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You know how they say there’s nothing so dangerous as a wounded animal? Scratch that — it turns out there’s something much worse. Nothing’s more dangerous than a (politically) wounded politician. Particularly one with executive powers. In his obligatory annual state of the union speech tonight, president Barack Obama promised new measures (“with or without congress”) to affect via executive order that would further restrict Americans’ right to keep and bear arms – all couched in a desire to prevent another Sandy Hook, of course. Congress and our constitutionally-mandated system of checks-and-balances be damned . . .

As every grade-schooler learns in civics class, the entire point of a divided government is to keep any one branch from becoming too powerful. So if Congress passes extreme, unpopular legislation, the President can step in and veto it. Alternately, if the President proposes policies that go against the will of the people, Congress can ignore them or vote them down. And the Supreme Court acts like the parent of the (sometimes) dysfunctional family, stepping in when needed to determine if what’s passed and signed is constitutional.

The president’s decision to use his executive powers to sidestep congressional approval is more than a little worrying. A divided legislative branch has meant Obama has been largely roadblocked since 2010. But with no further elections in his future, the president apparently feels free to try to do whatever he wants with the stroke of his pen. If you like your legislative branch, you can keep your legislative branch.

While congress seems to have realized that gun control is a dead issue for now, the president isn’t so content to let things lie. He issued a number of executive orders a year ago in the aftermath of Newtown. Now he appears set to use the regulatory agencies under his control (read: ATF) to go still further. A prime example is the ATF’s recent decision to expand the CLEO sign-off requirement for every member of a gun trust. Something they seemed set to eliminate, before doing a 180, supposedly at the behest of the White House.

In tonight’s State of the Union speech, Obama announced that he intends to do just that: act to further restrict the constitutionally protected rights of American citizens without congressional approval.

Citizenship means standing up for the lives that gun violence steals from us each day. I have seen the courage of parents, students, pastors, and police officers all over this country who say “we are not afraid,” and I intend to keep trying, with or without Congress, to help stop more tragedies from visiting innocent Americans in our movie theaters, shopping malls, or schools like Sandy Hook.

What’s up Obama’s sleeve now? We don’t know, but three options come immediately to mind: 1) an ATF regulation mandating universal background checks, 2) a total ban of all firearms imports, and 3) a new “assault weapons” ban. Will he pick door number one, number two or number three? Some combination? All of them? Or maybe something altogether different? As always, watch this space.

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      • On the contrary. If the next President is a Republican he is going give it good and hard to the Democrats.

        • The only thing Republicans have been giving good and hard in the last two decades is in the men’s room at MSP. I have never seen a group of people more willingly concede defeat while standing on the top rung in my life. Self-sabotage is the only real skill the GOP has.

        • The only way that will happen is if the big city democRAT Liberals(it doesn’t mean what they think it means) are out voted, or voted OUT!

        • Really? Surely you jest; Bush gave us the Abomination (Patriot) Act and oversaw the greatest growth in government handouts in decades; Reagan signed the gun control bill of ’86 that outlawed new registration of select fire weapons for citizens. All the Republicans that were presented to us as an alternative have been Rino’s; Mccain? Romney?;Please! 44 Republicans senators voted to continue the NDAA- (which includes the indefinite detention of American citizens without charge or trial.)In my opinion, they would be doing mostly the same things as Obama has done.
          Until people wake up and realize the Republican Party is statist to the core and does not respect the Constitution, nothing will change the way our country is going.

        • If the next president is a Conservative and has the support of Congress… FIFY.

          Even without the support of Congress he can cancel each and every Presidential Order of his predecessor(s). He can also order his attorney general to aggressively prosecute violations of civil rights, including state and local over-zealous enforcement of unconstitutional anti-2A laws.

        • BTW, Jonathan, if ALL Progressive/Liberal democrats are statists and many RINO Republicans are statists, what is your proposition for a solution to the problem of representative government at this point?

        • Cliff? If we were writing the Constitution from scratch, a few major changes would be no voting rights unless you’re at least third generation American, none if you don’t own property, and none if you work for/sell to the government or receive a welfare check from the government.

          Franklin always said this experiment would fail as soon as people realized they could vote themselves money at their neighbor’s expense.

        • Yes, Jon, but all dreams. I have commented here before and included in some of the stories I write that there needs to be a test for voting a bit more stringent than surviving to your 18th birthday.

          I have also stated that no person who accepts payment from the government should be allowed to vote so long as that condition persists, which includes welfare and contractors and people who work for contractors.

          We are not so far apart philosophically, I just wonder what the alternative is at this point in our country. I do not see a Constitutional Convention as realistic at this time.

        • Jonathan and CliffH; I believe you’ve wandered over from Democratic Underground by mistake; you and the liberal/progressives are as one in your desire to use tyrannical government to enforce your will on the unwilling, to create a subservient class. That’s what the democrats did with Jim Crow laws and the progressives want now, only the right people to have the guns,(Government critters) and the power.

          Usually, from history, the revolution replaces one tyrant with one that is worse; you’re “solution” would be a worse tyranny.

          It is pretty straight forward; you can’t serve two masters; you will serve someone, a human tyrant, or G-d; one will enslave you, the other will set you free. The Statists obviously see themselves as godlets and want all the rest of us be their servants. Or you can serve G-d; slave or free human being.

          It all comes down to choice. But it can’t be forced, (hint, hint), people have to make this choice freely, and those that choose true freedom will in the end prevail. Think of it as Darwinism in action.

        • Why would he? If he’s a (R) and manages to get elected that means he’ll drift to the center so as to get re-elected, doesn’t it? After all, he won’t have to win a primary, so he’ll be able to take conservatives for granted in his re-election bid, which will undoubtedly be billed as “THE MOST IMPORTANT ELECTION OF OUR TIME!!!”.

