABC’s “Good Morning America”, 10 December, 1993
“Waiting periods are only a step. Registration is only a step. The prohibition of private firearms is the goal.”
Fmr. U.S. Attorney General Ramsey Clark does.
“Denouncing defensive gun ownership as “anarchy, not order under law–a jungle where each relies on himself for survival,” and an insult to government, for “[a] state in which a citizen needs a gun to protect himself from crime has failed to perform its first purpose. “ – Crime In America, 107, 1970
Fmr. Director of the ATF John Magaw does.
“The truth is, [handguns] are used to assassinate people, to kill people, because they are very easily concealed, you can drop them in any pocket.” – When interviewed by ABC’s Day One correspondent John McKenzie.
Boston Police Commissioner William Evans does.
“Having long guns – rifles and shotguns – especially here in the city of Boston, I think we should have, as the local authority, some say in the matter. For the most part, nobody in the city needs a shotgun. Nobody needs a rifle.” – Boston Public Radio, 23 July, 2013
Fmr. Chief of Police for Los Angeles, California Bernard Parks does.
“We would get rid of assault weapons. There would not be an assault weapon in the United States, whether it’s for show or someone having it in a collection.” – Reuters, 9 June, 2000
Fmr. New York City Police Commissioner Patrick V. Murphy did.
“We are beyond the stage of restrictive licensing and uniform laws. We are at the point in time and terror when nothing short of a strong uniform policy of domestic disarmament will alleviate the danger which is crystal clear and perilously present. Let us take the guns away from the people. Exemptions should be limited to the military, the police and those licensed for good and sufficient reasons.” – 7 December, 1970
“We are at the point in time and terror where nothing short of a strong uniform policy of domestic disarmament will alleviate the danger which is crystal clear and perilously present. Let us take the guns away from the people. Exemptions should be limited to the military, the police, and those licensed for good and sufficient reasons. And I would look forward to the day when it would not be necessary for the policeman to carry a sidearm.” – Testimony before the National Association of Citizen Crime Commissions.
He died in 2011.
Fmr. Deputy Comm. of the Florida State Dept. of Health, Joyner Sims, does.
“The goal is an ultimate ban on all guns, but we also have to take [one] step at a time and go for limited access first.” – Chicago Tribune, 7 November, 1993
Fmr. San Jose Police Chief Joseph McNamara does.
“My experience as a street cop suggests that most merchants should not have guns. But I feel even stronger about the average person having them…most homeowners…simply have no need to own guns.”
East Palo Alto Police Detective Rod Tuason does.
“Sounds like you had someone practicing their 2nd amendment rights last night. Should’ve pulled the AR out and prone them all out! And if one of them makes a furtive movement … 2 weeks off!!!”
He is currently being investigated for ethics violations.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/02/14/gun-rights-advocates-target-california-detective-following-facebook-posts/
Branford, Connecticut Police Officer Joseph Peterson does.
“I [would] give my left nut to bang down your door and come for your gun.” Those are his exact words to a long-time “friend” of his . . .
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/03/10/officer-reportedly-tells-citizen-i-give-my-left-n-to-bang-down-your-door-and-come-for-your-gun/
Connecticut Superior Court Judge Robert C. Brunetti does.
“No one in this country should have guns. I never return guns.”
http://www.examiner.com/article/connecticut-judge-declares-no-one-should-have-guns
Connecticut Superior Court Judge Edward Mullarkey does, too.
“Those who support the Second Amendment should be ashamed.”
http://ctcarry.com/News/Release/631a41bd-55f3-4b63-9644-c79617bd54d9
New York State Governor Andrew Cuomo (D) does.
“Confiscation could be an option. Mandatory sale to the state could be an option. Permitting could be an option — keep your gun but permit it.” – New York Times, 21 December, 2012
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/21/nyregion/cuomo-says-he-will-outline-gun-measures-next-month.html?_r=0
http://www.mediaite.com/online/new-york-gov-andrew-cuomo-on-gun-control-confiscation-could-be-an-option/
Chicago Mayor Rahm Emmanuel does.
“We’re bending the law as far as we can to ban an entirely new class of guns.”
Fmr. Chicago Mayor Richard M. Daley does.
“If it was up to me, no one but law enforcement officers would own hand guns… “ – Federal Gun Legislation Press Conferenece in Washingto, D.C., 13 November, 1998
Fmr. Stockton, CA Mayor Barbara Fass does.
