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Every time you hear a politician or a media personality mention “gun violence,” you should mentally translate that phrase to “gang violence.” Not only that, but ask yourself if that politician or media outlet has an agenda by mislabeling gang violence as something entirely different.

Obviously politicians who have enabled the “criminal justice reforms” that have directly resulted in the out-of-control increases in violent crime across America don’t want to talk about criminals and gangs. In fact, California’s Gov. Newsom even went so far as to actuall apologize for using the word “gang” when describing the organized groups of criminals who commit crimes (otherwise known as ‘gangs’).

Rather than correctly identify those who commit the majority of violent crimes in this country, countless failed and inept politicians like the Land of Lincoln’s Governor J.B. Pritzker and Murder City, USA’s Mayor Lori Lightfoot instead blame law-abiding gun owners.

They continue to promote more gun control laws and more government spending to redirect peoples’ attention away from the failures of their feckless policies and misplaced spending priorities.

As for the media, there’s a reason the great majority of Americans don’t trust them any more. Nine percent of Americans now have “a great deal” of trust in what they hear in the media. To put that into perspective, roughly four percent of the population think lizard people “control our societies by gaining political power.”

Too many of today’s media members are nothing more than Democrat party operatives with bylines who dutifully spout leftist talking points. They willfully ignore stories that are bad for their political allies and their agenda. Or they cover them…with a pillow. Until they stop moving.

At the same time, they’re quick to castigate law-abiding gun owners for the actions of actual criminals, terrorists, and lunatics who commit crimes with firearms.

The next time you see some politician or candidate talking about the problem of so-called “gun violence,” call them out on it. Pols usually squirm if you make them address the real issue that drives the majority violent crime in cities: gangs.

In centers of corruption like Chicago, they may aggressively deflect the discussion away from gangs because a lot of gangs in places like Chi-town have some very cozy relationships with local elected officials to provide votes in exchange for the politicians avoiding discussions about gang-related crimes.

As for the media, do the math. If they’re trumpeting talking points like “gun violence,” they’re probably gaslighting you about other topics too. Look deeper to see what else they’re lying to you about.

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77 COMMENTS

  1. Are we certain that it’s gang violence? The last time I drove through Shitcago, I saw packs of guns running beside the highway, and sometimes across the highway. Just like packs of coyotes, or wolves, the guns were out there, hunting for prey!

    • Every Spring I head to Gary, Indiana to watch schools of the majestic AR-15 swarm upstream on the Calumet River.

  2. Gang violence, thug violence, whatever you like. STOP calling it gun violence, only the idiots among us believe you!

  3. joe xiden. He’s single handedly destroyed the democratic party. Unfortunately he may have destroyed the US with it.

    Worst president ever.

    • Let’s try to recall, there is no Democratic Party, just as there is no Republicanic Party. They are the Democrat Party, and there is nothing democratic about them, or their goals for the country.

    • Next Jethro W M you will be telling us how great a President Herr Drumpf was and how he united the country and what a great patriot he was when he had a modern 1923 style beer hall putsch to establish a dictatorship. And you claim you are not a Nazi. Tell us another one Jethro you are a laugh a minute.

      • Never did see your list of degrees you uneducated buffoon. You’re the nazi here. I would not join a group that would have you as a member.

        Mid terms are coming. And even a moron like yourself will be able to see that debacle.

        • Mr. ‘Hitler was a great man’ jwm predicted Trump would win the 2020 election, and we all know how that turned out.

        • JWM – PHD of Educational Psychology. Seriously. Not kidding.

          I tried giving him some hints about a month ago but I’m not going to out and out Dox the guy. But I do wonder what his employer would think about having a real live commie working for them.

        • Well, if he’s working in education, he’ll fit right in with the other commies. Red for Ed, and all that. Also, have you ever noticed how many people with psychology degrees are mentally unbalanced? Dial both of those factors up to 11, and you’ve got our resident mentally ill leftist.

      • dacian: a modern 1923 style beer hall putsch to establish a dictatorship

        “I loved when the violent terrorists made sure to respect the velvet ropes in Statuary Hall.” (photo)
        – Norm Macdonald

        Leftists are psychological broken people (seriously, check the stats) who try to resolve their unhappiness with themselves and the world by imagining they’re surrounded by enemies who need to be controlled or destroyed.

