Ontario Cops Trade SIG P229 for GLOCK 17

1. Glock 17 with a 5-round magazine. Nice choice.

   • Right! Plenty of rounds.

     • With an NY2 trigger & Islander Arms California compliant bolt action! :O

   • I know you’re just having a goof, but Canada has a 5-round limit for rifle mags, 10-round for pistol mags.

2. Glock’s down with OPP?

3. Canucks want perfection too?

4. OK, I gotta ask: what’s with “GLOCK” always being in upper-case letters? It’s not an acronym, it’s named after a dude. It’s almost like like seeing the word LORD when reading the Bible. What gives?

   • That’s the way the company spells its name. SIG SAUER and BLACKHAWK! do it the same way. That’s why we write it that way.

   • Because this is a stupid “appeal to authority” advertisement for Glawk, published by a guy who carries a $5000+ engraved 1911 as his “EDC” in the sweaty Texas summer and declares that that he doesn’t like Glocks. 😛

   • Also, the reason “Lord” is written as “LORD” in some versions of the Bible is because it’s standing in for the tetragrammaton “YHWH,” which is the proper name of the Abrahamic God and never read or spoken by modern Jews as His actual name “Yahweh.” When people write in allcaps though I always read it in my head as if they are yelling at me. YHWH doesn’t mean Lord, though- Adonai means Lord, and they won’t even say/read that.

5. You down with OPP?

   Yeah, you know me.

   • “Ja, du kennst mich” just doesn’t roll off the tongue quite right…

6. The Glock 17 is an excellent duty pistol, and I say that even though I’m not a fan of Glocks. IMO, the 17 is still the best pistol Glock ever made.

   • I agree wholeheartedly. My 17 is a gun that I will never sell, and has had thousands of rounds with no issue. There are guns like the PPQ with better triggers, but the Glock just works for me.

     That being said, my EDC off duty is a Shield, and I absolutely love a good wheel gun.

7. Wish they’d trade a few of those P229’s my way…

8. Too bad they’re not 17M units.

   • I’m pretty sure they want their officers to not be decapitated by flying slides.

9. GLOCKS are ugly. Enough said.

   • “Sir, I refuse to submit to arrest by you because your pistol is ugly.”

     • I’m doubting many cops would have much of sense of humor over that line.

   • You spelled “perfection” wrong.

10. Glock is like the Borg, they assimilate everything.

11. Why would I buy an underpowered Glock with a neutered magazine, eh? I don’t really care what the cops carry, ya friggin hoser!

12. Both are good service weapons. I’d prefer the Sig, but Glock is cheaper and maybe easier to train shooters on.

    • No doubt lighter, cheaper and striker fired played into the decision. It seems to be a difficult concept to teach people the heavy first pull and subsequent easy single action pull inherent in DA/SAs. That puzzled empty looks gets old fast.

    • THIS^^^

      This is about 1) 40 vs 9mm 2) Cost factors for the new units, upkeep, etc 3) Training factors and 4) Glock can offer DEEP discounts to keep newly dried ink on contracts.

      This probably has more to do with the discount than performance or anything else.

13. The right choice.

14. For a moment when I saw the headline, I was afraid all the Glock fuds would already be asleep.

15. I’m assuming that many of these officers are heavily gloved much of the year. Ayoob touts the Sig 220 (really any of the Sig steel hammer DA/SA’s) as particularly well suited to winter law enforcement (large trigger guard area, ability to thumb ride the slide and hammer when reholstering to avoid accidental discharge).

    Living below the gnat line, rarely needing gloves, and owning and shooting Glocks and Sigs (19, 43, 320, P6), I’m curious: does the Glock have sufficient open space in the trigger guard for heavy gloves?

    Will there need to be additional training on reholstering~~without that aftermarket Glock back plate “thingy” that pivots if the striker is moving rearward during reholstering I’d be concerned with accidental discharges if a parka string gets into the holster and trigger guard and defeats the Glock trigger safety.

    Certainly without gloves on a cold day (or even really hot days) I can see an advantage to polymer over steel for comfort (even if my Gen1 G17 was like holding a bar of wet soap whenever the relative humidity was above 60%-and it is always above 60% in Georgia).

    • I currently live in North Dakota, and have lived in interior Alaska as well.

      Shooting with heavy gloves isn’t something that most cops are required to do regularly, even in the very cold areas of the country. Usually, they are out in the cold for short periods of time (think traffic stop, then back in the vehicle), so thinner high-tech gloves work just fine. In extreme cold weather, they can layer loose-fitting warmer gloves or mittens over thin gloves, remove the protective outer layer quickly by tucking it under the opposing armpit and pulling the hand out prior to drawing the pistol, if needed. If they know in advance they will be needing a firearm before leaving the vehicle, then out come the long guns, which are more cold-weather-clothing-friendly AND more efficient at stopping trouble.

      The Gen4 Glock frame texture is so far ahead of the Gen1 for grippyness, that it’s like night and day. It’s much better than even the Gen3 pistols, which have been in active service in hot and cold climates for several decades now.

16. Yeah, you know me.

17. I’ve carried 1911s, XD(m)s, and Sigs. I think I’ve resolved my next buy will be GLOCK. I have no misconceptions about perfection, I just want to try a lower bore axis….

18. Great choice, but it might’ve made more sense to go with the glock 20……Ontario is huge and full of all manner of large predators (black and polar bears, wolves, cougars)

19. Nice upgrade.

20. Sounds like cheap and/or low bidder won.

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