        • CliffH, So soldiers shouldn’t get a vote either? Nor anybody collecting Social Security? Your idea is literally retarded.

        • VSN, you are more than welcome to go back to what ever hell hole you or your father escaped from. We should have ended all immigration in 1820.

        • So Chris Mallory; my Grand Father came here in the late eighteen hundreds; so I repeat the sentiment of VSN; “you can go pound sand”.

        • As long as the RNC and DNC are involved in the selecting of politicians in Washington there is no hope. Ignore the fed, they’re a distraction. Focus on what you can impact: local politics, pay as few taxes as possible, when your local government does something stupid to come down on your neighbor you and your community defy them, if you live in an oppressive state (ny, ca, il, nj, etc.)…leave.

        • Here’s hoping a certain carpetbagging former ‘senator’ from New York state and former State Dept secretary will have another brain clot before 2016….

        • So what I am reading is if you are paid by the government you should not be allowed to vote. Would this include military? The same ones who volenteer to serve while you stay home with your family, we have to leave our families for months at a time. The government is already making it as difficult on us as they can to vote. Any close election the ballots from the military are often challenges as they were not postmarked by a certain date. When mail goes through the APO/FPO system, they are not always postmarked. Therefore our ballots are not always allowed.

          You might just want to think a little more before you try to take away ones Constitutional rights. You and I don’t like seeing our RKBA taken, yet you are proposing to do just that to others.

        • Secession or substantial constitutional amendments via Article V, my friends, are the only logical solutions left at this point.

          • Don’t be silly. Nullification is a lot less hassle, just as effective, and in the spirit of the Constitution. For Cry Sakes, don’t go amending it (except to get rid of A16); just make them follow the one we’ve GOT!

        • wrong! did bush2 do anything to counter clinton’s ex orders? nope. the R’s are talk a big game but when in office they do nothing for us. they use us to get into power and never follow thru to counter the damage the D’s have done. when has a republican pres over turned any of the democratic gun control xo’s?

      • I am not afraid of him because I am a patriot, I believe in the Republic, the Constitution and regret that I only have one life to give in the defense of this country against the tyrants.

        • I believe in what this country used to stand for. However, the takers in this country have overtaken the makers which is the beginning of the end.

          Proof? Just look who is in office.

      • OH, ME TOO! IS THERE SOME SORT OF SECOND AMENDMENT GROUP TO WHICH I CAN DONATE MONEY? HOW ABOUT A REPUBLICAN POLITICIAN WHO WANTS TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT, DO YOU THINK THEY WOULD ACCEPT MY MONEY?

  3. Congress actually stood and applauded his earlier remark about making them irrelevant. At what point do you have to say we have entered some kind of bizarro world?

      • Robert,

        Thank you for that, I had not seen it (well worth watching folks). We are fast running out of options here in America and I am becoming increasingly concerned that we WILL have to invoke the Second Amendment sooner than later.

      • Realistically, all he has done here is make anyone with a D next to their name a whole lot less likely to win in November. We’re about to have a Republican majority in both houses of Congress. Here’s to hoping Boehner, McConnell, Cruz, et. al are smart enough to stay out of the way and let him continue to implode his own party.

    • Exactly why most of my recent purchases have been private sales. Everyone should own at least one untraceable gun.

      Everyone should also have at least one gun buried built in or stashed. Along with enough gun food to keep it running, plus a little extra to feed friends and family.

      The in case of emergency break glass stash.

      • And don’t forget air rifles. Large caliber air rifles. They were good enough for Lewis and Clark to hunt with on their expedition. Untraceable and mystifying.

      • If you signed this with your real name, your gun is quite traceable now that your comment is in the NSA database.

        If you didn’t sign this with your real name, it still won’t take them long to figure it out, unless you specifically took (enough) steps to ensure your online anonymity.

  5. Whatever he tries, it’s irrelevant.

    He doesn’t have the ability to enforce anything.Three states have laws on the books which disavow Federal recognition of NFA items made in-state. He can sign whatever EO he wants to ,because the rest of America will just ignore him.

    The only places which will give Obama credence are the states which already use the US Constitution for toilet paper in the Democrats’ offices.

    • > Three states have laws on the books which disavow Federal recognition of NFA items made in-state.

      So, did anyone actually try to make use of those laws?

      For all we know, it’s all just hot air. I’ll believe it when someone does openly violate the NFA in those states, and will get away with it.

  6. Those words of his made me cringe… not that the rest is anything special, but those words “with or without Congress”… *shudder*

    • This comment, that I suppose he reinforced tonight, only reinforces the point he doesn’t care about the Constitution nor about the fact his executive powers are supposed to be limited.

      If only Congress would realize he is trying to do their job and it is unconstitutional…

      • if only they would care. Letting him do their job means they can complain about him when he gets it wrong and just go on more vacations when everything is okay. And keep raking in the lobbyist payoffs until they get the big one upon going into the private sector.

      • Yes, I’m sure that they just haven’t come to that realization yet, probably because no one has told them. If only there was a lawyer among them…

    • The President’s overconfidence in his authority is undermining my already limited confidence in his sanity.

    • How much further beyond, “To Hell With Congress” does the path to despotism go? The point of our system is balanced powers, and more importantly everyone’s agreement that balanced powers are the best. When you (the president) come right out and say, “Fuck Congress” in no uncertain terms, how much longer until you crown yourself king? How far does one go to keep “people” “safe”?

      “But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.” – Declaration of Independence.

    • I don’t get the “breaking!” label either but I understand why they have too make content of this and the page use that con with “breaking”

    • Hell to the yeah! I’m afraid he is just waiting to poke a hornets nest. For those that took the oath ALL ENEMIES FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC! To current military and LEO’s. This government does not represent or reflect most citizens. To take up arms against American people goes against the values and principles of this nation. To all patriots, scour the hatchets and oil the weapons.