“I think you have to do it a step at a time and I think that is what the NRA is most concerned about. Is that it will happen one very small step at a time so that by the time, um, people have woken up, quote, to what’s happened, it’s gone farther than what they feel the consensus of American citizens would be. But it does have to go one step at a time and the banning of semi-assault military weapons that are military weapons, not household weapons, is the first step.”
Deborah Prothrow-Stith, Office of Government and Community Programs and the Community Violence Prevention Project at the Harvard School of Public Health, does.
“My own view on gun control is simple: I hate guns and I cannot imagine why anybody would want to own one. If I had my way, guns for sport would be registered, and all other guns would be banned.”
Chester M. Pierce, Fmr. Harvard psychiatrist, does.
“Every child in America entering school at the age of five is mentally ill because he comes to school with certain allegiances to our founding fathers, toward our elected officials, toward his parents, toward a belief in a supernatural being, and toward the sovereignty of this nation as a separate entity. It’s up to you as teachers to make all these sick children well by creating the international child of the future.” – Speaking as an “expert” in public education, 1973 International Education Seminar
Fmr. Chancellor of Boston University John Silber did.
“I don’t believe anybody has a right to own any kind of a firearm. I believe in order to obtain a permit to own a firearm, that person should undergo an exhaustive criminal background check. In addition, an applicant should give up his right to privacy and submit his medical records for review to see if the person has ever had a problem with alcohol, drugs or mental illness . . . The Constitution doesn’t count!”
He died in 2012.
Sarah Brady, fmr. Chairman of Handgun Control Inc. (now The Brady Campaign) did.
“…I don’t believe gun owners have rights.” – Hearst Newspapers, October 1997
“The House passage of our bill is a victory for this country! Common sense wins out. I’m just so thrilled and excited. The sale of guns must stop. Halfway measures are not enough.” – 1 July, 1988
“We must get rid of all the guns.” – Speaking on behalf of HCI, with Sheriff Jay Printz (of Printz v. U.S. fame no less!), “The Phil Donahue Show”, September, 1994
“The only reason for guns in civilian hands is for sporting purposes.” – “Keepig The Battle Alive”, Tampa Tribune, 21 October, 1993
She died in 2015.
James Brady, husband of Sarah Brady, did.
“For target shooting, that’s okay. Get a license and go to the range. For defense of the home, that’s why we have police departments.” – Parade Magazine, 26 June, 1994
He died in 2014.
Nelson T. “Pete” Shields, Sarah Brady’s predecessor at HCI, does.
“Our ultimate goal – total control of handguns in the United States – is going to take time…The first problem is to slow down the increasing number of handguns being produced…The second problem is to get handguns registered. And the final problem is to make the possession of handguns and all handgun ammunition –except for the military, policemen, licensed security guards, licensed sporting clubs, and licensed gun collectors– totally illegal.” – The New Yorker Magazine, 26 July, 1976, pg. 53F
Josh Sugarmann, Executive Director of the Violence Policy Center, does.
“Americans are ready to hate somebody, and it’s going to be the gun industry.” – Newsweek Magazine, 16 May, 1994
“The word ‘hate’ is a very carefully chosen word. There’s got to be a real sense of revulsion and disgust. People are looking for someone to blame, someone who’s the cause of their problems, and it should be the gun industry. These guys are the living embodiment of the slogan, ‘Guns don’t kill people-people kill people’. They’re complete mercenaries.” – The New American Magazine, 13 June, 1994
“A gun-control movement worthy of the name would insist that President Clinton move beyond his proposals for controls … and immediately call on Congress to pass far-reaching industry regulation like the Firearms Safety and Consumer Protection Act … [which] would give the Treasury Department health and safety authority over the gun industry, and any rational regulator with that authority would ban handguns.”
“We need to ratchet down the firepower in civilian hands. We need to get assault weapons off our streets and off the gun store shelves … We should ban handguns.” – “NRA’s “really big problem”: Why it’s dependent on a dwindling fringe”, Salon.com, 13 June, 2014.
http://www.salon.com/2014/06/13/nras_really_big_problem_why_its_dependent_on_a_dwindling_fringe/
Michael K. Beard, Fmr President of The Coalition To Stop Gun Violence, does.
“Our goal is to not allow anybody to buy a handgun. In the meantime, we think there ought to be strict licensing and regulation.” – The Washington Times, 9 December, 1993
Shannon Watts, head of Moms Demand Action, does.
“I’ll be pretty clear on this. @MikeBloomberg and I want guns gone. Period. It doesn’t matter what it takes.” – From Twitter, 10 June, 2014
“Banning assault weapons. If you ban the assault weapons listed in the (Sen. Dianne) Feinstein bill, you would still have 2,000 firearms to choose from.”