        • When we worked at the mental health clinic the way we differentiated the patients from the staff was that patients didn’t have name badges, staff did. Name badge=staff; no name badge=patients. Otherwise, they all dressed in scrubs and all exhibited bizarre behavior which is why we needed some way of delineating between the two.

      • Guess what, dacian the stupid,

        Trump WAS a better President than that senile, drooling, incompetent, serial-child groping idiot y’all bamboozled into the White House. Afghanistan. “Build Back Bolshevik”. Southern Border. Ukraine. Inflation. Going from energy independence to importing oil and BEGGING OPEC to reduce the prices. Supply chain. Continuing idiotic and ineffective “lockdowns”. An “Infrastructure” bill that was less than 10% “infrastructure”. Our military in disarray with wokism. Can’t get his dumbass “Let’s Federalize elections, AGAINST the explicit language of the Constitution. Stock market crashing. Real estate market crashing. Iran going back to working on a bomb. No one in Europe is taking the U.S. seriously, anymore. Putin is ready to take over the Ukraine.

        Remind me again, dacian, just how stupid you are. Tell us you’re stupid without saying you’re stupid.

        • And to top it off, at least Trump didn’t yell at the press every time they asked a question he didn’t like. At least Trump didn’t use vulgar language during press conferences. Just what the U.S. needs in order to show the world what classy leaders we have. Well, at least he hasn’t ordered the SS to beat the crap out of some reporter who asks him a question he can’t answer — yet.

      • dacian the Dunderhead I have a RED HOT NEWS FLASH for you. Donald J Trump accomplished more in his four years as president than Obuma the Phony did in eight years. Of course that would not be hard, would it?

      • Only In Capitalvania
        quote: “Mr. ‘Hitler was a great man’ jwm predicted Trump would win the 2020 election, and we all know how that turned out.”

        Tell us dacian, how many different accounts do you have here? Hitler was a friend of your buddy Joe Stalin until he turned on him and invaded the Soviet Union. Then all of a sudden, Nazism became “right wing”. Fact: Socialism is the basis of Nazism and Fascism.

    • The worst president in US history is FDR. He did immense damage to our republic that we still live with and may never recover from.

  4. Yall are fucking stupid. While there are gangs that commit violence, a gang is also the government as that daily do extortion and racketeering as well. They even use violence to some extent. When people use the word gang, society automatically assumes it’s black people. Thats wrong. Hell criminals and gangs come in all colors, shapes, and sizes, and even cloak themselves as legal in government. So with that being said think for yourself and don’t let the government, govern your mental which they persuade you to think the way they do.

      • Yes, the opening shuts down anyone who thinks otherwise, and his “When people use the word gang, society automatically assumes it’s black people.” puts a HUGE “I’m a racist POS” exclamation point after the shutdown.

        Well done freedumb.👍

        • dacian the nazi. You upset because I asked for your degrees. We both know you’re not a product of higher education.

        • Ooh, dacian!!! Since you’re SO smart, and SO “educated”, why don’t you tell us about all your degrees!!

          Idiot, your writing style alone convinces me you probably didn’t graduate high school. P*** off, dacian the stupid; you’re too stupid to insult.

        • LampOfDiogenes dacian is that one watt bulb that went out last week. He feels guilty for his being White so, he tries to make up for it with his witticisms. He truly exudes the statement, “you can’t fix stupid”.

    • An systematic comparison and contrast between our presently constituted federal government and an organized crime syndicate is overdue.

    • gipper…Perhaps one day justice will be served when you’re thinking Black Boogey Man and a trusty lily white criminal who looks like you makes you their wife whether you like it or not.

      • The subject is all the violence being perpetrated by thugs with guns. Overwhelmingly in Chitcago, and all the other places, to the tune of well over 90%, it’s one culture that is responsible. I live near a city that is relatively small in comparison, but has had a very large increase in shootings and murders. I see it all the time in the news, and I have yet to see one where a white person was responsible. There are certainly white thugs as well, but when you are attacking a known problem, you don’t start with those who are responsible for a minute portion of it.
        Also, why do you assume that I am white?

      • Whoa whoa whoa.

        Thug (sub)culture and Black-American culture are not the same; not every black individual you come across is some violent, opportunistic, ill-bred and ill-raised loud mouth jackal.