  9. When will Congress stop letting him usurp their delegated powers and impeach him?

    Congress is meant to be deadlocked to prevent knee-jerk reactions and passing legislation without thought, consideration. It also gives a voice to the minority party.

    • Do you understand how the impeachment process works? Perhaps you were asleep in your civics class. First the House must vote to impeach the President. Impeachment is equivalent to an indictment. Then it goes to the Senate for trial. The “jury” of 100 senators votes and if 67 ayes are found then the President is removed from office. There is no point in the House impeaching the President if they can’t get 67 votes for a conviction. Remember what a failed impeachment did for Bill Clinton. In the real world if you don’t have votes you don’t start the process. Try the case in 2014 elections and elect Republicans to the Senate.

      • Clinton was damaged goods after that. He completely lost what little initiative he had, and started working with Republicans on some issues. Overall, it was worthwhile to humble him.

        • Really? The Democrats made big gains in the 1998 Congressional elections. Clinton would have rolled to a third term had he been eligible.

      • You’re slightly wrong on Clinton. He was actually impeached;
        becoming the second ever (the 1st was Andrew Johnson,
        Nixon resigned before impeachment). The term impeachment
        only refers to the act of Congress indicting a president. What
        they failed to do was remove Clinton from office.

        As for whether it’s a waste of time, I disagree. Could there be
        67 votes in the Senate to remove him from office, probably
        not. But this doesn’t mean the Congress should ignore him
        and refuse to seek impeachment. In my view, for Congress
        to do nothing is the same as a DA refusing to prosecute a
        criminal simply because they think a judge may not send
        down a lengthy sentence.

        • Choosing not to act, choosing to remain silent, (on the part of Congress) is tantamount to consent.

  10. Keep pushing, stupid. Mexicans have a whole lot less guns than Americans and they’ve decided to push back. Why do you think we won’t do the same? Fucking moron.

    • Why wouldn’t we do the same as the Mexicans? Because we have over 500 channels, the Super Bowl is on next Sunday, we have a decent standard of living, there’s beer at Circle K and we still have enough credit left to go buy bigger TV’s.

      • You forgot a few things:
        – Armed agents aren’t extorting money from us at gunpoint
        – Cartel members aren’t driving around shooting people (outside of inner cities)
        – Young people aren’t being forced to smuggle drugs
        – Young people aren’t emigrating to Mexico for a better life.

        – Subject to change without notice. Conditions apply.

        • “You forgot a few things:
          – Armed agents aren’t extorting money from us at gunpoint”
          Try sending the IRS a letter, saying, “Since the income tax was enacted as a ‘voluntary’ tax, I’ve decided to opt out this year.”

  11. I say bring it!

    The ATF and its rules-writing “authority” has been pushing its luck more than is prudent already. The more he pushes the closer he gets to drawing and losing a landmark court case.

    • Forget the courts. No president or his lackeys have thought about pushing the people as hard as bama. He wants blood, in particular god fearing’ patriot blood. Do you think he cares what the constitution says.

      • I agree that the Progs would absolutely love an open revolt. It would give them an excuse to declare martial law, or at least give them plenty of bloody shirts to wave if they didn’t have the guts to declare martial law. The question I have is whether the revolt would subside or spread after the iron fist comes down.

  13. God, you set off a nuke across the street, they world would lose…One good Nuke, that is it…

    What a lose for such a great gain….

  17. Time to put executive order restrictions on the ballot. Personal agenda should not be able to make law, even if you think you’re king of the world.

  18. Hey, I’ve got a brilliant idea – why doesn’t the President stop sending arms to Al-Quaeda in Syria and the Sinaloan drug cartel. That aught to curb some of that ‘gun violence’.

    • Keep em in country. I’m sure quite a few of us would take those off of his hands, especially at that kind of discount.

  20. Nationwide implementation of microstamping by ATF regulation. Remember, its for the children ….

  21. 1) an ATF regulation mandating universal background checks? He might but it won’t stand up in court. He does not have that power under any federal law. ATF cannot charge you with a crime that doesn’t exist in statute. The reason that federal government couldn’t require a background check for intrastate sales private individuals is that don’t have the authority to do that otherwise ATF would have done it long ago.

    2) a total ban of all firearms imports. Maybe, he does have power to restrict imports. It would increase the price of certain classes of firearms.

    3) a new “assault weapons” ban. Again, no legislative authority to redefine an “Assault Weapon” beyond what is found in the NFA. He would lose that case in court very quickly.

    Those are the obvious candidates and that is why it will be something else.

    • I agree completely. The executive authority can be exercised only within the scope of federal statutory authorization. Which is why I think he pretty much shot his was with the last round of orders a year ago–don’t you think he would have signed additional orders if he though he had the authority to do so?

    • ” He would lose that case in court very quickly.”

      He (or his successor) would lose the court case, but not quickly. In the meantime, the unlawful regulations would remain in effect. For example, see the city councils for DC and Chicago, and the actions of various county sheriffs for foot-dragging and obstruction.

      “Your city/county/state is resisting implementation of my commonsense gun regulations? No federal funds for YOU!”

    • He can order the ATF to redefine them in the regs, but then what? Widespread arrests on newly-minted :armed criminals?” Even the MSM couldn’t ignore or spin that.

      And the citizenry has an extremely potent weapon that was last hinted at/used during the 60s – the Tax Strike.

      What would you think they would try if, let’s say, all 5+ million NRA members decided not to pay their Federal income tax as a protest? And sya, put the cash in a safe offshore account.

      The judicial system couldn’t handle that, and there couldn’t be arrests because there isn’t enough jail space in the US, even counting the “FEMA camps.” And the banks wouldn’t let asset forfeiture happen because they would lose whatever mortgage money they had coming in and would be forced to close.