The League of Women Voters of Illinois does.
“The League supports legislative controls to stop the proliferation of private ownership of handguns and their irresponsible use. The League advocates restricting access to semi-automatic assault type weapons.” – 2001 – 2003 Positions-in-Brief
http://www.lwvil.org/issuesandaction/documents/PositionsinBrief.pdf
Time Magazine does.
“As you probably know by now, Time’s editors, in the April 13 issue, took a strong position in support of an outright ban on handguns for private use.” – Letter to the NRA, 24 April, 1981
The New York Times does.
“The only way to discourage the gun culture is to remove the guns from the hands and shoulders of people who are not in the law enforcement business.” – Unsigned editorial, 24 September, 1975
The Washington Post does.
“No presidential candidate has yet come out for the most effective proposal to check the terror of gunfire: a ban on the general sale, manufacture and ownership of handguns as well as assault-style weapons.” – “Guns Along the Campaign Trail”, 19 July, 1999, pg. A18
“The sale, manufacture, and possession of handguns ought to be banned…We do not believe the 2nd Amendment guarantees an individual the right to keep them.” – “Legal Guns Kill Too”, 5 November, 1999
The Star-Ledger Editorial Board does.
“So do all the voluntary gun buybacks you want. But until they are mandatory, and our society can see past its hysteria over “gun confiscation,” don’t expect it to make much difference.” – “What N.J. really needs is mandatory gun buybacks: Editorial”, 19 September, 2014
The L.A. Times does.
“Under our plan individuals could own sporting weapons only if they had submitted to a background check and passed a firearms safety course. Other special, closely monitored exceptions could be made, such as for serious collectors.” – “Taming the Gun Monster: The Guns Among Us” (Editorial), 10 December, 1993
“Recommending that federal law limit ordinary citizens to “ownership [only] of sporting and hunting weapons,” – “Taming the Gun Monster: How Far to Go” (Editorial), 22 October, 1996
The Philidelhpia Inquirer does.
“Wills has also written “Every civilized society must disarm its citizens against each other. Those who do not trust their own people become predators upon their own people. The sick thing is that haters of fellow Americans often think of themselves as patriots.” – “Or Worldwide Gun Control?”, 17 May, 1981
Michael Gartner, Fmr. President of NBC News, does.
“There is no reason for anyone in this country, for anyone except a police officer or a military person, to buy, to own, to have, to use, a handgun. The only way to control handgun use in this country is to prohibit the guns. And the only way to do that is to change the Constitution.” – USA Today, “Glut of Guns: What Can We Do About Them?”, 16 January, 1992
Charles Krauthammer, a nationally syndicated columnist, does.
“In fact, the assault weapons ban will have no significant effect either on the crime rate or on personal security. Nonetheless, it is a good idea . . . . Its only real justification is not to reduce crime but to desensitize the public to the regulation of weapons in preparation for their ultimate confiscation.” – From “Disarm the Citizenry. But Not Yet.”, The Washington Post, 5 April, 1996
“I have no problem in principle with gun control. Congress enacted (and I supported) an assault weapons ban in 1994. The problem was: It didn’t work. (So concluded a University of Pennsylvania study commissioned by the Justice Department.) The reason is simple. Unless you are prepared to confiscate all existing firearms, disarm the citizenry and repeal the Second Amendment, it’s almost impossible to craft a law that will be effective.” – From “The root of mass-murder.”, The Washington Post, 20 December, 2012
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/charles-krauthammer-the-roots-of-mass-murder/2012/12/20/e4d99594-4ae3-11e2-b709-667035ff9029_story.html
Molly Ivan, another nationally syndicated columnist, does.
“Ban the damn things. Ban them all. You want protection? Get a dog.” – 19 July, 1994
Gerald Ensely, of the Tallahassee Democrat, does.
“How is it that the supposed greatest nation on earth refuses to stop the unholy availability of guns? I’m not talking about gun control. I’m not talking about waiting periods and background checks. I’m talking about flat-out banning the possession of handguns and assault rifles by individual citizens. I’m talking about repealing or amending the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. Gun freaks say if you take away their guns only outlaws will have guns. That’s a chance worth taking. Because if we ban guns, eventually the tide will turn. It might take 10 years or 20 years. Hell, it might take 50 years. But if we make it illegal to own a handgun, eventually there will be no handguns.