        Black people popped in your head when the term ‘cultural violence’ came up. Ghost didn’t bring up race, you did.

        • No doubt African-American culture is much more and much bigger that street culture. But in a Venn Diagram, how much of street culture would you predict would appear within the circle of African-American culture.

  5. These are the same journalists that have forgotten about Xiden’s disastrous pullout from Afghanistan, and according to the latest surveys think that the US citizens back a disastrous war with Russia in Ukraine, so we can protect someone else’s border while illegals stream across ours…. must have something to do with someone’s cozy deal with Burisma there? This shit and his latest SC appointment will be used to whitewash the shit job that he is doing well past the midterms.

  6. When Gun Control zealots single out guns all it takes to deflate their balloon are Gun Owners encouraging gullible America to fact check the truth…

    1) The Second Amendment is one thing.

    2) The criminal misuse of firearms, bricks, bats, knives, vehicles, etc. is another thing.

    3) History Confirms Gun Control in any shape, matter or form is a racist and nazi based Thing.

  7. How about we get our definitions straight and our language together? It’s also not an assault rifle. It’s an Armalite Rifle.

    And while we are at it…
    Texas does NOT have Constitutional Carry. The state of Texas has Permitless Carry.

  8. No, it’s not just gang violence. Don’t be an asshole.

    It’s robberies, it’s disgruntled boyfriends, husbands, and exs, it’s workplace shootings, it’s school shootings, it’s arguments that go out of control, etc.

    • “…it’s disgruntled boyfriends, husbands, and exs, it’s workplace shootings, it’s school shootings, it’s arguments that go out of control…”

      Progbot spotted.

      As an astute observer up-thread stated, when attacking a known problem, you don’t focus on only on the statistical noise at the edge of it. If you actually want to solve it, that is.

      If you don’t want to solve it — as “progressives” and “liberals” manifestly do not — you ignore the elephant in the room, and try to make everyone else ignore it too, by introducing the red herrings above.

      You insinuate that 100 million-plus peaceful, legally gun-owning people are the real problem…because how do you know who’s secretly disgruntled, who might suddenly “go out of control”? Fear, uncertainty, and doubt cloud the perceptions, so that even if you do see the elephant in the room, you can’t focus on what it really is.

      Well, if you put that aside and focus on what the problem really is, you’ll find that 99% of “gun violence” is exactly what this article says it is. The product of a dysfunctional, violent, mostly urban subculture in which young men (most of them black, but not all) form gangs and engage in organized criminal behavior.

      How do we solve that problem? Honestly, *we* probably don’t. Too many sacred cows would be skewered on both sides of the political fence.

      I do know how to make it worse, though…thanks to America’s “progressives,” we’re watching that happen in real time, right now. Don’t be a progtard. Progtards make everything worse.

  9. Nearly 2/3s of the gun violence isn’t just gang violence but Black gang violence. Then again, some marijuana bootleggers were given a free pass for shooting at my son because they were lilly White rather than Black.

  10. Every time I hear these left wing feckless politicans talk about gun violence the next words out of their pie holes is some type of more gun control.Never mind the thousands of federal laws with regards to felonys committed with guns.They keep singing the same tune.

  11. Is the SloTUS and Francis taking turns hitting on one of Hunters crack pipes in that pic?
    Let’s go Brandon, and fake Hispanic “Beto”!

    • You should admit that story about your son holding burglars at the end of his AR-15 is a lie, 🤡.

      • Cuicker Tarlson, what makes you think he’s lying? Do you really think that an AR-15 in the hands of a gun owner could not make a burglar think twice? Maybe you wouldn’t but normal people sure would.

        • His name is “Cucker Tarlson” and you bother to respond to him?

          CUCKer Tarlson FFS.

          Jesus, what do these people/bots need to do, name themselves something like “TTAG Chat Bot #26345” before you people stop engaging them?

        • Yeah, strych9, I responded to him to put him in his place.
          Someone has to counter their drivel. You see there are some gullible people here hang on who never post.

        • ‘Drivel’. Bah! Know this: When TSHTF, ‘WEB III’ will be among the first to surrender, comply and narc on the true patriots.