      • Wrong. The media can, and will ignore any play against gun owners in America.

        They are nothing more than the “Ministry of Truth” in the Obama administration. They’ll find random celebrity gossip news to report loudly over any arrests of formerly law abiding gun owners. They will never cross the Obama administration, and any coverage they do provide on it they would spin so hard that sheep unawares would believe that we were the next terrorist attack or something similar.

    • He doesn’t scare me. What he does is raise my blood pressure and piss me off to the highest level of pisstivity.

  23. I have seen the courage of parents, students, pastors, and police officers all over this country who say “we are not afraid, BECAUSE WE ARE ARMED”

    fixed

  24. Who has 2 thumbs and ordered a bunch of ammo before the SOTU, this guy! He said almost exactly what I expected him to say. Almost literally word for word.

  25. At this point, I think if he was going to do something drastic, he already would have. There were plenty of chances. However, never underestimate the stupidity of a statist politician, and never let your guard down.

  26. You guys did the same thing at his last address. Executive order only pertains to Feds and not civilians. So, he can not do much. You know, I thought Bush would go down as the worst…but I think I am changing my mind. Obama needs one more screw to tilt the scale. Bush getting 1000s of American soldiers killed over lies and oil fields still tops it and then say “Mission Accomplished” and then more soldiers get killed. As for VP, nothing can top Cheney shooting someone in the face with a shotgun and getting away it at the taxpayers expense.

    • I am tired if this Bush lied meme. You don’t know what you don’t know and Bush went with the consensus of the world’s intelligence agencies. Do you think Bush paid off the SVR [know who they are] to come up with same assessment as US, British, French and German intelligence did? By the way at last count, circa 2006 we recovered 6000 chemical rounds in Iraq.

      • Shawn, I heard somewhere that more troops have died in Afghanistan under BamBam Obama’s watch than under Bush. (Crickets)

        And by the way, Cheney shot his FRIEND in the face, by accident, was embarrassed, upset and apologetic. Google sometime the number of hunters in the field accidentally shot by their friends and prosecuted/persecuted for it, then STFU.

        • With the disclaimer that I don’t have time to confirm at the moment, I believe that we have lost twice as many people in Afghanistan under Obama than we did under Bush. In roughly the same amount of time. The rules of engagement are ridiculous, as I’m sure some of the other readers who have been there can attest to.

          • Does anybody have any idea what they’re trying to buy with all those lives? What are they trying to accomplish? Where’s the mission statement? Where’s the Declaration of War? Does anybody know how to find out these things?

      • Bush was lied to by the Intelligence Community, en masse. I watched them do it. They almost got away with it again with Iran, save for the efforts of patriots in the IC. That’s all I’m going to say.

  27. I say he might try 4:) An outright ban on all civilian ownership of firearms. Now enforcing that will be a different matter. Or maybe 5:) a ban on all “modern” firearms. Nothing in the constitution or any ruling (to my knowledge) by SCOTUS states that firearm ownership is granted to modern firearms.

    • Wrong on SCOTUS. Try the Heller vs DC.

      No executive order can levy a total ban on firearms. It Has be done by the legislative branch because only they can define penalties. As I said above He cannot go beyond his authorities as specified in the NFA to redefine classes of firearms that defined in statute. The President can issue an executive order to effect the operation of the executive branch or in areas delegated by legislation.

    • A complet and total ban is their goal, and that point we would see just how many Americans were true the their “line in the sand”

      • I believe Connecticut may have given us a measure of this – about 5% complied with the mandatory registration law as of December 31, 2013.

    • Check Heller. The majority opinion states that the 2A protects guns “in common use”. This means modern guns.

    • He can’t ban anything with an EO. Nor can be order registration. Executive orders give directives as to how the executive branch enforces existing laws. Any EO he issues will be a paper tiger with no teeth, designed to allow him to claim that he’s done SOMETHING for the children.

      If you’ve been watching much news lately, you’ve seen that the Supreme Court has put stays on the implementation of several state laws and lower court decisions until SCOTUS can hear and rule on them. Surprisingly, they have involved what most of us would consider “liberal” laws and rulings. I expect that it wouldn’t take that long for them to put a stay on an overreaching EO. There is hope yet.

  28. He barely talked about it and didn’t say anything substantive. Gun control is a dead duck on the fed level

  29. If he didn’t have both hands above the lectern i would swear that he constantly jerked it to the sound of his own voice.

    • Good thing I wasn’t drinking anything when I read your comment, C. Actually, though, I had a friend tell me (don’t know if it is true) that Hitler would have an orgasm listening to his own voice during a speech. It really wouldn’t surprise me if Obama has to change underwear after giving his SOTU.

  30. He’s reaffirming his executive order powers to try and set the idea in the country’s mind that he actually can do whatever he wants. Why? Because his illegal non-recess appointments from a few years ago are going to the Supreme Court. Lower courts found that he violated the law by appointing members to the National Labor Relations Board while Congress was not in a true recess. His cronies have challenged that ruling and those members have stayed on the board while the appeals are being heard. By trying to expand his executive order powers before this case is heard by the SCOTUS he’s trying to establish a precedent invalidating any challenge to his whims.

    He’s also mentioning this gun control agenda to appease his base. He knows that pushing for more federal control is going to be costly in both time, money and political capital. He’s already under siege for the Obamacare debacle, and that pressure needs to be increased. However, I am worried that he may try to enact some orders that violate the Second Amendment and that many of the agencies that have been stockpiling arms and ammunition (really, the EPA needs guns??) will be the ones to try and enforce them.

