“A McLennan County investigator has obtained a search warrant to extract a bullet from the arm of a biker — killed last week in a wreck — who was wounded in the deadly May 17 Twin Peaks shootout but left Waco before he was identified or arrested,” the Waco Tribune-Herald reported Wednesday. He’s doing it because it may help identify the weapon used to create the wound, and wants to have the sample submitted to the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, which is conducting the forensic analysis of weapons, bullets, bullet fragments and casings recovered at the scene…” . . .
The curious thing about that is, even though the shootings happened on May 17, ATF still hasn’t released its findings, so they could not be included in the autopsy reports released last month on the nine bikers killed. And that’s after “ATF Senior Special Agent Nicole Strong said pieces of evidence from the Waco Twin Peaks cases … are being given top priority over other cases.”
Obviously, with an important investigation going on, inappropriately rushing things won’t serve the interests of justice, the case must not be tried in the media, and law enforcement agencies don’t comment on existing investigations anyway – unless doing so serves their interests. That said, many serious questions about who was responsible for all of the shootings remain unanswered, and suspicions are further fueled by the lack of an official statement.
There is something that can be done, and it has precedent.
Back before the media and the Congress wanted to have anything to do with Operation Fast and Furious “gunwalking,” my colleague Mike Vanderboegh and I wrote an open letter to Senate Judiciary Committee staff asking them to look into allegations and to offer protection to whistleblowers. We also did what we could to overcome the lack of pressure by those with the means to apply it, and chide the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform to investigate.
Similar citizen efforts could be productive in the Waco Twin Peaks case as well, not with the local investigation, but with the federal one. ATF’s involvement is well within the purview of Senate Judiciary Chairman Chuck Grassley and House Oversight Chairman Jason Chaffetz to inquire about. Plus, it’s not like ATF isn’t known for embedding assets into motorcycle clubs, and that potential should definitely be of interest to both committees.
That aside, just asking when the ballistics investigation is expected to be completed hardly seems unreasonable, and would further let bureau management know influential eyes are on them. If nothing else, it will let ATF know they are being watched, and the stonewalling and obfuscation their actions have led observers to expect will not go unnoticed.
As with Fast and Furious, it took citizens joining in to motivate the politicians to act. Grassley and Chaffetz have the standard contact forms, but for those who aren’t state/district constituents, a quicker way to communicate, that won’t be excluded based on residency, would be through social media.
“Ask ATF when Waco ballistics report will be released” messages can be sent to Grassley at his Twitter and Facebook accounts, and likewise, Chaffetz also has Twitter and Facebook pages. The more concerned citizens who do this, the greater the chances we’ll see some movement from the politicians.
Also see: Waco Biker Shooting Autopsy Released. Coverup Continues.
Final Destination. Dude survives the shootout just to die in an accident just months after.
My guess is the accident, was no accident.
Statistically consistent, more likely to die due to an automobile collision than by any gun.
Well, when you’re looking at just a single data point, anything is possible. That’s what’s implied by statisticians’ use of the term “degrees of freedom.” Very crudely, the more parameters you’re estimating, the further from reality your result could be. You’re always starting with one estimated parameter, so your degrees of freedom start out as n-1. That “-1” essentially means anything can happen one time, regardless of overall population patterns.
As to overall population patterns, statistical consistency depends on the reference that population. An outlaw biker, who had just been shot a few months ago, isn’t exactly a typical specimen. He belongs to a subgroup of the population and, compared that reference group, I wouldn’t rule out homicide.
What struck me as odd, though, was that he apparently still has a bullet in his arm from the Twin Peaks incident? I’d expect that to have long since become infected and killed him by now, left untreated.
Not necessarily. An old buddy of mine has several .22lr rounds in his body. He went to the doctor and everything, they told him it was safer to just leave them in than to undergo the surgeries it would’ve taken to get them all out, gave him a prescription for some antibiotics, some neosporin and bandages, and sent him home. I’m not sure he ever even got the scrip filled.
Maybe Hillary has an email or two about fast and furious that would help the investigation
What the BAFTE says and what the BAFTE does are completely seperate ideas in two different universes.
This is all being handled by government employees (as police are), therefore I have no reason to trust that the real truth will come out.
Why is the ATF even looking at the evidence–isn’t that under the purview of the FBI crime lab? Or instead, (put on your tin hats) the ATF had some kind of undercover investigation going on (as it did with the Hell’s Angels) and needed to cover its tracks because its agent was in the middle of the scrum?
It’s no tin foil hat scenario. This was a federal operation from the jump.
Want the full story head over to http://www.agingrebel.com/ search the tag Waco.
The ATF has always been on the up and up with us. I’m sure that we can trust them. Just ask Jay Dobyns.
Were some of the active shooters ATF agents?
I suspect that all the active shooters were ATF. And that’s why the ballistics test results are being “delayed”.
I saw a somewhat credible report that a gang leader rode in late, pushing another leader with his bike, an argument started, escalated, and one of them shot the other in the head.
Then all Hell broke loose.
I wouldn’t be surprised if all nine deaths were murders, one by handgun, the other eight by LEOs with .223. It would explain every unacceptable thing that cops, prosecutors, and judges have done since the shootings. (or maybe one of the deaths was of the first shooter, which would leave us with eight murders, and zero surviving non-LEO perps to arrest and prosecute)
I would be ecstatic just to hear how many shell casings, and of what caliber, were found in the parking lot. Would answer most everything, at least until someone claimed he saw police and ATF policing brass immediately after the shootings.
My understanding immediately after the fact was that ATF was present on scene at the time of the shooting. How about just having them testify about what happened, for a start?
I might remind everyone that Congress’ fast and furious investigation went nowhere, in the long run serving only to be a small thorn under Obama’s saddle…
No one went to jail for Ruby Ridge or Waco. Even after the Senate hearings no jail time for anyone involved. That is when people took justice into their own hands at Oklahoma City. I hope smarter heads are in charge of this investigation.
There is alot of pig hunting in Texas. Maybe it is time to add the two legged variety.
Nah, too much trouble. I can wait for them to show up here on a door-to-door search for guns.
ATF is as Guilty as the day is long in starting this madness!
A sure sign is there “Reporting” or lack there of. If one of there’s had caught Terminal lead the ballistics would have been done and released in less than 24hrs.
They fool know one but are counting on the Sheeple mentality of…”There Outlaw Bikers”.
This is ATF’s playbook..MO…The Clinonista’s way!!
“More than one staffer says that the campaign’s motto towards these laws is “Ask for forgiveness, not for permission.”
“the video shows them laughing at the law and repeatedly bragging about violating it ”
“advised the staffers to, “Do whatever you can. Whatever you can get away with, just do it, until you get kicked out like totally.”
-http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/09/10/okeefe-strikes-again-undercover-video-purports-to-show-hillary-campaign-violating-election-law/
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