Those of us who think widespread handgun ownership is insane need to keep speaking up. We need to teach our children handguns are wrong. We need to support any measure that limits their availability — and work to repeal the Second Amendment. We need to keep marching forward until someday this nation becomes civilized enough to ban guns. One of the frequent refrains of gun freaks about President Obama is “He’s coming for our guns.” Obama never said such a thing. But I will:
We’re coming for your guns. And someday, we’ll take them.” – In “Stop the insanity: Ban guns”, 23 Bovember, 2014
http://www.tallahassee.com/story/opinion/columnists/ensley/2014/11/22/stop-insanity-ban-guns/19426029/
Garry Willis, “historian” and writer, does.
“Mutual protection should be the aim of citizens, not individual self-protection. Until we are willing to outlaw, the very existence or manufacture of civilian handguns we have no right to call ourselves citizens or consider our behavior even minimally civil.” – “John Lennon’s War”, Chicago Sun times, 12 December, 1980
“Professor” Dean Morris, Director of the Law Enforcement Assistance Association does.
“I am one who believes that as a first step, the United States should move expeditiously to disarm the civilian population, other than police and security officers, of all handguns, pistols, and revolvers…No one should have the right to anonymous ownership or use of a gun.”
J. Elliot Corbett, Secretary of the National Council for Responsible Firearms Policy, does.
“We are now supporting the President’s bill which provides stringent restrictions on rifles and shotguns. We shall also get behind the bill which provides for national registration and licensing. I personally believe handguns should be outlawed.” – 17 June, 1968
“Handguns should be outlawed. Our organization will probably take this stand in time but we are not anxious to rouse the opposition before we get the other legislation passed.” – Interviewed for the Washington Evening Star, 19 September, 1969
Rosie O’Donnell does.
“I think there should be a law — and I know this is extreme — that no one can have a gun in the U.S. If you have a gun, you go to jail. Only the police should have guns.” – Ottawa Sun, 29 April, 1999
“I don’t care if you want to hunt, I don’t care if you think it’s your right. I say, sorry, you are not allowed to own a gun, and if you do own a gun I think you should go to prison.” – The Rosie O’Donnell Show, 19 April, 1999.
The American Civil “Liberties” Union does.
“We urge passage of federal legislation … to prohibit … the private ownership and possession of handguns.” – National ACLU Policy #47, adopted by its Board of Directors in Semptember, 1976
The United Nations does.
“Tighten controls on the gun trade in the United States and other member nations.” – UN Disarmament Commission
Poughkeepsie, NY Mayor John Tkayik (R) knows the truth.
“I’m no longer a member of MAIG. Why? It did not take long to realize that MAIG’s agenda was much more than ridding felons of illegal guns; that under the guise of helping mayors facing a crime and drug epidemic, MAIG intended to promote confiscation of guns from law-abiding citizens.”
He is currently running for New York State Senator, 41st District.
Sioux City, MO Mayor Bob Scott knows the truth, too.
“I was never an active member. They’re not just against illegal guns, they’re against all guns.”
So does Madeira Beach, FL Mayor Patricia Shontz.
“I am withdrawing because I believe the MAIG is attempting to erode all gun ownership, not just illegal guns. Additionally, I have learned that the MAIG may be working on issues which conflict with legal gun ownership. It appears the MAIG has misrepresented itself to the Mayors of America and its citizens. This is gun control, not crime prevention.”
Nashua, NH Mayor Donnalee Lozeau knows.
“I simply cannot be part of an organization that chooses this course of action instead of cooperatively working with those that have proven over a lifetime of work their true intentions.”
Edgewood, KY Mayor John D. Link found out.
“Sometime ago, I attended a meeting with many city officials from throughout the United States. At this meeting there was a table with the title “Mayors Against Illegal Guns.” Not wanting illegal guns, I signed the form not knowing what kind of spin would ensue. As it turned out, I was against the 2nd amendment, etc. I have since been removed from the “Mayors Against Illegal Guns” movement. On our city website I have a letter to all stating my position. I’m not against the NRA, guns, or hunting, and never will be.”
Oldmans Township, NJ Mayor Harry Moore knows better now.
“It is simply unconscionable that this coalition, under your [Michael Bloomberg’s] leadership, would call for a repeal of the Shelby/Tiahrt amendment that helps to safeguard criminal investigations and the lives of law enforcement officers, witnesses, and others by restricting access to firearms trace data solely to law enforcement. How anyone, least of all a public official, could be willing to sacrifice such a law enforcement lifeline in order to gain an edge in suing an industry they have political differences with is repugnant to me. The fact that your campaign against this protective language consisted of overheated rhetoric, deception, and falsehoods is disturbing.”
I could go on literally for days and days, listing pages upon pages of people saying exactly how and why they’re coming for our guns. Not a single bit of it could ever be supported, defended, or refuted by them, either.