    The members of Congress as well as any state legislator who is opposed to his control and confiscation agenda NEED to step up and draw a line in the stand. The gun control fight needs to be less about the guns and more about the restrictions on freedom. Focus on the larger picture, and start drawing real comparisons to the dictatorial governments in the last century who started with control, went to confiscation and ended with genocide. People need to understand that taking away our guns only paves the way for other rights and freedoms to be taken away.

  31. This post is reaching. EO’s are legal provided he makes no new law. Also, this is more rhetoric than anything else. He is a lame duck president, he will spend more time stumping for others and playing golf than anything else.

  32. president Obama has sidestepped all the checks and balances systems.bye getting people into those offices which he has the control over a total joke!

  36. He could very well spur an armed revolution. He has miscalculated every step of the way dealing with a people he does not understand or relate to (as in Americans).

  37. I think hes just doing his yearly
    Fire arms salesman thing
    He shure sell some guns like no other
    On that note- thanks for the now new
    Nothings in stock run again mr president

  38. Whatever it is, I won’t abide by it.

    He can try whatever he wants. It won’t happen, and even if it did (which it won’t), there is no force wielded by Nature or by mankind that is ever going to make me comply. They’ll have to kill me first.

  39. Obama’s a eunuch boasting about being a ladies man.

    Universal Background Checks? On whose authority?Congress can’t even do it- the Brady Law derives it’s authority from Commerce Clause regulation of national commerce, which is why FFLs have to process BG checks but private citizens within the same state do not .

    If Congress can’t pass a law like that and make it stick, his EO will be stayed by the judiciary before lunchtime the following day.

  41. Keep your eye on the prize, obamacare. This is just a distraction. Get back on odumbocare like a pit bull on a quarter pounder, Randy

    • BATFE&RBF could respond to all 8,000 of those comments tomorrow with a blanket e-mail:

      Thank you for taking the time to send us your comments. FU.

      • Naaah. Responding to comments is job security. And it supplies ammo for future disputes. The ATF doesn’t like us, but the do like our money, and the fact that we supply them with some level of relevance- they’ve been in the fight of their lives for the last decade as Federal Law Enforcement and Homeland Security keep slicing into the pie and shoving them out. The NFA branch is one of the few things nobody has challenged the ATF for, so they’ll at least make a go of looking like they actually run it.

        • Nobody challenges them? I may be small time, but I shit in their wheaties all day every day.

          “Somebody should do something!”

          I’m somebody. I’m doing something. Are you?

  43. Peckerwoods like el president fears that we all shoot as bad as he does , we need to remind him the rest of us know how to shoot and does not need to learn any more from the Joe Biden ,as we all know Joe is full of CRAP,IT is time to put a couple of million on the mall during a time in
    session . and do the tour of all the sites.pick a date that is in session and warm.

  44. He’ll pick all three–he’ll do as much as he can get away with, legal or otherwise. And we’ll pay the price.

    There was an article here earlier asking if they could take our guns away. I said they’ll try and they’ll keep trying until they’re successful.

    I hate being right.

  45. FU OBAMA!!! You have just mobilized me to a whole new level, in a quest to remove the “D” from every office possible…

  46. Outside the top ten major (blue-voting) metropolitan areas, there isn’t a LEO in existence that will enforce this. “From my cold dead hands.”

    • You sir greatly underestimate LEOs. I would say most appointed/hired police will side with the law.

      Elected Sherriff’s on the other hand….

  47. One paragraph in the middle of the State of the Union address is all the lip service Obama gave to gun control. I suspect that NOTHING or very little is going to happen with gun control, short of another reprehensible school shooting with a black scary rifle being the weapon. Lets all pray to…..whoever, that doesn’t happen.

    Gun control is a ship that barely staying afloat! Gabrielle Giffords can travel around and testify here and there and try to rally the troops to her cause, but it’s a sinking ship and all the Bloomberg dollars can do is pound corks in the holes and try to keep the Titanic afloat just a little longer.

    • Hey, if it makes you feel better, go with it, but that an American president would imply, even as an aside, that the law doesn’t apply to him is deeply scary. And since you may have missed your civics lessons, congress is the check for the president. The legislative branch oversees the executive who oversees the judicial. The American government is the most disturbing game of rock, paper, scissors ever played, and we now have a president who declared, however fleetingly, that paper beats scissors.

  49. Aww c’mon Nick. He had much harsher rhetoric last SOTU, and it didn’t amount to much. This sounded like the exact type of lip service I would expect from this guy.
    The worst I could see him pulling off is some kind of additional importation restrictions, but with so many companies manufacturing here already, and so many just waiting for an excuse to get in the game, it could be a long game win if he does.

    • And yet we must never falter or relent until any consideration of Anti-2A legislation or Executive Orders is not even a subliminal or parenthetical consideration in any SOTU address, by any president of any flavor.

      • No doubt, keep your sidearm loaded with one in the hamper. All I’m saying is it can stay in the holster with the safety on for the time being.
        We’re all students of Cooper here, right? I just think some of us are seeing orange where it’s too damn vague to be anything but yellow.

  51. I’ll add that voting democrats out of office in CA isn’t going to be easy…maybe I should move.

  52. I obviously disagree with him concerning gun control but so many people talk s*** on this board about loading your gun and getting it ready. For 99.9% of you this bravado is such bs. It makes us look like a bunch of psychos overreacting about a speech that ppl will forget about in a few weeks.

    • Yeah, I’m about as rock n’ roll-ready as the next guy, but it’s going to take something a helluva lot more concrete than some poorly interpreted (sorry Nick) remarks on a vague 4 lines out of a canned address.
      Last year, I was ready for a fight. This year, I’m just going to stay weary as I watch this guy piss his legacy down the tubes.

    • The speech will be soon forgotten, as most SOTU are, but the NSA will still have a measure of the negative response from POTG and this will be noted and NOT forgotten for a long time.