        • Cucker Tarlson, FACT! You are a dummy. Not a patriot. Narc? Hell, ass wipe, I was a police officer and a State Corrections Sergeant.
          The only time you ever came close to a patriot was walking past one on the street. You can walk, can’t you?

        • “I responded to him to put him in his place. Someone has to counter their drivel.”

          My patience with this idiocy is at an end. Flat out: Keep telling yourself that as you assist him in doing exactly what s/he/it wants to do because you’re ignorant.

          I mean, Jesus-Tittyfucking-Christ, you guys recognize the fact that there’s a way, way better than 50% shot that you’re not even responding to an actual person, right?

          There’s no “whippersnapper” to “get learned” in those cases. It’s a fucking bot that insults people and posts shit that’s kinda-sorta related to things on a forum. This kind of thing has taken over Reddit.

          For FUCK’S sake you people are ignorant. Go watch the Two Minute Papers YouTube Channel and learn something.

          GPT-3 is an AI that wrote an entire fucking op-ed for a newspaper and it is <indistinguishable from a person writing such a thing except that it tells you it's an AI GPT-3 came out in 2020 as an update to GPT-2 which was less than a year old. The jump in capacity was mind-blowing, something like 170 billion learning parameters that were created by machine learning for further machine learning.

          Stop responding to this shit. Trolls aren’t ruining the TTAG comment section, you are by responding to them.

        • strych9 Frankly, I don’t give a rat’s behind if your patience has worn out. It’s people like you with your closed mouth why we have a problem with the Left. The louder they shout the more people here them and with no one to counter their drivel it becomes “gospel”. For some unGodly reason, you silent ones have not gotten that message through your thick skulls.

          I suggest that you wake your lazy ass up and join the fight instead of sitting back on your haunches watching it all go to rat-shit. If you choose to sit back, you have a choice, sit back and watch while getting out of the way, or join the fight.

  12. These anti-gun radicals keep blaming an inanimate object for the violence. We don’t have a gun violence problem; we have a people violence problem.

  13. “Gun violence” is a perfectly useful and logical term. There is no interest, much less attempt, to corral “gang violence”, or “organized group violence”; too damn hard and dangerous. The term “gun violence” is designed to convey the meaning that the ~100,000,000 legal gun owners are the problem, the threat. And that the overwhelming majority of those legal gun owners are white people who are likely to mentally snap, and go around shooting the nice people in the places where nice people live and play.

    The Dims believe that it will be safe and easy to take guns from those ready-to-snap legal gun owners. But I have this nagging suspicion that the gun-grabbers actually fear success at taking guns from law abiding people. That would end the political talking point.

    Solving problems is actually the bane of socialists/leftists.

    • “The term “gun violence” is designed to convey the meaning that the ~100,000,000 legal gun owners are the problem, the threat.”

      Nah, that’s the logical outgrowth of the intent, and proof that you’re actually using your brain which is not the hope of the people saying shit like this.

      “Gun violence” blames an inanimate object. That’s the goal here, to get people think that if we just got rid of these objects that we’d have utopia.

      Objects are easy to clean up or dispose of. That’s the mental trick here. To get people to think that if we *just* get rid of all the guns.

      That, of course, leads to questions like “How would you accomplish this?”, which at this point in time is a grave offense because it indicates that you’ve had too much to think. You’re not supposed to think, you’re supposed to start down the road with policy prescriptions run by your betters so that they can begin other polices that they wish not to discuss… yet.

      As Bricktop said; It’ll get you in a lot of trouble thinking, Errol. I wouldn’t do too much of it.

      • “As Bricktop said; It’ll get you in a lot of trouble thinking, Errol. I wouldn’t do too much of it.”

        Great quote; on point.

        • It’s a remarkable apt statement across a wide range of landscapes.

          I just keep hoping (probably foolishly) that the 2A community will recognize the other landscapes where the same tricks are used before it’s too late. Kinda what I’ve been driving at here for years, that the tricks the antis use are not unique or novel. These tactics are standard fare for a lot of different things and have been for a century. [It’s a form of weaponized psychology that you have to understand on at least a basic level in order to be able to fight back against. Uncommon touches on this over on the MDA thread where he discusses the ineffectiveness of statistical arguments. He’s not wrong about that. Stats is hard for most people and on top of that you can’t reason someone out of a position they emoted themselves into and the whole point of weaponized psychology and manipulation is that people are manipulated on an emotional level in such a manner that they become resistant to reality until they get really, really hurt by it.]