And I’ve read that post once Excedrine-we get it . Democrats suck…where’s the UN vote to disarm America report TTAG? 44 dumbocrats and 2 I’s voted as traitors to confiscate our guns. NO Republicans…
Please, do go on collecting and publishing. We desperately need to know what America’s fascist ruling class intends for us disobedient & armed peons. That’s not sarcasm, that’s what they really are.
TTAG, make this quote collection a click & view department on the website. Meanwhile, continue your valuable work. Just a suggestion: begin your history of confiscatory quotes with the JFK assassination in 1963. That’s when the modern era of gungrabbing truly began.
Common Sense Gun Laws = Incrementalism
I could go the rest of my life very nicely without seeing her face or that of Bloombag ever again. Added to that list is Mr Pathetic nobody himself, Andy Parker. We also can’t forget our favorite nausea inducer, Dianne Feinstein.
They went a little wacky with the fish-eye lens on that photo.
Not just “certain” guns, the MOST COMMON guns.
Dont get cocky, kids.
The collaboration and deep pockets behind gun confiscation is only getting started, as you can plainly see by all the sudden interest and reporting of this fluff, with same Talking Points Media blurbs getting repeated and passed along, by journollistas and ‘splainers, to Trade It Up The Chain…
and when McAulliffe and Bloomberg get caught and get punked by voters in VA, barely a peep…
Make no mistake- the radical left is not giving up- they have nowhere to go but double down, and only a year to go, before it all goes ka-blooey…40 years of advancing the Narrative, you think they will go out without a fight?
Obama and blue states radical progressives are getting away with Executive Actions, that will take years to resolve through litigation – NY SAFE ACT, CT AWB, CA microstamping, the new UBC in WA and OR-
they wont be happy with just ONE new law or reg…we aint seen nuffin’ yet. Kristallnacht sound familiar? Imagine LGS targeted by paid stooges just like Soros paid for instigators at Ferguson, and NY, and Baltimore- and still more today…#blackliesmatter, doncha know?
I like to leave this comment whenever I can…
“Nobody is coming to take your guns!”
“Ban assault rifles!”
… Well which is it? You can’t ban the most popular firearms in America and still say nobody is coming to take your guns. One of those two statements HAS to be false.
(In Emperor Palpatine’s voice) “Something something something GUN BAN…something something something COMPLETE!” (Coughs, clears her throat, voice becomes more sympathetic yet patronizing) “Seriously, we’re not trying to take your guns! We’re just trying to pass common sense gun safety laws that the NRA would have endorsed in the 1970s”
Gun confiscation will NEVER happen. They say this as contrast as an extreme measure so less extreme measures seem more palatable.
If the antis are talking gun confiscation and instead they’ll settle for less, it sounds a lot better, and the stupid sheeple say…ok
It’s a shallow ploy. If they tried gun confiscation, there would be many MANY counties where the Sheriff said it is unconstitutional and a civil war would ensue.
I’ll be damned if I am disarmed by blanket confiscation.
That ad sounds more like a humorous, sarcastic de-motivational poster about the anti-gun crowd than an ad supporting gun confiscation. You know, pointing out absurdity by being absurd. No?
Nobody is going to take away your guns. We just want to take away the high capacity fully semiautomatic anticoncealableaircraft black assaultweaponstylemilitaryrifles. Other than those, everything is fine.
But…
Give up your shotguns — too many projectiles in the air at once.
Give up your 22 handguns — there’s no use for handgun that small.
Give up your 22 rifles — what purpose does a weapon whose ammunition comes in 500 round bricks have?
Give up your pistols — too much firepower and someone could get hurt by the shells.
Give up your revolvers — no shells for the police to track killers by.
Give up your semiautomatic rifles — nobody needs easy reloads or rapid followup shots.
Give up your bolt action rifles — wars were fought with those.
Give up your milsurps — the handguns are all evil killing tools and the rifles are all like modern sniper guns.
Give up your black powder — there’s no reason to use an obsolete weapon with a dangerous fuel source.
Give up your pneumatics — only am urderer would want a quiet gun.
Give up your destructive devices — only a terrorist would want something that big and loud and scary.
Give up your machine guns — $5000 and up is a low starting point for scarce, highly regulated weapons.
Give up your 50 cal — people don’t need something named for that big a number.
Give up your single shots — the few moving parts mean it’s a super sniper weapon.
Give up your antiques — they belong in a museum.
Now, we shall create all sorts of laws to make sure you do just that. And if you break any of them, you lose your guns and your freedom.
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