      Keep on the pressure. They have no way of measuring what percentage of us are serious about manning the barricades, nor at what point their unconstitutional tyranny will trigger that response. Over the top responses here cost us nothing and keep them guessing. Cheap and effective strategy and few casualties.

  53. Obama, I voted for you…twice, But never thought I would regret it. Your vision of
    Protecting the people of this country
    Buy taking their 2nd amendment, and not
    Letting is protect our loved ones and life
    Is just so miss guided and twisted I cant even get close to what your thinking?
    As you my think your wiser than us, your fooled by your ego. Just because im not the President, doesnt mean You know whats best for me..PERIOD!
    I should beable to protect my lpved ones and my life with DEADLY FORCE if that is needed.
    You Dont know whar MY life has been, and even if we sat down and talked, you have know way of understanding how important it is to me and others to protect our selfs from rhe evils we were exposed to, you dont understand the people your to SERVE!
    Kevin hockxxxxxxx
    805 766 xxxx
    Im here to Help you!

    • “Is just so miss guided and twisted I cant even get close to what your thinking?”

      Precisely my thoughts (Except I know how to spell ‘misguided’, and I use an apostrophe in my contractions) on what possessed anyone to vote for that commie in the first place. (other than those who voted straight color, of course.)

    • Not ppl making bold “promises” on here. If bitching and making empty threats on msg boards stopped gun control…

  55. I’d love to see a state like Texas push back & push back hard. Seeing as the law has no meaning anymore it would be great to see all federal lands confiscated as a starter & maybe property next. Just a pipe dream I know but I sure would be proud of that great state, Randy

  56. Oh Nick, as soon as it looks like Im out of the woods with Creedmoor Tx, all of the sudden Obama is at it again? Maybe its time to get one of the sovereign indian tribes to take us gun guys in and we just buy vacation homes on the reservation where we can keep our stash of fun weapons that the Govt doesnt allow. Just kidding, Im gonna fight for my rights!

  57. I hope that everybody realizes that nobody has to obey an “executive order,” except the people directly under his supervision, (i.e., the Executive Branch, AKA the bureaucrats and storm troopers) and nobody is even supposed to obey any unconstitutional order.

    So its time for state, local, even individual, nullification: “That order is illegal and unconstitutional and it is my duty to disobey it!”

    • Rich, I’m becoming worried that the shirt I can kinda see in your (Gr)avatar is, in fact, prison jumpsuit orange.
      Talking about unlawful orders gets you solitary….

  58. Whatever Obama does, or tries to do, will be overturned by Congress, SCOTUS, od the next POTUS…Go ahead Obama, give it your best shot, because you’re just not good enough…”We The People” have defeated an entire country to win our rights and freedoms, so one individual is no match for “We The People”…

    • I’ve become fed up noticing how much “We the People” is being misused. A once powerful phrase has been trivialized and marginalized by misuse. For instance, your use in the comment isn’t even English; it’s meaningless.

      Use “The People” where appropriate instead of being just a parrot.

  61. Mark my words,

    Confiscation will be under the radar. Mark my words. He will try to do everything in stealth.

    I can tell you having lived in Washington for a long time, right now, as we speak, there are people on The Hill who are doing everything they can in their power to come up with various different means by which they can possibly enact more and more gun control.

    If you think we are in for the fight of our lives, you have truly underestimated what is going on right now, behind closed doors, in some Congressman’s or Senator’s office.

    We are truly at a crossroads in this country where it things can go either way. If you are not politically active, you absolutely need to be.

    Tony

    • Confiscation is already happening, in CA and IL. And coming soon to NY and CT. Everyday I feel, a little bit more, like I am waking up in George Orwell’s 1984.

      Oops, I said something. It’ll mean a rat helmet for sure.

  62. I think it’s just a bit of pandering to the MDA crowd and hollywood. Talking tough. I can’t see anything he can do to really effect the issue without some congressional buy-in. Screwing with NICs is the only thing I can imagine but it would be of dubious use.

  63. I see a rift forming between the states where each ideology has taken hold. Best case scenario is everyone sees the error of their ways and opts to reduce federal power, reverting to an actual federal government instead of the national government it’s become. Second best is a live and let live attitude where the pro-gun states are allowed to be pro-gun without meddling as pushes for more gun control keep failing.

    There’s that old saying: “pray you are not born into interesting times.” I say pray for the occasional boring stretch of history.

  64. I wonder how much longer law-abiding citizens ar going to permit tyranny before there is another civil war – this time to oust the diseased government and their lap dogs?

    I think what will really happen is people will cry and moan, but in the end they will comply and do as they are told.

    Because the truth is that full all the bluster people put forth on pages like this or on other mediums, the truth is they do so from a veiled comfort behind the internet and don’t have to invest anything more than text on a page. The odd one may break through and take up a pitchfork, but they are always beaten down and villified, and we always wonder if they were crazy or sane.

    Because even though they may not be cowards, no one wants to be the one who “goes first” and challenges the tyranny. They would rather wait for a solution to happen rather than make one happen, because afterall – we’re civilized.

    And while we, the civilized sit idle, those who are determined to enslave us, to control us, count upon our inaction so they can shroud us within their webs of fear and control and imprison us by our inaction before we protect ourselves, our children, and generations to come.

    The same thing happened in other countries. Good people, who would rather be free than live under tyranny, waited. Now they bow to leaders like Jong-Un and Ahmadinejad.

    They bowed before others. They are bowing before President Obama.

  68. This article is somewhat misleading. Taken in context to everything Obama said in his SOTU, basically he made more empty promises he has little authority or capability to follow-thru on. Sure he can push through more EO’s to specific agencies, but in order to emplace trade changes and nation-wide bans on weapons, he will need the approval of both houses of Congress. And we’ve seen there is no support there. 2014 is a mid-term election year and it is unlikely there will be any significant changes as many politicians won’t want to risk their jobs (btw still get out and vote people!). This is mostly bluster and politicians pandering to the “hearts and minds” of the electorate. Same thing in PsyOps. Curious will be how many take it hook line and sinker after 2014 and where it will lead us until 2016.