          There are forms of tyranny against which an armed society is, at best, a subpar defense and these things have been coalescing together for quite some time. When, as opposed to if, they come together in force people will either be forewarned and therefore forearmed or they will get rolled, hard.

          At this point I suspect it’s the latter, in fact if these things were in to come into full effect on Monday most of the people on this very site would line up to turn in their guns within a month. The ones who protest my statement here the loudest would be closer to the front of the line because that knee-jerk reaction indicates the depth of ignorance (as opposed to idiocy, mind you) on the topic at hand. That’s not an insult, it’s a statement of fact. Single minded fidelity to the 2A is admirable but it is nonetheless myopic.

          The upshot being that the people attempting to impose such things are incompetent and don’t even begin to understand the word “logistics”. As such they probably can’t bring all of it together correctly at the same time.

          That has a variety of implication depending on how things work out over time. Ultimately the outcome ranges from suboptimal to a complete and utter fucking disaster, probably leaning towards the latter since incompetent people being incompetent they don’t know when to cut bait and fuck off to go do something else.

          These are the things which weaponized psychology is meant to prepare the ground for and against which freedom-minded people, well *educated* people and busy people have the weakest defenses, which is exactly why such weapons are so powerful. They should get our attention but they are being run in the background in such a manner that they do not. But run they do and it’s a huge mistake to think that they are running for no reason.

          “There’s a switch. For once our asses get saved by sheer incompetence” comes to mind, but that seems decidedly hope-y to me and hope is not a good plan IMHO.

          It’s also worth noting that simply understanding how these things function is not sufficient. One also needs to delve pretty deeply into why these systems have been weaponized. Otherwise it’s very easy to fall into conspiracy theory by connecting dots in ways that they shouldn’t be connected. This is, in and of itself, a trap laid by the very system such a person is trying to fight against. A trap meant to lay out bait which, if taken, will lead to that person mostly being discredited via a combination of mistakes on their part mixed with other people’s learned expectations and confirmation bias. Discrediting can occur even though the person is mostly correct in hindsight. Hell, in a lot of cases even if they’re 100% on-the-nose they sound nuts to most people.

          Hence the argument I had last week here on TTAG about the survival of the US dollar. The person I had that discussion with thinks that sounds nuts, and maybe it is nuts since I make no claims to clairvoyance or omniscience, but what that person never did was say “OK, operationally define your terms and let’s hash this out” because saying that the dollar is on the chopping block does sound crazy-as-fuck in many regards. And mostly, I don’t care how it sounds because I’m not going to take the time to hash all of it out unless I’m explicitly asked to since this is not The Truth About Government Weaponization of Monetary Policy, it’s TTAG.

          As I’ve said here more than a few times; People need to think about how international shipping affects their 2A rights. Once you really see that connection you’ll be at the start of the road to understanding what I’m talking about here which, for the umpteenth time, is not some wild conspiracy. I know this because the people in charge of shit TELL you they want to do this on a regular basis and everyone acts like they aren’t saying it because where it’s being said is usually some place no one even knows exists, like a speech given to some trade group in Mexico by a Manager from the Bank of International Settlements in Switzerland. I’m just aggregating that information from meetings like that and from Fed meetings and from Congressional documents, taking the logical outcome of the combination and presenting it.

          I’m simply presenting the logical outcome of what these people SAY they are doing and working towards. Nothing else. My view is simply wider because, IMHO, it must be if you want any sort of freedom at all going forward and the 2A is, much as many don’t want to hear it, just a part of that package.

          Or, I guess, you can just scream about being a sheep dog or a wolf or whatever as you watch the paddock being erected around you. Maybe you’ll get it on your way to slaughter but I kinda doubt it. Probably most people will be prattling on about RINOs and Commies as the air-tool is pressed against their head.

          When I’ve said “all the marbles” before I really have meant ALL the fucking marbles, and perhaps I should have stated explicitly what I mean: A great game on the level of old Empire-y games.

  14. “The next time you see a politician ,,,,,”
    I do not see them that often and when I do its usually 400 yards away through a high powered scope because I’m afraid they might have coronavirus.