    • Through executive order he appointed people to the NLRB which then changed the rules for unions and unionizing. That was more than two years ago. This has already had a great economic impact on many people and companies. Several non-union business that were protected from the employees unionizing were in fact unionized; the irony is that the workers LOST more than they gained in many of those places. The appointments were ruled illegal by lower courts more than 18 months ago but the people are still in place, making rulings and policy, while the case is being appealed no to the SCOTUS. Obama can do a lot of damage with executive order.

  69. This is what a company does when it’s ready to self or close. Put a hangman in charge. I believe both sides are working together. The 1%$$$$$$$.

  71. Here is something from out in left field that a President could do but I don’t think Obama is smart enough to go there. Registration is not unconstitutional especially if ordered under the auspices of the militia clause. As Commander in Chief of all military forces including the unorganized Militia, He could order a census of firearms, which would include the owner’s, SSN, location and serial number of all weapons. He could state the government needs to this for purpose do logistics. Be hard to challenge his authority in court.

  72. Don’t get your balls in an uproar. He is powerless to do anything meaningful and the courts will stop him. His infantile grab at Executive power is his final act of downfall.

    • I hope you are right. But I have always believed our words have power in our lives. So of the things I hear the president say, are becoming scarier day by day.

  73. He basically declared himself a dictator…time to send this despot to the prison cell he deserves…

  74. Who does this jackass think he is, emperor obama? I hope America doesn’t make the same mistake and elect someone of his ilk in the next election

    • That’s exactly what he believes. Be every definition of the word, he is a narcissist. And a megalomaniac. Just like Hitler, Stalin, Saddam Hussein, and every other totalitarian throughout history. And more than a few of his predecessors. We have been protected by the design of our system of government. That will still hold. If Congress and SCOTUS were to cave, part 4 of the system of checks and balances will kick in, and he will be removed at the point of a pitchfork. Or bayonet. Or several million rifles. Our Founding Fathers anticipated this and planned for it.

  75. Two of things listed (the assault weapons ban and universal background checks) are simply not doable as Executive Orders. They require new law. Any attempt to EO them would be shot down, and quickly by the Supreme Court. And the Liberal justices would not carry his water on this one: they know the implications of letting him get away with this if there is a future Republican President. Frankly speaking, it is not even clear to me that Universal Background checks would get through the Supreme Court as a law.

  76. If you like your legislative branch, you can keep your legislative branch. Literally choked on my coffee. Sad, but true. Too funny.

  77. Never underestimate your enemies. In German we have a saying, “not macht erfinderisch” ( Emergencies make us creative)

    Obama will do ANYTHING he can to shred the 2A to pieces. Even if it is just one step for the Hillary to continue once she’s in office.

    You guys have too much faith in the Republican party and the NRA. Romney himself is as anti-gun as BHO!

    It’s coming, and it is coming very slowly, in “progressive” bite-sized legislations. I can’t imagine what two decades from now will look like.

  78. Anything that Obama says must be completely hyped up to the fullest extent to keep prices on guns and ammo as high as possible…

    • I was thinking that too. Just when you think the AR market is completely tapped out and the .22LR ammo shortage can’t get worse, Obama makes a speech.

      It’s one way to stimulate the economy.

  79. I haven’t shared anything in a couple of weeks, but this president absolutely makes me sick to my very core. Impeach this fool now who is so intent on rewriting our great American Constitution. This man is absolutely drunk with the power of the executive order.
    HE GOT TO GO!!!!!!!!!!!!

  80. so according to this FLAME DELETED cliff I’m not allowed to vote because I don’t own property therefor I’m not an American. Yet I served my country honorably. Cliff have you?. According to cliffs thinking about 60% of the United States population are not American. Cliff I have a thought. people like you is the reason the US is in this mess. You sir are the true diffenition of unAmerican and a traitor. You need to leave and take your pontus with you.

    • Rich, originally the only persons allowed to cast a vote for public office were land owners. This was done for a very valid reason: they had something at stake in the outcome of elections.

      People who are on welfare, receive government handouts, and are pretty much dependent upon the government have, historically, supported those who are giving them the support (those in power or those who promise more handouts) rather than those that are actually supporting them (the taxpayers). If someone doesn’t have a job, a livlihood, or anything to risk, then their vote may be cast for what they want. In most cases, these votes have been bought through handouts. The eventual progression of this is that people dependent on the government have to support the governmet, right or wrong, or they will lose their support. Essentially they become slaves. They’ve lost all voice and freedom and must obey.

      Several quotes pointed this out hundreds of years ago. Tocqueville said, “The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public’s money,” …
      which is a variation of Elmer Peterson’s “A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the majority discovers it can vote itself largess out of the public treasury. After that, the majority always votes for the candidate promising the most benefits with the result the democracy collapses because of the loose fiscal policy ensuing, always to be followed by a dictatorship, then a monarchy.” (which is often attributed to Tytler)

      These words ring very true. It’s easy to understand this.

      Tocqueville also said, “Democracy and socialism have nothing in common but one word, equality. But notice the difference: while democracy seeks equality in liberty, socialism seeks equality in restraint and servitude.”

      I don’t remember these quotes as well as I should, so I had to Google them up and paste them here for anyone who cared. These words, when I first heard them years ago, intriqued me. Now, as someone who is on disability, living in some pretty crummy apartments, and trying to retrain my brain after many years of non-fulfilling careers in order to do something I really enjoy – I get it.

      I don’t want to give up my right to vote. I am intelligent, bright, and greet everyone with a smile and talk to strangers as if they are long time friends. But at some point the toxicity or the voting of those around who count of free handouts has corrupted the city I grew up in. It has brought ruination to my old neighborhood and I have watched a once thriving community become empty and hollow, devoid of caring. I would give up my voice if it would prevent the vermin from voting further damage to the home I have had for all my life but will never be able to share with my children because it is filled with that same vermin.

      If you served America, I thank you. I am not saying you can’t vote, and I don’t think anyone else is either. Personally I think you have earned the right to vote through your service to America.

      Think about this though; The guy next to you receiving government cheese has no incentive to elect leaders or policies that benefit you. His only true obligation is to ensure his cheese rations in perpetuity.

  82. We all need to register as democrats. Choose the candidates in primaries and shift them back toward the center.

  83. “With the first link, the chain is forged.
    The first speech censored,
    The first thought forbidden,
    The first right denied,
    chains us all irrevocably.
    The first time any man’s freedom is trodden on, we are all damaged.
    I fear that today.” – Patrick Stewart as Jean-luc Picard, Star Trek: The Next Generation

    I fear THAT today.

  84. It just seems to me that the mainstream media and the POTUS are keeping the drumbeat of civil disarmenent around until the next truley horrifying massacre occurs. If it happens before the elections in November, they will respond quickly while the shock and horror keeps us numb. The President will say “I told you so”, his SOTU address was to keep the drumbeat going.

  85. I swear, if he had screamed he was going to lock the doors of Congress and send DHS to round up all the Bible owners and NRA members the clapping seals on both sides of the aisle would have responded with more ridiculous on cue applause. What a disgrace.

    On the plus side, it appears El Presidente A Vie managed to channel Stalin, Mussolini, Pol Pot, Idi Amin, Chavez, Castro, and Alec Baldwin all in one speech.

  86. “As every grade-schooler learns in civics class…” You’re dating yourself. Civics hasn’t been taught in quite a while, which is part of the problem: Very few are teaching civic duty, obligation, and responsibility. By the second generation, the concept is lost.

  87. Neither the right or the left have shown much respect for our constitution, the right to keep and bear arms obviously one of the more important ones to this readership. If you truly believe that we as citizens have a right to bear arms, that large government is bad and this current administrations love of ignoring checks and balances (which will only encourage future presidents to do the same) is detrimental to our future and freedom then you need to consider libertarian candidates in upcoming elections.
    We need to get government back to the state and local level where politicians are actually held responsible by their neighbors for the actions, or inactions, they take.

  89. will he pick door #1 , 2 , or #3….. i don’t care if he picks his ass and smells his fingers

  90. When I saw this man’s inauguration back in high school, I had an undeniable gut feeling that kept me from clapping like everyone else; a strong suspicion that his “first in American history” status would go straight to his head. As sure as the sky is blue, I was right. He values our system of checks and balances only when they work in his favor. When the courts, congress, and people say “no”, he stamps his feet like a spoiled little Napoleon; utilizing every loophole he can find to get his way. Any politician, regardless of their leanings, who nonchalantly says “fuck the system” on national television is a wannabe dictator, period

    This is the culmination of everything we’ve seen since Newtown. The talks of “compromise” are over folks, and we’re catching these bastards flaunting their true colors out in the open. Use these moments to your advantage by showing them to every fudd and fence-sitter you know and convincing them to join our side.

  91. Okay, we need to stop the continuation of scare tactics here. It doesn’t matter how many executive orders this idiot pens. They are not laws. They are not legally binding, especially if they violate the constitution. THe only thing that can affect gun ownership is a law enacted by congress and then only if it is ratified by the house and signed by The present douchebag occupying the White House. Learn Civics 101. THe bigger danger is for people in states like California who are allowing their state governments to enact unconstitutional laws.

    • Oh really??

      The 1986 executive order affected certain ammo being allowed here under the guise of “cop killer bullets.” No legislative or judicial oversight.

      The 1989 import ban on freedom rifles was an executive order that now has force of law that was never challenged.

      The 1993 executive order banned certain freedom pistols from being imported. No one challenged that.

      The even well less known 1998 import ban also an executive order has the force of law that was never challenged.

      The 2005 barrel ban was an executive order that has the force of law that was never challenged.

      Seems to me the President can ban imported guns and ammo altogether with no one challenging him based on the ones that are already in place. Also every sitting president since Reagan has signed an executive order in the same regard so why would Obama be any different?

      • I believe ruling against the will of We The People while spending our great grandchildrens income while ignoring the USConstitution while openly lying to Americans while refusing to allow enforcement of our immigration laws… necessarily qualifies the first Black president as a traitor to this coutry. Now go drink your Kool Aid.

  93. I didn’t know so many hillbillies had computers. Maybe once you guys sober up, you might start to make sense. Ok, maybe not.

  94. The fools who voted for this libtard (RE-ELECTED) on this forum need to wise up. Never vote libtard (democrat) again! 14′ midterms in Nov. Elections matter.

  95. All bipartisan extremism aside (I think it sets a bad example to call him “traitor”, whether or not he’s breaking his oath to protect the constitution), It blows my mind that people shrug it off whenever he makes a “with or without congress” statement. It’s ridiculous that they’re acting like Congress shouldn’t listen to the people or when they disagree with the president they’re all bought off cowards. And then he goes off and makes a statement that is, by definition, what a dictator does. The only reason I can see people not freaking out is if they are just ignorant of why this is bad.

  96. It involves class 3…..fully auto machine guns…read, find out for yourself.

  98. the most powerful man in thw world has even more power due to the Patriot Act. The abominantion should never had been passed, yet it was by most of congress(republicans and democrats) They want control and that is what they got. Any politican for freedom would be working hard to overturn that.

    H E L L O O O! is any one in here? Does anyone care? All of our rights have been sold down the river.

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