  15. Steven Paddock the nut case at Los Vegas could not have killed 60 some people and crippled 400 some by throwing knives at them from 400 yards away. He used more than one automatic assault rifle (Bump stock equipped which fired every bit as fast as a real machine gun, no difference.)

    It was tried by British Terrorists at the London Bridge incident when they walked into a bar with knives but the patrons of the bar beat the shit out of them with beer bottles and chairs. In Capitalvania the terrorists nut cases would have bought used assault rifles or built ghost guns and slaughtered everyone in the bar in seconds.

    Gangs by and large get their guns from the huge black market in second hand guns which comes up the Iron Pipe Line from States that have lax gun laws making the strict gun laws of other states useless. Police tracings and more than one study prove it beyond all doubt. Yet the Far Right Nut Cases scream “Losses can never be too high if it inconveniences us to sign for a weapon”.

    And the newest gun problem is that many gang members and nut cases are now building their own ghost guns from kits available on line because they cannot buy new ones from a licensed dealer. The latest raid called “Casper” certainly found that out with many of the guns being built from kits.

    • dacian the Dunderhead. There is NO gun problem. There is a violence problem created by you Lefties with your social welfare programs and permissiveness. How about that Manhattan DA? He;’s another Dunderhead. Are you two related?

    • A Native American story goes like this.
      A woman was out gathering firewood when she came upon a frozen snake.
      She brought the snake into her wigwam and warmed it up.
      When the snake had gotten warm enough the snake bit the woman.
      The woman said “why did you do that? ” the snake said, ” because I’m a snake.”
      Now that’s bullsht too, because you know why?
      That squaw would have warmed that snake up enough to skin it and mixed it in with some corn and ate it.

      • I heard this differently…..

        Lil’d was sitting in his pedo-van (painted with images of Marvel X-Men characters of course) beside a lake.
        The little progtard was masterbaiting feverishly to a video (on his Apple product of course) of a yet to be 18 Greta Thunburg.
        Having to take a break because of his inability to maintain anything resembling an erection (the 🤡’s a Beta male don’tchaknow) he spied a playground on the other side of the lake.
        Seeing all the little pre-pubesent boys gave him an idea.🤔 I’ll go over there and recruit all those boys for the Ohio chapter of NAMBLA.
        He couldn’t drive around the lake, as usual, his van (given to him by his aunt, with over 200k miles) was out of gas. His mom had stopped giving him money, wants him to get his job at the bus company back. Seems lil’ds a master at sucking farts out of foam cushions. He misses the perk of all the free “pre-chewed” gum that came with that sweet bus company gig.
        So he would have to cross the lake. He put his flaccid junk back in his paints and while climbing out of his pedo-van, lil’d spotted whiner49er nearby.
        Whiner was lakeside herding ADD addled feral cats, he wants to become good at it, in case it ever becomes an Olympic event (the IOC is debating this possibility. It will be decided shortly before the announcment that ALL future Olympics will be held in only two locations, Beijing or Moscow. Whiner is totally cool with that).
        Well, lil’d approached whiner, and explained his delemma of needing to get across the lake to recruit some fresh boys for NAMBLA. Whiner replied “NAMBLA! I’m a founding member of my local chapter. Michael Jackson and I wrote the charter together at Neverland. We were up to our eyeballs in little boys that whole week. Good times man”. Then he let out a loooooong wistful sigh.
        Whiner (being the POS that he is), told lil’d he’s totally cool with the violation of young boys by perverted progtard men (he pro “choice” too. Has a huge “ABORT ALL HUMAN FETUSES” across his back). Whiner went on to say he would swim across the lake with lil’d on his back, could do it easily.
        Whiner jumped in the lake, then lil’d jumped on whiners back, and immidately drown.
        Seems lil’d and whiner were actually one and the same, like Brad Pitt and Ed Norton in the movie “Fight Club”.

        The moral? Many TTAG trolls are just one person. 🤔

        That’s how I heard that story.

    • dacian the stupid,

      No, he could have done like the Islamist jihadist nutcase in France, and just driven a large rental truck through a crowded pedestrian walkway, and killed and injured MORE people, you pathetic, drooling moron.

      The cable awaits; do tend to it. Oh, and you’re too stupid to insult.

    • “He used more than one automatic assault rifle”

      You should learn what an automatic rifle is. The phrase “assault rifle” is meaningless. FYI, the 2A requires the people have access to automatic weapons.

      “Bump stock equipped which fired every bit as fast as a real machine gun, no difference.”

      Some people can pull the trigger as fast as an automatic weapon. The only point you’re making is that you don’t understand the basics of guns or gun terminology.

      “which comes up the Iron Pipe Line from States that have lax gun laws”

      This myth has been debunked so many times only liars continue to say it.

      “Police tracings and more than one study prove it beyond all doubt.”

      False.

      ““Losses can never be too high if it inconveniences us to sign for a weapon””

      Rates of gun ownership are negatively correlated with crime, especially violent crime, i.e., gun ownership reduces the number of people dying at the hands of criminals.

      “And the newest gun problem is that many gang members and nut cases are now building their own ghost guns from kits available on line because they cannot buy new ones from a licensed dealer.”

      The newest “gun problem” is defunding the police and DA’s refusing to prosecute violent criminals.

  16. As a practical matter I’ve always been more concerned about kinetics as opposed to violence.

    Violence is a human thing that supposes intent but it doesn’t actually harm anyone in and of itself.

    Kinetics on the other hand will fuck your shit up if you get in the way of the object in question.

    • Well, we’ve gotten ‘strych9’s’ perspective. Now I hope we’ll hear from someone who’a * not * a limp wristed coward and FUDD.

      • Well, Cuck (good handle for you!!!), if you want to hear from someone who’s NOT a limp-wristed coward, you CERTAINLY won’t be listening to yourself!!! Go away, nameless, brainless troll, you’re interrupting the adults, who are trying to have a conversation.

        Oh, and like dacian the stupid, you’re too stupid to insult.

  17. Well how about me?
    I’m a coward,kinda sometimes, but no fudd and I dont have a limp wrist because I exercise it daily with a hot jar of vaseline and my Hillorly Limited Edition Swimsuit Collection®️
    .
    Kin-etics, get you hurt, you betcha, you dont want gettin in the middle of a Redneck and his sister at the wrong time.

  18. @strych9
    “…you can’t reason someone out of a position they emoted themselves into and the whole point of weaponized psychology and manipulation is that people are manipulated on an emotional level in such a manner that they become resistant to reality.”

    Dietrich Bonhoffer dealt with that in his WW2 era treatise on stupidity
    https://medium.com/lessons-from-history/bonhoeffers-theory-of-stupidity-explains-the-world-perfectly-957cbb3fbac1

    “Against stupidity we are defenseless. Neither protests nor the use of force accomplish anything here; reasons fall on deaf ears; facts that contradict one’s prejudgment simply need not be believed – in such moments the stupid person even becomes critical – and when facts are irrefutable they are just pushed aside as inconsequential, as incidental. In all this the stupid person, in contrast to the malicious one, is utterly self satisfied and, being easily irritated, becomes dangerous by going on the attack. For that reason, greater caution is called for when dealing with a stupid person than with a malicious one. Never again will we try to persuade the stupid person with reasons, for it is senseless and dangerous.”

  19. The bodies in a local WalMart or grocery store or school or church……the bad guy with a gun…..or the gang member with a gun…. the mentally deficient guy with a gun……or the terribly distraught family member of a gun shooting victim…… or a gun violence survivor……or the Feelz-Gooder Social Do-Gooder….. or the the “hair-on-fire, we’re-all-gonna-die” contingent……or the skin color only voter…..are the politician’s easily manipulated Useful Idiot Tools to achieve his power and control agenda.
    The new agenda for humanity requires that no one will have the capacity to fight back. It has been said: “Our Task of creating a Socialist America can only succeed when those who would resist us have been totally disarmed.” No other explanation is possible.
    History has repeatedly demonstrated that disarming good people in the name of making bad people harmless only eventually facilitates politicians shooting their own countrymen. History…learn from it or be doomed to relive it….or die from it.
    And there it is, boys and girls, the Xiden/KamelHo/OBlunder/Pigloosi/Slummer/FineStain “Common Sense” Gun Violence Prevention Plan in a nut shell. It’s all about protecting Libtard/Socialist anti-America tyrannical politicians’ asses, for what they have and intend to do to America, from American Patriots with AR-15s and “high capacity” magazines, saying “ENOUGH!!! NO MORE!!!

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